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our gynae recommends stem life... anyone has done research with recommendation?
WitchKing
06-20-2006, 08:22 PM
our gynae recommends stem life... anyone has done research with recommendation?
something just flew over my head.......whooooooshhh.
Can give background on this thread ahh buff? I just had a long day today, n dun plan on making it a long nite either. :noworry:
something just flew over my head.......whooooooshhh.
Can give background on this thread ahh buff? I just had a long day today, n dun plan on making it a long nite either. :noworry:
it's storing the baby's cord blood as insurance for the future...
alfred98
06-20-2006, 09:09 PM
Just do the head or tail lor!!!!!:D
Ask daboss... I believe he used cyrocord...
daBoss
06-20-2006, 11:45 PM
we went for cyrocord... main reason is that they store the blood in 5 separate vials... so in theory can use 5 separate times...
stemlife? they store in 1 bag...
WitchKing
06-21-2006, 07:40 AM
....Oh. Is it expensive for either one?
alfred98
06-21-2006, 10:24 AM
Ah buff ah....U want some discount see me ok!!!:)
NHLee
06-21-2006, 04:50 PM
baby's cord contains stem cells. Stem cells are undifferentiated cells..which mean it can be programmed to give rise to desired body tissue mass or organ. Basically, stem cells are precursor cells. Another source..embryonic stem cells. Other source, bone marrow.:)
An alternative to organ transplantation crisis!!:)
daBoss
06-21-2006, 05:23 PM
....Oh. Is it expensive for either one?
in malaysia, both stemlife and cyrocord cost the same... so for me, it was a matter of technology... cyrocord was more convincing...
SS2006
06-21-2006, 05:34 PM
baby's cord contains stem cells. Stem cells are undifferentiated cells..which mean it can be programmed to give rise to desired body tissue mass or organ. Basically, stem cells are precursor cells. Another source..embryonic stem cells. Other source, bone marrow.:)
An alternative to organ transplantation crisis!!:)
The stem cells can be used for siblings too or not?
WitchKing
06-21-2006, 05:40 PM
Sorry, i still a bit unclear about this, are we talking about harvesting either of these two methods for the originating BABY or it can be utilised for the PARENTS use as well???
NHLee
06-21-2006, 06:07 PM
At the moment, it's not 100% complete about tissue rejection but far more better than the current graft-versus-host syndrome due to organ donated from unrelated donor. The studies is still on of such case using stem cells but seems promising. The best is harvest your own marrow while still healthy to create stem cells and programmed to create a desire tissue when needed by yourself in future..perhaps to replace certain vital organ due to disease or major taruma accident..liver, kidney, heart, spleen, etc.:D
We have tissue repository lab where I work. The study of such potential syndrome is still undergoing. Of course, that's another person's specialty..not mine. I just share the some knowledge in general.
NHLee
06-21-2006, 06:13 PM
It is a matter of how close the recipient and the stem cell donor. Of course, the closer or the higher degree of kinship..the lower of getting tissue rejection. But, technically there are some disparities even among siblings..this is all at genetic/molecular level. That's why some recipient can only accept donor's tissue who is distantly related instead of own siblings. All these resulted from random recombination of parental and maternal gene during meiotic division. Somehow, genetically you are more related to your distant cousin on genetic basis rather than your own siblings!!...this is a fact:)
Ah buff ah....U want some discount see me ok!!!:)
how much discount ah?
alfred98
06-21-2006, 09:36 PM
how much discount ah?
100bucks lor....For loctor onli half price....If U my relative can get the same lor....:p
100bucks lor....For loctor onli half price....If U my relative can get the same lor....:p
i M ur relative wat? no? :)
NHLee
06-22-2006, 01:01 PM
Fellas, a lot of studies still on going in stem cells reserach. My area is about drug interaction at molecular level for tissue rejection disparities, major histocompatibility complex issue, surface interaction receptor, immuno-protein response and relevance....this is where pharmaco+genomics come to scene.:D
alfred98
06-22-2006, 01:05 PM
Give another 10 years it will be ok lioa...currently use onli for Leukemia.....and some Hogkin's Lyphomas.....
NHLee
06-22-2006, 01:11 PM
That's right...by the way, childhood leukemia is getting common in Spore. What about in Msia? I have seen one 5 yr old..down with lymphoma!!:(
alfred98
06-22-2006, 01:12 PM
That's right...by the way, childhood leukemia is getting common in Spore. What about in Msia? I have seen one 5 yr old..down with lymphoma!!:(
A wad full of this in UHKL.....Veri distressing.....
NHLee
06-22-2006, 01:19 PM
I think human genes are polluted in some ways..environmental, chemical exposure, etc. Even children life also shortened by these kind of disorder. What to do..no perfect cure yet!! Talk about recurrent case..another headache!!
LiLiaN
06-22-2006, 03:58 PM
right now, this tech is far from ideal as alternative to organ transplantation crisis...
just because you have stem cells doesn't mean you can generate organs as you want it...
plus the stem cells success in korea, that was faked and sensationalism...
NHLee
06-22-2006, 04:11 PM
That's why the study is still going on. Even, I'm studying my part of research interest using marrow stem cell.:D Another major project since grant already been approved..tandatangan already put down..treaty already signed...hehe!:D
Lava Gal
06-22-2006, 07:43 PM
It is a matter of how close the recipient and the stem cell donor. Of course, the closer or the higher degree of kinship..the lower of getting tissue rejection. But, technically there are some disparities even among siblings..this is all at genetic/molecular level. That's why some recipient can only accept donor's tissue who is distantly related instead of own siblings. All these resulted from random recombination of parental and maternal gene during meiotic division. Somehow, genetically you are more related to your distant cousin on genetic basis rather than your own siblings!!...this is a fact:)
no offence to anyone...but a perfect reason why consanguinity should not be encouraged! :D
WitchKing
06-22-2006, 08:00 PM
A wad full of this in UHKL.....Veri distressing.....
This one hits me kinda close to heart...my wife's nephew is down with it...doctor sez nothing more can be done...'Just take him home'.
no offence to anyone...but a perfect reason why consanguinity should not be encouraged!
dem. have to open up the dict again.....
Lava Gal
06-22-2006, 08:05 PM
oppps...sorry, tot was pretty much an lay-english term...maybe more of medic, anyway bro:
consanguinity = marriage among blood-related people
sory to hear bout ur nephew :(...how old is he? leukemia or lymphoma? can;t get any donor for bone marrow?
btw to the started of this thread...seems like u have a baby-a-coming ya ;)
bila masa untuk greet the earth?
NHLee
06-23-2006, 12:55 PM
Close marriage, especially among close cousin (first or second cousin) has seen over centuries many blood disorders were borne in communities in Arab populations, the Jews, some European communities (medieval age), and certain Asian countries. Geographical mapping of such traditional social practise also correlates with higher frequency in disease manifestation such as Thalassaemia, sickel-cell disease, hemoglobinopathy variants, leukemia in children, and other hereditary-related malignancies!!:)
SS2006
06-23-2006, 01:01 PM
Close marriage, especially among close cousin (first or second cousin) has seen over centuries many blood disorders were borne in communities in Arab populations, the Jews, some European communities (medieval age), and certain Asian countries. Geographical mapping of such traditional social practise also correlates with higher frequency in disease manifestation such as Thalassaemia, sickel-cell disease, hemoglobinopathy variants, leukemia in children, and other hereditary-related malignancies!!:)
But in some ancient royal families, they do not want to marry outside for fear of their 'superior' blood (genes) get thinner.
And the arranged marriage among those of the same caste? More possibility of close relatives?
NHLee
06-23-2006, 01:26 PM
That's right. Close marriage is not a good practise because during ancient time..ppl don't think of the outcome at genetic level. Those born normal are more dreadful. He or She may look normal but potentially a carrier of bad genes which may be passed on to next generation..like imagine hitting a jackpot kind of probability. One good example is the hemophiliac disease case of Romanov's son. The Czar and his queen are actually distant cousin, so family ties.:)
NHLee
06-27-2006, 01:19 PM
Children with leukemia now have a new lifeline to consider - -- haplotype identical transplantation! Previously, a parent's bone marrow could not be used because it was too diffrent from the child's (usually the case), so a combination from the parents would attack the child's body through antibody production leading to tissue rejection.
A method has been developed to remove the strongest immuno cells from the donor's bone marrow before transplanting them into the patient, allowing the recipient body "to train" the donor's cells into accepting their new owner.
Hopefully available in Spore soon. Currently, collaboration has been made with St. Jude Children Research Hospital from Memphis, Tennessee.:)
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