Dslr.....

[TML]

izzit now everyone should own a DSLR??....i going anyway also can saw ppl bawah like a pro....:rolleyes:

[alfred98]

Jealous ah???:blink:

[kamkuey]

hahaha.. everyone jumping unto the bandwagon.. hahaha

DSLR getting cheaper and cheaper liao.

Very soon can get sub RM1k DSLR. hehehe

[Fishingman]

hahaha.. everyone jumping unto the bandwagon.. hahaha

DSLR getting cheaper and cheaper liao.

Very soon can get sub RM1k DSLR. hehehe

Hehehe I'll pass on it at the moment. Don't want to be carrying a big camera with bag and stuff. ;)

[Voon Chan]

I just got a Sony a850 yesterday as I won it in a lucky draw:D. Yet to test it

[Oddfather]

izzit now everyone should own a DSLR??....i going anyway also can saw ppl bawah like a pro....:rolleyes:

waaa......how you know ah? Bawah pun tengok until like that.......:blink::eek:

[Anson F-Clef]

I just got a Sony a850 yesterday as I won it in a lucky draw:D. Yet to test it

Connnnn - graaaaa - tuuuu.....................LATIONS! :D:D

[Anson F-Clef]

izzit now everyone should own a DSLR??....i going anyway also can saw ppl bawah like a pro....:rolleyes:

Come, come, if you desire, come and join the CANON bandwagon like myself and Justin Hong :p:p hahahahahaha

[kamkuey]

Come, come, if you desire, come and join the CANON bandwagon like myself and Justin Hong :p:p hahahahahaha
Hmm... why CANON leh?

Nikon tak boleh ar?

hahaha

[Anson F-Clef]

Hmm... why CANON leh?

Nikon tak boleh ar?

hahaha

I am NOT trying to imply Nikon tak boleh mah! :laugh:

[kamkuey]

I am NOT trying to imply Nikon tak boleh mah! :laugh:
haha..

then you should have not put there CANON mar.. should have said.. come join the DSLR bandwagon...

many more here have DSLR liao you know..

hehe

[Voon Chan]

Thank you!! :D

Sony can or not?Connnnn - graaaaa - tuuuu.....................LATIONS! :D:D

[kamkuey]

can.. any brand also can wan :)

[Anson F-Clef]

OK OK I think this thread should be SHIFTED to the PHOTOGRAPHY THREAD instead of UNDERGROUND - SHALL WE?

[TML]

like me...what model DSLR suit for me?

i prefer cannon....:o

must depend the price also...if too expensive maybe need to wash toilet whole year....:(

[athena]

why cannot.. Nikon is better wut! :p

*ducks from all the Canon fans*

[jerrychoo2004]

lol if for beginner then get the entry level dslr lor like me
Canon 1000D with kit lens
i think the price is around Rm1700 now

if u like Nikon....i think D90 is a good steal nowadays RM3400
and the kit lens is so much better than Canon kit lens

[alfred98]

U want second hand Nikon D90???:D

[athena]

why doctor, you giving up photography?

[Chris C]

OK OK I think this thread should be SHIFTED to the PHOTOGRAPHY THREAD instead of UNDERGROUND - SHALL WE?

Threads merged. :)

[alfred98]

why doctor, you giving up photography?

If like that all the lens also had to go!!!......Thinking of up grade mah!!!!:laugh:

[kamkuey]

If like that all the lens also had to go!!!......Thinking of up grade mah!!!!:laugh:
wah.. upgrade... plus all lenses got to go... going full frame ar?

fuhyor!!

[TML]

If like that all the lens also had to go!!!......Thinking of up grade mah!!!!:laugh:

sell how much?..got special discount?...:o

[alfred98]

sell how much?..got special discount?...:o

Before I can say how much....better buy a good helmet then onli ask for permission!!!!!:laugh:

[ungsutiong]

Before I can say how much....better buy a good helmet then onli ask for permission!!!!!:laugh:

Do you want bullet-proof jacket? :rolleyes:

[alfred98]

Do you want bullet-proof jacket? :rolleyes:

So far from reliable source.....no need!!!:laugh:

[bizzi]

after buying the nikon d50 from KK, i realised i seldom use it.. dslrs are just too cumbersome..

i don't really want to be carrying a huge sign saying "TOURIST!!" when i go on holidays


when i was in HK, i got myself a Canon S90

http://asia.cnet.com/cnet/i/r/2009/dc/44965338/sc001.jpg


for most purposes, it's a fantastic camera, esp for night shots..

some of the pictures we've taken

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4559257977_d7df8ce2d8_d.jpg
opposite hdb block from my kitchen window

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/4559257367_88c7289e17_o_d.jpg
somewhere in Aberdeen, HK

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/4559886942_181bc49740_o_d.jpg
some backlane in HK


i think i've only used the flash in less than 5% of any night/low-light shots

[bizzi]

more pictures on macro mode
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/4559257755_0ce44bf7e7_o_d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/4559887342_492c4f26d3_o_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4559887248_5fea95148c_o_d.jpg

[bizzi]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4559887084_4f3feecb41_o_d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3589/4559887206_5a299ce574_o_d.jpg


unless of course you want to do this professionally, i don't really know why you would want a dslr

[athena]

SLR provides more control rather than leaving it to electronics to adjust...

[bizzi]

SLR provides more control rather than leaving it to electronics to adjust...

i agree with that.. but to what extent to we really require the control of our pictures?

again, for people who want to use it as/for a profession, then sure i can understand..

however, i see more and more people buying dslrs, spending time researching costs, benefits, accessories, magazines, only to take family and vacation shots.. :wacko: and best of all.. only put them up on the internet :weird:

i've been using an SLR since 1990, starting with a Nikon EM.. in between i've used the "idiot proofs 35mm" ones as well..

when it comes to actual negatives and processed photos, there's a huge disparity between SLR and non-SLR

having said that, my photography tutor back then was the senior photojournalist for the straits times and he's won several awards for his photos from kodak instant cameras, you know those you buy and throw away after processing.

i think someone has said in this forum recently, a better camera doesn't make you a better photographer..

[Dino]

I think most people think that by buying a DSLR camera, their photos automatically comes out like pros. One can have the best hammer and chisel but don't mean one can instantly carve out a statue from a block of stone.

These days, people got more money to throw at stuff they think they need.
Unless you can invest the time to learn how to use the DSLR, better go get a casual camera. When traveling, i prefer a P&S camera, no time to waste snapping pictures at one spot.

[singteck]

There are differences between a DSLR's photo compared to a digital P&S. A P&S cannot do what a DSLR can. Bare with me, I am not trying to be snobbish.

In the days of 35mm film camera, the body of the camera is only used to hold the film. The film is always the same size 35mm (not talking about medium or large format). So the lense of the camera is the only variable. SLR then just give the advantage of changable lense compared to a compact 35mm camera.

With digital cameras, the lense is not the only variable. The sensor size will affect the outcome as well. At the moment DSLR still have the largest sensor for consumer cameras. The expensive ones have full frame sensors (equal to 35mm film size) and the cheaper ones have a smaller sensor (DX for nikon, no idea what canon calls theirs :cheesy:, and the nikon's are bigger then the canon :laugh:).

We have been taking about crop factor of a certain lense on a certain camera. The biggest effect is not the crop factor but depth of field. The bigger the sensor the smaller the depth of field for a given aperture and focal length. In another word, if both the DSLR and P&S camera have a lense of 50mm focal length and f2.0 aperture, the DSLR will produce a background that is more blur then the P&S.

All things considered, if you don't know what the camera settings are for, the it really doesn't make any difference. It's the eye behind the camera that really makes the difference.

singteck

[kamkuey]

facebook photos, blog photos.... You everyday camera phone (2.0mp with autofocus) will suffice

Seriously....

except that it be slower than your average digicam.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/kamkuey/A%20Photo%20a%20Day/c09ecd37.jpg?t=1272204352

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/kamkuey/A%20Photo%20a%20Day/ab26e0f6.jpg?t=1271218529

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/kamkuey/A%20Photo%20a%20Day/69e7024e.jpg?t=1271036468

Taken with a RM500 SE mobile phone.

Ok mar. hahaha.

Office just bought a RM499 Samsung ES65 camera. Fuhyor.. not bad man. 27mm wide lense with SmartAuto feature. Nice!

Point at people, it goes into PORTRAIT mode.

Point at nice hills.. it turns to LANDSCAPE mode.

Point at city lights, it goes into NIGHT LANDSCAPE mode.

Go close and point at your morning nasi lemak, it goes into MACRO mode.

Dem easy to use wei..

Oh... point at a person with a bright window behind him/her... it tells you that it has taken the BACKLIGHT into consideration.

:eek:

I like!!

[bizzi]

facebook photos, blog photos.... You everyday camera phone (2.0mp with autofocus) will suffice

Taken with a RM500 SE mobile phone.

Ok mar. hahaha.

Nice pictures..



Office just bought a RM499 Samsung ES65 camera. Fuhyor.. not bad man. 27mm wide lense with SmartAuto feature. Nice!

Point at people, it goes into PORTRAIT mode.

Point at nice hills.. it turns to LANDSCAPE mode.

Point at city lights, it goes into NIGHT LANDSCAPE mode.

Go close and point at your morning nasi lemak, it goes into MACRO mode.

Dem easy to use wei..

Oh... point at a person with a bright window behind him/her... it tells you that it has taken the BACKLIGHT into consideration.

I like!!

these days P&S digicams are damn smart..

eh.. have u seen the new Photoshop CS5? fantastic man.

1 function on its own is worth buying the entire program..

you can highlight something on the foreground and hit "delete" and photoshop can fill in the background for you, automatically!!

the example they gave was 2 kids on the beach with the ocean and rocky cliffs in the B/G.. just draw around the 2 kids and delete.. and photoshop filled in the sand where their legs were, ocean to replace the body and the clifss where their heads were.. needs a tiny bit of touch-up, but what a time-saver!

[LiLiaN]

oh wow, didn't know PS CS5 is revolutionising digital imaging so much...

i've thought of getting dSLR before but it's really quite out of my budget...
plus i like travelling light, so P&S suits my purpose so much more...
i can bring it with me day in day out and photograph things whenever i want... :)

[kamkuey]

oh wow, didn't know PS CS5 is revolutionising digital imaging so much...

i've thought of getting dSLR before but it's really quite out of my budget...
plus i like travelling light, so P&S suits my purpose so much more...
i can bring it with me day in day out and photograph things whenever i want... :)

...exactly..!!

But I am not anti DSLR lar. I am all for it.

If your skill is at level 10, then having a DSLR will bring it up to level 12. But if you are at level 1, getting a DSLR might bring you down to level 0. :laugh:

[Dino]

...exactly..!!

But I am not anti DSLR lar. I am all for it.

If your skill is at level 10, then having a DSLR will bring it up to level 12. But if you are at level 1, getting a DSLR might bring you down to level 0. :laugh:

Another common case i see....buy DSLR but end up using auto mode because cannot figure out how to use it. :squeeze:

[Alkapocino]

...exactly..!!

But I am not anti DSLR lar. I am all for it.

If your skill is at level 10, then having a DSLR will bring it up to level 12. But if you are at level 1, getting a DSLR might bring you down to level 0. :laugh:

Unker, what is your level? :)

[kamkuey]

Unker, what is your level? :)
oh.. i level 2 nia.. with DSLR now level 2.2

wahaha :)

[TML]

after long thinking...i'm will not buy any DSLR for the moment...:(

stick to my louyeh P&S camera...:sad-2:

[Alkapocino]

after long thinking...i'm will not buy any DSLR for the moment...:(

stick to my louyeh P&S camera...:sad-2:

Why be sad and kept looking at your "louyeh" (whatever that means) P&S??

I think you should go on an get one. Start getting busy shooting toilet bokeh, maggots, AMK ang moi yang and Botanical Garden cacings, Geylang lulians, Sentosa laser fountain etc....

I am sure you will be lots happier. After all DSLR's nowadays are really affordable and quite easy to learn. :)

[TML]

Why be sad and kept looking at your "louyeh" (whatever that means) P&S??

I think you should go on an get one. Start getting busy shooting toilet bokeh, maggots, AMK ang moi yang and Botanical Garden cacings, Geylang lulians, Sentosa laser fountain etc....

I am sure you will be lots happier. After all DSLR's nowadays are really affordable and quite easy to learn. :)

why must shoot "AMK" ang moi yang?...:rolleyes:

so which model DSLR to u think suit for beginneer like me?..:o

[Alkapocino]

why must shoot "AMK" ang moi yang?...:rolleyes:

so which model DSLR to u think suit for beginneer like me?..:o


whichever you feel like holding...no need to ask ppl lah.give you all sorts of suggestion but they themselves also never own one!!

[TML]

whichever you feel like holding...no need to ask ppl lah.give you all sorts of suggestion but they themselves also never own one!!

:D

ok..will look around. Hope within my budget range...:(

[Alkapocino]

:D

ok..will look around. Hope within my budget range...:(

Good for you...at least one postive thinking from you today. Why not replace :( with a big grin :D.

I am sure things will get better when you start seeing things positively.

[TML]

Good for you...at least one postive thinking from you today. Why not replace :( with a big grin :D.

I am sure things will get better when you start seeing things positively.

anything related to the $$$ will be sad mah...:(

[Alkapocino]

anything related to the $$$ will be sad mah...:(

Gee..you are really chronic case. Change icon seems like moving a mountain. Ciao....my guru ask me to run away from negative people!! ;)

[kamkuey]

:D

ok..will look around. Hope within my budget range...:(
what is your budget range?

[TML]

what is your budget range?

RM2k....:o

[alfred98]

see this.....:)
http://www.facebook.com/fotografdunyasi?ref=ts&v=wall#!/video/video.php?v=109020139140167

[TML]

see this.....:)
http://www.facebook.com/fotografdunyasi?ref=ts&v=wall#!/video/video.php?v=109020139140167

alien words...but nv mind...can see those nice picture...:D

[Anson F-Clef]

RM2k....:o

This calls for 2 KNOWN choices, for the least:

Canon EOS1100D with 18-55mm IS kit lens
Nikon D3000 with 18-55mm VR kit lens

If between RM2k and RM2.5k u can even get EOS600D with 18-55mm IS OR Nikon D5100 with 18-55mm VR (Nikon D5100's overall Image Quality can MATCH D7000 ler!)

[justin hong]

Check out this site.

http://canondslrs.com/

[Anson F-Clef]

why must shoot "AMK" ang moi yang?...:rolleyes:

Never mind, soon I will be unleashing some TRAVEL series for all forummers to watch and behold :p

[TML]

Ok. I plan to get DSLR. Now what the latest model should I get?
My choice is Nikon or cannon. Pls help me all sifu

[Alkapocino]

Ok. I plan to get DSLR. Now what the latest model should I get?
My choice is Nikon or cannon. Pls help me all sifu

You need cannon to shoot who? :blink:

Nikon or Canon...hmm...it's like milo or ovaltine?

[kamkuey]

Ok. I plan to get DSLR. Now what the latest model should I get?
My choice is Nikon or cannon. Pls help me all sifu

Latest models?

Canon EOS 1Ds MarkIII
Nikon D3s

:eek:

[kamkuey]

You need cannon to shoot who? :blink:

Nikon or Canon...hmm...it's like milo or ovaltine?

hahaha... that's a good one!

Pepsi or Coke
Honda or Toyota

:laugh:

[Alkapocino]

Unker, you getting the latest model? Wanna pass down your old faithful ff to me? :D

[kamkuey]

Unker, you getting the latest model? Wanna pass down your old faithful ff to me? :D
hahaha..

unfortunately.. the one I am eyeing not yet available. Dunno when they gonna announce :S

[TML]

:(

Any rekomend or not? Budget RM3k plus. I want those can zoom quite far.

[kamkuey]

:(

any rekomend or not? Budget rm3k plus. I want those can zoom quite far.

Nikon DSLR
Nikon D3100 + 18-55mm lens (2k)
+ tamron 70-300mm lens (600)
Total RM2.6k

Canon DSLR
Canon 1100D + 18-55mm lens (rm2k)
+ Tamron 70-300mm lens (600)
Total RM2.6k


NON-DSLR
Canon PowerShot SX30 -24-840mm (1.6k)
Total RM1.6k

Ball in your court :eek:

If I remember nice nice hoh.. you have been wanting a DSLR for quite somtime liao wor. When you want to take the leap?

If you want to get into photography (instead of getting a DSLR), get the following :-

Nikon D3100 body only - RM1.6k
Nikon AFS 35mm f1.8 - RM850
Total - RM2,450.00

With the above, you will learn how to control the camera instead of letting the camera control you. :noworry:

[Alkapocino]

Unker is daBest....use camera to control people! :eek:

[kamkuey]

true mar..

if you buy a DSLR and use zoom zoom lenses and take pictures in full auto mode, it kind of defeats the purpose. not to say that it's wrong to shoot full auto, but you are not maximising the potential of the camera mar. Much like buying a 60" LED full HD TV and only watching VCD on it..

... or buying a car with 6 speed transmission and only using 2nd 3rd and 4th gear..

... or buying a state of the art computer with the latest processor, 32gb memory, 4x3TB HDD in RAID1 config complete with UPS, backup tape, and a E1 internet line and a 30" monitor only to do online chat and play facebook games.

..or buying a HUGE samsonite trolley luggauge only to put one change of clothes to teluk batik...

.. or buying a Nissan GTR just to go pasar pagi buy sayur...

.. or.. aiya.. u know what i mean lar. hahahaha..

[alfred98]

Hahahaaaa....that's the same I being telling all those DSLR user which on auto mode!!!:D

[TML]

Kamkuey where are u know?

[kamkuey]

Kamkuey where are u know?
Errr... where are u know?

where are you now is it?

me in Petaling Jaya loh....

[TML]

Wish u are here jb or s'pore

[TML]

Kamkuey....until now I'm still buy because here nobody can teach me how
to take the picture like pro. :o
And how to take cahaya lari punya picture. Keke

[kamkuey]

come PJ lar... hehehe..

will share with you picture taking stuff as long as there's an ice-blend caramel frap for me to 'lubricate' my voice box. kekeke

[TML]

kamkuey...what is mirrorless argh?

some ppl said buy panasonic GF2...lagi bagus for me.

[kamkuey]

Here are some nice readings for you...

Should you buy a DSLR or a compact camera (http://www.cameralabs.com/features/DSLR_or_compact/should_you_buy_a_DSLR.shtml)

Do You Really Need a DSLR Camera? 5 Questions to Ask Yourself (http://www.photoble.com/photo-gear/do-you-need-dslr-camera)


Should you buy a DSLR or Point and Shoot Digital Camera? (http://www.digital-photography-school.com/should-you-buy-a-dslr-or-point-and-shoot-digital-camera)


Why a digital SLR? (http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Guides/dslr_buying_guide_01.htm)

[kamkuey]

kamkuey...what is mirrorless argh?

some ppl said buy panasonic GF2...lagi bagus for me.

Mirrorless Camera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrorless_interchangeable-lens_camera) <----------- click

[Alkapocino]

come PJ lar... hehehe..

will share with you picture taking stuff as long as there's an ice-blend caramel frap for me to 'lubricate' my voice box. kekeke

Unker, I'm curious...besides your voice box what else you need to lubricate? ;)

Ice blended cendol on me next week to lubricate your tool box! :p

[kamkuey]

Unker, I'm curious...besides your voice box what else you need to lubricate? ;)

Ice blended cendol on me next week to lubricate your tool box! :p
hahaha.. you know I know enough lar. hehehe...

ice blend cendol? can can..lai lai... got cream on top bor?

[TML]

Ok. But not fully understand :rolleyes:

[kamkuey]

make a trip down to KL lar... bowls of ice kacang or ice blend coffee caramel would suffice to lubricate throat to continue sharing.. hehehe

[TML]

make a trip down to KL lar... bowls of ice kacang or ice blend coffee caramel would suffice to lubricate throat to continue sharing.. hehehe

When u come jb let me know. Ok?

[TML]

And don't forget to bring alone ur weapon. Keke

[kamkuey]

haha.. the last time i was in JB... 2 years back.. probably another 2 more years (maybe more) before I am there again... should there be a wedding assignment there .. hehe

[TML]

Go jb jalan jalan lah. Look for friends or relative. Keke

[kamkuey]

dunno anyone in jb wor..

hahaha...

[Anson F-Clef]

why cannot.. Nikon is better wut! :p

*ducks from all the Canon fans*

For now, in its respective classes (Full-Frame and Semi-Pro e.g. D3s and D7000) becos of BETTER noise control versus detail retention :p

[TML]

Kamkuey.....if I want to choose this 2 models nikon5100 and canon 600d which one better? Don't talk about skills.

[alfred98]

Kamkuey.....if I want to choose this 2 models nikon5100 and canon 600d which one better? Don't talk about skills.

with skill both the same!!!!:laugh:

[TML]

with skill both the same!!!!:laugh:

Kns...I said don't talk about skills.

[kamkuey]

Kamkuey.....if I want to choose this 2 models nikon5100 and canon 600d which one better? Don't talk about skills.

which one better ar? The one that fit better in your hands. :eek:

ok ok .. if dowan talk about skills.. I assume that you do not want to talk about brand preference as well as the type of photos you like to take and PURELY refer to technical specs of the two cameras.

If that is the case.. then check out this link <CLICK> (http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eos600d&products=nikon_d5100).


but seriously... both models will give you bang for buck. Both are also very good starting point.

So which one is better? That is up to you. Essentially they are the same spec wise. There are minor differences here and there, but is up to you to decide which one is the better.. or which one you prefer.

If you asking me which one you should buy... then it's easy. Get the Canon 600D. Why? Because it's newer. :laugh:

So happy buying!! Hope not to see you asking the same thing again next year.. hahahaha

with skill both the same!!!!:laugh:

fuah!! best reply ever!! :laugh:

[Anson F-Clef]

with skill both the same!!!!:laugh:

SOKONG 1,000,000 per cent Loktor Alf - but talk about STILL PHOTOGRAPHY, noise reduction versus detail control, as well as burst rate shooting, Canon 600D may still lose quite a wee bit to D5100 even though 600D is WAY MORE SUPERIOR, video-wise :laugh:

[TML]

Ok Kamkuey. Thk. Now I serious want to get one
that why I'm asking so much.
I will go through and see which one should I prefer.


which one better ar? The one that fit better in your
hands. :eek:

ok ok .. if dowan talk about skills.. I assume that you do not want to talk about brand preference as well as the type of photos you like to take and PURELY refer to technical specs of the two cameras.

If that is the case.. then check out this link <CLICK> (http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eos600d&products=nikon_d5100).

but seriously... both models will give you bang for buck. Both are also very good starting point.
So which one is better? That is up to you. Essentially they are the same spec wise. There are minor differences here and there, but is up to you to decide which one is the better.. or which one you prefer.

If you asking me which one you should buy... then it's easy. Get the Canon 600D. Why? Because it's newer. :laugh:

So happy buying!! Hope not to see you asking the same thing again next year.. hahahaha



fuah!! best reply ever!! :laugh: