Foochow should give back to society

[buff]

http://www.nst.com.my/Sunday/National/20070318074430/Article/index_html

any takers?

[JC]

I'm not from Sarawak... :p

[Dino]

I'm not from Sarawak... :p

Yah......not from Sarawak.:p

[alfred98]

I'm not foochow!!!:D

[Dino]

I'm not foochow!!!:D

Eh...Ku Tien is foo chow or not ah? :o

[alfred98]

Eh...Ku Tien is foo chow or not ah? :o

Think so!!!:)

[Anson F-Clef]

OK FOLKS, READ THIS PROPERLY:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzhou_dialect

This should answer Dino punya query :D

[Jim.Loi]

OK FOLKS, READ THIS PROPERLY:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzhou_dialect

This should answer Dino punya query :D

After reading that...I felt very proud and honored to be a Foochow...thanks for the link.....

[Anson F-Clef]

After reading that...I felt very proud and honored to be a Foochow...thanks for the link.....

Loctor Jim!!! Even if I am half-Foochow, I am still proud of my heritage, bro!
Here's what we have from Wikipedia and the "Foochows Of Sitiawan" book by Shih Toong Siong (starry58's classmate}

11 types/divisions of the Foochow area in Mainland China:

Foochow (Capital City type)
Kutien (Ayer Tawar and Simpang Tiga's typical lingua franca)
Hockchiang (Kg. China a.k.a. Ngu Neh Meh Niah!)
MingChiang (the majority Foochow stock of Sarawak, but there are some in Sitiawan)
DiongLok (one of my ex-colleagues is from that stock)
MingAeu (Min Hou in Mandarin)
PingTan
LoNguong
LiengGong
IngTai (Yong Tai in Mandarin)
BingNang

[Oddfather]

Is ACS part of our community?? Charity begins at home. :D

[james 89]

2 years ago we discovered our ancestor tombs back in foochow, china. it was dated somewhere around 400 years back.

[shiruikage]

2 years ago we discovered our ancestor tombs back in foochow, china. it was dated somewhere around 400 years back. was told that it belongs to dynasty's soldier or what.....

whoa....lucky u man. i donno whether my ancestors tomb being found oredi or not. must ask my father liou. but i think we've found our extended family members still in china.

[Dino]

Not sure if this is true or not but i heard that if you find the long lost relatives in China....they may ask/expect you to give them money. :unsure:

[alfred98]

Not sure if this is true or not but i heard that if you find the long lost relatives in China....they may ask/expect you to give them money. :unsure:

Maybe now they will give U money instead!!!!!:laugh: :laugh:

[Dino]

Maybe now they will give U money instead!!!!!:laugh: :laugh:

Then i need to go find mine!!! :p

[alfred98]

Then i need to go find mine!!! :p

My problem......I don't know where to find then!!!!:(

[Dino]

My problem......I don't know where to find then!!!!:(

Start with your father or mother or even uncle and aunty.

[alfred98]

Start with your father or mother or even uncle and aunty.

My dad ah!!! He will tell me in Mandarin.....I don't know mah.....so ask him to tell in english....he don't know leh....further more he will say...I don't know how to speak in Hing hwa....for what I go back there!!!:squeeze:

[Dino]

My dad ah!!! He will tell me in Mandarin.....I don't know mah.....so ask him to tell in english....he don't know leh....further more he will say...I don't know how to speak in Hing hwa....for what I go back there!!!:squeeze:

Aiseh....you kenot understand...get someone who can understand both laaa....should be easy to find wut right....:unsure:
Or just bring your dad along to find loor....

[alfred98]

Aiseh....you kenot understand...get someone who can understand both laaa....should be easy to find wut right....:unsure:
Or just bring your dad along to find loor....

Trying leh.....he refused whor.....:(

[Dino]

Trying leh.....he refused whor.....:(

Oooooh....maybe he got juicy super duper secret about the family leh!!! :eek: :amused:

[alfred98]

Oooooh....maybe he got juicy super duper secret about the family leh!!! :eek: :amused:

I still got a auntie staying in China....that one also I don't know where....:D

[Chris C]

Then i need to go find mine!!! :p

...and how r u going to communicate with them? :rolleyes: :p

[Dino]

...and how r u going to communicate with them? :rolleyes: :p

Ku Tien loor....i can speak it pretty well you know....:cool: :p

[buff]

Ku Tien loor....i can speak it pretty well you know....:cool: :p

sure or not? :rolleyes:

how do you say 'roti' in ku tien?

[Dino]

sure or not? :rolleyes:

how do you say 'roti' in ku tien?

Dun tell me its Moor-moor....:p :squeeze:

[athena]

Dun tell me its Moor-moor....:p :squeeze:
no meh? i tot it is!!!! :blink:

[Dino]

no meh? i tot it is!!!! :blink:

Not sure....but i think it is also.

[Oddfather]

Dun tell me its Moor-moor....:p :squeeze:

you calling Anson ar?? :eek:

[Dino]

you calling Anson ar?? :eek:

Jahat!! Memang Jahat!!! :laugh:

[Oddfather]

Jahat!! Memang Jahat!!! :laugh:

:eek: :eek: :laugh:

[Anson F-Clef]

you calling Anson ar?? :eek:

You getting blind izit??

[Oddfather]

You getting blind izit??

dare not see when you raba raba dino a$$......:squeeze:

[buff]

Dun tell me its Moor-moor....:p :squeeze:

better don't go china then... otherwise you'll really get a lot of raba-raba..

imagine: i'm very hungry, can i have moor-moor with kaya .... :sick:

[Dino]

better don't go china then... otherwise you'll really get a lot of raba-raba..

imagine: i'm very hungry, can i have moor-moor with kaya .... :sick:

Is moor-moor right answer or not? I like the peanut wan....

[Chris C]

Is moor-moor right answer or not? I like the peanut wan....

Oooi, i thot moor moor and the roti(bread), 2 diff thing? :huh:

[Dino]

Oooi, i thot moor moor and the roti(bread), 2 diff thing? :huh:

Yah....but what does hock chew call roti then?

[Chris C]

Yah....but what does hock chew call roti then?

Loti lor.....:laugh: .....ours back here all mixed up liao. That's why don't
expect those in mainland china to speak the same lingo as u.

[buff]

Yah....but what does hock chew call roti then?

"mien pau"... like mandarin... :noworry:

i know, coz i spoke to a hockchew from china and he didn't have a clue what i was going on about..!!

and i don't know what 'moor moor' is called in china (not sure if they even have it?!)

[Dino]

You are correct.....

[alfred98]

"mien pau"... like mandarin... :noworry:

i know, coz i spoke to a hockchew from china and he didn't have a clue what i was going on about..!!

and i don't know what 'moor moor' is called in china (not sure if they even have it?!)

We here onli invented loti lah.....moor moor spoken in foochow district leh.....:D

[Anson F-Clef]

We here onli invented loti lah.....moor moor spoken in foochow district leh.....:D

Hahaha - moor moor ah, that's the tau sar or peanuts rolled in bread leh! THIS LOTI I CANNOT FORGET WAN ~ Sitiawan culture.......but then, when I went to Dongguan in Guangdong Province late 2005, their moor moor got pig skin and pig oil leh! Meh tahan! :eek:

[alfred98]

That one probably they called it Mc Moor Moor!!!

[athena]

so moor moor is not Loti lah?
it's mien pao?

[Anson F-Clef]

so moor moor is not Loti lah?
it's mien pao?

Ath, it's still colloquially Moor Moor :D

[athena]

Ath, it's still colloquially Moor Moor :D
meaning only in sitiawan?? not in sibu & yongpeng?

[Anson F-Clef]

meaning only in sitiawan?? not in sibu & yongpeng?

Yong Peng - maybe (since it historically has connotations with Sitiawan Foochows :D) while Sibu ah, NEVER saw ANY trace of the Moor Moor AT ALL leh! (What I only saw thru my personal experience in Sibu was the red wine mee sua and the Mini McDonalds Gong Biang and the rest are all Sarawakian ethnic galore like Bario Rice, Laksa Sarawak, etc.....)

[lychee]

I was unable to find an appropriate thread for this interesting article about some "HockChew Noing" stuff which I had unexpectedly came across whilst surfing the net, hence I decided to post it here to share with everyone. Happy reading folks.


Foochows and Hakkas -this is another reason why I feel KK has great potential to develop at a rapid pace. It is a town dominated by the Hakkas and now the Foochows have moved in from Sibu and Miri to give the Hakkas tough competition- and we all know that its strong competition that brings out the best in people.
The Hakkas came here first- I have always found that the smartest and hardest working kids in class were the Hakkas- they grow up to be hard working and smart adults. In fact I think amongst the Chinese dialects they are naturally smarter than all others. They have an intellect that is natural and they are pragmatic people- all those generations of being “stateless” have inculcated a strong survival instinct in the Hakkas. But Hakkas are the most difficult people to manage amongst the Chinese- they have a natural rebellious streak and will challenge authority without the slightest hesitation. The term “Born to be wild” seems to come to mind when thinking about Hakkas! Their brilliance makes them look down on others who are of lesser intellect. If you have to manage a typically clever Hakka and if he feels that you have nothing to teach him, beware! He will be climbing over your head before you can even blink! Hakkas respect brains and little else. But if you can command their respect and you have a battalion of Hakkas, you can take over the world! They are intuitive planners and strategists par excellence. Clever people, these Hakkas!
Now the Foochows are also unique. They are characterized by an incredible propensity to take risks- they seem to love risk taking the way a duck takes to water. Coupled by an inborn willingness to work hard, they become formidable business personalities. Examples of Foochow business personalities include Robert Kuok, Tiong Hiew King of Rimbunan Hijau, Liem Siow Liong of Indonesia, Ting Phek Khiing, the late Loy of MBF, the KTS Group and many other low key but powerful families from Sibu, Miri and Sitiawan. Yong Peng in Johor used to be a Foochow stronghold but most have since left for greener pastures. They network naturally, this being a result of being in the minority (the Foochows probably constitute no more than 1-2% of the Chinese population but their control and influence extend beyond their proportion. Think of the fact that the vice trade and the underworld in USA is largely controlled by these guys! In fact, the illegal smuggling of humans(snakeheads) is a trade dominated by them).
Their natural extreme aggression makes them formidable enemies and opponents- in competition, they can become senselessly aggressive, preferring to die than to lose. They are naturally entrepreneurial as a result of their aggressiveness, competitive spirit and risk taking propensity.
2 things characterize both the Foochows and the Hakkas- one is the emphasis on providing the best possible education for their children, no matter how poor the family may be- relatives will pool together much needed funds to send a child to university. The other thing which is common amongst all Chinese but even more evident in the Hakkas and Foochows is what is commonly known as the willingness to defer one’s gratification. In other words, even though one can afford and desires say a particular luxury like a car, one who is willing to defer this gratification to a later date and use the money for reinvestment, will generally do much better than one who indulges in instant or immediate gratification. This is a fact proven by empirical studies and psychologists.
Again like the Hakkas, the Foochows originate from and thrive in tough environments. Sibu was carved out of swamp land, by hand, square foot by square foot! They also have strong political inclinations- a fact not well publicized is that the Communist movement in Malaya was very much spearheaded by the Foochows and Hakkas.
So when you put these 2 formidable communities together, what you will get is incredible energy and a willingness to risk for the longer term, a willingness to invest and build for a better future. The fact that the commercial scene is dominated by these 2 groups speaks well for Kota Kinabalu. Now what KK needs is an improvement in the culinary scene because both Foochow and Hakka food are considered provincial and relatively crude; more functional than refined- bring in the Cantonese and the Teochews and KK will be a wonderful place to live in!

[alfred98]

Sweet Lychee....U currently in KK ah????:laugh:

[lychee]

No lah. Kaliu-Kaliu....:D

[alfred98]

No lah. Kaliu-Kaliu....:D

Formidable foochow....but lost to Indian lioa.....