Remembering the victims of the worst Asian earthquake

[ah-wong]

Although this terrible tragedy happened a few days ago, i still watch the news every morning to look for new footage and updates. everytime i will also say a little pray for all the victims and those heroic people who are helping in any way they can.

What a way to end a year but I hope this coming new year will bring new hope to everyone.

[piglet]

Quite a bad ending year due to the tsunami catastrophe...anyway, hope it will be better year and better better year..
If you would like to help the victims of tsunami....
here are the sites...

https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp (donation through online credit card)

http://www.redcross.org.sg/new_bayofbengal_m.htm (online fund transfer for those who have DBS account, cheque)

[piglet]

Quite a bad ending year due to the tsunami catastrophe...anyway, hope it will be better year and better better year..
If you would like to help the victims of tsunami....
here are the sites...

https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp (donation through online credit card)

http://www.redcross.org.sg/new_bayofbengal_m.htm (online fund transfer for those who have DBS account, cheque)

Happy New Year... but dun forget about tsunami victims...

[daLady]

Many of us are shocked and saddened by the recent event that has captured headlines all over the world ....but I pray that when the news stop, we will not forget them. Neither should we forget the thousands of children and adults alike all over the world who die of starvation everyday.

May this new year bring a ray of hope and light to all...

[siewjang]

Just received a phone mgs said : Pls don't take seafood 4 now coz of decomposed bodies in Asia sea. If seafood is contaminated, may contain virus n spread epidemic. Pls help spread sms.

[kamkuey]

Just received a phone mgs said : Pls don't take seafood 4 now coz of decomposed bodies in Asia sea. If seafood is contaminated, may contain virus n spread epidemic. Pls help spread sms.
Might be true, might not be true. If it is true, then Ok. If it is not true, you are killing the livelyhood of all the nelayans.

Unless some medical body or agency officially anounce it, I will not take heed. Neither will I pass the message around.

[siewjang]

Even without that message I won't be eating seafood for months. Just imagine the contaminated water. You will fall sick by eating those fish. And it might be those dead fish that they scoop up from the beach.

[siewjang]

....it, I will not take heed. Neither will I pass the message around.
Dummy, did i ask you to pass the message round? just sharing with you guys only... blueh

[kamkuey]

Just received a phone mgs said : Pls don't take seafood 4 now coz of decomposed bodies in Asia sea. If seafood is contaminated, may contain virus n spread epidemic. Pls help spread sms.

:cool:

Anyways.. posting on this forum IS passing it around

[kamkuey]

Anyways, will be contributing supplies to the victims tonight... via fren.

[Roland_Tang]

Might be true, might not be true. If it is true, then Ok. If it is not true, you are killing the livelyhood of all the nelayans.

Unless some medical body or agency officially anounce it, I will not take heed. Neither will I pass the message around.

I remember seeing in the news, from the Health Minister, he said to be cautious on water-borned diseases. After the incident of the tidal wave in recent times, and people perishing, it is wise to check and do research of the validity of this claim.

I would want to find out more before I actually consume seafood.

[piglet]

I remember seeing in the news, from the Health Minister, he said to be cautious on water-borned diseases. After the incident of the tidal wave in recent times, and people perishing, it is wise to check and do research of the validity of this claim.

I would want to find out more before I actually consume seafood.

It's better to be save thn sorry ;)

[piglet]

Just drove pass Shell petrol station.. for every litre of petrol tht we pump, 5cents will be donated to tsunami fund..
Dunno whether Shell in M'sia is doing the same thing..
but this is a great way to contribute to the fund..

[piglet]

I remember seeing in the news, from the Health Minister, he said to be cautious on water-borned diseases. After the incident of the tidal wave in recent times, and people perishing, it is wise to check and do research of the validity of this claim.

I would want to find out more before I actually consume seafood.

Just saw this news @ thestar site..

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2004/12/31/nation/9787235&sec=nation
Six fall sick after eating fish washed ashore

PENANG: Six members of a family in Teluk Bahang who ate ikan siakap (sea bass) that was washed ashore as a result of the tsunami on Sunday, have suffered food poisoning.

The six, aged between six and 40 years old, came down with diarrhoea, vomiting and stomach ache on Tuesday night.

They had received treatment at the Teluk Bahang health clinic.

It is believed that the head of the family, who was not affected, had found the fish along the shore after the tsunami and decided to take them home as they looked fresh.

A health services spokesman in Balik Pulau confirmed the incident.

Thousands of fish were found on the shores of Balik Pulau and the Straits of Penang after the tsunami. – Bernama

[piglet]

I just read this news @ asia1.com.sg where a tsunami victim.. became a raped victim... are this ppl out of their mind??

Sri Lanka gets reports of child rapes after tsunami

COLOMBO (Sri Lanka) - A teenager who escaped death but was left orphaned and homeless by the Asian tsunami met yet one more agony: gang rape, one of several cases of child abuse being investigated in the disaster zone, an official said.

Mr De Silva gave few details of the case of the gang-raped 17-year-old girl, which occurred in the area of Galle on the southern coast but not in a refugee centre. Hours after being washed ashore and left orphaned and homeless, she was raped by six men, he said.

[KoChun]

I guess those rapists were not human. How can a human do that??? Heartless!!!

[piglet]

I guess those rapists were not human. How can a human do that??? Heartless!!!

I guess they not human.. animals.. mayb cannot.. my dog so cute..
ok the are beasts..

[piglet]

I guess those rapists were not human. How can a human do that??? Heartless!!!

I hope they will get their punishment soon.... at the same time hopefully... there will not be any similar incident....

[siewjang]

Just received a phone mgs said : Pls don't take seafood 4 now coz of decomposed bodies in Asia sea. If seafood is contaminated, may contain virus n spread epidemic. Pls help spread sms.
Kamkuey, read this carefully. It's a matter of copy and paste thing. blueh...

[LiLiaN]

I guess those rapists were not human. How can a human do that??? Heartless!!!
oh my god! do these people know how lucky they are to have escaped death? and this is the way they repay? this is an absolute outrage!!!! :mad:

[Roland_Tang]

Inhumane acts will get their punishment. I believe there is justice...

[ah-wong]

People in Europe and UK will observe a 3 minutes silence today

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4146153.stm

[daLady]

I particularly dread reading the stories about mothers who lost their children. The worst is a story about a mother who had to let go of an elder child in order to save herself and a younger sibling...she regretted the decision made at the spur of the moment. She will forever be haunted by the cries of her child as he was swept away...

[LiLiaN]

I particularly dread reading the stories about mothers who lost their children. The worst is a story about a mother who had to let go of an elder child in order to save herself and a younger sibling...she regretted the decision made at the spur of the moment. She will forever be haunted by the cries of her child as he was swept away...
oh yeah, read about that... very heart crushing...

on the other side, some bright spark, like the man who was saved after floating about 100 miles away for 8 days!

what worries me now is stories of illegal child trafficking.... :(

[daLady]

oh yeah, read about that... very heart crushing...

on the other side, some bright spark, like the man who was saved after floating about 100 miles away for 8 days!

what worries me now is stories of illegal child trafficking.... :(
Yeah...I really can't believe that they are people who are actually heartless enough to try benefit from the others' misery... :(

[LiLiaN]

Yeah...I really can't believe that they are people who are actually heartless enough to try benefit from the others' misery... :(
unfortunately, there are plenty of these heartless people...
heard today at coffee break, church donation box for tsunami relief got stolen!
shame on the thief (and ireland is supposed to be very catholic?!!)

[noname]

just curious, it is a sign of end of the day?

[KoChun]

just curious, it is a sign of end of the day?

I guess nobody knows when exactly is end of the day.

[noname]

I guess nobody knows when exactly is end of the day.

yes, u r right but other forum... debate like mad. some claims yes but offence someone and at the end, all argue and fight in net. :mad:

anyway, received a news that all the previous earthquake hit is in asia country. wow... how come only asia???

[jeongyik]

yes, u r right but other forum... debate like mad. some claims yes but offence someone and at the end, all argue and fight in net. :mad:

anyway, received a news that all the previous earthquake hit is in asia country. wow... how come only asia???
There have been quake happening around the world everyday...some are big..some are small. But there are no denying that the movement of tectonic plates for the pass two weeks are very active. Check this site...a real time site
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

[jeongyik]

another things that irks me...while we caring malaysian donates our clothes and other stuff..some take this opportunity to do spring cleaning. I was at one colection center when i happen to see torn bras, soiled panties and some magazines..... :mad: No sense...An insult to the victims' dignity

[noname]

another things that irks me...while we caring malaysian donates our clothes and other stuff..some take this opportunity to do spring cleaning. I was at one colection center when i happen to see torn bras, soiled panties and some magazines..... :mad: No sense...An insult to the victims' dignity

ahsai, this is very normal. if we ask them to donate money, they will refuse and they prefer to donate clothing until the tsunami organisation plea to the public to donate other thing like utensil, food, money and etc... but still ppl donate cloth.

but some ppl claim the cloth are pretty new. u know lah, CNY ... all the previous baju also donate. no wonder the ladies say not enough baju.

[LiLiaN]

I guess nobody knows when exactly is end of the day.
my cousin predicted 2016, so she said she won't have kids until then... :confused:

[Roland_Tang]

my cousin predicted 2016, so she said she won't have kids until then... :confused:

Huh? Don't understand...If 2016, and only then, get kids? But it's that weird? If that's the end, there's no way of getting children, right?

Sorry, a little blur, care to enlighten me?

[LiLiaN]

Huh? Don't understand...If 2016, and only then, get kids? But it's that weird? If that's the end, there's no way of getting children, right?

Sorry, a little blur, care to enlighten me?
meaning, if she lives past it, then only have kids... now just to enjoy life...
(also in case of "hoax" like 2000 being THE year when world comes to an end...)

[daLady]

unfortunately, there are plenty of these heartless people...
heard today at coffee break, church donation box for tsunami relief got stolen!
shame on the thief (and ireland is supposed to be very catholic?!!):eek: Terrible....how could they...they have no conscience these people.....:mad:

[daLady]

meaning, if she lives past it, then only have kids... now just to enjoy life...
(also in case of "hoax" like 2000 being THE year when world comes to an end...)Hmm...don't think anybody can say for sure when the end will come....but why put your life on hold just because some people claim to know...

[daLady]

another things that irks me...while we caring malaysian donates our clothes and other stuff..some take this opportunity to do spring cleaning. I was at one colection center when i happen to see torn bras, soiled panties and some magazines..... :mad: No sense...An insult to the victims' dignityThat's the ugly Malaysians. These are the people who treat such events as a chance to dump their unwanted stuff. :mad:

[LiLiaN]

Hmm...don't think anybody can say for sure when the end will come....but why put your life on hold just because some people claim to know...that's my cousin, not moi...! me, i'll live as i see fit...
want to travel more, get involved in volunteerism, eat more... :D

[KongMing]

-------MESSAGE MOVED TO CHINESE LANGUAGE THREAD

[Dino]

唉！己所不欲 勿施予人啊！

Allo....chinese words please post in chinese thread. Most of people here cannot understand. :confused:

[piglet]

I heard tht 25% of the donation(money) given will go to administration..

[LiLiaN]

I heard tht 25% of the donation(money) given will go to administration..
really?! then again i supposed, the admin people also have to eat, pay bills etc... plus agency themself also has overhead like phone and electricity bills, courier charges etc....

[noname]

just received news from my collegue who volunteer to help out in tsunami thingy...

she said when she sort all the baju, imagine ppl donating bras, panties, underwear... and some in koyak condition... shame on the fellows who donate it...

another thing which i get angry is, some of the fella, donating 3 in 1 instant coffee in a half package thingy... like curi few package and then wrap in rubber band and donate to tsunami victim. same goes to kacang hijau, salt, sugar, mee and etc...

aiyo... some also expired liao... :mad:

[jeongyik]

What sort of mentality is this...anyone?

[LiLiaN]

What sort of mentality is this...anyone?
someone not very sincere, but could be someone who doesn't have a lot, but trying to contribute whatever they could.. we'd never know for sure...

[noname]

someone not very sincere, but could be someone who doesn't have a lot, but trying to contribute whatever they could.. we'd never know for sure...

i dun think so. some ppl will tend to take this oppurtunity to do some cleaning on the house by giving out some old cloth, utensil and etc...

[LiLiaN]

i dun think so. some ppl will tend to take this oppurtunity to do some cleaning on the house by giving out some old cloth, utensil and etc...
we don't need to be so sceptical... old clothes, utensil etc... maybe insincere people...
but food not in full packets (not expired ones!!)... may be someone who just wants to help...

[Roland_Tang]

Well, sometimes it's not for us to say how people wanna give and how much, or what they intend to give. We only see so much and pass judgment, I wonder, how many of us know the actual state or conditon of those giving? We don't.

For people who gave their best, we commend them on their big hearts. On those who gave because they have too much, well, they still mean well. For those who meant evil, we can only so much pray that they'd learn, and those on the receiving end will not be harmed in anyway.

[daLady]

we don't need to be so sceptical... old clothes, utensil etc... maybe insincere people...
but food not in full packets (not expired ones!!)... may be someone who just wants to help...True also...I guess we should give these people the benefit of doubt. It will do us no harm to think the best of people...:)

[LiLiaN]

True also...I guess we should give these people the benefit of doubt. It will do us no harm to think the best of people...:)
it's always easy to think the worse of others i supposed...
but think, if everyone has negative attitude to "partial" donations..
the genuine people will eventually stop contributing...
however, with the positive attitude, they will continue to help..
and maybe we can then shame insincere people into giving decently...

[noname]

it's always easy to think the worse of others i supposed...
but think, if everyone has negative attitude to "partial" donations..
the genuine people will eventually stop contributing...
however, with the positive attitude, they will continue to help..
and maybe we can then shame insincere people into giving decently...

agreed with you. i just cannot tahan the person who take this oppurtunity to clean out some item in the house and simply donate...

if with heart, then appreciate it. if not, ask them go fly kite. :mad:

if they keep on doing it like this, the volunteer may find it difficulty to sort all the things out. hmmm...

[daLady]

agreed with you. i just cannot tahan the person who take this oppurtunity to clean out some item in the house and simply donate...

if with heart, then appreciate it. if not, ask them go fly kite. :mad:

if they keep on doing it like this, the volunteer may find it difficulty to sort all the things out. hmmm...I know wht you mean...giving expired goods is a definite no no...

[noname]

I know wht you mean...giving expired goods is a definite no no...

:p thanks!

[jeongyik]

If they meant well...they should see and check their items before they give them way. I was particularly touched by a man kindness whom donated RM100 despite being poor. Full story can read yesterday The Star paper MEtro section.

[LiLiaN]

If they meant well...they should see and check their items before they give them way. I was particularly touched by a man kindness whom donated RM100 despite being poor. Full story can read yesterday The Star paper MEtro section.
not sure if they have something like this in malaysia... but here i have bank set up for standing order so every month, something comes out from my bank ($$) to go to charity... should be continuous support kind of thing as there's always someone less fortunate who need our help...

[Linkinfark]

http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/

[Roland_Tang]

I was particularly touched by a man kindness whom donated RM100 despite being poor. Full story can read yesterday The Star paper MEtro section.

Yup, true to a certain extent. But I think when doing good, one does not need to make a public display.

[noname]

Yup, true to a certain extent. But I think when doing good, one does not need to make a public display.
agreed with roland statement. if those want to donate and get publicity (on purpose), then it is not sincere... especially company... must print out one big cheque stated one million donate to tsunami victim... cheh.. :(

[jeongyik]

Yup, true to a certain extent. But I think when doing good, one does not need to make a public display.
True...but this was written by the paper themself....they must be touched also. Better that some corporate figure...posing for pictures with big shots

[jeongyik]

not sure if they have something like this in malaysia... but here i have bank set up for standing order so every month, something comes out from my bank ($$) to go to charity... should be continuous support kind of thing as there's always someone less fortunate who need our help...
I dun think so....But I know one particular bank has the facility for deducting your pay to be credited into one parents account....so much so for the caring society right....hahahaha.

[noname]

yalah... all the big pictures snap and publish in the newspaper... all becoz of showoff and politician lah... :(

anyway, the bank shouldnt do like that if they didnt get permission from the owner... kinda breach of trust man...

[LiLiaN]

yalah... all the big pictures snap and publish in the newspaper... all becoz of showoff and politician lah... :(
but think of the good thing that came out from these showoffs - their money...
if not for advertising, i don't even know if we can get a single penny out of them...
better to let them have 2 minutes fame, than thousands of people going destitute...

[Roland_Tang]

but think of the good thing that came out from these showoffs - their money...
if not for advertising, i don't even know if we can get a single penny out of them...
better to let them have 2 minutes fame, than thousands of people going destitute...

I suppose I have to agree with you.

What we have been discussing about is the best case of doing good.

[LiLiaN]

I suppose I have to agree with you.

What we have been discussing about is the best case of doing good.
but it's never easy to achieve the ideal...
if the world is ideal, nobody will be poor...
in fact, top 500 richest in the world, if pool money and distribute...
everyone in this world will get the chance to be millionaire...

[Roland_Tang]

but it's never easy to achieve the ideal...
if the world is ideal, nobody will be poor...
in fact, top 500 richest in the world, if pool money and distribute...
everyone in this world will get the chance to be millionaire...

You are absolutely correct. I did think if the world has this and share equally (which is quite impossible), no one would have to be poor again.

[siewjang]

Do wild animals have a sixth sense?
Wildlife officials in Sri Lanka have reported that, despite the loss of human life in the Asian disaster, there have been no recorded animal deaths.

Waves from the worst tsunami in memory sent floodwater surging up to 3.5km (two miles) inland to the island's biggest wildlife reserve.

Many tourists drowned but, to the surprise of officials, no dead animals have been found.

It has highlighted claims that animals may possess a sixth sense about danger.

Yala National Park in Sri Lanka is home to elephants, deer, jackals and crocodiles.

Sensitive to change Praised for its conservation, the park is also considered one of the best places in the world to observe leopards.

It is now closed after floods damaged buildings and caused the deaths of tourists and employees of the park and lodge.

Yet, surprisingly, none of the park's varied wildlife is reported to have perished. "They've got extremely good hearing and they will probably have heard this flood coming in the distance.

"There would have been vibration and there may also have been changes in the air pressure which will have alerted animals and made them move to wherever they felt safer."

There are many eyewitness accounts of birds and animals migrating before earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

The scientific evidence for a sixth sense is lacking, but if the reports are confirmed, they could add to the understanding of animal behaviour and possibly even be used in the future as an early warning system for humans.

[jeongyik]

The scientific evidence for a sixth sense is lacking, but if the reports are confirmed, they could add to the understanding of animal behaviour and possibly even be used in the future as an early warning system for humans.

I have one conclusion abt sixth sense...and I believe everyone has this sense...but some how some where they didn't know how to use it. I call it the COMMON SENSE.
You see, if this tsunami will to be happened in Japan...do you think we have the same death toll?

[Roland_Tang]

I have one conclusion abt sixth sense...and I believe everyone has this sense...but some how some where they didn't know how to use it. I call it the COMMON SENSE.
You see, if this tsunami will to be happened in Japan...do you think we have the same death toll?

I don't know. Can you tell me?

You think Japan's better prepared than us? Perhaps, but with a quake with 9 on the Richter scale, perhaps Japan might not be able to contain it well.

[athena]

I don't know. Can you tell me?

You think Japan's better prepared than us? Perhaps, but with a quake with 9 on the Richter scale, perhaps Japan might not be able to contain it well.
i don't think anyone can be better prepared or less prepared. But i think the way that the aids that are going to the countries that are affected by the tsunami , that must be handled carefully. I am sure that many, when they are donating, will think " how much of my money is gonna reach the victims?"

[jeongyik]

I don't know. Can you tell me?

You think Japan's better prepared than us? Perhaps, but with a quake with 9 on the Richter scale, perhaps Japan might not be able to contain it well.
I'm not saying that you can prevent the quake. What I am trying to say, you can run away from it. Ask any Japanese...or Hawaiian, if you see the sea suddenly subside...what will they do? Sit and watch or run for their live. That's my point. Nobody can claim they are better prepared against mother nature.

[Roland_Tang]

I'm not saying that you can prevent the quake. What I am trying to say, you can run away from it. Ask any Japanese...or Hawaiian, if you see the sea suddenly subside...what will they do? Sit and watch or run for their live. That's my point. Nobody can claim they are better prepared against mother nature.

Thanks, appreciate you sharing your view.

Anyway, I read the papers about the stench of death in Banda Aceh, and it really is sickening. Think of all those who perished.

Make the best of your time, you'll never know what will happen next.

[jeongyik]

Thanks, appreciate you sharing your view.

Anyway, I read the papers about the stench of death in Banda Aceh, and it really is sickening. Think of all those who perished.

Make the best of your time, you'll never know what will happen next.
Yup.....anyway..you are kian yong bro izzit. Get him to be more active here.

[Roland_Tang]

Yup.....anyway..you are kian yong bro izzit. Get him to be more active here.

Yup, I am his bro. I will, but he doesn't quite know how to use this. Will let him know.

How are you doing? And your sis, remember seeing her in Ipoh, how is she?

PM me your answer. Thanks, don't wanna disrupt the discussion here.