Any Tolkien Fans Here?

[WitchKing]

Here goes....

Does anyone think the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy did justice to the book?

My view is they certainly were a visual fest, but its tantamount to cheating yourself of you dont read the book as well..

Anybody care to comment or rebut?

[Hisham]

Sila & I are, for sure. Both the books and movies are great in their own rights. There's no way they could have fitted the Council of Elrond in its entirety into the movie, for example, without putting 75% of the movie audiences to sleep; neither could they have given Tom Bombadil screen time without messing with the pace of the movie. However, I do have a problem with them not having the Scouring of the Shire at the end of the movie.

Pop quiz: Who else are among the 5 Wizards (Maiar made flesh) that came to Middle Earth from Valinor to help overthrow Sauron apart from the White Wizard Saruman and the Grey Wizard Gandalf?

And finally:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/arctrooperbum/acs/hornofgondor.gif

[WitchKing]

Pop quiz: Who else are among the 5 Wizards (Maiar made flesh) that came to Middle Earth from Valinor to help overthrow Sauron apart from the White Wizard Saruman and the Grey Wizard Gandalf?

Radagast, I think for one.Dunno who the other 2 are, yet. U check out Encyclopedia of Arda website often? Agree with you on the purist level on the exclusion of the SotS, but put on the movie buff cap, it'll be an anticlimax to the ending if they did put it in, I guess PeteJack gave us a compromise by having the 'possible' scouring as part of the "Mirror of Galadriel" scene :rolleyes:

Also, Ultimate Toys are taking orders for the Statue of Sauron by Sideshow Weta, that thing is HUGE!!! and the price .... ALSO HUGE !!! Want, want, but pay, pay, pay, you Die ! Die ! Die ! starving....

[Rayhong]

so much to say, but i'll be brief. in general i think pete jackson did a very good job seeing that he had to adept multiple storylines that occurred in a parallel timeline. for those who hadn't read, i think they have quite a good picture of the entire story.

just fyi and if you are interested in LOTR memorabilia, theres a shop in 1Utama which carries quite a good collection. it's called Ultimate Toys

www.ultimatetoys.com.my

[daBoss]

i am a fanatic of the trilogy (though it's actually 6 books bound into 3). read all of them years before the movies can out. i have also read the accompanying books that talks about the hstory of middle-earth :D

since the dem valar didn't want to come, they sent their kuncu, the maiar from the order of the istari. 5 of them came to the aid of middle-earth. curunír (saruman the white), olórin (gandalf the grey), aiwendil (radagast the brown), alatar and pallando.
i only know of radagast the brown can talk and communicate with the animals - not a lot mentioned about him and the other 2 'missing' maiar.

[Hisham]

5 of them came to the aid of middle-earth. curunír (saruman the white), olórin (gandalf the grey), aiwendil (radagast the brown), alatar and pallando.

Outstanding. *thumbs up* The last two are blue wizards, by the way.

[daBoss]

Outstanding. *thumbs up* The last two are blue wizards, by the way.
care to share more about the blue ones?

[Hisham]

care to share more about the blue ones?

Not much are known of them, except that when the Wizards' ship arrived at the Grey Havens, they left immediately for the East and were never heard of again. In fact their names weren't even in the books, not even in the appendices. IIRC the were named in JRR Tolkien's notes in the History of Middle Earth series edited by Christopher Tolkien.

[WitchKing]

IIRC the were named in JRR Tolkien's notes in the History of Middle Earth series edited by Christopher Tolkien.

I think those that have digested the History of Middle Earth series will really appreciate the depth of character development Tolkien has infused into the LOTR main characters, I mean I am in constant awe at the background history that a large number of the characters and location in Middle Earth has thanks to him.

Silmarillion (and Unfinished Tales) are a must-read !!

Heart pounding moments in Film 3 4me:

1. The Arrival of the Rohirrim on Pelennor Field
- Bernard Hill's 'Death! Death! Death!' - Outstanding!!
2. The Gondorians and Eldars bowing in tribute to the Hobbits
- I could swear the was a sudden increase in sniffling and heavy
breathing in the cinema at the onset of this scene (think I must
hv bn one of them); Touching to the Extreme.

[Hisham]

Apart from those books, other ancilliary books you can read are:

1) Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad

2) Tolkien Bestiary by David Day

3) Any of the dozens of Middle Earth Role Play (MERP) RPG sourcebooks published by Iron Crown Enterprise. All the books are out of print, since the RPG license have been transferred to Decipher. MERP had entire books devoted to certain regions, like Lothlorien, Northern Mirkwood (Thranduil's Kingdom), Southern Mirkwood (Dol Guldur area), Mount Gundabad, Weathertop (all eras, not just the ruins of the Third Age), Arthedain (during the early Third Age), etc.

Even if the books are out of print, you can find an active online community here:
Merp.com (http://www.merp.com/)

[daBoss]

The Arrival of the Rohirrim on Pelennor Field...Outstanding!!

i dun agree with this point... when i read the book, i could actually feel the pride, excitement, honor, need and 'can-do'.... but in the movie, it was 'just' one of the scenes...

[Awie]

Well guys, all in all the movies do give credit to Tolkien's work that is now more people knows about it.

By the way, would anyone care to comment whether they should make The Hobbit into a movie or any other Tolkien's writing into a movie. :rolleyes:

[Hisham]

Well guys, all in all the movies do give credit to Tolkien's work that is now more people knows about it.

By the way, would anyone care to comment whether they should make The Hobbit into a movie or any other Tolkien's writing into a movie. :rolleyes:

Awie! Our good friends at Weta are too busy working on King Kong, Narnia and preliminary work on the live action Neon Genesis Evangelion to do the Hobbit right now according to Daniel (http://swagonline.net/gallery.php?cat_id=11&action=images).

[WitchKing]

Even if the books are out of print, you can find an active online community here:
Merp.com (http://www.merp.com/)

It would be a big plus to Tolkien fans if The Silmarillion as well as The Hobbit are BOTH adapted for the bigscreen....one thing at a time, I guess. I would have preferred the former to come first, though. Imagine Sauron having more screen time !!

[Hisham]

It would be a big plus to Tolkien fans if The Silmarillion as well as The Hobbit are BOTH adapted for the bigscreen....one thing at a time, I guess. I would have preferred the former to come first, though. Imagine Sauron having more screen time !!

The Silmarillion would be great. If done right, the book can be adapted into a dozen movies. Lay of Lethian, Narn i Hin Hurin, Akallabeth... all can be different stories for different movies.

[WitchKing]

The Silmarillion would be great. If done right, the book can be adapted into a dozen movies. Lay of Lethian, Narn i Hin Hurin, Akallabeth... all can be different stories for different movies.

Heyyyy, now THAT's a thought!

It would do wonders for my current Middle-Earth movie withdrawal symptoms.

Reminds me of the MTV skit on ROTK with PeteJack and Stiller; a multipart prequel would be a great idea as opposed to a 'sequel' :D

[Sila]

well, i read the Hobbit and LoTR trilogy when i was still at ACS :) so it's been a long while. i never was able to get through the Silmarillion or any of the other history books Tolkien and his people wrote. so i did love the movies, and i must say that the SOUNDTRACKS were just f**king awesome.

my fav by far is the theme for the Uruk-Hai, first heard at the end of FoTR. man, what a tension-bringing, doomsaying, danger-ridden piece of music!

[WitchKing]

Does anyone here collect the Extended Edition DVDs for them? The video appendices to me i think are worth the price.

[WaterFish]

Hahaha... i gues all those who post here most likely also were RPG club member ^^ me included... too bad the club died off... the younger kids have no immagination to carry on.... BTW... i still occationally play in KL...

[Hisham]

Hahaha... i gues all those who post here most likely also were RPG club member ^^ me included... too bad the club died off... the younger kids have no immagination to carry on.... BTW... i still occationally play in KL...

There was an RPG club? Oh yeah. Way past my year. IIRC you guys used the chess club as a front didn't you?

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

There was an RPG club? Oh yeah. Way past my year. IIRC you guys used the chess club as a front didn't you?
come to think about our RPG days, any chance of reviving it.

[WitchKing]

come to think about our RPG days, any chance of reviving it.

What year was this 'unofficial' RPG club? Back in 86-87 some guys in 4ScM2 and 5ScA1 were playing the original Dungeons and Dragons RPG, and I know that my cuz Awie of Class 95 had a group of RPGers in his time.

[Hisham]

Jee Meng & Chang Chen have also asked me for an occasional game. I sometimes play old school D6 SWRPG with other SWAG (http://swagonline.net) people on Sundays over IRC. I play the ARC Trooper in this group pic (http://swagonline.net/view.php?photo_id=1867). But I miss a real old fasioned face to face session.

If you guys are game for a game, I can GM for you some weekend. Take a pick between SWRPG (D6 or d20), Call of Cthulhu, Cyberpunk 2020, GURPS or Shadowrun 2nd Ed.

[Sila]

Does anyone here collect the Extended Edition DVDs for them? The video appendices to me i think are worth the price.

i send my father the extended edition dvds for his collection (but only after i watch everything on it, of course!!!) but i haven't gotten him RoTK yet. maybe for his birthday ;)

[WitchKing]

i send my father the extended edition dvds for his collection (but only after i watch everything on it, of course!!!) but i haven't gotten him RoTK yet. maybe for his birthday ;)

My LOTR threesome occupies pride of place separate from the rest of my movie collections ie the argonath bookmarks are put to actual use. Will post pics if I can.....

[dreamwh]

what about ralph bakshi's animated version of LOTR? Anyone seen that? I think modern day anime will be able to do better justice...

[WitchKing]

what about ralph bakshi's animated version of LOTR? Anyone seen that? I think modern day anime will be able to do better justice...

oh yeah, come to think of it, that was my very first exposure to Tolkien. Was very young, still remember when the movie finished I said 'what kind of a sh*t ending is that?' :D like i said was very young at the time.

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

What year was this 'unofficial' RPG club? Back in 86-87 some guys in 4ScM2 and 5ScA1 were playing the original Dungeons and Dragons RPG, and I know that my cuz Awie of Class 95 had a group of RPGers in his time.
I am not too sure when it all started but I was with Awie. He was the one who introduced me to Advanced D&D, Star Wars and Robotech.

DM for AD&D: Hisham, Christopher and Jee Meng
GM for Star Wars: Hisham and Christoper
GM for Robotect: Christopher
GM for Shadowrun: Hisham

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

Jee Meng & Chang Chen have also asked me for an occasional game. I sometimes play old school D6 SWRPG with other SWAG (http://swagonline.net) people on Sundays over IRC. I play the ARC Trooper in this group pic (http://swagonline.net/view.php?photo_id=1867). But I miss a real old fasioned face to face session.

If you guys are game for a game, I can GM for you some weekend. Take a pick between SWRPG (D6 or d20), Call of Cthulhu, Cyberpunk 2020, GURPS or Shadowrun 2nd Ed.
sounds good but those games you mentioned are rather unfamiliar to me man.

[WitchKing]

My LOTR threesome occupies pride of place separate from the rest of my movie collections ie the argonath bookmarks are put to actual use. Will post pics if I can.....

My three preciouses:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nazlan/Argonath.jpg

Their two companions :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nazlan/Tirith.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nazlan/Smeagol.jpg

AND WHERE THEY ALL SIT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nazlan/SanctumSanctorum.jpg

[Hisham]

On the morning of the Great Quake of 2004, I was at a The Collectors Alliance meeting... I played with Frodo's short sword Sting:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/arctrooperbum/tca/06-sting.jpg

Then Vader took it away from me. :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/arctrooperbum/tca/07-vader.jpg

[WitchKing]

On the morning of the Great Quake of 2004, I was at a The Collectors Alliance meeting... I played with Frodo's short sword Sting:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/arctrooperbum/tca/06-sting.jpg

Then Vader took it away from me. :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/arctrooperbum/tca/07-vader.jpg

Wayyyy Wickedddd!

Izzat the one that 'glows', or the United Cutleries pure metal Sting?

[WitchKing]

On the morning of the Great Quake of 2004, I was at a The Collectors Alliance meeting... I played with Frodo's short sword Sting:

Then Vader took it away from me. :(

My cousin did this for the sliding door of my video room recently. Enjoy, Tolkien-philes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nazlan/P2020092.jpg

[Hisham]

Ai Elbereth Gilthoniel!!!

Mellon!

[WitchKing]

so much to say, but i'll be brief. in general i think pete jackson did a very good job seeing that he had to adept multiple storylines that occurred in a parallel timeline. for those who hadn't read, i think they have quite a good picture of the entire story.

just fyi and if you are interested in LOTR memorabilia, theres a shop in 1Utama which carries quite a good collection. it's called Ultimate Toys

www.ultimatetoys.com.my

...one thing i dont understand with Ultimate Toys. I placed an online order for the Minas Morgul figure with Sideshow Weta, and UNTIL NOW it is still in 'Order Placed' mode at their website.; Ultimate Toys already had their shipment come in several weeks ago! I would have expected the status of my online order to be 'Shipping' long ago.Anybody knows how come this is happening?

[Hisham]

I'm not a regular patron of UT, but the guys here sure are:

MySciFiFan Forums (http://myscififan.proboards40.com/index.cgi)

You're welcome to ask them any questions.

[jerrychoo2004]

hi guys
talking about rpg club i am also a member since form 1
well that time jeeming is the chariman , chris drop by sometimes
chen quite often come to play also...but i think he grad when i was in form 2
it was really good time playing it
ehhh fish u still play what games nowadays?
i still in Knights Online

[WitchKing]

hi guys
talking about rpg club i am also a member since form 1
well that time jeeming is the chariman , chris drop by sometimes
chen quite often come to play also...but i think he grad when i was in form 2
it was really good time playing it
ehhh fish u still play what games nowadays?
i still in Knights Online

Speaking of RPGs any of you keen on the possibility of an online
Middle Earth MMORPG, it sure would be so cool to have it. Prefer
virtually living in MidEarth than the Matrix, anytime. (WoW too, possibly, but still on a shitty dialup line, since Rawang is in the dark ages as far as bband is concerned).

[jerrychoo2004]

hmm middle earth online coming out somewhere late this year
gonna keep a look out for it
hey fish heard u wanna join my gang to play dota izzit?
most probably u will be in my team
and i expect performance of the highest standard!!!!

lets kill :D

[WitchKing]

Hisham's post in another thread got me thinking, when to speak Quenya, when to speak Sindarin. THe general impression I got is that we should be training ourselves to be adept at QUenya, first then if interested move to Sindarin.

ie Quenya is the Bahasa Istana, while Sindarin is Bahasa Rakyat, dis true??

What worries me is if we trying to get to grasp with Quenya when in actual fact we mite be hodgepodging it with sprinkling of Sindarin.

Comments, Edains/Ulairs/Eldars(third category ppl, perasan laa lu!)?

[Hisham]

Quenya is like Latin, if Sindarin is English... Noldors speak Quenya almost exclusively. Unfortunately, they're mostly back in the Undying Lands. The Sindar (consisting of the exiled Noldors from the 1st Age) and the Silvan (those who haven't seen the Undying Lands before, like Thranduil's kin, and the local wood-elves under Galadriel) speak mostly Sindarin, but they use Quenya for special events.

Aragorn speaks Sindarin most of the time with the other elves, but when he sang his throne ascension bit, that was in Quenya.

Or we can also go with Dwarvish: Tarag-Udrig! Rakhas-Udrig!

[WitchKing]

Quenya is like Latin, if Sindarin is English... Noldors speak Quenya almost exclusively. Unfortunately, they're mostly back in the Undying Lands. The Sindar (consisting of the exiled Noldors from the 1st Age) and the Silvan (those who haven't seen the Undying Lands before, like Thranduil's kin, and the local wood-elves under Galadriel) speak mostly Sindarin, but they use Quenya for special events.

Aragorn speaks Sindarin most of the time with the other elves, but when he sang his throne ascension bit, that was in Quenya.

Or we can also go with Dwarvish: Tarag-Udrig! Rakhas-Udrig!

Now am I really disturbed, so you mean most of the phrases we been using are in effect Sindarin ?

[Hisham]

Here's Quenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenya) & Sindarin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindarin) in a nutshell, courtesy of Wikipedia. This here (http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/language.htm) is my favourite site regarding Middle-Earth languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Middle-earth_languages), with some input from David Salo (http://www.musefanpage.com/NewFiles/salo_answers.html) himself, the interpreter for the LOTR movies.

[WitchKing]

Here's Quenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenya) & Sindarin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindarin) in a nutshell, courtesy of Wikipedia. This here (http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/language.htm) is my favourite site regarding Middle-Earth languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Middle-earth_languages), with some input from David Salo (http://www.musefanpage.com/NewFiles/salo_answers.html) himself, the interpreter for the LOTR movies.

Many thanks, bro. Bookmarking......

[dreamwh]

This Tolkien is one sick bugger.... Sindarin, Quenya. etc.

kitorang Spanish also struggling for the last 5 years... sampai skarang only takat Hola and Como estas.... and some swear words (from movies)

[WitchKing]

This Tolkien is one sick bugger.... Sindarin, Quenya. etc.

kitorang Spanish also struggling for the last 5 years... sampai skarang only takat Hola and Como estas.... and some swear words (from movies)


:laugh: wat 2 do dream, some of us are suckers for punishment.

[Sila]

This Tolkien is one sick bugger.... Sindarin, Quenya. etc.

kitorang Spanish also struggling for the last 5 years... sampai skarang only takat Hola and Como estas.... and some swear words (from movies)
here's one more for you.. "cingao!" (mexican spanish for f**k i believe)

me llamo sila, yo soy la reina de las tortugas. tengo hambre. yo quiero tamales con pollo y salsa verde.

that's about it for my spanish, dream! hahaahaha :laugh:

[dreamwh]

here's one more for you.. "cingao!" (mexican spanish for f**k i believe)

me llamo sila, yo soy la reina de las tortugas. tengo hambre. yo quiero tamales con pollo y salsa verde.

that's about it for my spanish, dream! hahaahaha :laugh:


I saw an Argentinian movie at Midvalley once with a girl... titled "Son of the Bride". People in the movie always went "que pasa" and then everyone kisses each other. So que pasa means you get a kiss. :eek:

The next time i tried this trick on the girl i saw the movie with, she never called me again and moved to singapore. :mad:

[WitchKing]

The next time i tried this trick on the girl i saw the movie with, she never called me again and moved to singapore. :mad:

..i dont know whether to offer you my sympathies, or roll on the floor laughing my freakin A** off.

[dreamwh]

..i dont know whether to offer you my sympathies, or roll on the floor laughing my freakin A** off.

My life... a sad series of comedic misfortune. Comedy for others, tragedy for me.

[WitchKing]

My life... a sad series of comedic misfortune. Comedy for others, tragedy for me.

There, there. Keep your chin up. Still plenty of candidates left; not everyone can cabut to Singapore.....

[euj]

My life... a sad series of comedic misfortune. Comedy for others, tragedy for me.
what's so sad about it?

[dreamwh]

what's so sad about it?


I wanted to be King, but god made me a Jester....

but then Jesters are now more powerful than the Kings. Good also...

[Sila]

I saw an Argentinian movie at Midvalley once with a girl... titled "Son of the Bride". People in the movie always went "que pasa" and then everyone kisses each other. So que pasa means you get a kiss. :eek:

The next time i tried this trick on the girl i saw the movie with, she never called me again and moved to singapore. :mad:
ROFLMAO!!!! :laugh: apala dream...

[WitchKing]

Heard the latest from Pete Jackson? sez The Hobbit movie adaptation is a whole 3 years away for him. Damn that fello, I think he takes a sick pleasure in making us all wait this long for the LOTR prequel :mad:

[Voon Chan]

Heard the latest from Pete Jackson? sez The Hobbit movie adaptation is a whole 3 years away for him. Damn that fello, I think he takes a sick pleasure in making us all wait this long for the LOTR prequel :mad:Relax & wait! It should be good too. Hobbits will be equally interesting (maybe)

[Hisham]

I can't wait to see more of Gwaihir. There's no such thing as too much Gwaihir.

OK, when the movie is filmed, I have a strong feeling that they'll have a Legolas cameo (played by Orlando Bloom) at Thranduil's kingdom, seeing as Legolas is Thranduil's son, and Thranduil locked up Bilbo, Thorin, Balin, Gloin and co in jail.

[jerrychoo2004]

yaya at last we gonna see a dragon
no fantasy story is complete without a battle with dragon :)

[WitchKing]

I can't wait to see more of Gwaihir. There's no such thing as too much Gwaihir.

OK, when the movie is filmed, I have a strong feeling that they'll have a Legolas cameo (played by Orlando Bloom) at Thranduil's kingdom, seeing as Legolas is Thranduil's son, and Thranduil locked up Bilbo, Thorin, Balin, Gloin and co in jail.

THIS probly a longshot,but imagine having a Silmarillion based movie, not with Gwaihir, but with his and most every other great eagles progenitor, Thorondor !!! Now THATS what I'm talking about ! dream on, witchking, dream on.......

[WitchKing]

yaya at last we gonna see a dragon
no fantasy story is complete without a battle with dragon :)

Battle of the Five Armies, dudes and dudettes. Nuff Said.

[Voon Chan]

Nazlan, Go to http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?p=77283#post77283

[Hisham]

THIS probly a longshot,but imagine having a Silmarillion based movie, not with Gwaihir, but with his and most every other great eagles progenitor, Thorondor !!! Now THATS what I'm talking about ! dream on, witchking, dream on.......
Damn straight. If you thought Gwaihir was a big eagle, Thorondor is listed with a 180 ft wing span.

[WitchKing]

Need to share:my reputation as Rawang WitchKing is now known to my officemates. :eek:

They now trying to exorcise the ringwraith spirit of Murazor out of my soul. And for that i have been commanded by the Head of Department to attend two days of Seminar on Islam Hadhari at IKIM (something about Understanding Moral Integrity). Looks like even more cellphone surfing for next two days!!!

Hisham/Khamul, you have the bridge!! :p

[Voon Chan]

Need to share:my reputation as Rawang WitchKing is now known to my officemates. :eek:

They now trying to exorcise the ringwraith spirit of Murazor out of my soul. And for that i have been commanded by the Head of Department to attend two days of Seminar on Islam Hadhari at IKIM (something about Understanding Moral Integrity). Looks like even more cellphone surfing for next two days!!!

Hisham/Khamul, you have the bridge!! :pI know some people in Ikim. They are nice people. Take them to middle earth & tell them the stories

[Hisham]

(something about Understanding Moral Integrity).
What is this "Moral Integrity" you talk about? I am intrigued! Do you have its shoe size?

[LiLiaN]

not sure about that shoes size but paris hilton is size 11!

[athena]

not sure about that shoes size but paris hilton is size 11!
paris really got big feet!!!

[Voon Chan]

paris really got big feet!!!11 is very big!

[athena]

11 is very big!
yup..yk, being 6" is size 10...and he has so much prob finding shoes liao!

[Voon Chan]

yup..yk, being 6" is size 10...and he has so much prob finding shoes liao!Place special order, no problem

[Sila]

11 is very big!
i'm a size 10 shoes.. :( i have big feet...

[LiLiaN]

my cousin adrian wears size 13... have to order his shoes!

[WitchKing]

Luthien and Beren, Arwen and Aragorn, ....who else matches them?

[WitchKing]

for cross-Babylon5 and LOTR fans only.

didja catch on Babylon5, Season 2 episode titled 'The Geometry of Shadows', the techno-mage was actually quoting a line from Tolkien in regards to 'wizards being prone to anger...'? Cool.

[Hisham]

for cross-Babylon5 and LOTR fans only.

didja catch on Babylon5, Season 2 episode titled 'The Geometry of Shadows', the techno-mage was actually quoting a line from Tolkien in regards to 'wizards being prone to anger...'? Cool.
The entire B5 series was an exercise in Tolkien references. JMS practically said in an issue of Cinescape I read that it was inspired by LOTR. Shadows. Rangers. The hidden king. Ancient races leaving the universe, leaving the younger ones behind.

[WitchKing]

The entire B5 series was an exercise in Tolkien references. JMS practically said in an issue of Cinescape I read that it was inspired by LOTR. Shadows. Rangers. The hidden king. Ancient races leaving the universe, leaving the younger ones behind.

I think that probably nailed the riddle why i like these two stories macam nak kenan sawan.

[WitchKing]

Latest from Sideshow Collectibles is that this Sauron 2 FEET TALL statue will be shipping in September. Thats NEXT MONTH!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nazlan/9341_image03.jpg

[LiLiaN]

wow! where are you going to put that? :amazed:

[WitchKing]

wow! where are you going to put that? :amazed:

Thats a whole new set of problems for me. I just DONT HAVE ANY SPACE LEFT NO MORE! And my wife does not want any statues OUTSIDE the vidroom, statues freak her out...gonna have to get creative before it comes in somehow....................

[LiLiaN]

ooh... that's a tough one... get new shelfing or something..?
but where to put that shelf though...
i remember you have a full room of memorabilia already!

[WitchKing]

ooh... that's a tough one... get new shelfing or something..?
but where to put that shelf though...
i remember you have a full room of memorabilia already!

<sigh> dun remind me .... problem problem (but at least dis wan is a nice problem to have)

[LiLiaN]

:) nice problem to have indeed... ;)

[Hisham]

Sapa buat ni? Daniel or one of his friends?

[WitchKing]

Sapa buat ni? Daniel or one of his friends?

err nope. 2 guyz and a girl. Greg Tozer, David Tremont and Heather Kilgour

[Hisham]

err nope. 2 guyz and a girl. Greg Tozer, David Tremont and Heather Kilgour
Ah OK... ingatkan Dan & geng dia Ben Wooten & Chris Rivers buat.

[Lava Gal]

i'm a size 10 shoes.. :( i have big feet...
well Sila...at least u r tall right??

sigh....me....size 8-9...:(
shoe-shopkeepers will usually take 6 or 7...for me to try (based on size) till i show them my kaki-gajah!
all those nice ladies shoes all....usually so small in front, cant fit!