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Lava Gal
07-18-2006, 09:46 AM
juz kaypohing abit here...
the issue is this. its ever sooooo common to see women going for TUBAL LIGATION, as a means of sterilization 9though there's a small rate of failure)...but how often do we see the men doing VASCECTOMY? though vascectomy is a reversible procedure, as opposed to Tubectomy...so, in case of the couple decide to 'try again' some time down the road, simpler, no?
the theory is...it'll give the men more opportunity to play the field...since they wont be sowing any seeds!:eek:
or...they feel less manly...knowing no 'little brudders' are ejaculated?
why is it always the ladies...who go thru painful processes - childbirth (normal vaginal delivery or caeserean-section), inserting intrauterine contraceptive device, implanon, contraceptive injections etc etc
while the men are merely 'supportive husbands'...or so they are supposed to be la?
would any guy...any one of u go for a vascectomy to plan ur family, out of love for ur wife...maybe?
athena
07-18-2006, 09:48 AM
u want this to be a poll???
Jim.Loi
07-18-2006, 09:50 AM
I will if I have to...for the sake of my wife..Vasectomy is a far better choice than Tubal Ligation....not painful at all.....It has nuthin' to do with fears of failure of Ejaculation as mentioned..but more of certain male pride....loss of procreation.....just my 2 pence..
Lava Gal
07-18-2006, 09:50 AM
hmmm...tat'd be intelesting :)
and...at same time, ppl can carry on discuss oso yea
thanx in advance, ath dearie
athena
07-18-2006, 09:51 AM
what's the question and wat are the choices of answers?
i'll set up the polls ASAP!
SS2006
07-18-2006, 09:55 AM
Hmmm...interesting topic, lavagal.:)
what's the question and wat are the choices of answers?
i'll set up the polls ASAP!
For men, the choice is would you or would you not?
For ladies, would you prefer your husband undergo vasectomy or you go for tubal?
Lava Gal
07-18-2006, 10:04 AM
For men:
Would u undergo a vascectomy? And why?
If Yes:
- Love for wife
- Get to 'play' around
- What's the big deal? Its reversible, anyway (most of the time)
- Others (would be good if u care to share)
If No:
- Lose 'manlihood' / chance to propagate ur genes
- I won't get pregnant if i don't do it :cheesy:
- Others (would be good if u care to share)
For women:
Would u allow ur husband to go for a vascectomy?
YES
NO
erm...can u gals help me come up wif options there, ah?
TQ - gottta rush off now..
athena
07-18-2006, 10:07 AM
sudn't this be a joint decision thingy? maybe we can come up wif options that are more 'joint' ?
alfred98
07-18-2006, 10:33 AM
Ok Vasectomy ah....who's doing it????? Surgeon right.......how many he or she have done a year?????? Probably none......Next guinea pig is U!!!! U wan it ah?????? Go to India......there is vasectomy camp....they set up for this purpose leh........Lava!!! Just ask any of the surgeon....their ego probably say yes many times......technical very esay whor......done...none...experience none.....We get this request on and off....we sent then to the SOPD....but usually end up the man chicken up after seeing the surgeon leh....wonder why??????;)
i for one would not... am afraid of needles..
alfred98
07-18-2006, 11:00 AM
i for one would not... am afraid of needles..
But U can take the needle and inject others whor??????:blink: :blink:
But U can take the needle and inject others whor??????:blink: :blink:
tat i am not afraid
alfred98
07-18-2006, 11:15 AM
tat i am not afraid
Hehehehe!! Me too!!!!!:laugh:
athena
07-18-2006, 11:55 AM
[moved to Polling Station]
setting up polls
single choice poll and anonymouse. Vote with confidence.
Do let mods/admins know if you wanna add in more options ;)
Err.. what is vasactomy? :o
Err.. what is vasactomy? :o
Cut the wires that link your little soldiers to the outside world. :unsure:
Poor soldiers... where would they march off to now? :o
Would the artililery cannon remain in the armoury?
Poor soldiers... where would they march off to now? :o
Would the artililery cannon remain in the armoury?
I think your body gets rid of it naturally.
I watch too much Dr.Ruth on TV....:p
shud have more choices-lah...
shud have more choices-lah...
Yah......both have 'al' at the back one.:squeeze: :squeeze: :squeeze:
Blame Dr.Ruth.......blame Dr.Ruth.....
WitchKing
07-18-2006, 12:39 PM
Poor soldiers... where would they march off to now? :o
Would the artililery cannon remain in the armoury?
wont that make the ngan yin nuts turn into balls the size of lemons?!!
song cm
07-18-2006, 01:21 PM
there are many non invasive methods worr....such as condoms, diaprams, BCP (not business contingency planning....:p ), CI, etc......
athena
07-18-2006, 01:22 PM
mah fan mah....
eh eh..darling..wait ah..wait ah..i put on first :p
dragoncity99
07-18-2006, 01:41 PM
mah fan mah....
eh eh..darling..wait ah..wait ah..i put on first :p
:laugh: :laugh:
It must be very frustrating tearing the plastic wrappers, and read the instructions "HOW TO USE", and check the expiry date. LMAO :squeeze:
Tarak guna punya potong stim manuals...
:laugh: :laugh:
It must be very frustrating tearing the plastic wrappers, and read the instructions "HOW TO USE", and check the expiry date. LMAO :squeeze:
Tarak guna punya potong stim manuals...
For a fee, Durex can provide personal trainer in that department... ;)
song cm
07-18-2006, 01:47 PM
mah fan mah....
eh eh..darling..wait ah..wait ah..i put on first :p
why? sked no mood liao isit?? :laugh: ...there is always CI....
It must be very frustrating tearing the plastic wrappers, and read the instructions "HOW TO USE", and check the expiry date. LMAO :squeeze:
Tarak guna punya potong stim manuals...
why need to read again?? :p
alfred98
07-18-2006, 01:50 PM
Now adays those invasive surgical methode is out of fashion lioa....There is non surgical like Mirena and Implanon which is as effective as ligation or vasectomy and it is fully reversible.......So I'm thinking in near future no body will be subjected to surgery for family planning.......I'm already seeing this trend now.....eg Implanon......But Mirena started to pick up lioa....My fren in Australia mention that U cannot find any other IUCD except Mirena there......Maybe there is cheap mah.......
alfred98
07-18-2006, 01:51 PM
why? sked no mood liao isit?? :laugh: ...there is always CI....
why need to read again?? :p
No lah never use before mah......:laugh:
athena
07-18-2006, 01:51 PM
why? sked no mood liao isit??:laugh: ...there is always CI....
high failure rate....if oops already, u take care for me izzit???
song cm
07-18-2006, 01:52 PM
high failure rate....if oops already, u take care for me izzit???
true...CI can only be practised by professionals......:laugh: :p
athena
07-18-2006, 01:52 PM
doc alf....i think u explained b4...whats Mirena & Implanon again ah? :D
true...CI can only be practised by professionals......:laugh: :p
individuals like yourself, guru? :laugh:
alfred98
07-18-2006, 01:55 PM
true...CI can only be practised by professionals......:laugh: :p
Practicing total control issit????? Chi Gong!!!!!!!!Don't come now!!!!!!!!!Ophs.....KNS....cannot use pregnant lioa.......:laugh:
alfred98
07-18-2006, 01:56 PM
doc alf....i think u explained b4...whats Mirena & Implanon again ah? :D
individuals like yourself, guru? :laugh:
U search with your goggle lah...
song cm
07-18-2006, 01:57 PM
doc alf....i think u explained b4...whats Mirena & Implanon again ah?
individuals like yourself, guru? :laugh:
haha...aka old hand....:laugh:
Practicing total control issit????? Chi Gong!!!!!!!!Don't come now!!!!!!!!!Ophs.....KNS....cannot use pregnant lioa.......:laugh:
haha...Chi Gong somemore....:laugh:
athena
07-18-2006, 02:03 PM
old hand indeed:laugh:
but 2 oops for so many years...hahaha...
song cm
07-18-2006, 02:09 PM
2 out of XXX times....ok mah...less than 1% failure rate....:laugh:
athena
07-18-2006, 02:12 PM
2 out of XXX times....ok mah...less than 1% failure rate....:laugh:
so long dy....sure or not XXX times only? not XXXX times meh? :p
song cm
07-18-2006, 02:13 PM
lemme go bek n check my diaries....:p
anyway....early days uses c mah.....
athena
07-18-2006, 02:16 PM
wah keep diary one wor.....imagine...we get our hands on that....:laugh:
matilah song...kena ugut habis habis...
how come only 3 fellas voted only???
Chris C
07-18-2006, 02:17 PM
lemme go bek n check my diaries....:p
anyway....early days uses c mah.....
Lol!.....now this is interesting......'confession of a ....?????:rolleyes: :p
song cm
07-18-2006, 02:17 PM
sud have option 6...No, i prefer other methods......:)
song cm
07-18-2006, 02:21 PM
Lol!.....now this is interesting......'confession of a ....?????:rolleyes: :p
sex-addict?? :amazed:
Chris C
07-18-2006, 02:25 PM
sex-addict?? :amazed:
:laugh: .......no wander u're thinking of producing dvds......:laugh: :p
LiLiaN
07-18-2006, 02:48 PM
sud have option 6...No, i prefer other methods......:)done!
song cm
07-18-2006, 02:50 PM
done!
TQ...voted liao...:)
now you tell me got option 6... voted ade liao can change ah?
LiLiaN
07-18-2006, 03:01 PM
err... let me see if i can change it for you...
ok, changed your vote to option 6 liao...
err... let me see if i can change it for you...
ok, changed your vote to option 6 liao...
tq v much
athena
07-18-2006, 04:47 PM
in view of the medical folks present in the forum, i've got a silly question to ask...
vasectomy snips the tube correct? so where does the semen go? :D
WitchKing
07-18-2006, 05:37 PM
in view of the medical folks present in the forum, i've got a silly question to ask...
vasectomy snips the tube correct? so where does the semen go? :D
Reference post #21. Similar question, different tact.
LiLiaN
07-18-2006, 06:11 PM
it snips the vas deferens, so sperms are reabsorbed into the body...
approximately 50% of the sperm produced never make it to ejaculation in a non-vasectomized man anyway...
so there are plenty already in reabsorption mechamism in the first place...
following vasectomy, the membranes of epididymis (where sperms are stored/matured) increase in size to absorb more fluid...
more macrophages (natural "vacuum cleaner") are also brought in to break down the proteins and re-absorb the solid content...
athena
07-18-2006, 07:11 PM
Reference post #21. Similar question, different tact.
hehehe.....:)
it snips the vas deferens, so sperms are reabsorbed into the body...
approximately 50% of the sperm produced never make it to ejaculation in a non-vasectomized man anyway...
so there are plenty already in reabsorption mechamism in the first place...
following vasectomy, the membranes of epididymis (where sperms are stored/matured) increase in size to absorb more fluid...
more macrophages (natural "vacuum cleaner") are also brought in to break down the proteins and re-absorb the solid content...
thanks lil!
WitchKing
07-18-2006, 07:40 PM
it snips the vas deferens, so sperms are reabsorbed into the body...
approximately 50% of the sperm produced never make it to ejaculation in a non-vasectomized man anyway...
so there are plenty already in reabsorption mechamism in the first place...
following vasectomy, the membranes of epididymis (where sperms are stored/matured) increase in size to absorb more fluid...
more macrophages (natural "vacuum cleaner") are also brought in to break down the proteins and re-absorb the solid content...
Thanks for the explanation but still all this snipping snipping talk is really making me very quesy :sick:....its just not kosher i tell you. if God had wanted us to be able to control our ejaculations......honestly, he'd have given us males a toggle switch somewhere (Squirt/DunSquirt).. Trust me I've looked EVERYWHERE and there isnt one.
....(uh-oh, I think I just gave away what I voted for)
LiLiaN
07-18-2006, 10:18 PM
evolutionary, it's procreation all the way but in real life, it's not a viable option...
you don't want to bring a child to the world when you can't provide for him/her...
in any case, i believe it's reversible...
lynnee
07-19-2006, 09:41 AM
Thanks for the explanation but still all this snipping snipping talk is really making me very quesy :sick:....its just not kosher i tell you. if God had wanted us to be able to control our ejaculations......honestly, he'd have given us males a toggle switch somewhere (Squirt/DunSquirt).. Trust me I've looked EVERYWHERE and there isnt one.
....(uh-oh, I think I just gave away what I voted for)
even if there's a toggle switch, witchking, i doubt that you would wanna switch it off. :p
TingMS
07-19-2006, 10:23 AM
vascectomy tu, apa benda tu???? :o :p
vascectomy tu, apa benda tu???? :o :p
Potong lu punya little brader kalau silap... hehehe ;)
TingMS
07-19-2006, 10:31 AM
Potong lu punya little brader kalau silap... hehehe ;)
ish ish....
takan nak potong...
who wants to be an eunuch......:crying:
vascectomy = sunat???
heheheheeee......
Baca page 2, brader... ;)
http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4869&page=2
TingMS
07-19-2006, 10:38 AM
Baca page 2, brader... ;)
http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4869&page=2
oh itu... kah....
soli soli, gua punya kaca mata sudah pecah...
little rascal sat on it last nite...
heheheheee......
alfred98
07-19-2006, 10:54 AM
There are some reported adverse effect of vasectomy....eg...decreased libido....:blink:
There are some reported adverse effect of vasectomy....eg...decreased libido....:blink:
Is it?? Straight away go do it then!!!! :eek: :eek:
SS2006
07-19-2006, 11:56 AM
There are some reported adverse effect of vasectomy....eg...decreased libido....:blink:
I think it's not 100% confirm that it's reversible...may have some adverse effect...not enough 'guinea pigs' for studies kua...:p
Before the vasectomy, you have to think thoroughly whether really, really don't want another child. Sometimes people decision may change due to
1) The man remarry and may want to start a new family
2) Children all grown up and left home
3) Family economy improve, so want to have more child
4) Death of a child/children (touch wood), sad but happens sometimes.
alfred98
07-19-2006, 11:59 AM
That's why we really don't like to ligate lor.....If female then can go for IVF therapy lor....but male....after some years develop this antisperm antibody to get rid of those unwanted cannot come out sperm.....Then if do testicular biopsy also no good sperm lah........that's it lioa.......
LiLiaN
07-19-2006, 03:20 PM
There are some reported adverse effect of vasectomy....eg...decreased libido....:blink:it's not supposed too if i remember correctly...
since the testiscles are not removed in the process...
testosterone production should still remain like norm...
and that's the main hormone dictating libido in men, isn't it?
athena
07-19-2006, 03:29 PM
it's all in the mind, all in the mind!
LiLiaN
07-19-2006, 03:35 PM
yup, i totally agree! and excuse not to get vasectomy... :rolleyes:
alfred98
07-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Blood supply lor..the testicular arteries passing with the vas deference whor...so U cut it then reduced blood supply lor......Ok!!! Loctor TK Ho can help here....what expert are for lah......:huh:
dragoncity99
07-20-2006, 10:53 PM
For a fee, Durex can provide personal trainer in that department... ;)
:blink: whoa...u serious ka brader? :eek:
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