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athena
03-02-2007, 10:06 AM
I want to know how many of us here are vegetarian and how many of us can't live without out meat...hehehe

alfred98
03-02-2007, 10:30 AM
We human are not herbivorous.....so give me some meat!!!!:D

athena
03-02-2007, 10:31 AM
haha..so far ACSians all carnivarous!! :laugh:

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 10:31 AM
For me no need to ask-lah.... muahahahahaha if I got gun I'll probably be like Anson's dad and hunt wildboar as well.
Vege ok-lah if not how to have proper bowel movement? Eat coz have to eat-lah but I'll take fruits more than vege.

athena
03-02-2007, 10:42 AM
oh course must hv balanced meals mah...

but then again, how long can you go without meat? hehe

bizzi
03-02-2007, 10:45 AM
if we didn't eat the animals on the planet, they would overbreed and eat up all the greens, and then the vegetarians would have nothing left to eat...

i say i'm doing the vegetarians a favour..

I EAT COW!!

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 10:48 AM
oh course must hv balanced meals mah...

but then again, how long can you go without meat? hehe

Hmmm..... good question, 1 day without meat also feel one kind already-lah, like a drug addict without his daily shot I think. Just a bit will do everyday, no need a chunk of meat every meal-lah.
btw, I don't consider fish or seafood a kind of meat ok.
I imagine myself sitting down to a breakfast of eggs, french toast, maple syrup, corn and coffee. I'll feel like something is missing, bacon fits in missing link perfectly. Sausage also can-lah. yum yum. I just made myself hungry again. :squeeze:

shiruikage
03-02-2007, 10:50 AM
eating meat is our right!
eating vegetable is when eating meat is not available.
we don hear of our ancestors fighting giant lettuces to bring home the...vege? wat kind of story that would be? wat kind of cave art would tht be? i say NAYYYYYYY~!
mammoth slaying and bison hunting is in! give me meat or give me death!!! (this sounds familiar.....:o )muahahhahahah!!!!!!!!

athena
03-02-2007, 10:52 AM
haha...i lurve all your responses

how many of you hv colleagues, friends or relatives who are vegans?

Dino
03-02-2007, 10:52 AM
We humans did not climb up the food chain that high so that we can only eat baby carrots and baby bak choy.

athena
03-02-2007, 10:54 AM
i read somewhere, I think was my IEEE (institue of Electronics Engineers) magazine, Spectrum, stating that the world cannot afford so many meat-eaters. coz the amount of energy need to sustain the breeding of animals. so we are actually steering into meat-less world?

shiruikage
03-02-2007, 10:55 AM
none! muahahhah!
so over rated they all. but got one vegetarian lar. but he's a devout Buddhist, always making one charity or another, so, understandably a vegetarian. but a vegan he is not.

after watching phua chu kang with that vegan wife of phua chu beng, i see vegan oso wanna throw up.:sick:

no offence.:h:

Dino
03-02-2007, 10:55 AM
i read somewhere, I think was my IEEE (institue of Electronics Engineers) magazine, Spectrum, stating that the world cannot afford so many meat-eaters. coz the amount of energy need to sustain the breeding of animals. so we are actually steering into meat-less world?

I can always eat sea-food. :p

shiruikage
03-02-2007, 10:56 AM
i read somewhere, I think was my IEEE (institue of Electronics Engineers) magazine, Spectrum, stating that the world cannot afford so many meat-eaters. coz the amount of energy need to sustain the breeding of animals. so we are actually steering into meat-less world?

they need more energy to produce some steaks yes. but then again, eating meat is actually the cradle of our civilization...no?

athena
03-02-2007, 10:58 AM
I can always eat sea-food. :p
seafood also part of meat le...

plus over-fishing is another problem our generation is facing!

Dino
03-02-2007, 11:03 AM
seafood also part of meat le...

plus over-fishing is another problem our generation is facing!

True....but since i no kids....i eat my share laaa.....:p

athena
03-02-2007, 11:05 AM
found this article...hahaha....americans gets the blame for just about anything


American Meat Eaters Cause Third World Hunger?
Question: How does America's meat consumption impact our ability to feed an increasing world population?

1. Americans eat a lot of meat because it's cheap compared to our incomes.

2. Meat is cheap in America because the corn used to feed most cattle is cheap. This is a direct result of American farmers having access to inexpensive and highly efficient technologies like artificial fertilizers, hybrid seeds, harvest machinery, inexpensive fuel, effective and (when used properly) safe insecticides, and good infrastructure (roads, transportation, warehouses, etc.).

3. If Americans decided to eat less meat, American farmers would grow less livestock feed (corn). They might grow some other grain for human consumption, but we already export tons of grain. Countries that can't produce enough food for themselves can't afford to buy our current excess grain production, so they wouldn't be helped by a farmer switching from livestock feed to something humans could eat.

4. The U.S. government already buys tons of grain every year and gives it away. However, such aid does not help a country to develop their own agriculture. In fact, it may very well be harming countries when we giving them long-term food aide (which is very different from immediate assistance in response to dire food emergencies). When a country is flooded with free food for an extended period of time, it undermines the local agricultural economy.

5. American consumption of beef is just Americans eating excess (cheap) corn in another form. Not eating meat in America will just remove the economic incentive for American farmers to grow that crop, so they'll switch to something else. Regardless, it will do nothing to help the malnourished of the world.

6. Meat consumption always increases in countries as they grow economically. People like meat. And we know that it is harmful for young children to live on a vegan diet, so increasing meat consumption -- from a third-world level -- should correlate with increased health. And that appears to be the case: more wealthy countries, which eat more meat than poorer countries, have much longer life spans.

7. In third-world countries, domestic livestock is not normally fed grain that could feed humans. This is for a very good reason: it is too expensive. Most livestock in developing countries eat plant fibre humans cannot consume, like grass and woody plants. In fact, worldwide, goats provide more meat for human consumption than any other type of livestock.

8. Livestock perform important functions in third-world agriculture: they produce the highest quality protein from marginal land -- that is, land that is not suitable for growing human consumable crops -- and they provide valuable fertilizers for crops.

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 11:07 AM
seafood also part of meat le...

plus over-fishing is another problem our generation is facing!

Agree on the overfishing part, now the fishermen even take all those baby fishes, tarak bagi chance for them to grow up. Now they'll using nets with smaller mesh size cos they small fish that kenot be sold will be ground up into fish feed for all those fish farms. They kill off all the babies then later complain there no fish to catch. Ayoyo how-lah.

I have a kolik that's a vegetarian, actually dem mah fan-lah everytime we want to eat out together, have to go somewhere vegetarian.

Oddfather
03-02-2007, 11:17 AM
Meat......who mentioned MEAT?? Cow, pig, Chicken, lamb, goat, monkey.....bring them to me.....yummy...yummy. That used to be me. All meats i hantam.

But now, I tend to go more for vegie......take meat for my protein intake.

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 11:22 AM
Meat......who mentioned MEAT?? Cow, pig, Chicken, lamb, goat, monkey.....bring them to me.....yummy...yummy. That used to be me. All meats i hantam.

But now, I tend to go more for vegie......take meat for my protein intake.

You joking or you really hantam monkey meat b4? :amazed:

Oddfather
03-02-2007, 11:28 AM
You joking or you really hantam monkey meat b4? :amazed:

dem good man......monkey brain in ang sui.......and deep fried monkey meat.....and monkey curry....yummy....

athena
03-02-2007, 11:31 AM
dem good man......monkey brain in ang sui.......and deep fried monkey meat.....and monkey curry....yummy....
where ya ate them?

Oddfather
03-02-2007, 11:34 AM
where ya ate them?

my grandfater used to hunt them around Swan.....donkey years back....once even saw them skinning one alive......dem gross.......after that I stopped eating them. That must be in 1970s.

Dino
03-02-2007, 11:36 AM
my grandfater used to hunt them around Swan.....donkey years back....once even saw them skinning one alive......dem gross.......after that I stopped eating them. That must be in 1970s.

Hhahaha....saw my dad skinning one also.......pretty gruesome coz it looked like you are skinning a human being. But i never tasted it.
I've thought about turning vegetarian when i see how cruel it is to kill animals but i don't think i can make it eating just vege. :squeeze:

athena
03-02-2007, 11:37 AM
we sud get more s'wan folks to go to Penang Botanicals Garden!!!:laugh:

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 11:37 AM
dem good man......monkey brain in ang sui.......and deep fried monkey meat.....and monkey curry....yummy....

I see monkey look like a small human also I no stomach to eat already-lah. I imagine killing one is like killing a small child onli-lah. Geli-man, so don't even dare to think about eating-lah. :squeeze:

Eating other meats like babi, lembu, kambing, rusa and other general types of herbivours are ok for me-lah but not the 'exotic' kinds-lah.

alfred98
03-02-2007, 11:39 AM
Hhahaha....saw my dad skinning one also.......pretty gruesome coz it looked like you are skinning a human being. But i never tasted it.
I've thought about turning vegetarian when i see how cruel it is to kill animals but i don't think i can make it eating just vege. :squeeze:

:squeeze: :squeeze: vege!!! Me no pork will die lah......Once I was in Kota Bharu there eating pork like luxury like that.....cannot take it....drive 15km every meal just to eat pork........:D

Oddfather
03-02-2007, 11:44 AM
Anyway....those were the days....still young mah.....dunno anything....a seefood person......food on the table means hantam......

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 11:46 AM
we sud get more s'wan folks to go to Penang Botanicals Garden!!!:laugh:

Not been there since Form 3, the monkeys there like gangsters onli right?

bizzi
03-02-2007, 12:10 PM
haha...i lurve all your responses

how many of you hv colleagues, friends or relatives who are vegans?

my friend michelle is a non-meat eater.. she used to be rather obese.. yes.. obese.. then she switched her diet to non-meat.. she's not a vegan.. she takes eggs and diary products and don't mind soups and sauces that has meat cooked in them.. she just doesnt eat the meat.

and here's what she looks like 3-4 years later..

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/407427279_037c5bf09f.jpg

bizzi
03-02-2007, 12:12 PM
BUT....

this is probably an after effect from eating no meat!!! :eek: :p :laugh:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/407383623_e208c5f576.jpg

SS2006
03-02-2007, 12:14 PM
One question to all you meat eaters. If a few continuous meals consisting of meat and carbo only, but without any vege or fruit...is it ok? Dun you feel queasy?

Odysseus
03-02-2007, 12:26 PM
Hhahaha....saw my dad skinning one also.......pretty gruesome coz it looked like you are skinning a human being. But i never tasted it.
I've thought about turning vegetarian when i see how cruel it is to kill animals but i don't think i can make it eating just vege. :squeeze:
I tried once. Had to cut the meat out from the body. It was a barbequed one with everything intact except the head. It was like a baby.

Chris C
03-02-2007, 01:17 PM
Me ok if tarak eat meat for a few days......love them but nowdays limit my intake....:)

athena
03-02-2007, 01:42 PM
i like my greens....just that taking vegetarian diet ain't for me...last time, had a bunch of coursemates always going for vegetarian chap fan....i just cannot do that EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Chris C
03-02-2007, 01:50 PM
i like my greens....just that taking vegetarian diet ain't for me...last time, had a bunch of coursemates always going for vegetarian chap fan....i just cannot do that EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Yup greens r ok......too much of those flour flavoured vegetarian food r actually worst than taking meat.

athena
03-02-2007, 01:59 PM
precisely .....:)

Fishingman
03-02-2007, 03:25 PM
From the results, clearly seen that guys loves meat more.

daBoss
03-02-2007, 07:10 PM
i don't take vege at all! i'm a meatatarian. ;)

justin hong
03-02-2007, 09:17 PM
Everytime someone ask me what food I don't take, I'll say vegetarian. Once I was the best man for a friend's wedding and the dinner was strictly vegetarian. I was sitting on the main table next to 2 "Nee Ku" and Boy! did I suffer. Had to make excuses to go out and smoke just to avoid those "Nee Kus" from asking me to "Chiak,Chiak,Chiak......mai Pai seh". And after dinner head straight to Indian restaurant for a full nasi kandar meal.

Dino
03-02-2007, 10:24 PM
i don't take vege at all! i'm a meatatarian. ;)

I dunno how you survive it man......without fiber.....sitting on the throne is pretty tough.

Alkapocino
03-04-2007, 12:25 AM
I dunno how you survive it man......without fiber.....sitting on the throne is pretty tough.

He drinks chlorophyll. :)

Anson F-Clef
03-04-2007, 11:21 PM
i don't take vege at all! i'm a meatatarian. ;)

Ahh, knew this fact about you since F4 lerr!!

laineyee
03-05-2007, 09:41 AM
was thinking about going vegetarian at one stage but i like KFC and bacon too much...

Fishingman
03-05-2007, 10:23 AM
was thinking about going vegetarian at one stage but i like KFC and bacon too much...

Not boring-meh? Now I eat 2 pieces of KFC also jelak already. Never call dinner plate anymore.

laineyee
03-05-2007, 10:30 AM
Aiyah, i don't eat KFC all the time, probably once in 3-4 months. but the thought of not eating EVER, don't think i can.

at the moment, i don't normally eat meat, mostly veg unless eating out where Veg dishes cost the same if not more than the meat, so order meat dishes better value.

Fishingman
03-05-2007, 10:42 AM
Aiyah, i don't eat KFC all the time, probably once in 3-4 months. but the thought of not eating EVER, don't think i can.

at the moment, i don't normally eat meat, mostly veg unless eating out where Veg dishes cost the same if not more than the meat, so order meat dishes better value.

OIC.... i tot you eat KFC every other day or something like that. :laugh:

For all those meat eaters out there, can you survive 1 week without meat?
I doubt I can!:squeeze:

shiruikage
03-05-2007, 12:56 PM
kfc...last year almost everyday for 4 weeks!
macdonald...this year alone, everyday for the past 4 weeks.

man...no wonder im getting fat. eating all these food.

Fishingman
03-05-2007, 01:12 PM
kfc...last year almost everyday for 4 weeks!
macdonald...this year alone, everyday for the past 4 weeks.

man...no wonder im getting fat. eating all these food.

You trying to copy the Supersize me documentary ah?:amazed:

bizzi
03-05-2007, 01:29 PM
in brisbane, i used to live only 30 metres from a KFC for about a year.. everyday i could smell the used oil ladened with chicken fat..

after that i stopped eating KFC for about 3 years.. even today i can't bring myself to enter a KFC store..

oh ya.. that goes for Pizza Hut too... i used to work in one.. i'll NEVER eat Pizza Hut's pizza again..

laineyee
03-05-2007, 01:44 PM
i used to work at McDonalds and still occasionally eat McDonalds :o.

Fishingman
03-05-2007, 02:34 PM
in brisbane, i used to live only 30 metres from a KFC for about a year.. everyday i could smell the used oil ladened with chicken fat..

after that i stopped eating KFC for about 3 years.. even today i can't bring myself to enter a KFC store..

oh ya.. that goes for Pizza Hut too... i used to work in one.. i'll NEVER eat Pizza Hut's pizza again..

Please tell more.... must be some strong reason I'll bet.

bizzi
03-05-2007, 02:39 PM
i used to work at McDonalds and still occasionally eat McDonalds :o.

Please tell more.... must be some strong reason I'll bet.

McDonald's has a somewhat open kitchen, you can see what they are doing inside.. this forces them to be hygienic..

Have you seen the food preparation section of a Pizza Hut? You don't want to..

Fishingman
03-05-2007, 02:52 PM
McDonald's has a somewhat open kitchen, you can see what they are doing inside.. this forces them to be hygienic..

Have you seen the food preparation section of a Pizza Hut? You don't want to..

No-wor... never seen b4. Is it that bad? Don't they have guidelines to follow?

bizzi
03-05-2007, 03:15 PM
No-wor... never seen b4. Is it that bad? Don't they have guidelines to follow?

as long as you can't see the kitchen, you never know what the food preparations wld be like.. in any kitchen..

i wouldn't say it's done in every pizza hut, but it was done in the outlet i worked at.. sometimes when the chopped up ingredients fall on the floor, they pick it up and put it back into the rest of it..

and the baking pans has a layer of charred carbon on it, that it refuses to come off even after repeated washing in hot water and industrial strength washing liquid..

Oddfather
03-05-2007, 03:20 PM
We also can't see the kitchens in hotels, fine dining restaurant, etc etc. Does that mean what you juz mentioned also happens there??

bizzi
03-05-2007, 03:34 PM
We also can't see the kitchens in hotels, fine dining restaurant, etc etc. Does that mean what you juz mentioned also happens there??

sigh.. shall i repeat myself?

"as long as you can't see the kitchen, you never know what the food preparations wld be like.. in any kitchen.

i wouldn't say it's done in every pizza hut, but it was done in the outlet i worked at.. sometimes when the chopped up ingredients fall on the floor, they pick it up and put it back into the rest of it.."

i donno why some people can't seem to read posts properly..

alfred98
03-05-2007, 03:38 PM
Best food still be my wife cook one!!! Sure she don't wan to kill me right!!!:D

Oddfather
03-05-2007, 03:53 PM
sigh.. shall i repeat myself?

"as long as you can't see the kitchen, you never know what the food preparations wld be like.. in any kitchen.

i wouldn't say it's done in every pizza hut, but it was done in the outlet i worked at.. sometimes when the chopped up ingredients fall on the floor, they pick it up and put it back into the rest of it.."

i donno why some people can't seem to read posts properly..

you tokking about yourself ar?? dude......Did I say anything about pizza hut?? I am juz asking a general question. :mad:

bizzi
03-05-2007, 04:54 PM
yawn...

Oddfather
03-05-2007, 05:53 PM
no wonder they call it Sillypore.

TingMS
03-05-2007, 08:02 PM
sigh.. shall i repeat myself?

"as long as you can't see the kitchen, you never know what the food preparations wld be like.. in any kitchen.

i wouldn't say it's done in every pizza hut, but it was done in the outlet i worked at.. sometimes when the chopped up ingredients fall on the floor, they pick it up and put it back into the rest of it.."

i donno why some people can't seem to read posts properly..

bizzi,

you like chinese food prepared in the chinese restaurant?

:)

Thomas
03-05-2007, 09:50 PM
dem good man......monkey brain in ang sui.......and deep fried monkey meat.....and monkey curry....yummy....

Sure bo? In Ang Sui??? Illegal le! ANd pity the monkey lar....the brain got eaten alive!

I prefer sea food. Fish especially. And I'm allergic to Crabs and Prawns. ISH!!!

shiruikage
03-05-2007, 09:53 PM
i donno about pizza hut, but i've worked at mines shopping centre's shakey's pizza b4, and still, i eat pizza. but not their pizza lar. and def not their sandwich or chicken salad. why? made from leftover frozen chicken. :sick:

anyway, their pizza is certified by former employee (moir!) to be clean, even the preparations. honest!

but my fren's worked at kfc b4, and he never touches the stuff ever again. his reason being that he got jelak of looking at chicken all day long. but while we were living together, everynite got free kfc leftovers. hahahah. especially the whiped potato and coleslaw! kewl!

a wise man (my father that is :D); the cleanest things is the one u never seen. he meant that wat u don see is always the cleanest.

laineyee
03-06-2007, 08:09 AM
hmm, my housemate was a health inspector, and sometimes the fanciest restaurants have the dirtiest kitchens oddpapa, you won't know until you inspect.

the places she adviced not to go, i still occasionally pong chan bcos the food is nice but i definitely pray over it first.

Oddfather
03-06-2007, 08:44 AM
hmm, my housemate was a health inspector, and sometimes the fanciest restaurants have the dirtiest kitchens oddpapa, you won't know until you inspect.

the places she adviced not to go, i still occasionally pong chan bcos the food is nice but i definitely pray over it first.

wise men thinks alike. :) :D

SS2006
03-06-2007, 12:53 PM
hmm, my housemate was a health inspector, and sometimes the fanciest restaurants have the dirtiest kitchens oddpapa, you won't know until you inspect.

the places she adviced not to go, i still occasionally pong chan bcos the food is nice but i definitely pray over it first.

Hmmm...if like that hawker should be better because you can see them preparing your food, if dirty then dun pong chan. But in fancy restaurants you dun know how clean/dirty their kitchen is.:worried: