Pickup Truck

[yee keong]

Been looking around pickup-trucks lately. Apparently, they have evolved from being a jungle/construction yard type of vehicles to something more on-road, more like SUVs but with better fuel consumption (diesel) and much cheaper to boot.

A few that starting to look more like SUV instead of pickups, Toyota Hilux (new ones) and Mitsubishi Triton. Isuzu D-max and Nissan Frontiers are worth mentioning also.

Anyone has any experience with them? The only setback is their roadtax though. However, with the Government cutting 50% on green diesel engines, a 2.5l will cost RM 1000 in road tax, while a 3.0l will cost RM 2000. compare to your car, fuel saving could more than cover your increase in road tax. of course, servicing each time is more costly, about RM 200-250, but some makes requires you to service every 10000km. Isuzu D-max apparently uses a timing gear, as oppose to timing belt/chain, thus does not require to change every 80000km as most other vehicles.

The fuel consumption is something really funny. I would have expected a 4wd pickup consumption to be more or at least equal a SUV, but surprisingly, better than your average proton. isuzu d-max clocked 1400km on 76 litres of diesel. this is certified by a MAA staff. comes up to about RM0.085/km. considering it a long distance driving, give it RM0.10/km also better than your Wira of RM0.15/0.16 per km, or Waja of RM0/17/0.18 per km.

Care to comment?

[Voon Chan]

Yee Keong, I must agree with what you have written.
My choice is Nissan Frontier.
I know it does not look as nice as the rest & it is has manual gears.
But it is very reliable and it has bigger & more comfortable passenger seats.
Look out for a potential new Frontier, it has more power.

One positive aspect Frontier, it is not the target of car thief.

As for Isuzu, I have no knowledge of that car.

[Fishingman]

Drive a Ranger from time to time, powerful truck but I would want to go long distance with it. Suspension too stiff for a comfortable ride.

[justin hong]

The pick-ups were used by yuppies after the launch of Mitsubishi Storm. It got better, in terms of looks and comfort, when the Hilux came about. Pick-ups does have better fuel consumption as compare to SUV and the maintenance is much less than any other type of vechicle (if you are using the diesel engine).
As for cost of servicing, you gotta compare it with another vechicle of the same cc, then you can see the cost savings. Parts prices and availability will largely depend on the make of the pick-ups. E.g Isuzu parts tends to be more expensive then Mitsubishi.
Diesel engine these days are almost as quiet as petrol engine and more durable too. Does not need to warm up before starting and are very powerful. With its green engine, it actually does not emit dark smoke but because of the quality of diesel in Malaysia, you actually cannot help it.The Frontier can easily hits 180km/h on the highway. In that speed, stability is good considering the height of the vechicle.
Those that have not driven a pick-up before might find the suspension a bit hard, due mostly to the lip spring as opposed to normal springs and absorbers at the rear. But after having one, I can almost bet you'll never want to drive a normal car again. Thanks to its height, size and the ease of going through floods and pot holes.:D + also parking on the curb whenever there are no parking spaces available.
One caution after buying one, fix some good tracking system alarm. Pick-ups like Mitsubishi and Toyota Hilux are top on the stolen vechicle list.

[yee keong]

Justin, you drive a pickup? i would like to know more about the maintenance. which one are you driving now? i would say that the pickup craze started with the ranger, and the storm came in and blow it up. however, the latest is definitely from the toyota hilux. blowing up a pretty storm really. 4-5 months waiting period, and i heard they are making 800-1000 monthly. and mitsu triton are expecting only about 150 monthly.

[justin hong]

Justin, you drive a pickup? i would like to know more about the maintenance. which one are you driving now? i would say that the pickup craze started with the ranger, and the storm came in and blow it up. however, the latest is definitely from the toyota hilux. blowing up a pretty storm really. 4-5 months waiting period, and i heard they are making 800-1000 monthly. and mitsu triton are expecting only about 150 monthly.

Used to own a Hilux. Drove for 2 months, had my side window smashed and my working bag stolen. A further 2 months later, had the whole vechicle stolen from inside my apartment.:mad:

Maintenance wasn't so much as it was still under warranty. Just the usual oil and filter change with no labour charge. Durable engine. I even took it for a semi-hard-core off road but couldn't reach our camp site as it's not equipped with wrinch, off road tyres and suspensions. That pick-up can even do drift on the tarmac. Really comfortable and spacious inside with the rear seats having a lean angle for rear passengers' comfort during long journey. Hilux is currently the only pick-up model with this features. Others, even the Triton have an almost vertical rear back seat. Hilux clutch is light (even ladies find it an ease to drive) and the traction is good.

There's no waiting list for the Hilux now just demand from car jackers! If you're into SUV, there'll be a new 3000cc model launching soon. I had a sneak preview, just like the Triton 3 months before it was launch, but they are not telling us the make. From the pictures provided for us, it's either a Nissan, Toyota or Isuzu.

[yee keong]

i heard that Ford is coming out with a new Ranger. but if it's 3.0l, could be the toyota hilux 3.0 which has been around in thailand for quite sometime.

still into the Triton though. most likely to buy it, unless something else change my mind. going for a test drive next week!

[Anson F-Clef]

Wats the name of that Toyota new SUV??

Used to own a Hilux. Drove for 2 months, had my side window smashed and my working bag stolen. A further 2 months later, had the whole vechicle stolen from inside my apartment.:mad:

Maintenance wasn't so much as it was still under warranty. Just the usual oil and filter change with no labour charge. Durable engine. I even took it for a semi-hard-core off road but couldn't reach our camp site as it's not equipped with wrinch, off road tyres and suspensions. That pick-up can even do drift on the tarmac. Really comfortable and spacious inside with the rear seats having a lean angle for rear passengers' comfort during long journey. Hilux is currently the only pick-up model with this features. Others, even the Triton have an almost vertical rear back seat. Hilux clutch is light (even ladies find it an ease to drive) and the traction is good.

There's no waiting list for the Hilux now just demand from car jackers! If you're into SUV, there'll be a new 3000cc model launching soon. I had a sneak preview, just like the Triton 3 months before it was launch, but they are not telling us the make. From the pictures provided for us, it's either a Nissan, Toyota or Isuzu.

[justin hong]

Toyota Fortuner. Lots of problems with brakes and stability. Not worth buying. Triton is nice generally except for its rear end, doesn't look tough nor does it match the front.

[Anson F-Clef]

Patience bro - now that the Kembara the gas guzzler is what u hv to use, better save up and get a petrol saver leh! BTW Nissan Frontier onli 2.5 engine izit?

Toyota Fortuner. Lots of problems with brakes and stability. Not worth buying. Triton is nice generally except for its rear end, doesn't look tough nor does it match the front.

[justin hong]

Boss asked me whether I want another Hilux and without thinking I said "no thanks". So, ask me to choose between CRV, Pajero, Prado or X-trail.

[WitchKing]

......Sorento?

[Fishingman]

I also find that the ranger kinda feels unstable during cornering especially when you're going fast. Skidded once in it and now don't dare go fast liau, but on the height of the car, dem chun man!

[justin hong]

Fuel guzzler, no resale value, not tough enough for my liking.:D

[kamkuey]

Kyron?

[yee keong]

i guess you better wait for the new frontier then. called navarra in US. supposedly to be 174bhp, as compared to the Triton 136bhp, which is best currently. mazda will be coming up with one also.

the 3.0l hilux is supposedly to be coming with intercooler, which is expected to increase the horsepower by quite a bit, as the current hilux is underpowered, considering it's cabin size. not many mind though, as can pass off nicely as a fortuner if the canopy is done nicely.

[justin hong]

Thanks for the info yee keong. But my boss gonna get me a 2nd hand vehicle. Hopefully not too old.:D

[yee keong]

booked my Triton. grey mica as white will be only be out end Feb. grey mica is second choice colour. would have loved a white. should be getting my car (or rather, truck) end Jan.

[justin hong]

Congratulations yee keong. Enjoy your new ride and let us know how's the pick up overall.

[alfred98]

Wah! Triton cool!!! Looks great!! Can get the car so fast???? Way to go!!:D

[yee keong]

will post some pics once i get it and let you know about the ride. will be using it for work very often.

[yee keong]

getting my truck tomorrow evening. woo hoo!

[justin hong]

Post loads of pictures here.

[yee keong]

here goes!

the front!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4904.jpg

close up

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4912.jpg

front side

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4905.jpg

back side

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4907.jpg

[alfred98]

Woi!! Nice piece!!! Way to go!!!:)

[yee keong]

more to come, uploading to photobucket....interior pics

[yee keong]

the 3 diamond steering wheel

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4894.jpg

the panels

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4895.jpg

off the shelf Kenwood CD/MP3 player

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4921.jpg

auto air con

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4922.jpg

[yee keong]

RV meter - el cheapo, the plastic still there :p

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4918.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4919.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4920.jpg

[yee keong]

from driver side

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4917.jpg

from the other side

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4913.jpg

sun glass holder

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4924.jpg

arm rest

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4901.jpg

[alfred98]

Hei!! Frend...today is 20/01/2007 lah!!!:D

[yee keong]

haha, set the damn thing wrong...ok will go reset it....malunya

[LiLiaN]

wow, that is one very swanky pickup truck! :amazed:

[SS2006]

Wow YK, that's a real nice piece of ride

[yee keong]

thanks! does change ppl's perception of what a pickup truck is, doesnt it? even my dad was surprise when i told him i wanted to buy a pickup. and of course, friends are like, what? what kind of sales are you doing that you will need to use a pickup?

to me, it serves like a car or rather 4wd type of vehicle. (it is 4wd, hehe), but with an extra cargo bed at the back. well, the cargo bed at the bed is the thing that helped reduce the tax for importing the truck in, as compared to pajeros or cars, as it's considered commercial vehicle. looking good so far. rained today, so got to test the car, or rather truck in the rain.

[justin hong]

Nice ride yee keong and nice choice of color. Remind me so much of my Hilux.:( Go try out the 4x4. The front lamps really look like the eyes of the storm trooper from star wars. Definately a yuppie ride.

[yee keong]

yup, but the light are actually copying the pajero from their Dakar Rally. how to really test the 4x4? so far only got road. can feel the difference meh?

not getting the car for tough off road action, and yuppie is the word to describe it. :)

[Oddfather]

yup, but the light are actually copying the pajero from their Dakar Rally. how to really test the 4x4? so far only got road. can feel the difference meh?

not getting the car for tough off road action, and yuppie is the word to describe it. :)

go look for a housing development site and engage into 4WS and go onto the site. Feel the power. :)

[justin hong]

go look for a housing development site and engage into 4WS and go onto the site. Feel the power. :)

Yes oddpapa's right. Get the full potential out of that car. If not, it's like owning a Ferrari but always drives at 80km/h. It's a real adrenalin rush getting a feel of the 4x4 at work. Put in normal drive first before engaging 4x4on the same surface / condition, then you'll feel the defference.

[Chris C]

thanks! does change ppl's perception of what a pickup truck is, doesnt it? even my dad was surprise when i told him i wanted to buy a pickup. and of course, friends are like, what? what kind of sales are you doing that you will need to use a pickup?

to me, it serves like a car or rather 4wd type of vehicle. (it is 4wd, hehe), but with an extra cargo bed at the back. well, the cargo bed at the bed is the thing that helped reduce the tax for importing the truck in, as compared to pajeros or cars, as it's considered commercial vehicle. looking good so far. rained today, so got to test the car, or rather truck in the rain.

.....to pickup the hot gals????:cheesy: :D

[yee keong]

haha, i din even think of that, but that does give me an idea....hehehe :sus:

drove around town today. even went up this bukit genting in teluk kumbar. not bad, engage 4wd but still cannot feel much difference, although can feel that the car more 'kuat' when go up the hill la. slope is about 25-30 degrees, while coming down is about 30-40 degrees. some place go up go about 40-45 degrees. maybe still new car kua, dun dare to rev pass 2500rpm

[justin hong]

You won't feel much of a difference testing going uphill especially on laterite road because the pick up itself is powerful enough going up with 2 wheels. Try on muddy or sandy surface then you'll FEELLLLLLLLLLLLL :D

[athena]

:laugh: my brother's a P driver.....die lor..sure kena honk when bek in KL!!!!

[WitchKing]

here goes!

the front!



close up



front side

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/yeekeong/DSCF4905.jpg

back side



Niiiiiiice, me likey....getting gatal oledi, have the brochure sitting in my car as we speak.......

[alfred98]

Most of the 4WD car owner didn't even know how to engaged the 4WD option and some don't even know the 4WD already rosak!!!:squeeze:

[justin hong]

Modified to look like this.................
http://usera.imagecave.com/superknight/CARS/MitsubishiParisDakarfront.JPG

[yee keong]

P driver but big car, time to honk ppl liao. must remember to put my kendo stick in the damn car just in case meet road bully.

[yee keong]

power memang ada lah, especially at their peak torque at 2000rpm. 5th gear also jalan damn kuat. 80kmh to 100kmh dun even feel it, or naik bukit using 4th gear and overtake vios :P

[Voon Chan]

"P" is for Professional or Probation?

[Fishingman]

Digging up an old thread, I'm also thinking of getting a truck now. Probably need the space for carrying my barang.
Thinking of getting a Ranger or maybe a Isuzu D-Max 2.5L and put a canopy over the back. Any one here got experience you'll like to share? I don't need it for heavy use coz my barang just bulky and not really heavy. I'm thinking more of the D-Max due to the lower fuel consumption.

[datokuan]

Digging up an old thread, I'm also thinking of getting a truck now. Probably need the space for carrying my barang.
Thinking of getting a Ranger or maybe a Isuzu D-Max 2.5L and put a canopy over the back. Any one here got experience you'll like to share? I don't need it for heavy use coz my barang just bulky and not really heavy. I'm thinking more of the D-Max due to the lower fuel consumption.

I don't know what you call these in Malaysia, but based on your specifcations, I suggest that u get a twin cab with a turtle top for keeping your barang barang. Diesel driven has more power but you need to get larger CC.

[Fishingman]

I don't know what you call these in Malaysia, but based on your specifcations, I suggest that u get a twin cab with a turtle top for keeping your barang barang. Diesel driven has more power but you need to get larger CC.

I think it's the same thing. :)

[datokuan]

I have a fleet of pick up truck in my factory. Based on the performance and engine durability, I will go for Ford or Toyota made. I have two Isuzu for 4 years and one of the kena change a whole new engine last year, only after making 140K.

[justin hong]

FM, can call me if you need further info about pick ups as I did some testing for NST's Cars, Bikes and Trucks.

[Fishingman]

FM, can call me if you need further info about pick ups as I did some testing for NST's Cars, Bikes and Trucks.

Fuah! Just the guy need to sit down and have teh tarik with. Will call you for an appointment next week. Tomorrow going to visit hot mama in CH. :)

[datokuan]

Fuah! Just the guy need to sit down and have teh tarik with. Will call you for an appointment next week. Tomorrow going to visit hot mama in CH. :)

remember to take pic of the hot mama in CH to stick here....:p

[Chris C]

remember to take pic of the hot mama in CH to stick here....:p
Why u want to make the members go :sick: with my pics?
Have pity on them lah.......:p

[LaoZhang]

Why u want to make the members go :sick: with my pics?
Have pity on them lah.......:p


LZ for one would much prefers the various views of the hot mama rather than those of the latest hot SUV, hot pickup models.. :p:laugh:

[datokuan]

Why u want to make the members go :sick: with my pics?
Have pity on them lah.......:p

wow...... u r the hot mama, tkc, wat else?? NO worry about members go :sick:... there r manay loktors in our Forum to share their expertise......so just show lar....actually I missed the opportunity to yak with u on the 31/8 as so many pple to catch up..and so many pple want to talk.... I will do it very soon... so.... pls.. pls... show the pics.....


LZ for one would much prefers the various views of the hot mama rather than those of the latest hot SUV, hot pickup models..

100 and 10 % sokong.....

[Chris C]

:laugh:....soli, no pics of me taken by Fishingman this morning
so it's back to trucks and models that makes u guys salivate.....:p

[kwimango]

remember to take pic of the hot mama in CH to stick here....:p

Why u want to make the members go :sick: with my pics?
Have pity on them lah.......:p

take pic of hot mama with her nice yellow truck also leh!!!

[Chris C]

take pic of hot mama with her nice yellow truck also leh!!!

kenot.....still haven't bought meself a pair of yallow lubber boots
to complete the pic......:p

[datokuan]

kenot.....still haven't bought meself a pair of yallow lubber boots
to complete the pic......:p

easy lar to get one... charge Forum a pair of yellow bots as entrance fee to CH.... wat size ar?:)

[yee keong]

Fishingman, if you jsut need a truck for carrying stuffs, and yet you want car comfort, try test drive the Actyon 2.0. engine is 2litres, save in road tax by almost half, RM900 vs RM500, and the suspension is coil spring, unlike leaf spring as installed in most trucks. problem is, the front mouth looks like a whale opening mouth. also, i dont think it can carry goods up to 1ton. mine is a truck, that is more sporty type, since it;s Mitsu. if you want truck look, then go for Hilux or Dmax. Dmax is most cost fuel efficient, and Hilux is best resale value. for pwer, ranger or b50. really depends on what you use it for, but if you carry light stuffs, and car like comfort, actyon win hands down. still, the whale opening mouth....

[Fishingman]

Fishingman, if you jsut need a truck for carrying stuffs, and yet you want car comfort, try test drive the Actyon 2.0. engine is 2litres, save in road tax by almost half, RM900 vs RM500, and the suspension is coil spring, unlike leaf spring as installed in most trucks. problem is, the front mouth looks like a whale opening mouth. also, i dont think it can carry goods up to 1ton. mine is a truck, that is more sporty type, since it;s Mitsu. if you want truck look, then go for Hilux or Dmax. Dmax is most cost fuel efficient, and Hilux is best resale value. for pwer, ranger or b50. really depends on what you use it for, but if you carry light stuffs, and car like comfort, actyon win hands down. still, the whale opening mouth....

Thanks Yee Keong,
I don't think I wanna drive the whale shark around, mouth too big liau like wanna telan someone only. Hahaha and also for the same price I would have probably got a Triton or a Hilux anyway. Btw, did you put a canopy for your back? Saw a model of canopy for Triton that looks downright cun man!

Most probably looking at the 2.5L DMax due to the FC and also space to carry barang. My barang just bulky and not heavy so I guess no need extra extra power one lah. Probably just around 100 kilo of barang at a time only, probably less. But the road tax part is the part that makes me think twice-lah, 900 or somewhere there if not mistaken for DMax 2.5L. Don't really dare to consider buying Hilux or Triton due to their popularity with the thiefs and carjackers as well. Somemore I will part it at roadside coz I stay in shophouse so don't wanna wake up in the morning to find the car gone.

[Fishingman]

:laugh:....soli, no pics of me taken by Fishingman this morning
so it's back to trucks and models that makes u guys salivate.....:p

I wanted to but she dont want wor.... got so many bangla bodyguard somemore where got dare take her pic. Nanti I end up as fertiliser for the flower-lah. :laugh: Btw, the farm visit was amazing! Never have I seen so many types of crysantenums in my life. And some of the varieties are really beautiful. :cool:

[justin hong]

I wanted to but she dont want wor.... got so many bangla bodyguard somemore where got dare take her pic. Nanti I end up as fertiliser for the flower-lah. :laugh: Btw, the farm visit was amazing! Never have I seen so many types of crysantenums in my life. And some of the varieties are really beautiful. :cool:

Aunty didn't treat you to Habanero meh?:D

[Fishingman]

Aunty didn't treat you to Habanero meh?:D

Got some from her. You want some? :p

[datokuan]

I wanted to but she dont want wor.... got so many bangla bodyguard somemore where got dare take her pic. Nanti I end up as fertiliser for the flower-lah. :laugh: Btw, the farm visit was amazing! Never have I seen so many types of crysantenums in my life. And some of the varieties are really beautiful. ::

why she dun wan? Tat day got bad hairdo, izzit? U r very wise to consider the bangla bodyguards around her.:p:p

[justin hong]

Got some from her. You want some? :p

Can.....wanna burn the ass off some people who like to boost that they are great chilli eaters.:laugh:

[Chris C]

Can.....wanna burn the ass off some people who like to boost that they are great chilli eaters.:laugh:

Still remember u telling me your first time experience with habaneros. :laugh:

[kwimango]

Still remember u telling me your first time experience with habaneros. :laugh:

did he suffer the same fate as your bangla that had to jump nekkid into the pond?

[Chris C]

did he suffer the same fate as your bangla that had to jump nekkid into the pond?

:laugh:......he was warned ahead.....:D...what about u kwi? How
did it taste to u?

[kwimango]

:laugh:......he was warned ahead.....:D...what about u kwi? How did it taste to u?

Hot, my entire family shared one biji

[LaoZhang]

Still remember u telling me your first time experience with habaneros. :laugh:


First time this old ginger hear of this plant !!
Learn something new today !! :laugh:

Got pic ah... sounds like mexican chilli !??

[datokuan]

First time this old ginger hear of this plant !!
Learn something new today !! :laugh:

Got pic ah... sounds like mexican chilli !??

now u noe why she is a hot mama....:p:p

[yee keong]

Thanks Yee Keong,
I don't think I wanna drive the whale shark around, mouth too big liau like wanna telan someone only. Hahaha and also for the same price I would have probably got a Triton or a Hilux anyway. Btw, did you put a canopy for your back? Saw a model of canopy for Triton that looks downright cun man!

Most probably looking at the 2.5L DMax due to the FC and also space to carry barang. My barang just bulky and not heavy so I guess no need extra extra power one lah. Probably just around 100 kilo of barang at a time only, probably less. But the road tax part is the part that makes me think twice-lah, 900 or somewhere there if not mistaken for DMax 2.5L. Don't really dare to consider buying Hilux or Triton due to their popularity with the thiefs and carjackers as well. Somemore I will part it at roadside coz I stay in shophouse so don't wanna wake up in the morning to find the car gone.

haha, didnt know they are stealing a lot of Tritons now. i know Hilux is really hotcakes due to the re-sale value, which is one of the reasons why i din buy a hilux.

i have yet to put a canopy, but i think i will skip it and install a sports lid on it. looks more modern and not so uncle :P

[Chris C]

First time this old ginger hear of this plant !!
Learn something new today !! :laugh:

Got pic ah... sounds like mexican chilli !??

Guys, sorry for serong-ing this thread again. For LZ,
here it is, post 88# :- Habaneros ("http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5550&highlight=habaneros&page=9)
Any talks about it, please continue there to avoid more off track talks.:)

[Fishingman]

haha, didnt know they are stealing a lot of Tritons now. i know Hilux is really hotcakes due to the re-sale value, which is one of the reasons why i din buy a hilux.

i have yet to put a canopy, but i think i will skip it and install a sports lid on it. looks more modern and not so uncle :P

Hey!!! What you trying to say here? :huh: ok lah ok lah I admit I've reach the uncle stage-lah..... so sad.....:( hahaha

[yee keong]

hey, if i end up taking the canopy, dont say i uncle pls!! but do check out some sports lids. you may find that it's more useful, since it does conceal what you put inside, unlike canopies. to me, it's like a big boot. now, there's no boot and if go travelling with 4 ppl, have to put some luggage at the back. rain got problem :(

[alfred98]

hey, if i end up taking the canopy, dont say i uncle pls!! but do check out some sports lids. you may find that it's more useful, since it does conceal what you put inside, unlike canopies. to me, it's like a big boot. now, there's no boot and if go travelling with 4 ppl, have to put some luggage at the back. rain got problem :(

Uncle!!! :laugh::laugh: