2007 F1

[Big Chief]

This year is going to be super exciting without Shumi.
Kimi in for Ferrari, Alonso joined McLaren.... wow!

[Big Chief]

Check this out!
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigchief45/2007mclaren.jpg
It's McLaren's 2007 car

[Voon Chan]

...........**sigh**
I will missed Schumi on the track this year.
BTW, who are the 2 drivers for Renault?

[Big Chief]

G Fisichella
H Kovalainen

[LiLiaN]

i am not sure if i want to watch F1 this year...
too depressing that alonso is with mclaren...
and kimi is with ferrari...

[Big Chief]

i am not sure if i want to watch F1 this year...
too depressing that alonso is with mclaren...
and kimi is with ferrari...

McLaren fans will always be McLaren fans.....

[alfred98]

The race is open wide lioa.......See how is post shoe maker era!!!:)

[justin hong]

The new Ferrari looks mighty "garang" and impressive. Any bets who's gonna be the 2007 champion?

[Big Chief]

Alonso & McLaren

[Voon Chan]

I think that Kimi & Ferari but Kimi need to learn more about the car before he can perform

[Big Chief]

I think that Kimi & Ferari but Kimi need to learn more about the car before he can perform

I agree with you.

[Voon Chan]

Meanwhile, Alonso may be stuck with reliabilty issue of his new car

[Big Chief]

The reliability days of McLaren is over.
Passed the baton to Ferrari. It's a package which comes together with Kimi.

[Voon Chan]

Don't discount renault, they still have a very good car

[Big Chief]

Their baton package passed to McLaren.

[Voon Chan]

BC, are they doing relay here?
Keep passing baton only.
You think F1 is is 4 X100m in school ke?:p

[Big Chief]

BC, are they doing relay here?
Keep passing baton only.
You think F1 is is 4 X100m in school ke?:p

Seems like that.:p :p

[shiruikage]

i am not sure if i want to watch F1 this year...
too depressing that alonso is with mclaren...
and kimi is with ferrari...
now wats so depressing about that?

Alonso & McLaren
but of coz. maclaren rulez!

Don't discount renault, they still have a very good car
hahah, oni becoz they have a good driver in alonso. my new man. my made man!
Their baton package passed to McLaren.

hell yeah!

[Big Chief]

but of coz. maclaren rulez!
hahah, oni becoz they have a good driver in alonso. my new man. my made man!
hell yeah!

I love you bradeh..!

[LiLiaN]

depressing because i want kimi + mclaren, not kimi + ferrari or alonso + mclaren...

[Big Chief]

Let Big Chief cheer you up...
I'll give you a good time in Sitiawan...

[Voon Chan]

Do you think Singapore can host a F1 race?

[shiruikage]

Do you think Singapore can host a F1 race?

nop, safety concerns, road not suitable, althout the setting would be nice.

[Voon Chan]

I felt the same too Shirui

[LiLiaN]

not necessarily... look at monaco, it's on their daily used roads!

[shiruikage]

not necessarily... look at monaco, it's on their daily used roads!

wat works in monaco may not work in singapore. miracles don happen twice, and monaco residents are more mature than those here. we have ah beng idiots who fence sits u know. <---politically incorrect maybe, but there really are such idiots. besides, they have a racing tradition that span decades.

[Big Chief]

wat works in monaco may not work in singapore. miracles don happen twice, and monaco residents are more mature than those here. we have ah beng idiots who fence sits u know. <---politically incorrect maybe, but there really are such idiots. besides, they have a racing tradition that span decades.

Kiasu & kiasi somemore..
They may limit the speed to 110kmh.... :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

BC they also kia-chenghu

[shiruikage]

Kiasu & kiasi somemore..
They may limit the speed to 110kmh.... :laugh:

wattt 110kmh? city road speed limit is oni 60kmh lar, on highway oni 90kmh nia. so thats the city rite? so max speed is 60kmh nia. i cycle oso faster than them ar.

[Big Chief]

wattt 110kmh? city road speed limit is oni 60kmh lar, on highway oni 90kmh nia. so thats the city rite? so max speed is 60kmh nia. i cycle oso faster than them ar.

Can you imagine 90kmh on any F1 race? :laugh: :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

F1 car will be on 1st & 2nd gear only:p Can you imagine 90kmh on any F1 race? :laugh: :laugh:

[shiruikage]

Can you imagine 90kmh on any F1 race? :laugh: :laugh:

F1 car will be on 1st & 2nd gear only:p

lol....if they go so slow, they must change engine every one lap! good for business for hawkers. time to change engine, they buy drinks and wait. lol.

[Big Chief]

lol....if they go so slow, they must change engine every one lap! good for business for hawkers. time to change engine, they buy drinks and wait. lol.

There are comments about the food in Sepang - 'SUCKS and CUT-THROAT'

[shiruikage]

There are comments about the food in Sepang - 'SUCKS and CUT-THROAT'

if they don cut troat ar, mana got economy? just like PLUS lar like dat. sembelih kau kau one.

[Voon Chan]

Remember the hari raya song.
Selamat hari raya

Selamat hari F1
Setahun, hanya sekali
Mestilah sembelih:p if they don cut troat ar, mana got economy? just like PLUS lar like dat. sembelih kau kau one.

[LiLiaN]

ok, the races kick start this weekend...
but now that i have no tv at home, don't know what to do... :sad-2:

[cxtreme]

wah the mclaren car looks damn chio!~! always liked their silver colour as contrasted to the solid colours...renault's white is quite ugly..


hmm interestingly vodafone is now mclaren sponsor....maybe that's what mclaren needs...some red colour forluck?haha

anyway how come alonso retained the number 1..i.e. isn't it supposed to go to the top constructor?

[justin hong]

ok, the races kick start this weekend...
but now that i have no tv at home, don't know what to do... :sad-2:

Will keep you posted and updated through this forum.:D

[cxtreme]

lil, there's actually this live timing thing that's at the f1 website..quite interesting...you dont see the car but you get to track their progress throughout the race and there's more indepth commentary etc...sometiems penalties etc gets flashed onthat even b4 the commentators mention it.

[LiLiaN]

oh yeah, i've used that previously...
there were times last year when i had to work on sundays...
since there is no tv in the office, i read the live timing lor...
the commentary is actually quite brief for most part...

but it's not quite the same as watching the race...

[daBoss]

lilian, too bad you don't get the mamak stalls with the large tv screens over there in your location... for the price of 1 teh-o-ais-limau and 1 roti kosong, you also get a good show. :)

[Anson F-Clef]

depressing because i want kimi + mclaren, not kimi + ferrari or alonso + mclaren...

Aiyaaaa.....just becoz Mika Hakkinen the former F1 driver being Finnish drove a McLaren, so u wanna coin Kimi R, another Finnish SOLELY to McLaren lah! Ya kah?? :eek: BTW I used to be a lil bit of McL-Mercedes punya supporter ONLY becoz I quite perpetually am a Benzi fan leh!! :laugh:

Lilian, why not look out for Youtube clips (delayed telecast) that may be aired - WORSE to WORSE....:eek:?? Or get a 14 inch that should be el Cheapo....

[cxtreme]

haha during the live telecast ...i always watch the starting, fall asleep, wakeuip during the pit stop, fall asleep..and wake up again to watch the press conference...and that was when the race staqrted at 7pm local time..hahaha

just wanted to watch flying cars, which normally happen around the first bend

[LiLiaN]

daboss, we have pubs with big screens but because there's always football matches (EPL etc) or rugby games going on (esp this weekend, the deciding weekend for 6 nations - ireland and france both on chance to win), they would inevitably show those instead of formula 1... :(

anson, i've always up to now supported mclaren and will continue to do so... nothing to do with mika and kimi being finnish although that was nice coincidence... just happen that my current fave driver being kimi, but the team i support being mclaren, it's a bit hard for me to decide where to support now...

cxtreme, luckily for me, most races start in the afternoon (local time for me) so no falling asleep thing going but when the races are in far-east, i had to then get up really really really early to watch it live...

[Anson F-Clef]

anson, i've always up to now supported mclaren and will continue to do so... nothing to do with mika and kimi being finnish although that was nice coincidence... just happen that my current fave driver being kimi, but the team i support being mclaren, it's a bit hard for me to decide where to support now......

LONG LIVE McLAREN and MERZ the BENZI ~ AGAIN for just ONE MORE CHANCE!!!!

[Odysseus]

Anyone going to watch the race in Sepang??

[LiLiaN]

i should ask, anyone taking part in whatever competition by shell (i think)...
potentially can go eat with kimi leh!!!!

[Big Chief]

...anson, i've always up to now supported mclaren and will continue to do so... nothing to do with mika and kimi being finnish although that was nice coincidence... just happen that my current fave driver being kimi, but the team i support being mclaren, it's a bit hard for me to decide where to support now...

cxtreme, luckily for me, most races start in the afternoon (local time for me) so no falling asleep thing going but when the races are in far-east, i had to then get up really really really early to watch it live...
Lil, teamwork always work better than individuals.
So Mc'Laren my dear, learn great secrets from Big Chief ya..? :D
LONG LIVE McLAREN and MERZ the BENZI ~ AGAIN for just ONE MORE CHANCE!!!!
You are ma Brother!
Anyone going to watch the race in Sepang??
If me got free ticket, me wanna go!
i should ask, anyone taking part in whatever competition by shell (i think)...
potentially can go eat with kimi leh!!!!
Hint! Hint! MONEYMAN.

[cxtreme]

when f1 first came to sepang, got offered tickets to go watch...haha...uncle worked for shell so he had tickets and could access many of the errm restricted areas i think (cant remember)..also had another friend, yong kim leon, who was working with BAe Marconi Systems who also offered tickets (BAe was a sponsor of mclaren then)

unfortunately..i was still in school..so couldn't go..darn!

now no one offer me free tickets liao...and even in school, singapore doesn't show live telecast of f1!~!!

[ah-wong]

Can't believe F1 is starting again this weekend. OMG! I can't wait any more. Don't know who to support this season yet...

[Kampong Boy]

Anyone going to watch the race in Sepang??

got people going for sun tan there? Can get forum special rates?

[LiLiaN]

got people going for sun tan there? Can get forum special rates?
forum not a sponsor of F1 = no special rates :p

[Kampong Boy]

forum not a sponsor of F1 = no special rates :p

no need to be sponsor. thot got enough connect connect here and there to get specials.

[Odysseus]

If me got free ticket, me wanna go!


Me got free ticket also me dun wanna go. Hot like hell :mad:

[ah-wong]

Weekend is almost here already!! :eek:

Ferrari tops the friday practice sessions but it looks like McLaren-Mercedes, BMW, Williams-Toyota and Renault are close behind.

Anyone think that Ferrari will run away with both titles?

[Oddfather]

Me got free ticket also me dun wanna go. Hot like hell :mad:

give to others lor.......no need to go to waste. :mad:

[buff]

watching the qualifying on RTM2. local commentator.... man, it really sucks... he's manage to make F1 totally lacking any excitement!! :wacko:

[cxtreme]

gah!!! i'm not used to seeing kimi in red...

andalso vodafone mercedes???

haha
but interesting starting line up....unfortunately i cant see the race!!

[Anson F-Clef]

watching the qualifying on RTM2. local commentator.... man, it really sucks... he's manage to make F1 totally lacking any excitement!! :wacko:

Hasbullah Awang u mean?? If it's him, he fits BEST to Badminton leh!

[yee keong]

Kimi the champ!

[Big Chief]

McLaren leads... :p

[buff]

i'm torn - favourite drive is kimi but favourite team is mclaren... how? double happiness for me? :laugh:

[Big Chief]

Do you prefer individual to teamwork?
To me, teamwork more important..
McLaren Go!!!

[LiLiaN]

i'm glad kimi won but it's not mclaren... :(

[Anson F-Clef]

McLaren leads... :p

McLaren leads and so shall the BENZI!!

[yee keong]

I also like McLaren. dunno why, maybe it was due to Hakkinen

[shiruikage]

i like their color scheme...and the looks of their car.....wat? too shallow?

[Anson F-Clef]

I also like McLaren. dunno why, maybe it was due to Hakkinen

He started the ball rolling and now, ALONSO MUST CARRY ON THIS LEGACY MANNN!!!

[LiLiaN]

I also like McLaren. dunno why, maybe it was due to Hakkinen
i miss hakkinen in F1... :(

[ah-wong]

Catch the F1 Official team testing from March 27-29 at Sepang circuit for FREE!. Er, weekdays...so u need to take time off work.

http://www.malaysiangp.com.my/news.asp?nid=507

But, they didn't specify what time are the testings.

[buff]

Catch the F1 Official team testing from March 27-29 at Sepang circuit for FREE!. Er, weekdays...so u need to take time off work.

http://www.malaysiangp.com.my/news.asp?nid=507

But, they didn't specify what time are the testings.


let's organise a 'ponteng kerja beramai-ramai to watch testing' trip....

Signing up:

1) Ah Wong
2) Buff

[Big Chief]

i'm glad kimi won but it's not mclaren... :(
Don't worry, it's just the beginning.
We're interested in the World championship...
I also like McLaren. dunno why, maybe it was due to Hakkinen
Hakkinen's the MAN!
i like their color scheme...and the looks of their car.....wat? too shallow?
Beautiful!
What Shallow?
i miss hakkinen in F1... :(
Me too!
Catch the F1 Official team testing from March 27-29 at Sepang circuit for FREE!. Er, weekdays...so u need to take time off work.

http://www.malaysiangp.com.my/news.asp?nid=507

But, they didn't specify what time are the testings.
Bila?
let's organise a 'ponteng kerja beramai-ramai to watch testing' trip....

Signing up:

1) Ah Wong
2) Buff
1) Ah Wong
2) Buff
3) Big Chief

[LiLiaN]

honestly, yeah, i wouldn't mind kimi win the driver's championship...
and mclaren to get the constructor's championship... ;)

[Anson F-Clef]

Not fair! McL can not only take the Constructors' title - and similarly my faith shall then with Fernando A!
Andalay, andalay, Y'arriva!!!

[Voon Chan]

Singapore trying hard to host F1.
So, some Malaysian feel that Singapore should not host F1.
IMHO, it is a free world.
We must maintain & improve Sepang Circuit

[Big Chief]

Why Singaporeans always want to do better than Malaysians?
In A1, they also claim Alex Yoong is a fluke.

[Voon Chan]

BC, they kiasulah!

[shiruikage]

Singapore trying hard to host F1.
So, some Malaysian feel that Singapore should not host F1.
IMHO, it is a free world.
We must maintain & improve Sepang Circuit

Why Singaporeans always want to do better than Malaysians?
In A1, they also claim Alex Yoong is a fluke.

erhhhh....alex yoong IS a fluke. A1 champ does not translate to F1 podium finisher.

anyway, don think singapore will host the race. reason being safety. sg gahment and many singaporeans think that there's no place for the track. and if the plan to use the marina south roads for race, had to close many major road just for the race, and that could disrupt traffic in city centre for at least 4 days. sg gahment so kiasu loose money, and sg ppl so kiasu don wan so much hassle, they rather not hav the f1 in sg. malaysia one not bad oredi wat rite?

if evey country say they wan to host f1 circuit, later everywhere oso got f1 circuit, loose the magic leh. i say keep the circuits number small to keep it...rare. rare stuff afterall are more valueble. :D

[Big Chief]

erhhhh....alex yoong IS a fluke. A1 champ does not translate to F1 podium finisher.

I was talking about Alex in A1.
His winnings in A1 were considered fluke by Sillyporeans.

[ah-wong]

So, anybody ponteng work to see the Official Team Testing :p

I went yesterday...didn't ponteng work though. Sorry Buff and Big Chief, didn't inform u guys abt it.

It was great fun. Went to the pit area with my friend. Was there for nearly an hour before we were discovered by security people. You actually need a pass to get in there. But, the entire mall area is free. You can choose to seat at any grandstand seat...i recommmend The Tower.

Testing starts from 9am to 5pm. It ends today. So, still got time!! Hurry.....

[buff]

So, anybody ponteng work to see the Official Team Testing :p

I went yesterday...didn't ponteng work though. Sorry Buff and Big Chief, didn't inform u guys abt it.

It was great fun. Went to the pit area with my friend. Was there for nearly an hour before we were discovered by security people. You actually need a pass to get in there. But, the entire mall area is free. You can choose to seat at any grandstand seat...i recommmend The Tower.

Testing starts from 9am to 5pm. It ends today. So, still got time!! Hurry.....

aiyah, i should have arranged a meeting at klia, so can drop by...

[jstanly]

:D Ferrari and Kimi rules this weekend in Sepang....

[abudong]

2 more days will be Malaysia's turn to bcum the F1 host!!! Hope McLaren team will get a better position for that.
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[Big Chief]

:D Ferrari and Kimi rules this weekend in Sepang....
Sorry bro!
I'm on the McLaren side...
Louis Hamilton is ma man this season...:cool:
2 more days will be Malaysia's turn to bcum the F1 host!!! Hope McLaren team will get a better position for that.
I love ya bro..!
I'm sure they will.

[Odysseus]

after all the great discussions, who is going to sepang to shout for your drivers?

[Big Chief]

The engine sound too loud for us to shout la..:p

[buff]

i remember a few of us - daboss, turkey, went to sepang to watch the race. we actually left after 40 mins so that we could watch the finish at home... :wacko:

[Anson F-Clef]

Watching it live is not worth it lah - becos SIC CAN sometimes FEEL somewhat like 45 degrees Celsius leh!!! (desert temp ~ nosebleed!!!)

The engine sound too loud for us to shout la..:p

Stay at home lah bro! BTW the siaran langsung is gonna be Sunday 3pm right?

[LiLiaN]

darn it... kimi only 3rd...
bright side, mclaren did really well!!

[Anson F-Clef]

darn it... kimi only 3rd...
bright side, mclaren did really well!!

Big Cheerz to the Big Chieftain and Long Live the name of the BEN-ZI ~ Yaaaaaammmmmmmm seeeeengggggg!!! :eek: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[daBoss]

ya... i was really hoping tha kimi would overtake lewis... but didn't manage to :(

thank goodness got kimi... without schuey, f1 not so intersting liao.

[Anson F-Clef]

A-lon-so, A-lon-so, Ha-mil-ton, Ha-mil-ton!

Long live the Mac and the Benzi!!

L Hamilton REALLY LENG CHAI MANNN!!!

[Odysseus]

thank goodness got kimi... without schuey, f1 not so intersting liao.
hahahahah... true but it applies to fellali onli la..:p

[Big Chief]

darn it... kimi only 3rd...
bright side, mclaren did really well!!

Big Cheerz to the Big Chieftain and Long Live the name of the BEN-ZI ~ Yaaaaaammmmmmmm seeeeengggggg!!! :eek: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

ya... i was really hoping tha kimi would overtake lewis... but didn't manage to

thank goodness got kimi... without schuey, f1 not so intersting liao.

A-lon-so, A-lon-so, Ha-mil-ton, Ha-mil-ton!

Long live the Mac and the Benzi!!

L Hamilton REALLY LENG CHAI MANNN!!!
YAAA....BAA...DAA...BAAA...DOOOOOOO....!!!!!

[jstanly]

Congrats to McClaren for the 1 & 2 position!! I guess the first 3 spots will be rotated among Alonso, Hamilton and Kimi?? Don't u think so.

[Big Chief]

Don't rule out Heidfield.

[LiLiaN]

well, at the moment, it's still very much between kimi, alonso and hamilton...
hamilton is really one to look out for...
unlike the rookies last season, he has been doing good and not faltering...

[shiruikage]

ya... i was really hoping tha kimi would overtake lewis... but didn't manage to :(

thank goodness got kimi... without schuey, f1 not so intersting liao.

hahahahah... true but it applies to fellali onli la..:p

with schuey...every rase oso menang, wats so exciting about that? :blink:

YAAA....BAA...DAA...BAAA...DOOOOOOO....!!!!!

hahahah, yea with u brader! MACLAREN WINS!

[Anson F-Clef]

hahahah, yea with u brader! MACLAREN WINS!

KAMPAIIII!!!!!! BTW when is the next one coming up?

[buff]

L Hamilton REALLY LENG CHAI MANNN!!!

AFC, you coming out of the closet?

:sick:

[Big Chief]

well, at the moment, it's still very much between kimi, alonso and hamilton...
hamilton is really one to look out for...
unlike the rookies last season, he has been doing good and not faltering...
McLaren ma....!


hahahah, yea with u brader! MACLAREN WINS!

Wise men chose the correct teams...:blink:

[jstanly]

Renault looks lost without Alonso!! So is it the car or driver that makes the difference in a F1 race?? or Tyres:p

[Alkapocino]

Renault looks lost without Alonso!! So is it the car or driver that makes the difference in a F1 race?? or Tyres:p

Shell for champions!! :D

[LiLiaN]

Renault looks lost without Alonso!! So is it the car or driver that makes the difference in a F1 race?? or Tyres:p
all, plus the strategy... but having a good driver is very important...
good driver with good car, and good team with good strategy, it's winning formula...

[Big Chief]

Renault looks lost without Alonso!! So is it the car or driver that makes the difference in a F1 race?? or Tyres:p
I don't know about renault, but its all teamwork in McLaren...
Shell for champions!! :D
Shell kalah la... :squeeze:
Mobil bro, Mobil 1.
Say it..... MOBIL 1!
all, plus the strategy... but having a good driver is very important...
good driver with good car, and good team with good strategy, it's winning formula...
Look what happened to Raikonen...:eek:

[Oddfather]

its good to see somebody else, other than the red car wins.

Everytime see red car win also sian liao.....no challenge, no fight, no chee kek.

[justin hong]

Ferrari lost Ross Brown, the chief strategist. That's why lost on strategy last weekend.

[LiLiaN]

hey, it's a race, with give and take...
plus even before going into the race last weekend...
there's already problem with kimi's car...
so to get the result that he did, i think that was good... :)

[Big Chief]

its good to see somebody else, other than the red car wins.

Everytime see red car win also sian liao.....no challenge, no fight, no chee kek.
Toyota also red you know...
hey, it's a race, with give and take...
plus even before going into the race last weekend...
there's already problem with kimi's car...
so to get the result that he did, i think that was good... :)
Ya, ya, we know....:p

[Oddfather]

Toyota also red you know...


but not all red like some........ang ang boh hai lang. :cool:

[cxtreme]

hmm...even mclaren now is red...still find it a bit strange with their red silver motive as compared to the red black motive.

massa first place for ferrari with hamilton second. raikonnen third and alonso 4th..at the moment 3 ppl share the top position...interesting..

[shiruikage]

Ferrari lost Ross Brown, the chief strategist. That's why lost on strategy last weekend.

hey, it's a race, with give and take...
plus even before going into the race last weekend...
there's already problem with kimi's car...
so to get the result that he did, i think that was good... :)

dude, its a race. a R A C E! there is no strategy, as if that would make any difference. :rolleyes: get a good car, a good engine that don act up on race day, a stable driver (no someone who lost his cool every few seconds), and pork! podium finish champaign cork flying around oredi.

good car, good engine, good driver, win race, good one, good show.

good car, bad engine, good driver, win race, excellent one, the only show worth watching on earth.

good car, good engine, good driver, wins all races, the only show on earth worth bazooka-ing, IF you can wake urself up from the boredom. :noworry:

[LiLiaN]

ah you're so wrong there my dear... strategy plays a huge part!!! there were often good car, good driver, good engine but wins no race...

[Big Chief]

ah you're so wrong there my dear... strategy plays a huge part!!! there were often good car, good driver, good engine but wins no race...

The Mecanics, the tyres, the weather,.........the luck.....

[cxtreme]

ah you're so wrong there my dear... strategy plays a huge part!!! there were often good car, good driver, good engine but wins no race...

thats becuase there's always a better car, better driver, better engine...haha and yes luck plays quikte a big role as well...

only thing i've seen in terms of strategy would be when to fill up etc how heavy u want the car to be but i feel in the end it's all the same..

the other strategy was of course the whole barrichelo letting shmacher overtake thing..cant remember which race was it

[justin hong]

dude, its a race. a R A C E! there is no strategy, as if that would make any difference. :rolleyes: get a good car, a good engine that don act up on race day, a stable driver (no someone who lost his cool every few seconds), and pork! podium finish champaign cork flying around oredi.

good car, good engine, good driver, win race, good one, good show.

good car, bad engine, good driver, win race, excellent one, the only show worth watching on earth.

good car, good engine, good driver, wins all races, the only show on earth worth bazooka-ing, IF you can wake urself up from the boredom. :noworry:


You are so wrong my friend. If you have watched the race back in 2004, MC won some of the races purely based on strategy. When to come in for fuel stop, how many fuel stops, how much fuel to put in, etc. I was in the Merdeka 12 hours endurance race in Sepang and strategy plays a crucial part of the race.

[shiruikage]

lagi jialat. endurance race f1 is not. u need to burn a set amount of fuel in a set amount of time for a set amount of distance. how many variables is there? i say strategy plays no part becoz to think that one guy can dictate how much fuel to carry, when to refuel that kind of things, and when he retire (or kena pecat), the claim that no one can take his place is ludicrous. its not strategy. its gut feeling. its technique. if everyone uses the same thing (becoz face it, it is quite common knowledge to add and divide fuel u know. anyone with a modicum of physics education can do it.), wat is there to strategize about? the word i would use, and which i think more represents the situation is, fine-tuning. Now.......that takes real skill, and it cant be learned overnight.

as for endurance races, strategy? i donno. but for rallies...especially the trans-saharan rallies, now, that takes strategy!

else for all other races, like sprinting, what strategy is there? honestly!:blink:

[LiLiaN]

it's not just adding/dividing fuel... there are courses where teams need to weigh between two or three pit stops, if the additional fuel onboard will slow the car down or indeed, let the drive goes longer around the track before pitting (providing nothing goes wrong during the pitstop itself)... or worse, miscalculation of fuel on board (remember, running out of fuel at the last lap and lose the race is never ever a good thing!)...

call this fine tuning if you want, but it's still strategy...

[shiruikage]

call this fine tuning if you want, but it's still strategy...

:p :laugh: :laugh:

[justin hong]

If no strategies are needed then I wonder why F1 teams spend so much $$ to hire a strategist.

[shiruikage]

If no strategies are needed then I wonder why F1 teams spend so much $$ to hire a strategist.

beats me. if they want someone who can count and decide when to pitstop, any competent mechanic can tell u. with the load of fuel ur carrying, u have to make a pit stop at so and so time. or if u wanna make certain numbers of pitstop, this is the amount of fuel u need to pump in each time. really blur why racing games such as this need strategist. its not like its fps or rts or even sim.

my guess is, they wan to downgrade they tax bracket and at the same time give lobang to orang sendiri?

[Big Chief]

Mika Hakkinen announced he may be returning to race for McLaren Mercedes....

[Odysseus]

Mika Hakkinen announced he may be returning to race for McLaren Mercedes....
Where was he when McClaren was struggling? Even if he returns, will he be the second driver?

[Anson F-Clef]

Mika Hakkinen announced he may be returning to race for McLaren Mercedes....

Eeeeeesh!!!! He is gonna touch 39 or 40 just like Justin, Ball and Glen and he had a hiatus to pitch into go-karting and he wants to come back in and square up?? Susah leh! (For once he used to be my fave driver)

[shiruikage]

Eeeeeesh!!!! He is gonna touch 39 or 40 just like Justin, Ball and Glen and he had a hiatus to pitch into go-karting and he wants to come back in and square up?? Susah leh! (For once he used to be my fave driver)

i bet he has better skill than, *ehem yoong *ehem!

[yee keong]

lagi jialat. endurance race f1 is not. u need to burn a set amount of fuel in a set amount of time for a set amount of distance. how many variables is there? i say strategy plays no part becoz to think that one guy can dictate how much fuel to carry, when to refuel that kind of things, and when he retire (or kena pecat), the claim that no one can take his place is ludicrous. its not strategy. its gut feeling. its technique. if everyone uses the same thing (becoz face it, it is quite common knowledge to add and divide fuel u know. anyone with a modicum of physics education can do it.), wat is there to strategize about? the word i would use, and which i think more represents the situation is, fine-tuning. Now.......that takes real skill, and it cant be learned overnight.

as for endurance races, strategy? i donno. but for rallies...especially the trans-saharan rallies, now, that takes strategy!

else for all other races, like sprinting, what strategy is there? honestly!:blink:

would like to know what is the difference in between a trans-saharan rally strategy as compared to a F1 or endurance race?
there are strategy in F1 and in endurance races. how many pit stops also because less fuel means car can go faster, at an expense of more pit stops, and more fuel means longer time on the track. lets just say, you're starting 10th on the grid, are you going to start with less fuel and stay behind so many ppl? you're not optimizing your weight advantage, but then again, in a track with less overtaking opportunities, starting in front with more fuel makes sense since many wont be able to have chance to overtake you anyway, and you get to stay ahead longer, but the timing of when to stop is also important. how far are you in front? if you go in and refuel, will the second car overtake you and stay in front for the rest of the race, or will he have to refuel? it's strategy la dude. if it's not strategy, all the races in the world have no strategy.
ok, sorry, some races REALLY do not have strategy, like straight line pecut between 2 cars only.

[shiruikage]

it may look like strategising, but the way i look at it is, its more of a tactical situation. tactical means for the immediated locality or situation, while strategy is more "overhead" kinda stuff. for the race, fuel loads vs pit stops vs speed, is just tactics. in f1 racing, the strategy i see (actually i don see) is if the boss or somebody in the team says, "hmm, our engines not running at optimum. al'rite, we'll scratch this race, get to work on the engine, and we'll win the nex race. even if we lose this battle, we still can win the war...with better engines!" dats strategy; an all encompassing plan involving the entire season. not some nilly plan involving just one race.

for drag racing, i totally agree, no such thing as strategy. endurance racing...the more i think about it, the more difficult it is for me to fit in the strategy part. i don know where it comes in because endurance racing is all about time-fuel consumption! dats it!

for games, first person shooter is always tactical, never strategic. real time strategy is strategy. action is again tactical. mmorpg is crimped strategy. wat else ar? oh, racing games...unless u play the simulation racing games, it's all tactical.

[LiLiaN]

errr if you haven't notice, they DO work on engine all the time, tweak around the aerodynamics etc etc etc... do you really follow F1 or are you just trying to shoot people down based on semantics..? :rolleyes:

[shiruikage]

errr if you haven't notice, they DO work on engine all the time, tweak around the aerodynamics etc etc etc... do you really follow F1 or are you just trying to shoot people down based on semantics..? :rolleyes:

i.......watch the race on race day! and ermmm........witness behind the scenes on how they prep the car for race....and oso....arrrrr......the politics of choosing drivers, and yeah, a bit is also about the semantics. :) a rose by any other name smells just as sweet, yes, but its thorn still cuts deep.

[LiLiaN]

well then, may i suggest you check out the F1 website and learn a bit more before arguing further with semantics...

and wrong, a rose by some other name doesn't equate thorns that cut equally deep and if we really want to argue on semantics, the thorns are actually not thorns but are prickles and there are some variety of roses with vestigial prickles which would not cut...


now, shall we move on to proper appreciation of F1? thanks! ;)

[shiruikage]

well then, may i suggest you check out the F1 website and learn a bit more before arguing further with semantics...

and wrong, a rose by some other name doesn't equate thorns that cut equally deep and if we really want to argue on semantics, the thorns are actually not thorns but are prickles and there are some variety of roses with vestigial prickles which would not cut...


now, shall we move on to proper appreciation of F1? thanks! ;)

:p :laugh:

[Big Chief]

i.......watch the race on race day! and ermmm........witness behind the scenes on how they prep the car for race....and oso....arrrrr......the politics of choosing drivers, and yeah, a bit is also about the semantics. :) a rose by any other name smells just as sweet, yes, but its thorn still cuts deep.

well then, may i suggest you check out the F1 website and learn a bit more before arguing further with semantics...

and wrong, a rose by some other name doesn't equate thorns that cut equally deep and if we really want to argue on semantics, the thorns are actually not thorns but are prickles and there are some variety of roses with vestigial prickles which would not cut...


now, shall we move on to proper appreciation of F1? thanks! ;)
Big Chief smokes peace pipe with Shiru & Lilian.
It's all for the love of F1.
Whatever it is, F1 is the most interesting sports to watch if one is a speed freak like yours truly..:)

[shiruikage]

Big Chief smokes peace pipe with Shiru & Lilian.
It's all for the love of F1.
Whatever it is, F1 is the most interesting sports to watch if one is a speed freak like yours truly..:)

even u felt the tension in the air ar? hahahaha. maclaren rulez!~

[yee keong]

tactical meaning at the moment type of situation (check up the meaning), while strategy, like you mentioned, meant more to the overall preparation BEFORE the race. during the race, it's tactical. so preparation for how many stops to make, what's the fuel load and choice of tyres ARE strategies, NOT tactical. if it rains during the race, then the team can make a TACTICAL decision to change to wet tyres, but anything that happens before the race are STRATEGY.

maybe the issue here is basically the understanding the meaning of the 2 words, rather than the race itself.

cheers!

[Big Chief]

Strategy also means the team that has the most sexiest Grid Queens...:eek:

[justin hong]

would like to know what is the difference in between a trans-saharan rally strategy as compared to a F1 or endurance race?
there are strategy in F1 and in endurance races. how many pit stops also because less fuel means car can go faster, at an expense of more pit stops, and more fuel means longer time on the track. lets just say, you're starting 10th on the grid, are you going to start with less fuel and stay behind so many ppl? you're not optimizing your weight advantage, but then again, in a track with less overtaking opportunities, starting in front with more fuel makes sense since many wont be able to have chance to overtake you anyway, and you get to stay ahead longer, but the timing of when to stop is also important. how far are you in front? if you go in and refuel, will the second car overtake you and stay in front for the rest of the race, or will he have to refuel? it's strategy la dude. if it's not strategy, all the races in the world have no strategy. ok, sorry, some races REALLY do not have strategy, like straight line pecut between 2 cars only.

You're right on the highlighted part. There are just too many factors to explain regarding race strategies. Here's one example.......

Let's say in a race track where overtaking is very difficult (Like Monaco) and if the driver, say Kimi here, gets pole position, the team stragegy MIGHT be to have him on full fuel load to get the distance and reduce pit stops (if his tyres permits). But if the other driver behind him, say Alonso, have a faster car on that day and finds that Kimi is just blocking him, his team might just call him in for an early pit stop, esp after they calculate his pit stop exit to coincide with the time when there'll be less traffic / back markers to block him. This way Alonso might just be able to post fast time (with less traffic in front) so much so that by the time Kimi exit his pit stop, Alonso will be in front of him.
There are also other factors to consider like tyres performace, back markers blocking, weather changes, yellow flags (no overtaking when it so happens he gets a chance to do so), the deployment of safety car (fuel burning, cars gap closing), etc. All these changes will definately make the chief strategist to re-think / change his original strategy.

[yee keong]

Strategy also means the team that has the most sexiest Grid Queens...:eek:

damn, i forgot the most important strategy!!! :o

[LiLiaN]

finally, another race this weekend! (one month break is wayyyyy too long!)

[LiLiaN]

darn darn darn... just got access to internet and checking on live timing...
kimi is already out of the race...

on the other hand, yay to mclaren, hamilton is really on the roll!!!

[ah-wong]

kimi = driver with reliable F1 car.
I think this equation doesn't tally at all!

can't even recall any 'legal' overtaking at all yesterday :huh:

[LiLiaN]

something was not right with ferrari yesterday...
i'm amazed massa won after the flash fire of his car!

[Big Chief]

something was not right with ferrari yesterday...
i'm amazed massa won after the flash fire of his car!

It's the driver Lil.. :p

[LiLiaN]

massa causing fire to his car? :huh:

[Big Chief]

massa causing fire to his car? :huh:

He won though

[Anson F-Clef]

Strategy also means the team that has the most sexiest Grid Queens...:eek:

Gambar mana? Or else, shall we check out www.racequeen.org?? :p

[Big Chief]

Gambar mana? Or else, shall we check out www.racequeen.org?? :p
Louis Hamilton says he's so focus on the race until he doesn't remember seeing grid queens wor..?

[justin hong]

massa causing fire to his car? :huh:

It was the fuelling member or the fuel rig that did not close properly after removing it causing some fuel vapour to spill onto the hot surface of the car which caused the fire. Massa looked at his side mirror after leaving his pit box and instinctively slowed down but decided to continue leaving the pit. Fortunately the fire put off by itself but that have caused some valuable seconds. However he was lucky to have won the race.

[Anson F-Clef]

Louis Hamilton says he's so focus on the race until he doesn't remember seeing grid queens wor..?

Meaning he's still young AND INNOCENT?? :eek::laugh:!!!!

[Big Chief]

Meaning he's still young AND INNOCENT?? :eek::laugh:!!!!
Male cow's droppings.

[Oddfather]

Meaning he's still young AND INNOCENT?? :eek::laugh:!!!!

sounds like your opposite!!! :eek:

[Big Chief]

Louis Hamilton leads the Championship as a rookie.
Will he be as good or better than Shumi?

McLaren leads the Championship.
Does that mean Fellali is on its way out?
Hmmm...

[LiLiaN]

if hamilton keeps it consistant like now, he's well on his way for championship...
this rookie is no fluke... i'm very impressed with him...
he could beat alonso's record on being the youngest world F1 champion... ;)

[Big Chief]

if hamilton keeps it consistant like now, he's well on his way for championship...
this rookie is no fluke... i'm very impressed with him...
he could beat alonso's record on being the youngest world F1 champion... ;)
Where's your loyalty to Raikonen?

[LiLiaN]

still here, among my loyalty to mclaren... ;)

[Anson F-Clef]

if hamilton keeps it consistant like now, he's well on his way for championship...
this rookie is no fluke... i'm very impressed with him...
he could beat alonso's record on being the youngest world F1 champion... ;)

Thumbzup and agreed, Lilian!!!!

[Big Chief]

still here, among my loyalty to mclaren... ;)

Cheers to all McLaren fans! :)

[jstanly]

wah liau, i never enjoy an F1 race as much as I did tonite.. so many incident and the safety car was kept busy the whole race. The BMW crash was really scary!!

Looks like L.Hamilton will have his historic victory tonite...

[Big Chief]

Louis Hamilton was the Main Man!
Race spoilt by the numurous Safety Car deployment because of the amazing amount of crashes.
Cheers to Heidfield too.
He had a fantastic race.
Alonso had some major problems with his car. He found difficulties negotiating corners. His Mercedes McLaren had too much understeer.

[LiLiaN]

damn no tv at home!!! :sad-2:

[Big Chief]

damn no tv at home!!! :sad-2:

What's happening to your Kimi?
He's not performing at all. :sad-2:

[shiruikage]

kimi is asking "simi lang?"...hahahhaha.

the driver of the crashed car was really lucky. crash at such a high speed oso get off with minor injury. man, f1 ares are really built to to survive a crash huh...niceeeeeeeeeee.

by the way, go maclaren!!!!!!! die fellalli!!!!!:laugh:

[LiLiaN]

What's happening to your Kimi?
He's not performing at all. :sad-2:
i have no idea... i'm still trying to channel the good vibe to him...
maybe not strong enough... hmmm...

on the other side, absolutely delighted with mclaren's performance...
they're doing so so so well! and hamilton is quite the rookie...
if he could win his first season, then it's really historical!

[shiruikage]

just a thot......how come there's no female drivers leh? sure will up the sex appeal of this sport by a million degrees. :smile-2:

[PreciousPearl]

just a thot......how come there's no female drivers leh? sure will up the sex appeal of this sport by a million degrees. :smile-2:

i think there are 3 female drivers in NASCAR this yr.
there was a female F1 driver back in the '70s but i suspect she couldn't keep up. as i understand it very very few women have the right biological characteristics / physical build to be able to compete in F1 - it's something to do with the spatial awareness, perception and differentiation that exists between men & women, and unfortunately, women don't have it or enough of it.

Go, Robert Kubica! and don't crash again! :p

[shiruikage]

i think there are 3 female drivers in NASCAR this yr.
there was a female F1 driver back in the '70s but i suspect she couldn't keep up. as i understand it very very few women have the right biological characteristics / physical build to be able to compete in F1 - it's something to do with the spatial awareness, perception and differentiation that exists between men & women, and unfortunately, women don't have it or enough of it.

Go, Robert Kubica! and don't crash again! :p

huh? and i thot its becoz everyone says women are bad drivers......:confused: should hav more women drivers. i support more women drivers....dat said, go maclaren!!!

[LiLiaN]

yippee!!! so happy kimi won the french and the british grand prix...
and at the same time mclaren is still topping the constructors championship...
just going along quite nicely like this... :D

[yee keong]

hamilton has been on podium all the time! great run for a rookie!

[Anson F-Clef]

i think there are 3 female drivers in NASCAR this yr.
there was a female F1 driver back in the '70s but i suspect she couldn't keep up. as i understand it very very few women have the right biological characteristics / physical build to be able to compete in F1 - it's something to do with the spatial awareness, perception and differentiation that exists between men & women, and unfortunately, women don't have it or enough of it.

Go, Robert Kubica! and don't crash again! :p

just a thot......how come there's no female drivers leh? sure will up the sex appeal of this sport by a million degrees. :smile-2:

Info from http://www.motorsm.com/motorsport/auto/drivers/F1_drivers.asp:

WOMEN DRIVERS IN FORMULA 1 GP:
1958: Maria Teresa De Filippis - 4 GPs

1975-76: Lella Lombardi - 12 GPs

Drivers who failed to qualify: Giovanna Amati , Davina Galica, Desiré Wilson

[Big Chief]

hamilton has been on podium all the time! great run for a rookie!
Viva La Louis!
Info from http://www.motorsm.com/motorsport/auto/drivers/F1_drivers.asp:

WOMEN DRIVERS IN FORMULA 1 GP:
1958: Maria Teresa De Filippis - 4 GPs

1975-76: Lella Lombardi - 12 GPs

Drivers who failed to qualify: Giovanna Amati , Davina Galica, Desiré Wilson
Next: Chris C?

[Anson F-Clef]

Viva La Louis! Next WOMAN F1 DRIVER: Chris C?

Yeah! Vive la Benzi and Chris C!!!! :eek:

[elvin]

YeayYY!!!
CHINA 5 MALAYSIA 1........oops wrong thread....:o sorry ah...

[Chris C]

YeayYY!!!
CHINA 5 MALAYSIA 1........oops wrong thread....:o sorry ah...

:laugh: ....want me to move it to the appropriate thread? :)

[elvin]

:laugh: ....want me to move it to the appropriate thread? :)

No need lah...the result is still same just that we got no goals this time...5-0 how memalukan...let me switch back the channel to F1 better...go mclaren go! beat ferraris A**!!!:p

[Anson F-Clef]

YeayYY!!!
CHINA 5 MALAYSIA 1........oops wrong thread....:o sorry ah...

Eyeeeshhhhhhh - gua tau hin-hin :p

[Anson F-Clef]

No need lah...the result is still same just that we got no goals this time...5-0 how memalukan...let me switch back the channel to F1 better...go mclaren go! beat ferraris A**!!!:p

Hahahahaha!! U are mah BRUTHA and so is BIG CHIEF :laugh: :laugh:

[Big Chief]

Hahahahaha!! U are mah BRUTHA and so is BIG CHIEF :laugh: :laugh:

We are all BRUDHAS..!

[Big Chief]

Any comments on the McLaren qualifying pit stop issue between Alonso & Hamilton?

[LiLiaN]

i think it's a shame - so not in team spirit nor of fair competition...
and what with the whole spying row as well... quite disheartening really.... :(

[Big Chief]

I think it's all boiled down to ego & jealousy.

[LiLiaN]

indeed... hamilton has been with the team for years....
but alonso, he's the world champion holder wanting good prospect...
nobody wants to be upstaged by a talented rookie...
looking at the races this year, they've ever been won only by 4 drivers...

[Big Chief]

According to McLaren, Hamilton ignored orders from the pit lane to allow Alonso to pass in front of him.

[LiLiaN]

regardless of who was wrong in the first place, the fact is they should be working in team spirit and fair competition... this is just childish then, to go tit for tat and trying to up one on another... if you have problem with something, you're supposed to deal with it like an adult...

[LiLiaN]

ah all the trouble in mclaren's camp!
what a mess, and alonso/hamilton feud is not helping...
what do you guys think of the fine and penalties imposed..?

on the bright side, the last few races would be interesting...
the championship is really still up for grab to the top drivers...
go kimi go! go kimi go!

[justin hong]

I think the fine (100mil. Pound is it?) and the lost of constructor's championship points are fair regardless of whether the stolen ferrari data have contributed or not to the their current status. However to go as far as to suspend Mclaren to 2 years ban would be too harsh. Mclaren afterall have been in F1 for a long time and have contributed a lot to the motorsport, so FIA should consider that.

Ron Dennis yesterday made a statement to ferrari's lawyer that he's not on a cold war with Alonso since the Budepest GP. That is kinda childish coming from a Professional. They should have put personal feelings aside and work towards the team's goal. Everyone in Mclaren worked hard and they should not be "robbed" off their hard work just because of 2 individuals.

[jstanly]

Copy cat lost!! The red ferarri wins...

Kimi can make it...

[LiLiaN]

no no, nothing that crazy... it's 100 million dollars... and only stripping of constructor's point for this year... next year's up for review when the new car is produced...

i think things may be more complicated than we know, since there's report of alonso threatening to go to the governing authority with emails... and that's what prompt denis to go to mosley first ahead of alonso... something is definitely not right there....

yes, for pros not to talk to each other and feud so publicly, that's very childish... not sure now how long alonso will be staying in mclaren but as my cousin's bf said, he may be a good driver but lately what we see is that he's a bit of a loose canon - who dares to hire him next? he lacks the ability to be a team player...

[justin hong]

I think Renault is willing to take him back.

[Big Chief]

I think the fine (100mil. Pound is it?) and the lost of constructor's championship points are fair regardless of whether the stolen ferrari data have contributed or not to the their current status. However to go as far as to suspend Mclaren to 2 years ban would be too harsh. Mclaren afterall have been in F1 for a long time and have contributed a lot to the motorsport, so FIA should consider that.

To me I think it's not fair.
FIA obviously is on the other side of McLaren's camp.
To me, information stealing happens everywhere.
Too bad Ferrari employs people who are not loyal to them.
Just because McLaren is so far in front of them causes them to revert to sly techniques.
Ferrari did it before when only 6 cars were racing in US. They won and were very proud of their 18 points.
Bravo Ferrari.

Copy cat lost!! The red ferarri wins...

Kimi can make it...

Ya.
By McLaren's Default?
Ferrari fans can always be proud of it again, and again,,,

no no, nothing that crazy... it's 100 million dollars... and only stripping of constructor's point for this year... next year's up for review when the new car is produced...

i think things may be more complicated than we know, since there's report of alonso threatening to go to the governing authority with emails... and that's what prompt denis to go to mosley first ahead of alonso... something is definitely not right there....

yes, for pros not to talk to each other and feud so publicly, that's very childish... not sure now how long alonso will be staying in mclaren but as my cousin's bf said, he may be a good driver but lately what we see is that he's a bit of a loose canon - who dares to hire him next? he lacks the ability to be a team player...

Looking at things this year, I don't think McLaren would be interested in supporting FIA's F1 should their points be stripped off.

Alonso to me is definitely one of the best drivers in F1 in the current years.
He was world champion for 2 years (even beating Michael Shumacher) in a row with Renault and currently top 2 leading drivers, with McLaren.
McLaren was struggling with Kimi blowing uncountable engines and things changed when Alonso is behind the wheel.
Maybe Kimi sucks...?:eek:

ah all the trouble in mclaren's camp!
what a mess, and alonso/hamilton feud is not helping...
what do you guys think of the fine and penalties imposed..?

on the bright side, the last few races would be interesting...
the championship is really still up for grab to the top drivers...
go kimi go! go kimi go!

The fine & penalties are certainly not helping to promote the sport.

Kimi is a great dreamer. Oh yes, and an engine blower...:eek: :eek:

[LiLiaN]

hey, we're not here to playing slagging the driver, are we..? :crying: :crying:
(no fun, i go play somewhere else)

i do think the penalty is harsh, i just said it wasn't what justin thought it was...
especially in light i've yet to read anything concrete on the allegation...
and i have no intention of finding their documents and read them...
can someone from FIA just give us the finding in facts and numbers already!

[Big Chief]

The race is still on...

[jstanly]

The race is still on...

You mean for Kimi to take the first spot....

This is the Reds year.... :eek:

No place for copy cats....:p

[LiLiaN]

one step closer for hamilton after alonso crashed out....
and what's with ferrari not getting the tyre notification email..??
kimi could sooo have won if he didn't had to make extra pit stop for that...

[justin hong]

1st class sports and 3rd class communication tools.:laugh:

[Anson F-Clef]

The race is still on...

Controversy, controversy......Ferrari my B*TT leh!!! :mad:

[alfred98]

Controversy, controversy......Ferrari my B*TT leh!!! :mad:

Your b...t got ferrari chop on it issit????:p

[jstanly]

Your b...t got ferrari chop on it issit????:p

No lar, F-Clef is saying that he always wear red underwear on Race Day... :eek: :eek:

[justin hong]

Poor Lewis, gotta wait till the next race to decide if he can be the record world champ. Mc Laren shouldn't have made the simple mistake of calling in him late to the pit knowing that his tyres are already wearing thin.

Now Fernando and Kimi can smile.

[dcrusader]

Poor Lewis, gotta wait till the next race to decide if he can be the record world champ. Mc Laren shouldn't have made the simple mistake of calling in him late to the pit knowing that his tyres are already wearing thin.
Now Fernando and Kimi can smile.
he's just gotta wait for Interlagos in 2 weeks time..to lift the title
he spun out bcos of his ego...:noworry:
Lewis rammed on the throttle not once, but at least twice after Kimi had overtaken him... should have let him through earlier rather than put extra strain on those deteriorated tyres...too bad..
at least we can still look forward to Sao paulo for the finale!;)

[LiLiaN]

the past few days have been nothing but drama with F1...
what with the investigation of hamilton's driving in japan...
then this spinning out due to worn out tyres...
and the drivers championship closing in on one another...

two weeks from now, i'm going to be on a very weak heart...
what with the finale of the F1 season...
as well as the final of the rugby world cup...

[dcrusader]

the past few days have been nothing but drama with F1...
what with the investigation of hamilton's driving in japan...
then this spinning out due to worn out tyres...
and the drivers championship closing in on one another...

two weeks from now, i'm going to be on a very weak heart...
what with the finale of the F1 season...
as well as the final of the rugby world cup...

sis,here's some dapa-tabs to relieve your heart
>> hamilton & argentina will make it;)

[LiLiaN]

no no, it's kimi and france making it! :laugh:

[dcrusader]

no no, it's kimi and france making it! :laugh:
those are my second choices actually...lol;)
as long as south africa n alonso do not win, i got no qualms about it..:eek:

[LiLiaN]

i think it'll be tough for argentina to win against south africa...
the springboks may not be playing tight game yesterday...
but the pumas seem to be an exhausted team against scotland...
if they don't recover from such form, then the springboks will take over...

well, back to F1 though, alonso seem to be in better position to win than kimi...
but then again, kimi is a guy who doesn't give up and will keep on pushing...
so fingers cross that he'll do a great job in the next race!

[dcrusader]

i think it'll be tough for argentina to win against south africa...
the springboks may not be playing tight game yesterday...
but the pumas seem to be an exhausted team against scotland...
if they don't recover from such form, then the springboks will take over...

well, back to F1 though, alonso seem to be in better position to win than kimi...
but then again, kimi is a guy who doesn't give up and will keep on pushing...
so fingers cross that he'll do a great job in the next race!
the pumas have been impressive so far as a team,they've got the agility and most definitely the much needed determination..even against all the odds...:cool:
this time round it seems underdogs are having a meal in all the big games...so I say Argentina to send the Springboks back to Africa,then we will have a pleasant tactical game (rather than brute strenght for a change!) of finals against the much improved French connection..;)
Hamilton is definitely in the driving seat...he'll learn from his rookie mistake at China and snatch his maiden championship by gaining enough points..as for Alonso, i doubt his crew will be 'supportive' after his Judas :crying: act...
Massa to win at his home (if Kimi fades away from contention)! this guy really got speed!
See you at Interlagos in a fortnight time!

[LiLiaN]

i would love to see the pumas vs les bleus at the final...
they started the tournament, they'll end with one as winner...
and i'd so love for les bleus to kick ass as revenge... :laugh:

two weeks from now i'm going to be like a crazy woman...
that same day, the sunday of race day and rugby final...
i'm going to be in paris, going to a chocolate fair that morning...
then have lunch appointment as well as afternoon tea with a couple of friends...
race time at 6pm french time, while rugby 9pm french time...
i'm going to have the most insane day, ever!

[dcrusader]

i would love to see the pumas vs les bleus at the final...
that same day, the sunday of race day and rugby final...
i'm going to be in paris, going to a chocolate fair that morning...
then have lunch appointment as well as afternoon tea with a couple of friends...
race time at 6pm french time, while rugby 9pm french time...
i'm going to have the most insane day, ever!
hmm...french peas, french fries, french curves...french kiss:o ?
Paris....city of love...:)
but shouldn't you be at St-Denis to watch Sebastien 'Caveman' Cabal sweat instead?:rolleyes: lol

[LiLiaN]

well, paris in my home away from home in europe ;)
i go there often, and i have friends who live there...

i wish i can be in st denis but the tickets is out of price!
a friend of mine bought a ticket for the final at 750euro!!! :squeeze:
i'll wait till leinster play in dublin - go and see o'driscoll and contepomi... :D

[dcrusader]

bad news...just read that all your Frenchmen have bumps and bruises all over...hope they recover in time to stop Wilkinson's drop kick!:huh:
i hope Springboks can leap higher than Pumas...otherwise, St-Denis will be another killing field..:rolleyes:
enjoy Paris..........

[LiLiaN]

where did you read that? and everyone have bumps and bruises after matches...
i certainly will enjoy paris, thanks :)

[dcrusader]

www.rugbyworldcup.com
Paris..wish i were there too.....sigh...

[LiLiaN]

errr... i have been reading news from that site religiously...
hmmmm so i may have missed something along the way?
well, line up for this week's match is out for france...
chabal and michalak not in starting XV...

[Big Chief]

...as long as south africa n alonso do not win, i got no qualms about it..:eek:
Alonso is going to win! :mad:

well, back to F1 though, alonso seem to be in better position to win than kimi...
You are a true F1 fan! Lil...:blink:
And again, Alonso will WIN!....:D

[dcrusader]

Alonso is going to win! :mad:
D
I kum in pisse, Big Chief..
many moons to kum, alonso will bkum Champion!;)
smoke pisse pipe...no tlow tomahawk, ok?:)

[LiLiaN]

dcrusader rooting for hamilton...
while big chief rooting for alonso...
and me rooting for kimi...

may the best driver wins!

[elvin]

Go McLarennn..........errr....who is the driver ah?

[LiLiaN]

mclaren? hamilton and alonso...

[dcrusader]

dcrusader rooting for hamilton...
while big chief rooting for alonso...
and me rooting for kimi...

may the best driver wins!
lilian,
i am all for the fastest driver in Interlagos, whom might juz be Massa..:)
no special heart for Hamilton..but i juz think he will ultimately lift the Championship..
and i juz cant stand sore losers with multiple excuses..think you know who i am referring to:rolleyes: ...gotta take the agony of defeat in a constructive manner and build on it....lol

[Big Chief]

I kum in pisse, Big Chief..
many moons to kum, alonso will bkum Champion!;)
smoke pisse pipe...no tlow tomahawk, ok?:)
Big Chief smoke peace pipe with dcrusader. Cough! Cough!
dcrusader rooting for hamilton...
while big chief rooting for alonso...
and me rooting for kimi...

may the best driver wins!
...and smoke peace pipe together after that..
Go McLarennn..........errr....who is the driver ah?
Alonso..!
lilian,
i am all for the fastest driver in Interlagos, whom might juz be Massa..
no special heart for Hamilton..but i juz think he will ultimately lift the Championship..
and i juz cant stand sore losers with multiple excuses..think you know who i am referring to:rolleyes: ...gotta take the agony of defeat in a constructive manner and build on it....lol
:D

[dcrusader]

may the fastest and wittiest speed demon wins...:D

[Big Chief]

may the fastest and wittiest speed demon wins...:D

You are talking about Alonso..:eek:

[dcrusader]

You are talking about Alonso..:eek:

not again, BC.....:rolleyes:

[jstanly]

You are talking about Alonso..:eek:

Alonso sucks, Kimi will win... and paint the streets red again..

[lesley]

Well said, Stan! Hear Hear!!
Hope Ron Dennis sacks Alonso after Interlagos.
Go Iceman, Go Go Go!!

[Big Chief]

Well said, Stan! Hear Hear!!
Hope Ron Dennis sacks Alonso after Interlagos.
Go Iceman, Go Go Go!!
Why you so mean to BC? :crying:
Alonso sucks, Kimi will win... and paint the streets red again..
Fat hopes.
Lets see this weekend..:mad:

[lesley]

Originally Posted by Big Chief
Why you so mean to BC?:crying:


Awww...BC, don't cry...I'm not mean to BC...JUST BEING MEAN TO ALONSO!! Urgh. :squeeze:

I tot I disliked the German Sausage aka Michael Schumacher, but Alonso leaves a bad taste in the mouth...:sick:

Even if Iceman don't win, ANYONE but Alonso is preferable.
Go Hamilton GO!!

[Big Chief]

Awww...BC, don't cry...I'm not mean to BC...JUST BEING MEAN TO ALONSO!! Urgh. :squeeze:

I tot I disliked the German Sausage aka Michael Schumacher, but Alonso leaves a bad taste in the mouth...:sick:

Even if Iceman don't win, ANYONE but Alonso is preferable.
Go Hamilton GO!!

OK la..
For your sake,
Results:
1st Fernando
2nd Kimi
3rd Louis

This way, everyone safely finish race & on the podium.
Happy? :D

[dcrusader]

OK la..
For your sake,
Results:
1st Fernando
2nd Kimi
3rd Louis

This way, everyone safely finish race & on the podium.
Happy? :D

Wat about d local hero Massa??!!!
Made of plastic? grrrhh......

[LiLiaN]

massa is out of title running mah...

so bummed both france and argentina lost...
(ok, more bummed that france lost)

[cxtreme]

massa wins, everybody else dont get points...then hamilton will still win

or more interesting, we have a tie..then hamilston still wins(he has the most 1st rite)

[lesley]

Alonso is sore loser. Bitch on McClaren until FIA send spies. :mad:
Loyalty and sportmanship questionable. He should be kicked off the team and race with immediate effect.

Down with Alonso!!

[Big Chief]

Wat about d local hero Massa??!!!
Made of plastic? grrrhh......
4th
massa wins, everybody else dont get points...then hamilton will still win

or more interesting, we have a tie..then hamilston still wins(he has the most 1st rite)

OK for your sake:
1st Massa
2nd Alonso
3rd Kimi
4th Heidfield
5th Hamilton

Alonso is sore loser. Bitch on McClaren until FIA send spies. :mad:
Loyalty and sportmanship questionable. He should be kicked off the team and race with immediate effect.

Down with Alonso!!
Les, don be so kejam la..
Hamilton also did not follow pit stop instructions from team physician.

[lesley]

Me no likey Alonso. :sus:
Bad example of a World Champion.
Behaviour unbefitting of one!!
Yuk Yuk Yuk!

[Big Chief]

:crying: ...Sob!...Sob!... :crying:

[dcrusader]

Send the Apaches, BC! ;)

[LiLiaN]

Alonso is sore loser. Bitch on McClaren until FIA send spies. :mad:
Loyalty and sportmanship questionable. He should be kicked off the team and race with immediate effect.

Down with Alonso!!
i agree with that to some extent but if there's no misdeed, then there should be no reason for mcclaren to worry about the bitchings... so obviously something is not going right, and unfortunately it was used a leverage in internal politics...

[daBoss]

must be alonso's face... one of those yong soi types... :)

[JC]

Me no likey Alonso.
Bad example of a World Champion.
Behaviour unbefitting of one!!
Yuk Yuk Yuk!
Me support Lesley... phhffttt to Alonso... :p

Hamilton should win & create F1 history... just like Disney Cars cartoon... hehehe ;)

[dcrusader]

i agree with that to some extent but if there's no misdeed, then there should be no reason for mcclaren to worry about the bitchings... so obviously something is not going right, and unfortunately it was used a leverage in internal politics...
wat you reckon,LiLiaN? Les Blues can avenge on their earlier defeat to Pumas?:huh:
Springboks to hop all over Wilkinson & gang??

[Odysseus]

Alonso is going to win Brazil race and the Championship :)

[dcrusader]

the Iceman did it! Against all odds and with a little help from the local boy!
what a twist to the saga!:cool:

[lesley]

yea-yea!
Kimi won the race and the championship!!:laugh: :laugh:


Originally by JC
Me support Lesley... phhffttt to Alonso...

Hamilton should win & create F1 history... just like Disney Cars cartoon... hehehe

Originally by daBoss
must be alonso's face... one of those yong soi types...

Mua-ha-ha-ha. Glad to see that I was not the only "prejudiced" one...

[Odysseus]

yea-yea!
Kimi won the race and the championship!!:laugh: :laugh:





Mua-ha-ha-ha. Glad to see that I was not the only "prejudiced" one...
He was lucky that Hamilton's car went crazy at Lap 7. Else, no chance. Actually, FIA should start investigation on Ferrari team order that help Kimi scoring the maximum score. I believe team order is illegal in FIA rule.

[Big Chief]

Alonso is going to win Brazil race and the Championship
He lost la...
the Iceman did it! Against all odds and with a little help from the local boy!
what a twist to the saga!
Fluke..:eek:
He was lucky that Hamilton's car went crazy at Lap 7. Else, no chance. Actually, FIA should start investigation on Ferrari team order that help Kimi scoring the maximum score. I believe team order is illegal in FIA rule.
Ody, isn't it obvious that the FIA is controlled by the 'Italian Mafias'?
Let them have it this year.
Next year different story...

[daBoss]

woooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooo!!! back to ferrari! well done kimi!!!

[LiLiaN]

whoa.... amazing win by kimi... i am soooooooooo proud of him!!

on the rugby note, france/argentina match, the pumas so deserve to win...
very disappointed with the level of play that evening, that i lost appetite (i was having dinner)...

[dcrusader]

whoa.... amazing win by kimi... i am soooooooooo proud of him!!

on the rugby note, france/argentina match, the pumas so deserve to win...
very disappointed with the level of play that evening, that i lost appetite (i was having dinner)...

agree totally with you, Lilian...Pumas were awesome and a very spirited performance! good game to watch!:)

on the contrary,the Final was a total bore..I think the English defensive tactics will not make this a spectator game in future! :mad: