Malaysia Boleh atau Tak Boleh?

[Big Chief]

How come Malaysia sucks at sports?

[athena]

b'coz most malaysians won't wanna take the sporting career as main occupation?

[alfred98]

b'coz most malaysians won't wanna take the sporting career as main occupation?
How to cari makan lah...salary onli 500 onli lah.....

[Oddfather]

How come Malaysia sucks at sports?
kenot cari makan lor..........

[Odysseus]

How come Malaysia sucks at sports?
small win already celebrate like world champion, how to become world champion lo.... :p

[JC]

Not enough incentive

[Big Chief]

I've been a Tennis Coach for 22 years and still surviving.

[Odysseus]

I've been a Tennis Coach for 22 years and still surviving.
I thot your thread is about making malaysians a world class champions..... btw, who are your star students ah?

[euj]

i think it's due to several reasons:
1) there doesn't seem to be much money in sports in malaysia unless you're tops in sports which are supported by the government such as badminton.
2) there doesn't seem to be the infrastructure to support the growth of potential champions - training facilities, high-class institutes of sports, viable and lucrative leagues.
3) malaysian sports doesn't seem to be run very professionally. a lot of politicians get involved when they are arguably not the most qualified people to be running the show - i'm thinking football and badminton. a lot of the sports associations, if my memory is correct, have been headed up by politicians and royalty.
4) i'm also speculating that there's a lot of corruption and nepotism going on - ie, if someone important doens't like you, then you're not on the team.
5) malaysian sports people don't seem to have the mental frame of mind to do well. they don't mind losing as long as they save face. close enough is good enough for them. with regards to football, they are happy to beat SEA countries, rather than setting a real target of the World Cup, really working towards it and really believing they can do it.

sorry i wrote so much. this has been an issue close to my heart for a long time. i would love to see Malaysia at the World Cup some day, but up to now, I don't believe that we are worthy to be there. just like I think Alex Yoong didn't deserve to be in F1, but he got in cos of the support of the Malaysia govt and corporate funding.

Even though I'm no Aussie, it felt so good when they made it to the World Cup. you can really see the difference in attitudes in Australia. their sports people try so hard and give every thing 100%. they have done so well at the Olympics and so many other sports...

[Odysseus]

i think it's due to several reasons:
1) there doesn't seem to be much money in sports in malaysia unless you're tops in sports which are supported by the government such as badminton.
2) there doesn't seem to be the infrastructure to support the growth of potential champions - training facilities, high-class institutes of sports, viable and lucrative leagues.
3) malaysian sports doesn't seem to be run very professionally. a lot of politicians get involved when they are arguably not the most qualified people to be running the show - i'm thinking football and badminton. a lot of the sports associations, if my memory is correct, have been headed up by politicians and royalty.
4) i'm also speculating that there's a lot of corruption and nepotism going on - ie, if someone important doens't like you, then you're not on the team.
5) malaysian sports people don't seem to have the mental frame of mind to do well. they don't mind losing as long as they save face. close enough is good enough for them. with regards to football, they are happy to beat SEA countries, rather than setting a real target of the World Cup, really working towards it and really believing they can do it.

sorry i wrote so much. this has been an issue close to my heart for a long time. i would love to see Malaysia at the World Cup some day, but up to now, I don't believe that we are worthy to be there. just like I think Alex Yoong didn't deserve to be in F1, but he got in cos of the support of the Malaysia govt and corporate funding.

Even though I'm no Aussie, it felt so good when they made it to the World Cup. you can really see the difference in attitudes in Australia. their sports people try so hard and give every thing 100%. they have done so well at the Olympics and so many other sports...
I am equally impressed with aussies achievements in sports considering their small population. Since you are there and have seen it happening before your eyes, what sort of recomendations would you give to our goment to improve on our sports here.

[Rayhong]

small win already celebrate like world champion, how to become world champion lo.... :p

[CLAP CLAP CLAP]

extremely well said! took the words right out of my mouth!

[darthvader]

How come Malaysia sucks at sports?

not really. nicol david, though down lately, did well for the country. world no. 1 etc. the bowling team is doing well. we were thomas cup champions

[euj]

I am equally impressed with aussies achievements in sports considering their small population. Since you are there and have seen it happening before your eyes, what sort of recomendations would you give to our goment to improve on our sports here.
1) identify sports which are important around the world and important to be good at - football, swimming, athletics.
2) get rid of nepotism and corruption. base all decisions on a merit basis - at the admin level and also at the sportperson level.
3) set up excellence programs.
4) set up viable and lucrative leagues - football, athletics.
5) do not settle for second best and do not target 'a good effort' as good enough. set goals such as to be world champion and get there in stages.
6) get the best coaches.
7) form a culture of training hard, playing hard and winning.
8) believe that you can do it through hard work, good preparation and the right strategy. everyone has 2 eyes, 2 hands and 2 legs. if either one country can do it - ie, brazil winning the world cup, other can succeed too. look at japan and south korea, and i believe eventually china too. the aussies believe that given the right preparation, strategy and circumstances, they can beat anyone in anything. i love that attitude...

[darthvader]

I am equally impressed with aussies achievements in sports considering their small population. Since you are there and have seen it happening before your eyes, what sort of recomendations would you give to our goment to improve on our sports here.

improve the mind.

[Odysseus]

1) identify sports which are important around the world and important to be good at - football, swimming, athletics.
2) get rid of nepotism and corruption. base all decisions on a merit basis - at the admin level and also at the sportperson level.
3) set up excellence programs.
4) set up viable and lucrative leagues - football, athletics.
5) do not settle for second best and do not target 'a good effort' as good enough. set goals such as to be world champion and get there in stages.
6) get the best coaches.
7) form a culture of training hard, playing hard and winning.
8) believe that you can do it through hard work, good preparation and the right strategy. everyone has 2 eyes, 2 hands and 2 legs. if either one country can do it - ie, brazil winning the world cup, other can succeed too. look at japan and south korea, and i believe eventually china too. the aussies believe that given the right preparation, strategy and circumstances, they can beat anyone in anything. i love that attitude...

Can you expand on your points... let me explore further..
3) set up excellence programs. How? What did Aussies do right?
4) set up viable and lucrative leagues - football, athletics. Lucrative means money. Money did not help our football Premier league la.. So, how?
6) get the best coaches.Do you think Sven Erikson will turn Malaysia soccer team into Asia Cup champion?

[amelia7]

Dat's a good one...:laugh: :laugh:

Can you expand on your points... let me explore further..
3) set up excellence programs. How? What did Aussies do right?
4) set up viable and lucrative leagues - football, athletics. Lucrative means money. Money did not help our football Premier league la.. So, how?
6) get the best coaches.Do you think Sven Erikson will turn Malaysia soccer team into Asia Cup champion?

[shiruikage]

unless soccer is cleaned up, it will die in mediocracy.
euj is right in that sweeping changes need to be done. but most importantly, the sportsmen themselves must have the passion, enthusiatsm and will to win as the most important criteria, then and only then will they stand a chance of winning.

heck, u don even need world class facilities to be the best. look at senegal, tobago and trinidad, and all the other poor african countries. they suck at facilities, and yet, they earn more golds in the olympic than malaysia. and singapore, they spend millions yearly buying talent left, right and centre, building world class facilities and where did it get them? a lower standing than....i'm almost ashamedly proud to say, malaysia.

another example: the sports of archery. years before, UPM sucks at it, and never won any medals despite having the contry's top player as its coach. things changed when a new batch of students join, and lifted the standard several fold, all using pass-it-down equipments, taking loans to pay for new ones and training 4 hours daily under the hot scorching sun with no protection other than the clothes on their back and a cap. during tournaments, training time was increased to 10 hours daily, only stopping for pan sai, eating and sleeping at night. hell, even rain does not deter them, and they have no roof over their head! in 5 months, they brought back to UPM their first gold medal, and since that time, medals of all colors flooded in from various tournaments around the country, even producing several national champs.
and whats the point of this ridiculously long post? if u have the will, u have the means.:)

[Anson F-Clef]

unless soccer is cleaned up, it will die in mediocracy.
euj is right in that sweeping changes need to be done. but most importantly, the sportsmen themselves must have the passion, enthusiatsm and will to win as the most important criteria, then and only then will they stand a chance of winning.

True - another sport on a SIMILAR BRINK as soccer could be HOCKEY if left unguarded - tooooo many times in history fail to qualify for World Cup lerr..........

[Dino]

Aiyah....i can see 2 reasons...
1) Legs a little short hoor compared to whites and blacks.
2) Lack of passion,commitment and dedication for the game. Can you imagine Msian parents not sending their kids to school but to play sports all day long?
3) Not minor sponsorship for the sports. In the US...even small leagues get small chunk of money.

[Oddfather]

Aiyah....i can see 2 reasons...
1) Legs a little short hoor compared to whites and blacks.

Along the same line of thots, whites and blacks are bigger in build......for every step they take, Msians have to take 2.....for every stroke in the pool, Msians have to make 2.......so is this fair competition?? :blink:

[euj]

Aiyah....i can see 2 reasons...
1) Legs a little short hoor compared to whites and blacks.
2) Lack of passion,commitment and dedication for the game. Can you imagine Msian parents not sending their kids to school but to play sports all day long?
3) Not minor sponsorship for the sports. In the US...even small leagues get small chunk of money.
i have to disagree with you guys about physical attributes. whilst the physical side is important, in sports generally, especially with most balls games, skill, tactics and the mental aspects are more important. a lot of the top football players are not big. in tennis, whilst size helps, skill and and strategy are more important. look at people like lleyton hewitt and justine henin-hardene in tennis, and michael owen, robbie fowler and maradona in football. also, countries such as korea and japan and china have been very succesful in hockey, football and golf. i think end of the day, it would be mental side which is the main problem.

[Odysseus]

Do you think we have potential sports leaders in our Forum since we are full of ideas

[alfred98]

Potential in our children lah...not us!!! Sudah tua!!!!!:)

[Odysseus]

Potential in our children lah...not us!!! Sudah tua!!!!!:)
You become coach ma.... like Sven :p