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piglet
12-19-2004, 01:53 AM
Is it possible?

KoChun
12-19-2004, 01:54 AM
Certainly YES.

piglet
12-19-2004, 01:57 AM
Certainly YES.

Y not become couple since they can become best of friend?

daLady
12-19-2004, 02:01 AM
Is it possible?

If best friend as in someone I could share my deepest thoughts with..then I never had a guy best friend before...so don't know.

But I do know of many cases where one of them eventually fall for the other so the friendship becomes awkward already...and eventually drift apart.

Now that I'm married, I think your best friend should be your spouse, your soulmate.

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:01 AM
One is too fat??

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:02 AM
One is too fat??

What do mean?

KoChun
12-19-2004, 02:03 AM
Friendship and Love are two different things. Some people are meant to be friends, not life partners.

Even dogs and cats (traditional enemies) can become friends.

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:05 AM
Friendship and Love are two different things. Some people are meant to be friends, not life partners.

Even dogs and cats (traditional enemies) can become friends.

Friendship eventually developed into LOVE.

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:05 AM
What do mean?

Physically, they may not look good to each other. But internally, they match.

KoChun
12-19-2004, 02:07 AM
Friendship eventually developed into LOVE.

Not all friendship developed into Love. You have so many friends, do you have special feelings (love) for all of them, dear Piglet?

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:08 AM
Not all friendship developed into Love. You have so many friends, do you have special feelings (love) for all of them, dear Piglet?

KOCHUN, u can have only one best friend and many good friends.
Only ONE!

KoChun
12-19-2004, 02:10 AM
KOCHUN, u can have only one best friend and many good friends.
Only ONE!

I have many friends, many good friends, some best friends and a handful of Bestest friends.

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:10 AM
KOCHUN, u can have only one best friend and many good friends.
Only ONE!

Piglet, the world is grey. Not black and white. Therefor, the possibilities are endless.

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:12 AM
Physically, they may not look good to each other. But internally, they match.

Why must physical and internal must match? Internal match is more important thn physical match rite?

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:13 AM
Why must physical and internal must match? Internal match is more important thn physical match rite?

True.....thats why they can be best friends and not marry.

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:13 AM
Piglet, the world is grey. Not black and white. Therefor, the possibilities are endless.

Ur best friend is normally ur soulmate, and it's not easy find a soulmate.
The world is round.

daLady
12-19-2004, 02:15 AM
Not all friendship developed into Love. You have so many friends, do you have special feelings (love) for all of them, dear Piglet?

Don't think she mean normal friendslah....talking about very close friends....

Piglet..maybe you can define what you mean by best friend?

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:15 AM
I have many friends, many good friends, some best friends and a handful of Bestest friends.

U have so many friends...but out of so many friends, how many really understand u ?

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:16 AM
Ur best friend is normally ur soulmate, and it's not easy find a soulmate.
The world is round.

What if your bestfriend is a girl? and you are a girl? Are you going to marry her because she is your soulmate?

The world is round and grey.

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:16 AM
Don't think she mean normal friendslah....talking about very close friends....

Piglet..maybe you can define what you mean by best friend?

Best Friend .. can be soulmate...

piglet
12-19-2004, 02:18 AM
What if your bestfriend is a girl? and you are a girl? Are you going to marry her because she is your soulmate?

The world is round and grey.

Dino, we're talking about guy and gal .. can they become best friend, not girl and girl best friend..

Girl and girl .. definitely possible to become best friend..

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:19 AM
Best Friend .. can be soulmate...

Then to make this more interesting
Can a girl/girl or boy/boy be soulmates?

Dino
12-19-2004, 02:21 AM
Dino, we're talking about guy and gal .. can they become best friend, not girl and girl best friend..

Girl and girl .. definitely possible to become best friend..

If girl and girl can, then its always possible vice versa.

song cm
12-19-2004, 04:00 AM
Hey...this question was tested in the movie When Harry Meet Sally and the answer is NO.

Personally, I do feel dat it would be difficult for a man n woman to become best friends becoz of the physical aspects. It would be difficult for them to prevent the physical thingy unless they are not physically attracted to each other (like in Dino's analysis) or the man is gay......

But there is a possibility but it would be pretty remote. Worst still, if either one of the best friends is married, how would their better half accept this form of relationship?

KoChun
12-19-2004, 12:22 PM
I think I agree with daLady's point. Ultimately, your life partner should be your Best Friend.

Therefore, the question is irrelevant because your Best Friend is already your Love.

piglet
12-19-2004, 11:59 PM
I think I agree with daLady's point. Ultimately, your life partner should be your Best Friend.

Therefore, the question is irrelevant because your Best Friend is already your Love.

What about those that do not have life partner?

KoChun
12-20-2004, 12:01 AM
What about those that do not have life partner?

Haiyah, still got Pooh and Friends mah :)

piglet
12-20-2004, 12:04 AM
Haiyah, still got Pooh and Friends mah :)

:) let's go to Disneyland

piglet
12-20-2004, 12:06 AM
Hey...this question was tested in the movie When Harry Meet Sally and the answer is NO.

Personally, I do feel dat it would be difficult for a man n woman to become best friends becoz of the physical aspects. It would be difficult for them to prevent the physical thingy unless they are not physically attracted to each other (like in Dino's analysis) or the man is gay......

But there is a possibility but it would be pretty remote. Worst still, if either one of the best friends is married, how would their better half accept this form of relationship?

Even the guy is gay or the gal is a leb, he/she might be a bisexual.

song cm
12-20-2004, 12:35 AM
Even the guy is gay or the gal is a leb, he/she might be a bisexual.

If the guy is 100% gay, then it would be easier to hv a plutonic r/s with a woman but if bi, then the pysical thingy would be a concern.

Wat abt u? Do u think it is possible?

piglet
12-20-2004, 12:47 AM
If the guy is 100% gay, then it would be easier to hv a plutonic r/s with a woman but if bi, then the pysical thingy would be a concern.

Wat abt u? Do u think it is possible?

I don't think it's possible. To be honest, if a friendship between a guy and girl could reach to this extend, don't tell me tht you do not have the slightest feeling for ur friend?

song cm
12-20-2004, 12:51 AM
I don't think it's possible. To be honest, if a friendship between a guy and girl could reach to this extend, don't tell me tht you do not have the slightest feeling for ur friend?

I totally agree with you. The feelings thingy can be very tricky......esp when they start spending too much time together. Of course unless is a cyber pal in which they have not met in person....So the question is can your cyber pal be your best friend without meeting him/her in person?

piglet
12-20-2004, 12:55 AM
I totally agree with you. The feelings thingy can be very tricky......esp when they start spending too much time together. Of course unless is a cyber pal in which they have not met in person....So the question is can your cyber pal be your best friend without meeting him/her in person?

I do not have a cyber pal, but I don't think a cyberpal can be ur best friend. Cyberpal is just a virtual thing.. U will not know how this cyberpal real feeling by just looking at the words tht he/she type.
We're still human, sense of touch, smell, sound are still v important.

song cm
12-20-2004, 01:00 AM
I do not have a cyber pal, but I don't think a cyberpal can be ur best friend. Cyberpal is just a virtual thing.. U will not know how this cyberpal real feeling by just looking at the words tht he/she type.
We're still human, sense of touch, smell, sound are still v important.

I guess if one has a cyberpal, ultimately there is always a desire to meet up.
So, are u asking these questions due on certain real life situations that u r facing? :D or is it jus an innocent question?

piglet
12-20-2004, 01:02 AM
I guess if one has a cyberpal, ultimately there is always a desire to meet up.
So, are u asking these questions due on certain real life situations that u r facing? :D or is it jus an innocent question?

wat do u think :) If real life situation, I will not be asking u.

piglet
12-20-2004, 01:03 AM
I guess if one has a cyberpal, ultimately there is always a desire to meet up.
So, are u asking these questions due on certain real life situations that u r facing? :D or is it jus an innocent question?

U have a cyberpal before?

song cm
12-20-2004, 01:05 AM
U have a cyberpal before?

not really...

song cm
12-20-2004, 01:06 AM
wat do u think :) If real life situation, I will not be asking u.

hmm...I am not too sure abt this.... :)

piglet
12-20-2004, 01:07 AM
not really...

Not really, means havelar!...So have u met ur cyberpal before?

song cm
12-20-2004, 01:11 AM
Not really, means havelar!...So have u met ur cyberpal before?

Apa ini.....interogation ar....
I will choose my rights to remain silent.... :)

piglet
12-20-2004, 01:13 AM
Apa ini.....interogation ar....
I will choose my rights to remain silent.... :)

As you wish :) u have all the rights

ausman
12-20-2004, 08:41 AM
It a very interesting arguments.... I personally had a soulmate during my uni days. she was a very interesting gal (beautiful and sexy) and attached on long distant relationships. we had a lot of time together. even travel together for holiday.... too. but then we didn't end up anywhere near marriage.
we share our joy, sorrow, excitement, many... more... she know me and I know her... yet...
We are had feeling for each other but it just a feeling of pure frenship that both of us cherished.

somehow... we just left our relationship there after our graduation....

hmmm...

song cm
12-20-2004, 08:44 AM
It a very interesting arguments.... I personally had a soulmate during my uni days. she was a very interesting gal (beautiful and sexy) and attached on long distant relationships. we had a lot of time together. even travel together for holiday.... too. but then we didn't end up anywhere near marriage.
we share our joy, sorrow, excitement, many... more... she know me and I know her... yet...
We are had feeling for each other but it just a feeling of pure frenship that both of us cherished.

somehow... we just left our relationship there after our graduation....

hmmm...

So, wats is your answer...yes or no??

Wat didn't u guys take it to the next level??

piglet
12-20-2004, 08:51 AM
So, wats is your answer...yes or no??

Wat didn't u guys take it to the next level??

Good questions, Ausman, y didn't pursue on to next level.

Song tot u wan to remain silence?

piglet
12-20-2004, 08:53 AM
somehow... we just left our relationship there after our graduation....

hmmm...

What if you were to meet her again now? Will be treating her the way as u used to treat her whn u was in uni?

song cm
12-20-2004, 08:54 AM
Good questions, Ausman, y didn't pursue on to next level.

Song tot u wan to remain silence?

i am only goin to remain silent on the cyberpal thingy lah.... :)

piglet
12-20-2004, 08:55 AM
i am only goin to remain silent on the cyberpal thingy lah.... :)

One last question, is the cybergirl pretty?

song cm
12-20-2004, 08:59 AM
One last question, is the cybergirl pretty?

Haha....dunno wat are u talking abt..... :D

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:00 AM
So, wats is your answer...yes or no??

Wat didn't u guys take it to the next level??

Well... it just that we both felt it better we leave our stage of relationship as it is.... in fact we talk about pursuing to next level.... but I guess it didn't take off... :cool:

piglet
12-20-2004, 09:02 AM
Haha....dunno wat are u talking abt..... :D

Smart answer, my assumption, must be not pretty.. tht's y dun wan to talk abt it.

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:03 AM
What if you were to meet her again now? Will be treating her the way as u used to treat her whn u was in uni?

well we did meet once... she is married and me too... somehow we never able to get to our level of relationship during our days in uni... no doubt she is so much more sophisticated, beautiful and sexy too. :eek:

There is no spark...due to time factor (I guess)

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:03 AM
Well... it just that we both felt it better we leave our stage of relationship as it is.... in fact we talk about pursuing to next level.... but I guess it didn't take off... :cool:

I guess it looks like the answer is no, rite....if not, u guys would still be best pals by now.

Yeah, the problem with best pals of opposite sex is where do you draw a line....there is always the question of "next level" and ultimately might even end up in marriage...which proves Dalady's point....best pals = spouse....

So, I guess the answer to piglet's question is No......

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:05 AM
Haha....dunno wat are u talking abt..... :D

Y chicken out????? ;)

Somemore want to talk so much..... :rolleyes: no ending....celaka buat orang shiok aje... :mad:

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:05 AM
Smart answer, my assumption, must be not pretty.. tht's y dun wan to talk abt it.

hey maybe the answer is I don have anylah.....

Dino
12-20-2004, 09:05 AM
I think the guy can make it as best friends to a girl, but girl want commitment from the guy!!! :D

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:06 AM
Y chicken out????? ;)

Somemore want to talk so much..... :rolleyes: no ending....celaka buat orang shiok aje... :mad:

ausman...dat is not the topiclah....this piglet saja want to dig out stories...
anyway my answer is NO....guys n gals can never be best friends...

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:08 AM
I think the guy can make it as best friends to a girl, but girl want commitment from the guy!!! :D

u mean the guy jus wanna have some fun?? :D

Dino
12-20-2004, 09:09 AM
u mean the guy jus wanna have some fun?? :D
Always baby, Always!!! :cool:

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:11 AM
Always baby, Always!!! :cool:

hmm...like dat no more best frenslah...more like play mates.... :D

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:13 AM
ausman...dat is not the topiclah....this piglet saja want to dig out stories...
anyway my answer is NO....guys n gals can never be best friends...

Half-truth.... no such thing as can never be best friends. I total disagree with you. :eek:

Dino
12-20-2004, 09:13 AM
hmm...like dat no more best frenslah...more like play mates.... :D

Best fren can always play hide and seek with each other.Always!!!

athena
12-20-2004, 09:17 AM
yea..dino.....
but having a guy as a best friend...you must khow how to draw the line..if you are the 'unstable' character then, having a guy as a best friend would definately invite more trouble!

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:19 AM
yea..dino.....
but having a guy as a best friend...you must khow how to draw the line..if you are the 'unstable' character then, having a guy as a best friend would definately invite more trouble!

so athena...wat is your view?
Do u hv a best fren who is a guy??

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:20 AM
Half-truth.... no such thing as can never be best friends. I total disagree with you. :eek:

I know dat there is no 100% certainty...but I would say it is at least 80 to 90%....

athena
12-20-2004, 09:22 AM
yes....i'm a engineer ...so during my studies..i have plenty of guy coursmates..and ofcourse other friends who are guys...me and my guy pal have tonnes of fun....but we know that we are both best friends..and love each other very much as friends......and that's about it...no more

Dino
12-20-2004, 09:33 AM
yes....i'm a engineer ...so during my studies..i have plenty of guy coursmates..and ofcourse other friends who are guys...me and my guy pal have tonnes of fun....but we know that we are both best friends..and love each other very much as friends......and that's about it...no more

Yup, i have the same thing happen before. Friends thats all.

athena
12-20-2004, 09:34 AM
in this case, both you and your guy best friend must know how to act...else if one of you cross the line...there can be no turning back liao....

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:35 AM
athena what for turn back.... move forward and have a wonderful life ahead lar...

athena
12-20-2004, 09:36 AM
athena what for turn back.... move forward and have a wonderful life ahead lar...
but u will lose a best friend. there is no turning the hands of clock back.....

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-20-2004, 09:40 AM
The answer is no way. Haven't you people learn from movies. There is a difference between good friends and best friend.

I don't think anyone's bf/gf will like it too much if you are doing too much things together with your best friend. Being best friend is about doing alot of things together incuding stuffs which are in compromising situations.

Conclusion..........a best friend should be your life partner and nobody else. Not even a friend of the same sex.

piglet
12-20-2004, 09:43 AM
Y chicken out????? ;)

Somemore want to talk so much..... :rolleyes: no ending....celaka buat orang shiok aje... :mad:

Yeap.. budak ini celaka ...

piglet
12-20-2004, 09:45 AM
hey maybe the answer is I don have anylah.....

How come always use the word MAYBE.. ur answer not firm.. :rolleyes:

piglet
12-20-2004, 09:48 AM
Yup, i have the same thing happen before. Friends thats all.

She wan to be friend only? Not "best friend" :D ?

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:51 AM
but u will lose a best friend. there is no turning the hands of clock back.....

That okay to lost a fren and gain a spouse for life.... :)

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:52 AM
Yeap.. budak ini celaka ...

Hey...this is not the topic of discussion ler... :)

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-20-2004, 09:53 AM
That okay to lost a fren and gain a spouse for life.... :)
Totally agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee............................... ......

If your friend is indeed purely a friend.................they would understand.

piglet
12-20-2004, 09:54 AM
yes....i'm a engineer ...so during my studies..i have plenty of guy coursmates..and ofcourse other friends who are guys...me and my guy pal have tonnes of fun....but we know that we are both best friends..and love each other very much as friends......and that's about it...no more

Any chance to going further in this friendship?

song cm
12-20-2004, 09:54 AM
That okay to lost a fren and gain a spouse for life.... :)

Wat happen if the spouse thingy does not happen? Then you lose your fren...

My Question is ...can you draw a line dat easily?? When u say best frens...do u go out one to one or in a group?

athena
12-20-2004, 09:55 AM
Any chance to going further in this friendship?
nope....friends...no more!
until now still friends...heheh..

ausman
12-20-2004, 09:57 AM
Wat happen if the spouse thingy does not happen? Then you lose your fren...

My Question is ...can you draw a line dat easily?? When u say best frens...do u go out one to one or in a group?

Me... go out one-to-one with my best fren ...

athena
12-20-2004, 10:12 AM
That okay to lost a fren and gain a spouse for life.... :)
but having a spouse means losing a frend :confused: what kind of logic is that?

piglet
12-20-2004, 10:16 AM
but having a spouse means losing a frend :confused: what kind of logic is that?

U can only have one "bestfriend", ur spouse or ur friend. Choose one.

piglet
12-20-2004, 10:19 AM
nope....friends...no more!
until now still friends...heheh..

:) Enjoy ur friendship

arch-an-gel
12-20-2004, 10:42 AM
U can only have one "bestfriend", ur spouse or ur friend. Choose one.


The spouse will be the bestest best friend (after all a man and a woman after married will be as ONE) ;)
as ordained by GOD.

The rest of the friends will be good friends, very friends, casual friends, OK friends..But most of ALL we must have friends. :D
It's not good to be alone all the times.

Shalom.

athena
12-20-2004, 10:47 AM
The spouse will be the bestest best friend (after all a man and a woman after married will be as ONE) ;)
as ordained by GOD.

The rest of the friends will be good friends, very friends, casual friends, OK friends..But most of ALL we must have friends. :D
It's not good to be alone all the times.

Shalom.
well said....the bestest best friend will one's spouse..but the thing is...can u still be best friend with the opposite sex?

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-20-2004, 10:48 AM
No such thing as bestest best friend (we are not in shakespearen time).........my ACS friend. The term best friend sums it all up.

Of course you need friends. Everyone needs them. But the question is where do you place your importance.

If your best friend is not your life partner.............then in my opinion the relationship is heading towards disaster if not failure.

athena
12-20-2004, 11:14 AM
define best friend.

piglet
12-20-2004, 11:21 AM
define best friend.

soulmate

athena
12-20-2004, 11:22 AM
so cannot have more than one? thre are some things you can tell/share with someppl...and others with some other ppl....

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-20-2004, 11:25 AM
define best friend.
one and only friend above all your other friends..............whom you can share everything together.

piglet
12-20-2004, 11:29 AM
The spouse will be the bestest best friend (after all a man and a woman after married will be as ONE) ;)
as ordained by GOD.

The rest of the friends will be good friends, very friends, casual friends, OK friends..But most of ALL we must have friends. :D
It's not good to be alone all the times.

Shalom.

Agree, agree.... we must still treasure our other friends.......

arch-an-gel
12-20-2004, 01:45 PM
No such thing as bestest best friend (we are not in shakespearen time).........my ACS friend. The term best friend sums it all up.

Of course you need friends. Everyone needs them. But the question is where do you place your importance.

If your best friend is not your life partner.............then in my opinion the relationship is heading towards disaster if not failure.

Yes..we are not in shakespearen time..it's quite a new term..bestest best friend comes from characters in the movie "the lion king". Timun and pumba.
:D

athena
12-20-2004, 01:55 PM
so piglet, do we have a conclusion yet ornot?

piglet
12-20-2004, 02:25 PM
so piglet, do we have a conclusion yet ornot?

Should be not possible I guess (majority voice... especially those with spouse) ;)

What abt u athena, ur ans still yes.. it's possible?

athena
12-20-2004, 02:30 PM
Should be not possible I guess (majority voice... especially those with spouse) ;)

What abt u athena, ur ans still yes.. it's possible?
if best friend=soulmate. then i guess...it is not possible..coz your soulmate should be the person you wanna spend your life with....(haha i learn this from the thread) but having a very good friend who is of the opposite sex, i don't see anything wrong with it. As long as both parties know that it should be purely platonic....

song cm
12-20-2004, 02:35 PM
if best friend=soulmate. then i guess...it is not possible..coz your soulmate should be the person you wanna spend your life with....(haha i learn this from the thread) but having a very good friend who is of the opposite sex, i don't see anything wrong with it. As long as both parties know that it should be purely platonic....

the tough part is ensuring that it remains platonic....
I think it would be tougher for man.....

siewjang
12-20-2004, 02:36 PM
My answer to be yes and no. Depends on individual. If you are married and just met this guy best friend of course you are not going to divorce your hub and married your best friend right? Best friend is someone you can really talk to and expressed your feeling. I have gone thru that. But i can't say that he is my best friend rather that he's a chat friend of mine who i talk to more than my hub. Heck yes! I talk to hub only when we see each other at home. But chat friend is someone if your buddy list who you are chating when you are online. Unlesss you are from a broken marriage and your best friend is someone whom you express all your sorrows too. That i am quite sure that you might fall for him. Unless he has got an eye on you too.

Conculsion.... depends ............. on situation.

athena
12-20-2004, 02:40 PM
Conculsion.... depends ............. on situation.
it is more like "depends on the individuals involved"?

piglet
12-20-2004, 02:40 PM
My answer to be yes and no. Depends on individual. If you are married and just met this guy best friend of course you are not going to divorce your hub and married your best friend right? Best friend is someone you can really talk to and expressed your feeling. I have gone thru that. But i can't say that he is my best friend rather that he's a chat friend of mine who i talk to more than my hub. Heck yes! I talk to hub only when we see each other at home. But chat friend is someone if your buddy list who you are chating when you are online. Unlesss you are from a broken marriage and your best friend is someone whom you express all your sorrows too. That i am quite sure that you might fall for him. Unless he has got an eye on you too.

Conculsion.... depends ............. on situation.

This chat friend of yours which u normally chat online, which you don't really consider as your best friend... in that case, lower % u might fall for him.

arch-an-gel
12-20-2004, 02:41 PM
after married..Well..they can still be good friends.
since you have already found the true bestest best friend.
(your spouse)

Shalom :)

song cm
12-20-2004, 02:49 PM
My answer to be yes and no. Depends on individual. If you are married and just met this guy best friend of course you are not going to divorce your hub and married your best friend right? Best friend is someone you can really talk to and expressed your feeling. I have gone thru that. But i can't say that he is my best friend rather that he's a chat friend of mine who i talk to more than my hub. Heck yes! I talk to hub only when we see each other at home. But chat friend is someone if your buddy list who you are chating when you are online. Unlesss you are from a broken marriage and your best friend is someone whom you express all your sorrows too. That i am quite sure that you might fall for him. Unless he has got an eye on you too.

Conculsion.... depends ............. on situation.

Very well said...again, it is all abt drawing a line....

Let say u r so close to your chat fren n u decided to meet up, so there could be a danger dat ur chat fren would then be more than a chat fren...

Honestly...this opposite sex best freind is really a tough one to maintain but it is not entirely impossible...

siewjang
12-20-2004, 02:57 PM
Very well said...again, it is all abt drawing a line....

Let say u r so close to your chat fren n u decided to meet up, so there could be a danger dat ur chat fren would then be more than a chat fren...

Honestly...this opposite sex best freind is really a tough one to maintain but it is not entirely impossible...
Well, nothing wrong if you just like to meet up with him. But if after the meeting and more meetings... jeng jeng jeng... you will know that if you are looking forward to see him or thinking about him the whole day. But it's not wrong to had a guy best friend where you can talk to when you really need someone to talk to. Not all things can be discussed with hubby.

siewjang
12-20-2004, 03:00 PM
But i think guy best friend is someone whom you adore and admire but not love. We called that Brotherly love only. And hubby is someone you love with all your hearts.

daLady
12-20-2004, 03:01 PM
it is more like "depends on the individuals involved"?

This is quite true. I would say that there are some people whom you have practically zero chemistry with despite having spent lots of time together and there are some whom you are attracted to although you don’t know them well. I will avoid building friendship with the latter coz it may spell trouble in the long term.

As I’ve learned from MYF and the people who have found themselves in such situations, these are the kind of temptations you cannot trust yourself to resist so FLEE…while you can.

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-20-2004, 03:09 PM
This is quite true. I would say that there are some people whom you have practically zero chemistry with despite having spent lots of time together and there are some whom you are attracted to although you don’t know them well. I will avoid building friendship with the latter coz it may spell trouble in the long term.

As I’ve learned from MYF and the people who have found themselves in such situations, these are the kind of temptations you cannot trust yourself to resist so FLEE…while you can.
in your opinion dalady..........what do yout think about becoming best friend with someone whom has liked you before but never dated you because you somehow rejected him. now he claims he only just wants to be purely best buddy. do you buy it or do you avoid becoming to close with him?

piglet
12-20-2004, 03:09 PM
This is quite true. I would say that there are some people whom you have practically zero chemistry with despite having spent lots of time together and there are some whom you are attracted to although you don’t know them well. I will avoid building friendship with the latter coz it may spell trouble in the long term.

As I’ve learned from MYF and the people who have found themselves in such situations, these are the kind of temptations you cannot trust yourself to resist so FLEE…while you can.

Now I know y u r always not around.......

daLady
12-20-2004, 04:50 PM
in your opinion dalady..........what do yout think about becoming best friend with someone whom has liked you before but never dated you because you somehow rejected him. now he claims he only just wants to be purely best buddy. do you buy it or do you avoid becoming to close with him?

There are a lot of factors to consider in this scenario. Generally, the relationship becomes awkward once the line has been breached. I’ll be amazed if it remains as before. If I s till feel comfortable being buddy with him and I treasure the friendship…why not? There’s nothing to lose but I will back out immediately if I sense the line about to be breached again.

But now that I am married, it also matters if my other half is comfortable with such friendship, knowing fully well the history of the relationship.

daLady
12-20-2004, 04:51 PM
Now I know y u r always not around.......
:confused: Can elaborate a bit more on your statement?

LiLiaN
12-20-2004, 04:51 PM
i believe guy and girl can be best friend... i have one... and we share lots of stuffs, events of our lives, the ups and downs, tips about stuff...hehehe.... it has been a great partnership so to speak...

but we never did anything "compromising".... (gar loon, watching too much dawson's creek issit?)... maybe occassional flirt, but we definitely have a line drawn that define what is acceptable within our friendship or not...

so yes, member of opposite sex can be friends... :)

ps: unless you know someone who is french... then there's NOT A HOPE for platonic and deep friendship... french only have friends they sleep with, and friends they don't sleep with..

piglet
12-20-2004, 05:14 PM
Hi,

Here is another diff. view from my colleague:-

Piglet:
Can a guy and a gal become best friend? Wat is ur view?

Donald Duck:
yap. Can, Boleh. Hai.

Piglet:
y can? ur wife should be ur best friend rite?

Donald Duck:
for me , wife is not equal to best frenz lah.My Definition of Best frenz is share the same interest. can tok anything under the moon one.. can u bring up anything to yr spouse? Fear, is u dun wan to get yr spouse to get the wrong idea mah,,, if u accidentally say the wrong thing..

Piglet:
like tht, ur hiding away some info. fr ur wife which ur suppose to share anything under the moon with her...
Who will know more things.. ur wife or ur girl best friend?

Donald Duck:
of course best frenz lah... still need to ask.

song cm
12-20-2004, 05:20 PM
so...what is the conclusion?

piglet
12-20-2004, 05:22 PM
so...what is the conclusion?

be patient.. let me check with Donald Duck

piglet
12-20-2004, 05:27 PM
so...what is the conclusion?

Conclusion fr Donald Duck:-
conclusion is yes. gal can be best frenz for me.

daLady
12-20-2004, 05:39 PM
Conclusion fr Donald Duck:-
conclusion is yes. gal can be best frenz for me.

I'll like to hear what his wife have to say to that!

LiLiaN
12-20-2004, 05:42 PM
I'll like to hear what his wife have to say to that!
who is his wife..? mickey and minnie... donald and ???.....

song cm
12-20-2004, 05:43 PM
Me too... Daisy must be really dumb

Yeah, best frens includes conjugal rights as well..... :confused:

athena
12-20-2004, 05:44 PM
who is his wife..? mickey and minnie... donald and ???.....
donald and daisy la....education wasted...tsk tsk

LiLiaN
12-20-2004, 05:46 PM
donald and daisy la....education wasted...tsk tsk
oh yeah.... just didn't think of her, not too memorable... didn't even see her at eurodisney parade, so must not be too important..? :confused:

piglet
12-20-2004, 05:53 PM
I'll like to hear what his wife have to say to that!

Dunnoler...be patient... let me check with Donald Duck.. abt Daisy's feeling

daLady
12-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Dunnoler...be patient... let me check with Donald Duck.. abt Daisy's feeling

I betcha Daisy doesn't have a clue that Donald shares more with his best gal friend rather than her. According to some kind of studies, women gets more distressed over emotional affair, even more than one night stand. Reason being the emotional aspect is very important to them. For guys, it's the other way round.

piglet
12-20-2004, 06:09 PM
I betcha Daisy doesn't have a clue that Donald shares more with his best gal friend rather than her. According to some kind of studies, women gets more distressed over emotional affair, even more than one night stand. Reason being the emotional aspect is very important to them. For guys, it's the other way round.

sorrylar.. here is Donald DUck reply

am i suppose to ask my wife tat qn?
in anycase, this is my own personal view loh.
Oei. why u used Donald Duck?

LiLiaN
12-20-2004, 06:14 PM
I betcha Daisy doesn't have a clue that Donald shares more with his best gal friend rather than her. According to some kind of studies, women gets more distressed over emotional affair, even more than one night stand. Reason being the emotional aspect is very important to them. For guys, it's the other way round.
women need the emotional side engaged in order to get satisfaction, men don't necessarily need it... men are visual creatures... (sorry i digress a little....)

song cm
12-20-2004, 06:16 PM
sorrylar.. here is Donald DUck reply

am i suppose to ask my wife tat qn?
in anycase, this is my own personal view loh.
Oei. why u used Donald Duck?

hmm, u have a very open minded colleague.
Btw, is he sleeping with the best fren?

daLady
12-20-2004, 06:24 PM
sorrylar.. here is Donald DUck reply

am i suppose to ask my wife tat qn?
in anycase, this is my own personal view loh.
Oei. why u used Donald Duck?

Aha...just as I tot. If the wife ever knows the truth...woe to him, all hell will break loose. If never break loose, then the wife must have gotten even somehow :rolleyes:

piglet
12-20-2004, 11:25 PM
Well, nothing wrong if you just like to meet up with him. But if after the meeting and more meetings... jeng jeng jeng... you will know that if you are looking forward to see him or thinking about him the whole day. But it's not wrong to had a guy best friend where you can talk to when you really need someone to talk to. Not all things can be discussed with hubby.

Siew Jang have the same view as Donald Duck.They feel that not all things, they could discuss with their spouse.

Donald Duck:
for me , wife is not equal to best frenz lah.My Definition of Best frenz is share the same interest. can tok anything under the moon one.. can u bring up anything to yr spouse? Fear, is u dun wan to get yr spouse to get the wrong idea mah,,, if u accidentally say the wrong thing..

piglet
12-20-2004, 11:27 PM
hmm, u have a very open minded colleague.
Btw, is he sleeping with the best fren?

According to him, he do not have any best friend, just his personal view.

piglet
12-20-2004, 11:35 PM
Aha...just as I tot. If the wife ever knows the truth...woe to him, all hell will break loose. If never break loose, then the wife must have gotten even somehow :rolleyes:

Dun get so work out ..... Donald Duck don't have any best friend, just his personal view if he have a best friend.. ;)

piglet
12-20-2004, 11:40 PM
Me... go out one-to-one with my best fren ...

Ur wife know about this... when u go out one-to-one with ur best friend?

song cm
12-21-2004, 12:32 AM
According to him, he do not have any best friend, just his personal view.

sure?....maybe he is worried dat he have told u too much... :p

This again proves my point...2 areas of concerns for Donald....
1) Does he actually have feelins for the best fren and how would he draw a line between dos and donts

2) How would Daisy react to all this.....how understanding would she be?

I guess ultimately it depends on individuals on their percerption of "best friends" and what are the limits in this form of relationship.

LiLiaN
12-21-2004, 01:31 AM
hmm... is all these talks using third parties a way to dissociate oneself from the topic..? :rolleyes:

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 08:21 AM
i believe guy and girl can be best friend... i have one... and we share lots of stuffs, events of our lives, the ups and downs, tips about stuff...hehehe.... it has been a great partnership so to speak...

but we never did anything "compromising".... (gar loon, watching too much dawson's creek issit?)... maybe occassional flirt, but we definitely have a line drawn that define what is acceptable within our friendship or not...

so yes, member of opposite sex can be friends... :)

ps: unless you know someone who is french... then there's NOT A HOPE for platonic and deep friendship... french only have friends they sleep with, and friends they don't sleep with..
not only dawson's creek..........smallville, one tree hill...........you name it.........i watched it.

well...it voice down to how you wanna define best friend. my definition would be someone you could do everything together other than your own personal time e.g. sharing a bed, stripping naked in front of each other, skinny dipping in the pool, etc.

assuming you have a bf and he is ok with you skinny dipping with some other guys, i salute the both of you. if that's the case, i wanna be your best friend. ; )

song cm
12-21-2004, 08:24 AM
hmm... is all these talks using third parties a way to dissociate oneself from the topic..? :rolleyes:

I guess we can call Donald as the innocent bystander lor... :D

piglet
12-21-2004, 08:25 AM
hmm... is all these talks using third parties a way to dissociate oneself from the topic..? :rolleyes:

dun believe? come down and look for me, will introduce u to tis colleague of mine ;)

piglet
12-21-2004, 08:28 AM
sure?....maybe he is worried dat he have told u too much... :p

This again proves my point...2 areas of concerns for Donald....
1) Does he actually have feelins for the best fren and how would he draw a line between dos and donts

2) How would Daisy react to all this.....how understanding would she be?

I guess ultimately it depends on individuals on their percerption of "best friends" and what are the limits in this form of relationship.

Let me confirm the answer with Donald Duck again, be patient.. I thk he's not in the office yet..

song cm
12-21-2004, 08:38 AM
Let me confirm the answer with Donald Duck again, be patient.. I thk he's not in the office yet..

I bet he regretted giving his opinion.
Btw, is he married?

piglet
12-21-2004, 08:39 AM
I bet he regretted giving his opinion.
Btw, is he married?

Of course married.... else how Daisy come about?

song cm
12-21-2004, 08:47 AM
Of course married.... else how Daisy come about?

i thot Daisy was hypothetical...just like his best fren... :D

athena
12-21-2004, 08:49 AM
i thot Daisy was hypothetical...just like his best fren... :D
i have another question. say donald and daisy are not married, just dating. so do you think that it's alright for donald to still have his gal best pal? or regardless of being married or not, donald should still be 'not-so-close' to his gal pal?

piglet
12-21-2004, 09:00 AM
i thot Daisy was hypothetical...just like his best fren... :D

Daisy is real...


Donald Duck answer:-
Nope, sad to say no Best frenz lah. :(

piglet
12-21-2004, 09:02 AM
i have another question. say donald and daisy are not married, just dating. so do you think that it's alright for donald to still have his gal best pal? or regardless of being married or not, donald should still be 'not-so-close' to his gal pal?

I think it's all right for him to have gal best friend since he's not married..

song cm
12-21-2004, 09:27 AM
I think it's all right for him to have gal best friend since he's not married..

but he must let his gf know abt the bf and not keep it as a secret...

daLady
12-21-2004, 09:40 AM
but he must let his gf know abt the bf and not keep it as a secret...
Yup. I agree with that. The gf or bf..or spouse should know about the relationship and the person in question should be comfortable sharing to the partner what he/she and the best friends have been doing together.

Of course that does not include telling your partner about some of the personal secrets the best friend has confided to you. But if the best fren declared his/her love for you, you should stop seeing each other unless you like him/her also...then it's time to reevaluate your steady relationship (not encouraged for married couple) and let your partner in on it) ;)

piglet
12-21-2004, 09:41 AM
sure?....maybe he is worried dat he have told u too much... :p

This again proves my point...2 areas of concerns for Donald....
1) Does he actually have feelins for the best fren and how would he draw a line between dos and donts

2) How would Daisy react to all this.....how understanding would she be?

I guess ultimately it depends on individuals on their percerption of "best friends" and what are the limits in this form of relationship.

Donald Duck's answer:-
this person is definintely a thinker.
yr frenz huh?

1) To be a mature person, there are some do / not to do list
2) My wife need not know.,.. being more sensitive cld results in suspicion,,, u know...like the same drama u see on TV..

Of above r only my personal view. :P

piglet
12-21-2004, 09:55 AM
Another perspective (depending on situation) from another colleague of mine,

According to Minnie Mouse,
Guy and gal can be best friend. Y? Some relationship (husband and wife) are based on affection. They need to have best friend which can communicate intelectually with them where their spouse failed to do so..

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 09:57 AM
Another perspective (depending on situation) from another colleague of mine,

According to Minnie Mouse,
Guy and gal can be best friend. Y? Some relationship (husband and wife) are based on affection. They need to have best friend which can communicate intelectually with them where their spouse failed to do so..
what...........you mean your friend married a stupid husband? i can't belief i am hearing this. better not let your colleague's husband find out what she thinks of him.

piglet
12-21-2004, 10:02 AM
what...........you mean your friend married a stupid husband? i can't belief i am hearing this. better not let your colleague's husband find out what she thinks of him.

It's not stupid.. but 2 person from 2 different country, where language is a problem.. example a Japanese and a Chinese.... where there's no common language they could use....

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 10:08 AM
It's not stupid.. but 2 person from 2 different country, where language is a problem.. example a Japanese and a Chinese.... where there's no common language they could use....
my opinion would be to ask your friend to improve on his/her foreign language so they could communicate better. if she is communicating better with her friend instead of her husband, i think she is heading for bad news. long-term relationship is all about communication.........whether it is sign language, body language, etc. the point is that language barrier should be least of all problems. if it is, do something about it. I am speaking from experience.

piglet
12-21-2004, 10:24 AM
my opinion would be to ask your friend to improve on his/her foreign language so they could communicate better. if she is communicating better with her friend instead of her husband, i think she is heading for bad news. long-term relationship is all about communication.........whether it is sign language, body language, etc. the point is that language barrier should be least of all problems. if it is, do something about it. I am speaking from experience.

It takes time to learn another foreign language...

daLady
12-21-2004, 10:31 AM
Another perspective (depending on situation) from another colleague of mine,

According to Minnie Mouse,
Guy and gal can be best friend. Y? Some relationship (husband and wife) are based on affection. They need to have best friend which can communicate intelectually with them where their spouse failed to do so..

I tot it is a problem for most women if they perceive the spouse as not being 'intellectual' enough...no? Coz if you don't think your hubby is smart, you probably have little respect for his opinions or even him in general. And if this is the case, how to be attracted to that fella in the first place?

Just for the record, I'm not talking about academic records when I say intellectual.

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 10:37 AM
I tot it is a problem for most women if they perceive the spouse as not being 'intellectual' enough...no? Coz if you don't think your hubby is smart, you probably have little respect for his opinions or even him in general. And if this is the case, how to be attracted to that fella in the first place?

Just for the record, I'm not talking about academic records when I say intellectual.
purely LUST i guess..........otherwise how would anyone fall for David Beckham.

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 10:39 AM
It takes time to learn another foreign language...
don't wanna dwell too much further on this but if he/she really loves him enough..............she needs to find the time.

piglet
12-21-2004, 10:43 AM
don't wanna dwell too much further on this but if he/she really loves him enough..............she needs to find the time.

Like what u have just said...it's just lust... or just affection...
cause they got married after knowing each other for a month..

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 10:47 AM
Like what u have just said...it's just lust... or just affection...
cause they got married after knowing each other for a month..
i see.............now we have arrived at the root of the problem. then, if that is the case, the guy/gal best friend will spell trouble. wish your friend all the best and hopefully the best friend knows where he/she stands.

piglet
12-21-2004, 10:48 AM
i see.............now we have arrived at the root of the problem. then, if that is the case, the guy/gal best friend will spell trouble. wish your friend all the best and hopefully the best friend knows where he/she stands.

:D Blindly in lust...

dtchieng
12-21-2004, 11:39 AM
my best friend is a guy, a housemate of mine and his gf is my roomate. both of them r very comfortable having me around. they never thought of me as bothersome. in fact, sometimes kena jadi middleperson pula. with d girl, i share emotional stuff where as with d guy, social n spiritual staff.

daLady
12-21-2004, 12:10 PM
my best friend is a guy, a housemate of mine and his gf is my roomate. both of them r very comfortable having me around. they never thought of me as bothersome. in fact, sometimes kena jadi middleperson pula. with d girl, i share emotional stuff where as with d guy, social n spiritual staff.

You can't consider someone a best friend if you don't or can't share emotional stuff with him. Try sharing emotional stuff and see how your friend takes it :p

So you do not have a male best friend here but a good friend whom you can have a good chat about certain issues with...and I tell you, you are not his best friend either.

daLady
12-21-2004, 12:13 PM
Just wandering....do you consider your roomate your best friend as well? If no...hehehe...try telling her that her bf is your best friend but she is not...tell me the outcome..okidok

Diong_Gar_Loon
12-21-2004, 12:58 PM
Just wandering....do you consider your roomate your best friend as well? If no...hehehe...try telling her that her bf is your best friend but she is not...tell me the outcome..okidok
good one. i would like to know the outcome too. ask your best friend to tell your room mate that you are his best friend too and his gf is not. see how the fireworks fly.

athena
12-21-2004, 01:07 PM
my best friend is a guy, a housemate of mine and his gf is my roomate. both of them r very comfortable having me around. they never thought of me as bothersome. in fact, sometimes kena jadi middleperson pula. with d girl, i share emotional stuff where as with d guy, social n spiritual staff.
hhaai think they both consider you as mutual friend only...

piglet
12-21-2004, 02:22 PM
hhaai think they both consider you as mutual friend only...


I think ur his gf best friend but not his bf best friend.. cause both of u don't share any emotional stuff..

song cm
12-22-2004, 01:03 AM
So piglet...u hv 16 pages of views here...wat is the conclusion? :)

Yes or No

piglet
12-22-2004, 01:17 AM
So piglet...u hv 16 pages of views here...wat is the conclusion? :)

Yes or No

Some say yes.. some say no..

Overall summary, if a guy and gal are to be best friend, there will lots of pre conditions and controls involved in this friendship. If u are married, the ideal best friend should be your spouse.

song cm
12-22-2004, 08:28 AM
Some say yes.. some say no..

Overall summary, if a guy and gal are to be best friend, there will lots of pre conditions and controls involved in this friendship. If u are married, the ideal best friend should be your spouse.

hmm...looks like it is inconclusive....

ausman
12-22-2004, 08:31 AM
Moderator... can we closed this thread.... since piglet had come to her conclusion....:(

KoChun
12-22-2004, 08:35 AM
Closing thread since conclusion is made. Thanks all for giving their views and opinions.