Who say we abandon '92, come and talk here

[Sila]

nah dream, i make a special thread to chitchat here oso :D we have not forsaken our classmates at all!! :D

[KoChun]

You did, Sila!!! A little quiet here, not like the normal Class of 92. Got spider web, please help to clean. :p

[Sila]

*sila brings out her feather duster and starts dusting*

how? starting to look better now? :D

[KoChun]

A little bit better only. Need to sweep and mop the floor too. Carpet would be good. :)

[Sila]

waaaah i cannot do everything lah! sweep, mop, beat the carpet some more! i dust oreidi... ok how bout this i dust and sweep, you mop and beat the carpet? :)

[KoChun]

I supervisor, watch and make sure the job is done. Get higher salary too. :D

[Sila]

like that ah? eh, you think i'll actually fall for that??? :D

btw, what does your avatar character mean? been meaning to ask you that :)

[KoChun]

If you turn the word 180 degrees, it reads as CHUN in mandarin, meaning Spring.

When we turn it upside down, it means 'Spring has arrived'. Also look like 2 hands receiving something (health, wealth, joy, happiness, career, friends and etc)

[Sila]

aaaah very auspicious and meaningful! is the chun in kochun the same chun in spring?

[KoChun]

aaaah very auspicious and meaningful! is the chun in kochun the same chun in spring?
Nah, don't think so. :D

[Sila]

Nah, don't think so. :D
hehehe i had to ask.. :D

so how's work going today?

[janicejoy]

hi sila and ko chun. Only both of you in here? I disturb can ah?

[KoChun]

hi sila and ko chun. Only both of you in here? I disturb can ah?
Welcome welcome, the more the merrier. :)

[janicejoy]

Ko Chun your name sounds really familiar....

[Sila]

hi janice! welcome welcome! :D

kochun's nick is not his real name so don't be fooled by it! ;) be careful though - after he ask you to mop and sit down and "supervise"!! :D

[janicejoy]

hi janice! welcome welcome! :D

kochun's nick is not his real name so don't be fooled by it! ;) be careful though - after he ask you to mop and sit down and "supervise"!! :D

Wah - pls ah Ko Chun don't be like my mother ah...I will "rebel" against you one ah.

[KoChun]

hehehe i had to ask.. :D

so how's work going today?

So far, so good, Sila. A little bit busy just now.

[KoChun]

Ko Chun your name sounds really familiar....
Do you know anyone by this name? :p

[janicejoy]

Think so but can't be sure. You've always been in Malaysia or did you go overseas then come back?

[KoChun]

Wah - pls ah Ko Chun don't be like my mother ah...I will "rebel" against you one ah.
Tell your dad. He was my teacher (taught me Geography and PE). :p

[KoChun]

Think so but can't be sure. You've always been in Malaysia or did you go overseas then come back?
Overseas? I've been to oversea many many times. At least 20 times to Pangkor, 10 times to Sinjarpor, and others. :p

[janicejoy]

WHOA - at last - somebody who knows my dad. Eh how do you know that i'm his daughter?

[janicejoy]

Overseas? I've been to oversea many many times. At least 20 times to Pangkor, 10 times to Sinjarpor, and others. :p


Celaka - ....getting cheeky i see!

[Dino]

Tell your dad. He was my teacher (taught me Geography and PE). :p

Mr.Ho ah? The teacher turn lawyer???

[KoChun]

WHOA - at last - somebody who knows my dad. Eh how do you know that i'm his daughter?
Me the kay poh chee king of the forum mah. Of course me got to know lah.

I also know you play good tennis. Still playing nowadays?

[Sila]

So far, so good, Sila. A little bit busy just now.
my workday today was like yesterday, except with more swearing...yesterday i worked on all these documents proofreading, editing, whole day. then today this morning i discovered that my microsoft word apparently mogok yesterday. saved nothing. i had all the files listed but 0KB. call the helpdesk they couldn't help me, all files were Unrecoverable. ada ke, they ask me "are you sure you saved your work? did you say "Yes" to the Save prompt?" i wanted to KILL them!!!! of course i am not stupid enough to not save my work. it's saved - timestamp all correct but at 0KB. obviously there is something wrong with the damn application!! :mad: so today i had to redo all the work from yesterday, plus try to figure out what's wrong with my PC. tonight i just defragged this bugger... gah!

[KoChun]

Mr.Ho ah? The teacher turn lawyer???
You are absolutely right, Dino.

[janicejoy]

Can't say about the good tennis part but yeah I did play tennis back in ACS. Stopped playing since I was 18. PM me and tell me lah who you really are....curious!

[janicejoy]

Mr.Ho ah? The teacher turn lawyer???

Another person who remembers my dad. He'll be so pleased! He taught you as well, Dino?

[KoChun]

Can't say about the good tennis part but yeah I did play tennis back in ACS. Stopped playing since I was 18. PM me and tell me lah who you really are....curious!
Don't think you know me. You really want to know? Later no appetite, how? :D

[Sila]

janice - there are pics of kochun running around here. he looks the same, just a bit rounder that's all :D maybe you will recognize him.

[KoChun]

Another person who remembers my dad. He'll be so pleased! He taught you as well, Dino?
I think your dad taught most of us here in the forum.

[siewjang]

Janice Ho... emm... your name sounds very very familiar leh. I think i know you by your face. Can post up pic ah?

[janicejoy]

Dino & Ko Chun, tell lah - was my dad strict? My dad taught Form 1A1 Geographics and I was in 1A3. Come exams, my dad was the one setting the questions. Wah lau - so hard plus I hated Geography! No soalan bocor for me.....

[KoChun]

janice - there are pics of kochun running around here. he looks the same, just a bit rounder that's all :D maybe you will recognize him.
Round macam bola sepak.

[KoChun]

Dino & Ko Chun, tell lah - was my dad strict? My dad taught Form 1A1 Geographics and I was in 1A3. Come exams, my dad was the one setting the questions. Wah lau - so hard plus I hated Geography! No soalan bocor for me.....
Sure or not? :p

Your dad was not strict, a very lenient teacher.

[Dino]

Dino & Ko Chun, tell lah - was my dad strict? My dad taught Form 1A1 Geographics and I was in 1A3. Come exams, my dad was the one setting the questions. Wah lau - so hard plus I hated Geography! No soalan bocor for me.....

I always recall your dad as a teacher i don't want to mess with. I don't recall what class he taught me but i know i was afraid of him. Btw...does he still pratice law these days?

[Sila]

janice i can't remember now if your dad ever taught me... euj! euj! dream!! oiii!! you guys remember or not? maybe not lah... hmmm :confused: my memory is seriously going lah...

[Sila]

Janice Ho... emm... your name sounds very very familiar leh. I think i know you by your face. Can post up pic ah?
yes janice - come put your pic as your avatar! :D

[janicejoy]

I always recall your dad as a teacher i don't want to mess with. I don't recall what class he taught me but i know i was afraid of him. Btw...does he still pratice law these days?

My dad has his own firm in Damansara Perdana. Give him a call lah, say hello. Don't need to be scared scared. He won't beat you with his famous wooden ruler!

[Dino]

My dad has his own firm in Damansara Perdana. Give him a call lah, say hello. Don't need to be scared scared. He won't beat you with his famous wooden ruler!

Don't think your dad will remember me. Does his firm has a website? Just curious...maybe just go looksee looksee... :D

[KoChun]

janice i can't remember now if your dad ever taught me... euj! euj! dream!! oiii!! you guys remember or not? maybe not lah... hmmm :confused: my memory is seriously going lah...
Mr. Ho Chu Chuan (not too sure spelling correct or not). Sila, our Form 2 Geography teacher leh.

[KoChun]

Wow, Hoxes is in Damansara Perdana too. Alka, ausman, JC, fulat all stay there leh. Got so many Sitiawanese there liao.

[Sila]

Mr. Ho Chu Chuan (not too sure spelling correct or not). Sila, our Form 2 Geography teacher leh.
aiyooo really ah? who taught us Geography in form 1? my memory is just terrible. kochun, how you remember semua ni? oh maybe you can help then - who taught us Perdagangan? Mrs what? thin-thin, short hair, glasses. you remember her?

[janicejoy]

Don't think your dad will remember me. Does his firm has a website? Just curious...maybe just go looksee looksee... :D

Alamak - not so hi fi like professional services in the US or Australia, got website and etc.

[janicejoy]

Don't think you know me. You really want to know? Later no appetite, how? :D

Tell lah - dun be shy.

[KoChun]

aiyooo really ah? who taught us Geography in form 1? my memory is just terrible. kochun, how you remember semua ni? oh maybe you can help then - who taught us Perdagangan? Mrs what? thin-thin, short hair, glasses. you remember her?
Mrs Wong Tai Meng of Kg.Bintang. Who else you want to know, Sila?

Sila serupa kacang lupakan kulit. :(

[KoChun]

Tell lah - dun be shy.
Okok, me pm you in a short while.

[dreamwh]

My dad has his own firm in Damansara Perdana. Give him a call lah, say hello. Don't need to be scared scared. He won't beat you with his famous wooden ruler!

Hey Janice, ask your dad who's Lobsang Rampa... i still remember he saw me reading this book once in class and started to discuss it with me.

[janicejoy]

Hey Janice, ask your dad who's Lobsang Rampa... i still remember he saw me reading this book once in class and started to discuss it with me.

Kay kay - who else? Calling my dad this weekend.....writing down a list of names.

[janicejoy]

Ladees and Gentlemen, Presenting.......................

[janicejoy]

Alamak masalah technical...skejap skejap...soli

[janicejoy]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Dino]

Maybe you can tell your dad to join the forum and bring along his kaki's, Mr.Naidu,Mr.Patrick,Mr.Ling DS,Mr.Ho Chee Poh...then this forum will surely be on funny place to be!!! But i doubt it though!!

[Dino]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!

[janicejoy]

I sense some sarcasm in that clap ah

[Dino]

I sense some sarcasm in that clap ah

No leh.....sincere clap...somemore format properly for you!!!

[Dino]

Btw...which one is you in the pic?? :o

[KoChun]

I sense some sarcasm in that clap ah
No lah. But which one is you, Janice? The avatar a little small lah.

[janicejoy]

How to get the oldies in? Best I could get would be get their anak anak in which would be my friends / yearmates!

[Dino]

One of the girls in there look like my Ex...

[janicejoy]

I'm the one in green. The girl beside me is Jacinta, Julie Neoh's sister - bet you all know her. (Julie)

[janicejoy]

One of the girls in there look like my Ex...

aiks which one?@!

[dreamwh]

I'm the one in green. The girl beside me is Jacinta, Julie Neoh's sister - bet you all know her. (Julie)

what green? i only see white, black and red

[janicejoy]

klah - I'm the one in white.

[Dino]

aiks which one?@!

The green one looks like my ex. But that long time ago..Uni days....no more now....now going to grow up like an old fart!! :o

[KoChun]

Excuse me, am I colour blind or what. Where got green colour???

[KoChun]

Incredible Hulk, you mean?

[dreamwh]

klah - I'm the one in white.

Hey, what year were you ah?

[janicejoy]

5 more minutes guys - and i will be changing avatar - shy only put my face there!

[janicejoy]

95 but left acs in form 3.

[Yvonne Allan]

Alo....class of '92!!!! Damn quiet le.....everyone still on leave, ka?

[Yvonne Allan]

Guys....need your help. I am organizing a seminar - Sourcing Properties For REITS on Feb 24th @ Securities Commission, Mont' Kiara. Any lawyers, valuers, merchant bankers, developers....all are welcome. I can be reached at 03-20924418. pls spread the word around.

[clos]

im here :p

[Sila]

5 more minutes guys - and i will be changing avatar - shy only put my face there!
janice i missed it completely! i was having a bit of masalah technical with my PC again... :( show your face lah dun be shy - see my face terpampang some more grinning like a monkey... :D

[Sila]

Mrs Wong Tai Meng of Kg.Bintang. Who else you want to know, Sila?

Sila serupa kacang lupakan kulit. :(
mrs WONG!! of course!!! :D thanks kochun

no no bukan kacang lupakan kulit but kacang whose brain kena makan by kochun at CNY :D soli lah...i'm so sleepy now - so many nights in a row tak cukup tidur disebabkan this forum... forgive me?

[Sila]

Hey Janice, ask your dad who's Lobsang Rampa... i still remember he saw me reading this book once in class and started to discuss it with me.
ok now i remember!! your lobsang rampa and i think i even remember a bit of the discussion. didn't you tell me once you could see an aura around me, dream?? :D

janice, please send my regards also to your dad when you speak to him :)

[Sila]

Alo....class of '92!!!! Damn quiet le.....everyone still on leave, ka?
i was never on leave, yvonne.. :( was here the whole time and still here even :)

[dreamwh]

ok now i remember!! your lobsang rampa and i think i even remember a bit of the discussion. didn't you tell me once you could see an aura around me, dream?? :D

janice, please send my regards also to your dad when you speak to him :)

Lobsang Rampa was a bloody conman!!! He was no tibetan lama, he was this white fella from Plympton, Devon, England named Cyril Hoskins!

[Sila]

Lobsang Rampa was a bloody conman!!! He was no tibetan lama, he was this white fella from Plympton, Devon, England named Cyril Hoskins!
i think i was born cynical la dream. i never believed any of this crap - lobsang rampa, nostradamus semua. i would rather live my life freely, making my own choices and decisions instead of waiting for these people to tell me what the future holds...

[dreamwh]

The thing about Lobsang Rampa was he discussed buddhism in his books... bloody misleading.

From my second year in Uni onwards, i stopped reading religious crapology books. If you cannot explain to me something scientifically (nevermind the empirical proof, just a decent theory will do), then i consider it as crap. That's how i realised Geomancy, astrology, divining, etc are all crapology!

Sila, Have you read the Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan... on how our life is dominated by these pseudo-sciences?

[Dino]

The thing about Lobsang Rampa was he discussed buddhism in his books... bloody misleading.

From my second year in Uni onwards, i stopped reading religious crapology books. If you cannot explain to me something scientifically (nevermind the empirical proof, just a decent theory will do), then i consider it as crap. That's how i realised Geomancy, astrology, divining, etc are all crapology!

Sila, Have you read the Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan... on how our life is dominated by these pseudo-sciences?

Funny...i recommended that book in the forum to Ray.

[Sila]

Sila, Have you read the Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan... on how our life is dominated by these pseudo-sciences?
nope - not read it yet. is it fiction? is it good? i have actually never read any carl sagan (ashamed to say). should i put this on my list?

[Sila]

Funny...i recommended that book in the forum to Ray.
dino, dream was into these books back in form 1-form 2. ahead of his time being philosophical and metaphysical.

i thought it was all bull - it's funny how i was prepared to believe there could be Clark Kent and Superman and aliens from outer space, and magic, but i couldn't buy into this kind of spiritual/foretelling sort of thing. sampai sekarang i'm like that lah - reading this book By The River Piedra I Sat Down and Wept and it's OK and a should be a fast read but having so much trouble getting through it. the cynical side of me keeps saying "WHAT???" and "Who would do that??" and "No bloody way!!" :o it's like a treatise on love and spirituality and i can see what a beautiful concept it is but you know what, i live in the real world. at the end of the day, bills are due and love is wonderful but it is give and take and not just all happy miracles! so i am having lots of trouble getting through this should be quick book.. :(

[dreamwh]

nope - not read it yet. is it fiction? is it good? i have actually never read any carl sagan (ashamed to say). should i put this on my list?

He wrote only one fiction, Contact, with his wife Ann Druyan. (Made into a movie, with Jodie Foster in it. As always, The book is way better than the movie).

Carl Sagan was a real scientist, as in an academic. Checkout http://www.planetary.org/html/society/tributes/ for more info. . This guy was a real overachiever. Pity he already dead.

I have almost every single book he wrote... my favourites are Demon Haunted World, Broca's Brain, Contact, Cosmos... but i particularly like Dragons of Eden. Brilliant!

[Sila]

i saw Contact, the movie but never actually read the book. perhaps i should! :D thanks for the tip, dream.

what's Dragons of Eden about? sounds interesting.

[dreamwh]

I have been stuck at his Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors for some time now.... heavy read.

[Dino]

I have been stuck at his Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors for some time now.... heavy read.

A Devil's Chaplain - Richard Dawkins also not bad....

[dreamwh]

i saw Contact, the movie but never actually read the book. perhaps i should! :D thanks for the tip, dream.

what's Dragons of Eden about? sounds interesting.

Its his and his wife's theory on the evolution of human intelligence. You'll be interested to know why he called it dragons of eden though... something to do with serpents. But i think the snake and eden is a "lost-in-translation" issue from the bible, sagan was wrong there... probably.

[dreamwh]

I go to this MPH warehouse sale everytime they organise one.... I always notice the lump Sagan together with the Science Fiction books, really pisses me off! I told the supervisor once about this... but they keep doing the same thing.

[Sila]

A Devil's Chaplain - Richard Dawkins also not bad....
what's this about, dino?

dream, i may start with Contact and see about the other non-fiction stuff. you know me lah - so malas to read non fiction.. :o

[Dino]

what's this about, dino?

dream, i may start with Contact and see about the other non-fiction stuff. you know me lah - so malas to read non fiction.. :o

Its basically about Science vs. Faith(Religion).

[dreamwh]

A Devil's Chaplain - Richard Dawkins also not bad....

Will definately look for it... sounds interesting. Read some reviews online...

[Sila]

my god it is 12:38 AM and i am still up.. i was trying to be in bed by midnight tonight to make up for all the sleep i've missed these past few nights, forumming :D

[Dino]

my god it is 12:38 AM and i am still up.. i was trying to be in bed by midnight tonight to make up for all the sleep i've missed these past few nights, forumming :D

Go to bed. Monday Presidents day so can sleep in on sunday!! :D

[dreamwh]

what's this about, dino?

dream, i may start with Contact and see about the other non-fiction stuff. you know me lah - so malas to read non fiction.. :o

I switched to non-fiction during uni days... we had a really good library in UTM. I even read the Apollo 13 flight report (in a book form of course). Non-fiction is really enlightening when presented by the proper writer. I'm even reading histroy textbooks now from my father's collection... If you're into history, stay away from this guy call Felipe Fernandez-Armesto. I bought 3 of his books, history presented solely from a western viewpoint, judged by technological achievements and progress. He totally misses the point.

I liked HG Wells books on history better... and he was scientist!

[athena]

I switched to non-fiction during uni days... we had a really good library in UTM. I even read the Apollo 13 flight report (in a book form of course). Non-fiction is really enlightening when presented by the proper writer. I'm even reading histroy textbooks now from my father's collection... If you're into history, stay away from this guy call Felipe Fernandez-Armesto. I bought 3 of his books, history presented solely from a western viewpoint, judged by technological achievements and progress. He totally misses the point.

I liked HG Wells books on history better... and he was scientist!

tersasul from main topic first,
dream, you're a UTM grad?

[Sila]

Go to bed. Monday Presidents day so can sleep in on sunday!! :D
unfortunately my clients don't observe president's day so i have to work monday :(

[Dino]

unfortunately my clients don't observe president's day so i have to work monday :(

Thats why you got only 7 days PH. :(

[dreamwh]

tersasul from main topic first,
dream, you're a UTM grad?

Yes... mechanical faculty, graduated 1999. I suspect you are too... from the sounds of it, you might be electrical or computer science. right?

[Sila]

Thats why you got only 7 days PH. :(
yep.. bummmer.. what to do? just go to work lah... this year for the first time EVER my clients took Martin Luther King Day off - waaah felt like rich man got the day off!! :D

[Sila]

I switched to non-fiction during uni days... we had a really good library in UTM. I even read the Apollo 13 flight report (in a book form of course). Non-fiction is really enlightening when presented by the proper writer. I'm even reading histroy textbooks now from my father's collection... If you're into history, stay away from this guy call Felipe Fernandez-Armesto. I bought 3 of his books, history presented solely from a western viewpoint, judged by technological achievements and progress. He totally misses the point.

I liked HG Wells books on history better... and he was scientist!
maybe someday i will get into non-fiction. if so i will definitely keep all your recommendations in mind ;)

[athena]

Yes... mechanical faculty, graduated 1999. I suspect you are too... from the sounds of it, you might be electrical or computer science. right?
haha..yes i'm electronics..hehe..i entered 99 ...no chance to catch a glimpse of u!! haha...

[Sila]

haha..yes i'm electronics..hehe..i entered 99 ...no chance to catch a glimpse of u!! haha...
dun worry athena - go to the Dharoos pics and you can see dream there :D

[athena]

dun worry athena - go to the Dharoos pics and you can see dream there :D
must pinpoint out to me.....i'm bad at guessing who's who

[dreamwh]

haha..yes i'm electronics..hehe..i entered 99 ...no chance to catch a glimpse of u!! haha...

My sister was also from UTM, she was accounting, graduated 2001... i think. Really tall girl.

[athena]

My sister was also from UTM, she was accounting, graduated 2001... i think. Really tall girl.
post la pic... :D

[Sila]

My sister was also from UTM, she was accounting, graduated 2001... i think. Really tall girl.
eh dream, when are you getting your siblings in here? i only got 1 brother got no more siblings to ajak to come in here. oso, my brother was the one who pester me to join :D

[dreamwh]

what pic?

[athena]

what pic?
pic of u and ur sister...hope to put a face to the nick!!!:D

[dreamwh]

pic of u and ur sister...hope to put a face to the nick!!!:D

see if i can find one... i stopped taking photos of myself after my uni days. Because i lost my shoulder length hair...

[Sila]

see if i can find one... i stopped taking photos of myself after my uni days. Because i lost my shoulder length hair...
you had shoulder length hair?? i can't even imagine it, dream.. :eek:

[athena]

see if i can find one... i stopped taking photos of myself after my uni days. Because i lost my shoulder length hair...
okok...i'll wait...quick go and find find...:D

[dreamwh]

you had shoulder length hair?? i can't even imagine it, dream.. :eek:

hahaha... saya tipulah. Bapak tak kasi simpan rambut panjang.

But i have a wig though (waist length)... i used for a rap performance once... my one chance in life to be a rockstar.

[Sila]

hahaha... saya tipulah. Bapak tak kasi simpan rambut panjang.

But i have a wig though (waist length)... i used for a rap performance once... my one chance in life to be a rockstar.
damn! you should post a pic of you in the wig :D :D

last year i had waist length hair - but i got it cut last june. now just about 3 inches below my shoulder. in june i got at least 18-20 inches of hair cut off. too long lah - banyak hal to take care of...

[song cm]

damn! you should post a pic of you in the wig :D :D

last year i had waist length hair - but i got it cut last june. now just about 3 inches below my shoulder. in june i got at least 18-20 inches of hair cut off. too long lah - banyak hal to take care of...
waist long hair....wau....how long did it take u to grow them?

[siewjang]

hahaha... saya tipulah. Bapak tak kasi simpan rambut panjang...
I knew it. How can anak Mr Naidu keep long hair yet we cannot. Bapak need to jaga image anak juga. Dream, how strick is your dad with you and your other spouses?

[athena]

dream, your sis is from class of 96, called nivashini?<i think the spelling is wrong>

[Sila]

waist long hair....wau....how long did it take u to grow them?
it took about 4 years song, but i got it cut every year, about 6-8inches. i have fast growing hair - in july of 1998 i got a buzz cut, and i kept it short for about 1 year but every 4 weeks must get haircut. so lazy lah. plus, haircut for girls and haircut for boys got price disparity. got expensive also. so i let it grow back lah.

[dreamwh]

I knew it. How can anak Mr Naidu keep long hair yet we cannot. Bapak need to jaga image anak juga. Dream, how strick is your dad with you and your other spouses?

Stricter than school... gilababi garang. But my sister always got special treatment. Now with grand-daughter (my sis's daughter) even more lemah-lembut... gilababi unfair.

[dreamwh]

dream, your sis is from class of 96, called nivashini?<i think the spelling is wrong>

Its actually Nivashni... you know?

[athena]

Its actually Nivashni... you know?
i know who your sister is...hehe...my bro's classmate...always see her in UTM... :D

[siewjang]

Stricter than school... gilababi garang. But my sister always got special treatment. Now with grand-daughter (my sis's daughter) even more lemah-lembut... gilababi unfair.
Yikes... the phobia is back whenever you mentioned gilababi.

[Sila]

Stricter than school... gilababi garang. But my sister always got special treatment. Now with grand-daughter (my sis's daughter) even more lemah-lembut... gilababi unfair.
alah, with grandkid mestilah lemah lembut. grandfather/grandmother sudah tentu kalau dengan grandkid. just ask my mum!! :D :D

i was always nervous if your dad walked by and stopped to chat with my parents, dream. worried lah..guilty conscious kot.. :)

[dreamwh]

alah, with grandkid mestilah lemah lembut. grandfather/grandmother sudah tentu kalau dengan grandkid. just ask my mum!! :D :D

i was always nervous if your dad walked by and stopped to chat with my parents, dream. worried lah..guilty conscious kot.. :)


Your mom complain to my dad once that our batch something wrong... don't want to get married. besar-besar menyusahkan mak-bapak....

[Sila]

Your mom complain to my dad once that our batch something wrong... don't want to get married. besar-besar menyusahkan mak-bapak....
hahahaha it's quite true what. we've mostly resisted the whole "get married" thing...my mother already calling me old lah.. :o

[Sila]

must pinpoint out to me.....i'm bad at guessing who's who
ath, go here: http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512

see post #2, bottom left picture. dream is in the back row, standing, middle of the 3 standing ppl :D

[janicejoy]

janice i missed it completely! i was having a bit of masalah technical with my PC again... :( show your face lah dun be shy - see my face terpampang some more grinning like a monkey... :D

HI Sila, can see now ah? I've just changed my avatar.

[Sila]

HI Sila, can see now ah? I've just changed my avatar.
waaah janice, very nice very nice. you keep this avatar up lah - for 2 weeks? can? i still recognize you from lastime, but certainly all grown up and pretty lah.. :D

[janicejoy]

waaah janice, very nice very nice. you keep this avatar up lah - for 2 weeks? can? i still recognize you from lastime, but certainly all grown up and pretty lah.. :D

why 2 weeks? 10 minutes lah

[Sila]

why 2 weeks? 10 minutes lah
leave it a bit longer lah - a few days at least. it's so funny lah i still remember you and adila running around together while we wait for our parents to finish teaching so we can go home... :D this way i can get it in my head you are not a little girl anymore :D

[song cm]

it took about 4 years song, but i got it cut every year, about 6-8inches. i have fast growing hair - in july of 1998 i got a buzz cut, and i kept it short for about 1 year but every 4 weeks must get haircut. so lazy lah. plus, haircut for girls and haircut for boys got price disparity. got expensive also. so i let it grow back lah.

wau...u must be pretty sad when u hv to cut those long wavy hair off.....

[janicejoy]

You very smart ah. Few days then I will forget to take it down. Hee hee. Nope no more little girl. I spoke to Adila when I was back. Supposed to meet up but time wasn't on my side.

[Sila]

You very smart ah. Few days then I will forget to take it down. Hee hee. Nope no more little girl. I spoke to Adila when I was back. Supposed to meet up but time wasn't on my side.
who me?? *blinks innocently* :D i saw adila and her family raya of 2003 when i was home. wow - you know her sister lina is expecting baby #4? i visited their house in taman pegawai (2 houses down from my parents) for raya, and adila was there, her sister + hub + 2 kids + kid #3 then on the way, her parents, all were there.

[janicejoy]

How does Adila look like now? Still thin as ever I heard? And wow, Lina - mother of 4!!!! Pengsan!

[Sila]

wau...u must be pretty sad when u hv to cut those long wavy hair off.....
well, i donated my hair from my last haircut to an organization which makes wigs for kids with cancer. so i wasn't sad about that - i was glad that something i had no use for could make some little kid happy.

but as to the "wavy" part, song dear, that is unfortunately all your fantasy. my hair is straighter than the metal rods used to make jalan keretapi. curlers, curling iron, semua tak makan one... my brother has the wavy hair in the family :o

[Sila]

How does Adila look like now? Still thin as ever I heard? And wow, Lina - mother of 4!!!! Pengsan!
adila is still as thin as ever!! her mum also very thin what - all genetics. i wish i had that problem ;) but lina, i oso pengsan when my mum told me she was expecting again!! wahlaoooo she's having kids for all of us :D!!!

[janicejoy]

klah Permaisuri Sila, Tuan-Tuan dan Puan-Puan, hamba nak balik kampung (alamak I forgot all my Bahasa istana). C u all tomorrow. Sila - i listen to you. I'll leave my avatar up here for 2 weeks. If anyone kutuk me you kena ok!

[janicejoy]

adila is still as thin as ever!! her mum also very thin what - all genetics. i wish i had that problem ;) but lina, i oso pengsan when my mum told me she was expecting again!! wahlaoooo she's having kids for all of us :D!!!

You can say that again. Lina, after having had her 4th kid still kurus?

[dreamwh]

I'm sick of my stupid job!

I want to start a thread discussing rock music... how many interested?

[song cm]

klah Permaisuri Sila, Tuan-Tuan dan Puan-Puan, hamba nak balik kampung (alamak I forgot all my Bahasa istana). C u all tomorrow. Sila - i listen to you. I'll leave my avatar up here for 2 weeks. If anyone kutuk me you kena ok!
so, if anyone puji u, then how? :D

[Sila]

and i better cabut and finally go tidur!! :D that's good janice, i tabik you for leaving your pic on for 2 weeks. selamat malam wahai janice, syahdan kita berjumpa lagi esok hari.. (ok la don't make fun of me i donno anything about bahasa klasik) :D

[janicejoy]

so, if anyone puji u, then how? :D

Then ah...hee hee .....give chance - one more extra day. :D

[janicejoy]

nite sila and everyone on this thread.

[song cm]

well, i donated my hair from my last haircut to an organization which makes wigs for kids with cancer. so i wasn't sad about that - i was glad that something i had no use for could make some little kid happy.

but as to the "wavy" part, song dear, that is unfortunately all your fantasy. my hair is straighter than the metal rods used to make jalan keretapi. curlers, curling iron, semua tak makan one... my brother has the wavy hair in the family :o

good for you...that is really noble, Sila.
Not often to have a malay girl with straight hair....anyway i love long straight hair as well... :D

[Sila]

You can say that again. Lina, after having had her 4th kid still kurus?
dunno the lastime i saw her she was about 2 weeks away from giving birth to kid #3 so can't say how kurus she is :D i'm sure she's still kurus - but i have to see her without her being pregnant lah..

[song cm]

Then ah...hee hee .....give chance - one more extra day. :D
hey Janice...nice smile....

so, 15 days, rite?

[Sila]

Then ah...hee hee .....give chance - one more extra day. :D
waaah janice, i LOVE your pic!! (now 2 weeks + 1 day, right?) :p

but seriously, i do love your avatar. :D

[song cm]

waaah janice, i LOVE your pic!! (now 2 weeks + 1 day, right?) :p

but seriously, i do love your avatar. :D
no, now it is 17 days (me, you n athena)

[siewjang]

If Janice post up full pic, I can make out that she's wearing a bikini. no? :D

[siewjang]

no, now it is 17 days (me, you n athena)
One from me and another from inside me. that will be 2 :D

[Sila]

good for you...that is really noble, Sila.
Not often to have a malay girl with straight hair....anyway i love long straight hair as well... :D
hehehe i kept waiting and waiting for my hair to turn wavy (my mum's hair and my brother's hair started out straight and then turned wavy as they got older). but unfortunately my hair never acquired a wave. when i had the buzz cut it looked so terrible - like durian head only all standing up :D

but tengok tu? you nak cupcake, i kata i ding dong, you kata boleh juga! you nak wavy hair, i bagi straight hair, you kata boleh juga!! semuaaa boleh :D

[athena]

hehehe i kept waiting and waiting for my hair to turn wavy (my mum's hair and my brother's hair started out straight and then turned wavy as they got older). but unfortunately my hair never acquired a wave. when i had the buzz cut it looked so terrible - like durian head only all standing up :D

but tengok tu? you nak cupcake, i kata i ding dong, you kata boleh juga! you nak wavy hair, i bagi straight hair, you kata boleh juga!! semuaaa boleh :D
sila, i understand ur frustration..hehe...i went to perm once..the very fashionable 'spa-perm' ....dem...my hair also came out straight :(

[Sila]

One from me and another from inside me. that will be 2 :D
that makes 19 days!! :D

[dreamwh]

that's why i use a wig... the big hair, 80s metal kind of thing. Scared my niece to tears once

[Sila]

sila, i understand ur frustration..hehe...i went to perm once..the very fashionable 'spa-perm' ....dem...my hair also came out straight :(
ya lah - what to do - cannot lawan genetics. :D never mind, we can be gang together as the straight hair gang :D

[Sila]

that's why i use a wig... the big hair, 80s metal kind of thing. Scared my niece to tears once
LOL!!!!

i DARE you to wear the wig to my wedding! i DARE yoU!!!! :D :D

[athena]

ya lah - what to do - cannot lawan genetics. :D never mind, we can be gang together as the straight hair gang :D
;) yea girl

[song cm]

hehehe i kept waiting and waiting for my hair to turn wavy (my mum's hair and my brother's hair started out straight and then turned wavy as they got older). but unfortunately my hair never acquired a wave. when i had the buzz cut it looked so terrible - like durian head only all standing up :D

but tengok tu? you nak cupcake, i kata i ding dong, you kata boleh juga! you nak wavy hair, i bagi straight hair, you kata boleh juga!! semuaaa boleh :D
aiyah...jangan cakap macam itu...Sila mah....apa apa pun boleh.... :D

[athena]

LOL!!!!

i DARE you to wear the wig to my wedding! i DARE yoU!!!! :D :D
like that...sila...must capture on Video!!! sure it'll be great shoot!

[song cm]

ya lah - what to do - cannot lawan genetics. :D never mind, we can be gang together as the straight hair gang :D
erh...straight hair man can join or not?? :)

[Sila]

erh...straight hair man can join or not?? :)
you know the secret handshake or not?? :D

[song cm]

you know the secret handshake or not?? :D
oops...no...can teach ah?

[Sila]

alamak! it's 2:18 AM!!! aaaaaarghhhhhh

ok ok 4 hours sleep oso can lah! but if i don't go now nanti my sleep time keep menurun :D good night semua!! keep on posting so when i wake up i have a lot of fun reading to do :D :D

[Sila]

oops...no...can teach ah?
you must ask athena to teach you lah - since it is bed time for silly sila :D

[song cm]

you must ask athena to teach you lah - since it is bed time for silly sila :D
okok...
good nite sila...sweet dreams

[dreamwh]

like that...sila...must capture on Video!!! sure it'll be great shoot!

I ask a question to all... has anyone seen slash's face? his face perpetually covered by hair. So i do the same thing la. and wear a big top hat

[janicejoy]

If Janice post up full pic, I can make out that she's wearing a bikini. no? :D

Yeah, how did you guess that? Siew Jang's a smart girl! That's why cannot post full picture... ;)

[janicejoy]

This cartoon was drawn to resemble me. Caleb drew this. ;)

[janicejoy]

I ask a question to all... has anyone seen slash's face? his face perpetually covered by hair. So i do the same thing la. and wear a big top hat

Come to think of it, nope have never seen his hair.

[dreamwh]

Come to think of it, nope have never seen his hair.

I think you meant you've never seen his face... people only recognise slash through his long hair and hat and cigarette in the mouth.

[janicejoy]

I think you meant you've never seen his face... people only recognise slash through his long hair and hat and cigarette in the mouth.

Haha - yeah i've never seen his FACE! Gosh - try typing in a forum when your bosses are lurking around the office!

[dreamwh]

Haha - yeah i've never seen his FACE! Gosh - try typing in a forum when your bosses are lurking around the office!

you working ah? i thought you student.... my boss not around. but i got a 12pm deadline to meet for a project. D-A-I!

[euj]

janice i can't remember now if your dad ever taught me... euj! euj! dream!! oiii!! you guys remember or not? maybe not lah... hmmm :confused: my memory is seriously going lah...
i left after form 3, but happy to help out...who are you talking about? what's janice's dad's name?

[euj]

Its basically about Science vs. Faith(Religion).
i don't think it's really an issue of science v religion. it's more an issue of people who are anti-religion v those who are pro-religion...

[janicejoy]

you working ah? i thought you student.... my boss not around. but i got a 12pm deadline to meet for a project. D-A-I!

I wish i'm still studying! Every morning, haven't even warm my chair up - waiting for 5 pm so I can go home!

[janicejoy]

i left after form 3, but happy to help out...who are you talking about? what's janice's dad's name?

Alamak - don't worry about it Euj. My dad not to say PM or VVIP! But he'll be pleased to know that at least SOME of his ex students (ahem Sila!!!!) still remember him.

[siewjang]

Yeah, how did you guess that? Siew Jang's a smart girl! That's why cannot post full picture... ;)
Janice, sure very laku if you put that pic up in MEB. You know ler can fish a lot of buaya in the forum :D

[janicejoy]

Siew Jang, I'm not here to fish for buaya....just here to keep in touch with old friends and make new ones only...(ahem, yeah like real!)

[LiLiaN]

fulamak, new thread nearly 200 posts in one day... you guys at 92 very geng!!!
if only my yearmates also this supportive... *sigh*

[KoChun]

fulamak, new thread nearly 200 posts in one day... you guys at 92 very geng!!!
if only my yearmates also this supportive... *sigh*
In other words, very kay poh chee. :D

[Sila]

In other words, very kay poh chee. :D
:D speaking for yourself, kochun?? hahahaha ;)

[Sila]

fulamak, new thread nearly 200 posts in one day... you guys at 92 very geng!!!
if only my yearmates also this supportive... *sigh*
lilian - ok i come to your class and kay poh chee there oso, k? :)

[Sila]

Alamak - don't worry about it Euj. My dad not to say PM or VVIP! But he'll be pleased to know that at least SOME of his ex students (ahem Sila!!!!) still remember him.
adoiiii kena one time!! :D

the strange thing is janice, i remember your father very clearly and even the car he drove that time. but for some reason my memory in the classroom has almost been wiped clean. i couldn't even remember the name of mrs wong (thanks kochun!) and she taught me perdagangan for now that i think about it, probably from form 1 to form 3!!! alamak...not the teacher's fault. i think it is all my faulty brain lah...i can remember mr. patrick really well, but he makes a big impression if the first time you do something wrong you have to hold hands with your classmates and walk up and down the field smiling BIG! :D in fact, i think with only a few exceptions, i have forgotten just about all my profs from college (haahahahaha) and i actually remember the teachers from ACS better than the ones who taught me later...

[LiLiaN]

lilian - ok i come to your class and kay poh chee there oso, k? :)
pun boleh - a thousand welcome there... :D

[janicejoy]

adoiiii kena one time!! :D

the strange thing is janice, i remember your father very clearly and even the car he drove that time. but for some reason my memory in the classroom has almost been wiped clean. i couldn't even remember the name of mrs wong (thanks kochun!) and she taught me perdagangan for now that i think about it, probably from form 1 to form 3!!! alamak...not the teacher's fault. i think it is all my faulty brain lah...i can remember mr. patrick really well, but he makes a big impression if the first time you do something wrong you have to hold hands with your classmates and walk up and down the field smiling BIG! :D in fact, i think with only a few exceptions, i have forgotten just about all my profs from college (haahahahaha) and i actually remember the teachers from ACS better than the ones who taught me later...

Don't worry about it, Sila. No need to give such a long explanation lah! Told my dad you said hi and he remembers you! Yeah - my dad used to drive this really old (back then, considered alright lah), Toyota Corolla. Air-cond pun tarak!

[dreamwh]

i loved my dad's Ford Escort.... i was starsky, my bro was hutch... but we were only allowed to sit at the back.

[Sila]

dream - starsky and hutch mana ada duduk in the back one?? LOL

janice - that's nice of your dad :) i hope he and the rest of your family are well. are you the only one abroad at this point in time?

[janicejoy]

Sila, apa khabar mate!......Still don't want to tidur ah!
We are all well, thanks!. Yup, I'm the only one abroad. Sister graduated from Sheffield last September and is not back home doing her CLP. Another lawyer buruk in the making, if you ask me. (i'm mean, aren't I?!).

[Sila]

khabar baik janice! you apa khabar?

eh, now only 7:15 PM waaay before time for bed now :D just got back to my hotel and got my chinese food delivered (it snowed out and so malas to get my dinner before coming in). shrimp lo mein (basically mi goreng with shrimp) with extra hot sauce mmmmm

your dad must be happy - then your sis can loyar buruk in his company :D (no lah calling a sib loyar buruk is not mean at all! it's expected, really!)

[Dino]

Hey Sila...how come you keep staying in hotel ah?? Company pay isit??

[janicejoy]

I'm doing good, thanks Sila. Wah your dinner sounds and (in my mind smells) good! Hungry, hungry. I'm forever hungry. I'm sure you're savouring every single bite hah! Drinking coke with your dinner ar!? My sis won't be loyaring buruk in my dad's firm for awhile yet. Dad wants her to work for someone else first, gain some experience then only can work for him.

For my lunch today, am going to have Minestrone soup with Ribena. Lately, have been drinking a lot of Ribena. Don't know why. Must beli barang buatan Malaysia, mah.

[janicejoy]

Sila, forgot to tell you. Caught the first episode of Joey on tv. Pretty funny. One probably would need to watch Friends to be able to understand some of the jokes there.

[Dino]

Sila, forgot to tell you. Caught the first episode of Joey on tv. Pretty funny. One probably would need to watch Friends to be able to understand some of the jokes there.

The one where he landed on the wrong airport?

[janicejoy]

Yeah ...you like watching Joey?

[Dino]

Yeah ...you like watching Joey?

Not really...watch the first episode...it has its moments but i did not find it that funny.... :o

[Sila]

i actually like joey - it's another ensemble cast thing and i like the new characters they added :D i especially like his nephew..

[janicejoy]

nephew's a cutey, heh.

[Sila]

Hey Sila...how come you keep staying in hotel ah?? Company pay isit??
yah - they require me to travel to the client site so they pick up all my travel tab lah. i can get an apartment here and get them to pay for it but that would be too lonely lah. this way i have ppl downstairs who are nice to me, and i get Hilton points (the fast way to a free vacation my friend, is to collect airline points and hotel points). when i go on vacation all my airfare is free and all my hotel stays are free oso. very nice. went to hawaii twice like that, jamaica, and also key west (i think i paid for the ticket to key west since it was under USD200). but to go to malaysia on free ticket is very hard - must book over 1 year in advance. so i just pay the money to go home and keep collecting airline points for those trips oso lah! :D

[Dino]

yah - they require me to travel to the client site so they pick up all my travel tab lah. i can get an apartment here and get them to pay for it but that would be too lonely lah. this way i have ppl downstairs who are nice to me, and i get Hilton points (the fast way to a free vacation my friend, is to collect airline points and hotel points). when i go on vacation all my airfare is free and all my hotel stays are free oso. very nice. went to hawaii twice like that, jamaica, and also key west (i think i paid for the ticket to key west since it was under USD200). but to go to malaysia on free ticket is very hard - must book over 1 year in advance. so i just pay the money to go home and keep collecting airline points for those trips oso lah! :D

Nice!! Its great at first but i think i will miss my own place if that is daily part of life.

[Sila]

I'm doing good, thanks Sila. Wah your dinner sounds and (in my mind smells) good! Hungry, hungry. I'm forever hungry. I'm sure you're savouring every single bite hah! Drinking coke with your dinner ar!? My sis won't be loyaring buruk in my dad's firm for awhile yet. Dad wants her to work for someone else first, gain some experience then only can work for him.

For my lunch today, am going to have Minestrone soup with Ribena. Lately, have been drinking a lot of Ribena. Don't know why. Must beli barang buatan Malaysia, mah.
i just saw ribena at the grocery store last week and thought, eh, i should get that lah! :D it's amazing - they are upgrading the regular grocery stores in ohio - last time lucky to get Ramen instant noodles, now can get different kinds of rice, noodles, even lemon grass and Ribena! amazing lah!!

heehee your dad is smart - that way your sis can get experience and learn how things are in the world independently - then can use all the experience at your dad's company! :D my relatives all thought i should have become a lawyer because i am so loyar buruk!! :D

and of course, coke with dinner. :D

[Sila]

Nice!! Its great at first but i think i will miss my own place if that is daily part of life.
that is the hardest part lah dino. after i get married maybe end of this year or something i am thinking of hanging up my traveling shoes. be a real married woman. go home at night like a normal person. but of course, the money aspect is very nice. not that they pay me a whole lot, but certainly for now more than what i could make at a "regular" job.

[Dino]

that is the hardest part lah dino. after i get married maybe end of this year or something i am thinking of hanging up my traveling shoes. be a real married woman. go home at night like a normal person. but of course, the money aspect is very nice. not that they pay me a whole lot, but certainly for now more than what i could make at a "regular" job.

Yeah....been there done that. Company use to send me for trainning when i first started....it was fun at first....then after 3-4 times...you just dread going to the airport and standing in line and going to another office and saying Hi!! How are you? and talking the same crap with every single person you meet. Sheesh....

[Sila]

Yeah....been there done that. Company use to send me for trainning when i first started....it was fun at first....then after 3-4 times...you just dread going to the airport and standing in line and going to another office and saying Hi!! How are you? and talking the same crap with every single person you meet. Sheesh....
well when i started doing this kind of thing, supposed to do only for 1 year, to get some experience. that was in june of 98 lah.. :D

[Dino]

well when i started doing this kind of thing, supposed to do only for 1 year, to get some experience. that was in june of 98 lah.. :D

Waaa.....i didn't know that its 1 rubber stretch year.....hehehehe.... :D

[Sila]

Waaa.....i didn't know that its 1 rubber stretch year.....hehehehe.... :D
magic year, apparently! :D now i'm one of the senior folks doing this at my company. :D but then many of us cabuted when our company got bought... but that is awhole other story.

[Dino]

magic year, apparently! :D now i'm one of the senior folks doing this at my company. :D but then many of us cabuted when our company got bought... but that is awhole other story.

Speaking of company got bought....i have 3 W2 tax forms this year....we change company name 3x this year...go figure that one out.... :rolleyes:

[Sila]

Speaking of company got bought....i have 3 W2 tax forms this year....we change company name 3x this year...go figure that one out.... :rolleyes:
man, that sucks!! buat susah only... aiyah oredi getting to end of february? every year i think "i will do my taxes ahead of time" but seems like come april 15 i'm only then doing my taxes online. in fact, last year vin did my taxes for me otherwise not in time one.. :D

[Dino]

man, that sucks!! buat susah only... aiyah oredi getting to end of february? every year i think "i will do my taxes ahead of time" but seems like come april 15 i'm only then doing my taxes online. in fact, last year vin did my taxes for me otherwise not in time one.. :D

TaxCut baby!!! Got my refund already liao!!! :D

[Sila]

TaxCut baby!!! Got my refund already liao!!! :D
waaah you are doing what i intend to do but have never yet managed to do! :D i think this year i'm going to H&R to do the taxes - dunno how to deal with the house lah. at least let them do it once, then next year i know how to do lah...

[Dino]

waaah you are doing what i intend to do but have never yet managed to do! :D i think this year i'm going to H&R to do the taxes - dunno how to deal with the house lah. at least let them do it once, then next year i know how to do lah...

How many W2's you have and is that the only forms you have?

[Sila]

How many W2's you have and is that the only forms you have?
this year, luckily only 1 W2, but i got all these statements from the bank regarding the house, mortgage payments and whatnot lah. never had to deal with this before. plus bought the house jointly with vin - so not sure how to divide up. suddenly got so complicated - otherwise maybe i ask vin to do it for me again! :D :D

[Dino]

this year, luckily only 1 W2, but i got all these statements from the bank regarding the house, mortgage payments and whatnot lah. never had to deal with this before. plus bought the house jointly with vin - so not sure how to divide up. suddenly got so complicated - otherwise maybe i ask vin to do it for me again! :D :D

Hhahahaha....like that sorry ah....my one simple aje.....yours err...hmmmm....H&R block easiest way to go.

[Sila]

Hhahahaha....like that sorry ah....my one simple aje.....yours err...hmmmm....H&R block easiest way to go.
that's what i'm thinking too.. :D :D

[dreamwh]

I'm doing good, thanks Sila. Wah your dinner sounds and (in my mind smells) good! Hungry, hungry. I'm forever hungry. I'm sure you're savouring every single bite hah! Drinking coke with your dinner ar!? My sis won't be loyaring buruk in my dad's firm for awhile yet. Dad wants her to work for someone else first, gain some experience then only can work for him.

For my lunch today, am going to have Minestrone soup with Ribena. Lately, have been drinking a lot of Ribena. Don't know why. Must beli barang buatan Malaysia, mah.

i think ribena is a UK brand

[Sila]

i think ribena is a UK brand
issit? it was such a treat when i was small. my mum was quite strict - we only drank "air mati" and anything sweet like ribena or orange or whatever, was a treat and quite rare to get...

[janicejoy]

But the Ribena I bought was manufactured in Malaysia! My parents also, never allowed us sisters to drink anything other then water. Eating out, no drinking. Want to drink, go home and drink! As a result, till today, when I go out I don't drink anything other then the chilled tap water they (restauranteurs) offer. Habit liau.

[Sila]

i splurge and get a coke with no ice! :D

[janicejoy]

chilled coke, i hope.

[Sila]

chilled, but not iced. waters down the coke otherwise :D

[janicejoy]

sila - don't me asking. I'm a bit confused as to what you do for a living. You an editor or something like that? Cause you're always talking about proofreading and etc

[Sila]

sometimes my parents would let my brother and i share a drink if we go out to eat. but that usually meant my bro would get more than me! :D but when we got older, like now, we are allowed to order drinks. i sure love air limau nipis if done well...

[Sila]

sila - don't me asking. I'm a bit confused as to what you are doing for a living. You an editor or something like that? Cause you're always talking about proofreading and etc
no no not editor.. my main job is as a process modeler. but for my client now, i am writing user manuals with regards to the modeling tool we use, and helping to establish the standards that they will use as well as the templates in the tool. so have to edit/proofread the documents and make sure it's right, that the tool can do this, and that the templates match the user documentation. i have to finish this quick lah i hate it. aim to finish by end of tomorrow. then i can go back to my process modeling! :D

[janicejoy]

process modeling? u're an engineer then? I hate writing user manuals as well.

[Dino]

no no not editor.. my main job is as a process modeler. but for my client now, i am writing user manuals with regards to the modeling tool we use, and helping to establish the standards that they will use as well as the templates in the tool. so have to edit/proofread the documents and make sure it's right, that the tool can do this, and that the templates match the user documentation. i have to finish this quick lah i hate it. aim to finish by end of tomorrow. then i can go back to my process modeling! :D

Can i blame for those lame manuals that come with the things i buy at bestbuy???

[janicejoy]

sometimes my parents would let my brother and i share a drink if we go out to eat. but that usually meant my bro would get more than me! :D but when we got older, like now, we are allowed to order drinks. i sure love air limau nipis if done well...

Haha now i can order 3 cokes and 2 limau ais for all my parents care. And they even want to pay for my drinks as well. :D

[Sila]

Can i blame for those lame manuals that come with the things i buy at bestbuy???
i promise if i wrote those user manuals they would be much more useful! ;) unfortunately with those bestbuy crap, i am in the same boat as you (that is, either on hold for hours to get their helpdesk, or taking the screwdriver and taking apart the damn thing to see if can fix it myself)

[Sila]

process modeling? u're an engineer then? I hate writing user manuals as well.
well i'm definitely not an engineer. i deal with the process side of things. i ask the very "simple" questions: that is, Why do you do this? What is the goal? (i.e., the goal is not to "enter data", but to "process order"). i create process models that directly helps the business to achieve their goals - how do you do something in order to achieve your desired business goal? is it the most efficient way? can we reengineer your processes to increase your productivity or lower cost, or both, or solve a bottleneck in your process? what are the pieces of data that get manipulated? then you can evaluate your application portfolio and consolidate/etc. that's kind of what i do. if your company does not have clearly outlined processes, then there can be much opportunities for improvement.

[Sila]

Haha now i can order 3 cokes and 2 limau ais for all my parents care. And they even want to pay for my drinks as well. :D
maybe they will pay for my drinks oso?? :D :D

[Dino]

well i'm definitely not an engineer. i deal with the process side of things. i ask the very "simple" questions: that is, Why do you do this? What is the goal? (i.e., the goal is not to "enter data", but to "process order"). i create process models that directly helps the business to achieve their goals - how do you do something in order to achieve your desired business goal? is it the most efficient way? can we reengineer your processes to increase your productivity or lower cost, or both, or solve a bottleneck in your process? what are the pieces of data that get manipulated? then you can evaluate your application portfolio and consolidate/etc. that's kind of what i do. if your company does not have clearly outlined processes, then there can be much opportunities for improvement.

Like System Analyst :D

[janicejoy]

ooh u're in process reengineering. I want to go into that as well. Finding means and ways to. Your job sounds really interesting, girl.

[janicejoy]

maybe they will pay for my drinks oso?? :D :D

No problem. Even I can pay for your drinks. Order away!

[Sila]

Like System Analyst :D
actually we are linking Processes to the Data models you system analysts do - that way you really know you are building something that the users will use and need to use, and that the business goal is met. a lot of the time, the business users donno how to tell IT what they need, and tell IT the wrong thing, then IT comes up with stuff according to the written requirements and it doesn't fulfill what the business users want! but not IT's fault - they are following specs. so what i do helps to join up the 2 sides :D

[Sila]

ooh u're in process reengineering. I want to go into that as well. Finding means and ways to. Your job sounds really interesting, girl.
i actually love it - it's like a big giant jigsaw puzzle - fitting in all the pieces. if cannot see the picture, how to make changes, right? plus, the work then can double up as training material, and all that good stuff lah! :D

[janicejoy]

YOu must hold a REALLY important role, Sila. Respect man! What did you major in Uni?

[Sila]

takde lah - i do it cause i like it. i'm good at spotting patterns and speaking my mind (sometimes to make a change you have to ask the simplest question: i.e, "um, so why DO you do it this way then?". often the answer is "because that's how we have always done it"). and must have muka tak malu because clients don't hire someone like me to make them feel stupid, but to guide them to come up with the right answers, and they feel they collaborated with you and because they have ownership of the answers, then they want to implement in properly instead of saying "this is some random solution brought in by some consulting company". kind of mental game there ;)

i actually did econs at uni - what i do now doesn't really have much to do with econs really. i sort of fell into this by accident when my mum told me after i graduated "get a real job or come back to malaysia and waste your time" :D it was october, i'd graduated in june, and was still working my part time job and hanging out with my friends... so i got a job lah..

[janicejoy]

Did you start off doing that or were you undergoing some sort of training?

[Sila]

my first job i worked as an "operations analyst" - mostly we wrote procedure manuals. after 1 year of that i switched jobs and in my new company i used the same skills (interviewing subject matter experts), learned the new modeling software, and started into process modeling. so no formal training. :D all on the job only...

[janicejoy]

So you'd stick to this job for now and many years to come?

[Sila]

well i dun think i'll stick with this forever even though i love it. because in this line of work, you go where the clients are. which means i travel almost every week. not really the kind of job i want when we're ready for kids, you know? since i started working, i worked 10 months in Richmond, Virginia, maybe about 2 years in Charlotte, North Carolina, 6 months in Hartford, connecticut, 3 months in chicago, 6 months in Buffalo, new york, and now going on 3 years in groton, connecticut. crazy lah. i've done short stints in San Fran, Phoenix and Denver. so i'm ready to hang up my traveling shoes. i might be able to trade my experience in with a job at a local company doing the same thing that i do now - but if not then i'm ok with that. this wasn't exactly my first love. i might think about goin gback to school or something...

[janicejoy]

You planning to do PHD ka

[Sila]

dunno lah - would be nice - i always thought having those 3 letters after my name would be cool. depends on what i get passionate about lah - and if what i'm into will be financially doable - dowan to do something then cannot get job what... :o

[janicejoy]

I was thinking along the same line. Also thought it would be cool to have a DR in front of my name and when I was doing my masters i aimed to be one before i turn 26. Well, it's obviously too late now since I'll be turning 27 in October. Also, realized that I don't want to come back after work and realize that I have more work to do. Been studying for close to 7 years ...so enough is enough. Time to have a look at my career and see where I want to head to.

[Sila]

i haven't even got a masters yet - but can do that in the phd program if i need to lah...unfortunately stuff i am interested in doing for the rest of my life probably cannot earn money ... so? now i go to work, make a bit of money, pay my mortgage lah. what to do? when time comes to change my lifestyle and work without getting on a plane, then i might switch it around and do something completely different. the good thing about this job is i work with ppl, so i'm fairly good at talking to ppl and conducting workshops, draft sessions that sort of thing. can use this skill to do other things (maybe anthropology? ethnomusicology? donnolah...) :o see how lah... or maybe i'll be lucky and there might be a local company willing to pay my rates to do what i know how to do and help them get their company in order... or not. we'll see lah...

[janicejoy]

I've always wanted to be in the hospitality line. Be a hotel manager or some sort. For some reason I diverted my attention to a Secretarial Diploma then on to degrees in IT. Which I am now kicking myself for. I love cooking and food but realized that I would leave that as a passion and do that during my free time. Now, managing a hotel or be in hotel management would be something I'd love to do. Oooh well.

[Sila]

i would TOTALLY come and stay and spend money at a hotel you owned, janice! like lorelei of GG only!! :D you'd be great at it!

[janicejoy]

You are so kind Sila. And to think you have total faith in my management skills! Whenever I watched GG - I imagined myself as Lorelai (minus a kid, of course) managing an inn. Wouldn't that be awesome! Small yet fun to run. Now, that's what I call job satisfaction!

[Dino]

I've always wanted to be in the hospitality line. Be a hotel manager or some sort. For some reason I diverted my attention to a Secretarial Diploma then on to degrees in IT. Which I am now kicking myself for. I love cooking and food but realized that I would leave that as a passion and do that during my free time. Now, managing a hotel or be in hotel management would be something I'd love to do. Oooh well.

Believe it or not, i was in Hotel School at one time and hated it. I actually got a diploma in Hotel and Catering....it was a fun course but hated the industry.

[Sila]

Believe it or not, i was in Hotel School at one time and hated it. I actually got a diploma in Hotel and Catering....it was a fun course but hated the industry.
do you have any specifics? like what did you hate about the industry?

[Sila]

You are so kind Sila. And to think you have total faith in my management skills! Whenever I watched GG - I imagined myself as Lorelai (minus a kid, of course) managing an inn. Wouldn't that be awesome! Small yet fun to run. Now, that's what I call job satisfaction!
if you were lorelai, by now at going on 27 you would have an 11 year old kid lah.. :eek: you would need a Suki to run the kitchen though.. :D so you can take care of the big picture and maybe dabble in the kitchen when you are in the mood...