[closed] Study Life vs Working Life

[Ah Boh]

Title is self-explanatory... :)

So guys & gals... students ke, worker bees ke, own boss ke, kaki lepak ke, blur sotongs ke, watever ur status ur input is most welcome!

Here's a guide for a start :

Are u enjoying the life of a carefree student or are u proud to be earning ur own living?

Do you dread exams/deadlines and if given a choice, which of the lesser evil wud u choose?

Wat do u think of the high unemployment in this country where alot of grads cant or wont find jobs?

Shoot!

[kamkuey]

I miss the carefree life of study life. But I din like the fact that I was using parent's money. Kenot simply buy stuff.

Working life.. earning own money... buy whatever I wan. hehehe... but... life bounded to work. No longer carefree. Got bills to worry about. :(

Fresh grads... I dun think will face any problems in finding jobs. Prolly they are looking at managerial high paying positions which require experience which they do not have....

[Voon Chan]

Student time was great. Life was fun. With or without exam.
Work part time just to earn the extra few hundreds a month.
But not enough money to do & buy what I like.

Working life is ok (a part from the stress)
Can equally enjoy life (when we earn enough to have a little fun)

As for young grads, they need to realise that it will be difficult to pick the job that they want. If am am jobless. I don't mind working as long I have money. For a start, fast food outlet is always the easiest place to get a job

[SS2006]

I like the carefree students life with so much free hours, but dread the exams. I like working life because able to own money and dun have to feel guilty using parents or husband's money, but dread the long and unflexible hours. Working life is so boring ...you have to work until you retire (or strike lottery, whichever comes first:D ), not much changes to look forward to.
Whereas student life just a transition, preparing for working life...you cannot stay a student forever...full of unknown futures.
If need to choose, i'll choose working life.

[shiruikage]

i like training life. getting paid to study and pass exams.

[Ah Boh]

I miss the carefree life of study life. But I din like the fact that I was using parent's money. Kenot simply buy stuff.

Working life.. earning own money... buy whatever I wan. hehehe... but... life bounded to work. No longer carefree. Got bills to worry about. :(


i agree! carefree vs money... hmm... hard to choose lah cuz i wan my cake & eat it too :)

but both study & working life have sumthin no1 can escape - Responsibility, whether to pass exams or to meet work obligations, no shortcut there, rite?

Student time was great. Life was fun. With or without exam.
Work part time just to earn the extra few hundreds a month.
But not enough money to do & buy what I like.


oh yeah... i was studying n doing partime events mgt, it was so much fun until d exam looms near. but d extra $, while it lasted, was very useful to go movies & shopping with frens.


Whereas student life just a transition, preparing for working life...you cannot stay a student forever...full of unknown futures.
If need to choose, i'll choose working life.

hmm... so working life is the transition to retirement life, by then retirement life is transition for eternal life :p

i would choose working life too. Way too busy & way high stress but also gives me d financial independence dat a modern gal needs! keke... :D

[Odysseus]

I prefer working life..... i can decide how I want to run my life.

[Lava Gal]

Good thread, ah boh!
hmmmm - my turn now...*bang bang bang* (shooting mahhh)

i like training life. getting paid to study and pass exams.
wish my training life had that kind of $$$ aspect too! unfortunately my dad has to come out with the moolah :( We pay, and we get trained, and sit for exams monthly...hhhmm, so in conclusion --> we pay & subject ourselves to torture. sadistic, yeah?

:p well...when its all for passion :D whats gotta be done, has to be done!

Are u enjoying the life of a carefree student or are u proud to be earning ur own living?
i would love to be earning! feel bad parents (dad lar, since he's sole breadwinner) has to pay so much for me! you know...i'm his biggest investment (dem...even our car+house costs lesser than my cost!) & to think i'm forever having to incur cost for him for time being *sad thought*. there are lotsa things i'd love to have...but have to put on halt coz i'll get them with my own money, in a yr's time....yeaaay!

partime job is out of Q coz siang malam weekend oso have to come hosp...wer got time to commit? unless i can get sumthing flexible...where i can earn money (how i wish...sigh)

but, as to the Q in bold, i am a student. quite carefree, as i still make time to forum etc *now tatz somwthing considering most med students dun even chcek their emails, and here i am...would die if i dun enter forum for a couple of days! =p)
but thats that...hmm, i had a few mths of ideal student life when 1st came to seremban. but, it ended - that was anhther rude shock in my life.

but anyway...when i dun have the life i wish, i love the life i have. (and students life was supposed to be bestest time of a person's life. not for me though...OVERALL, its almost a nightmare that i wont wish unto my worst enemy even - not like i have any =p)

amendments made to my past idealistic thoughts...and i socialize & hang out in this forum! so...seriously, the hi-lite of my student life is this acs forum.

Do you dread exams/deadlines and if given a choice, which of the lesser evil wud u choose?
to an extent...yes. though u get used to the idea when its a monthly affair, but when everything comes together...stress wei! it boild down to, shud i study? should i go to ward? so...use the rule of priority - first things first.

drg schooldays, i hated to do last min work. always efficient...tatz all in the past now, coz with heavy-coursework...u have to do last min work, coz there's so much to be done in a day.

i dislike exams coz they promote competitiveness. have u seen the looks on ur 'frens' face when u do better than them? or the feeling of worthlessness when u fail a ppr? well...constantly reminding self that exams are just a measurement of aptitude, and in medic school, it involves luck too...coz the syllabus is infinity & u can nvr finish studying (be fully prepared). its a lot of broad concepts + common sense.

i would choose assignment deadlines anyday, over exams =)
reason being...working on assignments give me adrenaline rush (like last wknd i even forego my zzzzz - without any coffee! and nx day still unable to sleep, though work was done...that intoxicating *wink*) I love to type...and when i see a completed work in front of me, it gives me a sense of accomplshment...ahhhh.

Wat do u think of the high unemployment in this country where alot of grads cant or wont find jobs?
i agree with VC...it depends on ur line of study. some areas, erm...its well known that there's a lack of job opportunity. so...grab the job that comes ur way & use it as a stepping stone. jangan pandang maruah!

in my case...haha, that'd be the day i want to live to see - when Malaysia says "Unemployed Fresh Medical Graduate - what will they do now?". No worries about unemployment. only worry is if i choose to serve in east malaysia first two yrs, will they spare me future rural postings & let me stay 4 good to specialize back here? *shrugh*

[Ah Boh]

wow lav, u sure have strong opinions on this matter.

u dun hafta wori bout getting a job tho, evrywhr i read our country says not enuf docs, not enuf medics, not enuf nurses... y lar like dat, kesian us sick ppl leh hafta hunt down good ppl who know how to use a syringe properly. cheh...

i have a strange feeling why so fussy about certain jobs... i mean, c'mon la if a person is sooo fresh fm college/uni/watever, cant expect super high salary + benefits with only a paper qualification to offer rite?

priority for 1st job shud be Experience, not money or even job satisfaction cuz evry1 gotta start sumwhr, even if its d bottom rung of d ladder. priority for subsequent jobs can be Money + Experience + Job Satisfaction, if u're lucky.

[Lava Gal]

wow lav, u sure have strong opinions on this matter.

u dun hafta wori bout getting a job tho, evrywhr i read our country says not enuf docs, not enuf medics, not enuf nurses... y lar like dat, kesian us sick ppl leh hafta hunt down good ppl who know how to use a syringe properly. cheh...

i have a strange feeling why so fussy about certain jobs... i mean, c'mon la if a person is sooo fresh fm college/uni/watever, cant expect super high salary + benefits with only a paper qualification to offer rite?

priority for 1st job shud be Experience, not money or even job satisfaction cuz evry1 gotta start sumwhr, even if its d bottom rung of d ladder. priority for subsequent jobs can be Money + Experience + Job Satisfaction, if u're lucky.
hehe...just my 2 pence (but panjang berjela-jela :P

hmm...u r rite, bobo. for time being shortage, coz after the complusary service...drs waiting to run-away from gomen service ma...or those who r trained overseas dun come back! so...amacam?? those who stay on...some who get into the 'chronic MO category' get so fed-up with their job...and dun do it for satisfaction anymore - but merely as WORK. and IMHO the day u see ur vocation as WORK...it will seem daunting. i have always...and still do believe that 'Medicine is a Calling' :D

oh btw...i heard from my cousin in ukraine that these grads ahh, classified as categoryC (i nvr knew b4 that that they had categorization of registered docs) - are NOT allowed to open up own GP clinics, unless they specialize lo. We local grads fall under CategoryA it seems...funny eh, sometimes when u r within the country, the policies are never revealed to u

ya lo, yalo....experience takda! tapi wan BIG BUCKS. my older cousins (mom's side) who have tasted working world tell us kiddos take ur first job as 'resume building' experience. gather as much as u can...give as much as u can. leave with good-reputation...and a wonderful future referee (the ex-boss) to a job that's more fitting to the nature of ur study, when the time comes

concerning the bolded part...yup, as they say HO (housemen) are the lowest creatures in the ward. so, u can imagine where v medic students stand :p ITS always BOTTOM up =D

[Ah Boh]

wayyy to go lav! bottoms up! *glug glug glug*

eh, can vote thread ah? i was pleasantly surprised to see stars... gee thanx!this brighten up my sat at work, pathetic me.

[Lava Gal]

hehe....jeng-jeng-jeng...a whip of the wand, and hey presto - ta-daaaa....*MaGiC*!!!

go to the RATING column, click on the drop down arrow, and can rate...so in future if u find any threads worth repo-ing, do it gal! :D

good to hear u feel brighter now...hey, u shud be la! coz mon is a hol, & ur parents comin down rite..

[Ah Boh]

yalor yalor... but am still stuck in office to finish up sumtin. in fact, my whole family coming down to stay with me tis wkend, they arriving tonite for dinner so i get homecooked food for 3 days until they return on mon. yay!

thanx for rating tip. hmm... now, wch thread am i gonna kacau, keke...

[Lava Gal]

have a fantabulous (ooops, sorry lil...i'm using ur term! no copyrights, rite?) weekend ahead!!
can 'feel' the excitement from here dee. so ur special s1 will be joining u for dinner too? ;)

[Ah Boh]

nah, special sum1 gone back his hometown *wink wink* u know la lav, cannot fight with d guy's family rite, hafta support his decisions loh. not dat i mind actually, now i can show my evil side n quarrel with my bro & sis without worrying wat he may think of me. my bro taller than me now but im still looking forward to buli him.. keke..

but i do miss my guy... nvm, this is getting out of topic hehe...

ooohhh, boss looking the other way, gotta cabut while i can! tata!

[alfred98]

Student time supposed to be carefree lor...Your parents wanted U to concentrate on the study mah....I love it....but money really a issue here...Remember last time wanna buy T shirt buy from Thrusday market go supermarket see Orlando brand also saliva come out....Now!!! Hehe no need to mention lah.....:)

[Oddfather]

Student time supposed to be carefree lor...Your parents wanted U to concentrate on the study mah....I love it....but money really a issue here...Remember last time wanna buy T shirt buy from Thrusday market go supermarket see Orlando brand also saliva come out....Now!!! Hehe no need to mention lah.....:)
Orlando sizes not gham for you. :eek:

[TK Ho]

What the difference brtween studying and working life?

Both have difficulties which we have to overcome.

I am looking forward to retired life:) (Hope that I have enuff to survive when retired)

[alfred98]

Orlando sizes not gham for you. :eek:
That time slim slim one lah....L boleh liao!!!!!:)

[Oddfather]

That time slim slim one lah....L boleh liao!!!!!:)
Now....???

[alfred98]

Now....???
XXXL!!!!!

[daBoss]

i had my best fun while i was a student... nowadays it worry worry worry... mortgage, customer, boss, etc... :(

but having said that, i'd still rather no go back to being a student. it's a experience i love but the uncertainty (exams, career, etc.) is not what i would want to accept... :D

[Oddfather]

XXXL!!!!!
So working life has served you well!! :D

[TK Ho]

So working life has served you well!! :D

Good for loctor. Sadly, working life is not serving me well, still not putting on weight.:wacko:

[LiLiaN]

have a fantabulous (ooops, sorry lil...i'm using ur term! no copyrights, rite?) weekend ahead!!
can 'feel' the excitement from here dee. so ur special s1 will be joining u for dinner too? ;)hahaha... no worry, can't copyright words.... ;)

well, i am both working and studying at the moment, and i have been so for the past 6 years...
i enjoy my student life aspect for the pursuit of knowledge, freedom to travel, interesting social circle...
yet at the same time, we all know how little/no income student can have...
i'm lucky that i have a very flexi part time job that pays very well to fund my travel etc...
and even luckier to found a good phd program that pays quite well too, tax free...
this way, i'm working through my loan repayment for my undergrad fees...
and i'm proud to say that in the last 2 years, i have repaid a little more than 10K euro of loan... :)

it may be hard work sometimes, and slogging through is not always easy...
but at least to have some of my responsibility looked after...
i don't feel guilty whenever i splurge/travel/spend... because that's reward to myself....
work hard, play hard baby... :D

[TK Ho]

hahaha... no worry, can't copyright words.... ;)

well, i am both working and studying at the moment, and i have been so for the past 6 years...
i enjoy my student life aspect for the pursuit of knowledge, freedom to travel, interesting social circle...
yet at the same time, we all know how little/no income student can have...
i'm lucky that i have a very flexi part time job that pays very well to fund my travel etc...
and even luckier to found a good phd program that pays quite well too, tax free...
this way, i'm working through my loan repayment for my undergrad fees...
and i'm proud to say that in the last 2 years, i have repaid a little more than 10K euro of loan... :)

it may be hard work sometimes, and slogging through is not always easy...
but at least to have some of my responsibility looked after...
i don't feel guilty whenever i splurge/travel/spend... because that's reward to myself....
work hard, play hard baby... :D

LiLiaN, I know some of the PhD students here find it difficult as their salaries depend on grants, which when expire, they are in trouble. And there's limited post for them to move on when they complete their PhD. Do you have any of these difficulties?

[LiLiaN]

my salary depends on grants too, and i guess i am one of the lucky ones...
while some phd students struggle and had to demonstrate to get extra income...
my PI last year gave me and cait (another phd student on the same grant) pay increase!!

this grant of ours will expire september next year....
and while i feel under some pressure to finish on time (and i feel responsible too)...
i have been assured that if i needed a little more time, it'll be alright...
my PI holds several grants and he can shift some money around...

i hope it doesn't have to come to that of course...
later this year i will be learning about writing for grant application...
so that i can go away to do some lab exchange in canada or kenya...
that should be a good experience and skill for me to learn...
and i am ever so grateful to have wonderful PI and also a very caring postdoc supervisor...

as for postdoc positions, i am really not worried about that...
there's a demand for my skill set in my field of work...
and because my combination is rather unusual, it helps...
saying that, i plan to take some time out after my phd...
to try to figure what i really want to do and where to go...

[TK Ho]

my salary depends on grants too, and i guess i am one of the lucky ones...
while some phd students struggle and had to demonstrate to get extra income...
my PI last year gave me and cait (another phd student on the same grant) pay increase!!

this grant of ours will expire september next year....
and while i feel under some pressure to finish on time (and i feel responsible too)...
i have been assured that if i needed a little more time, it'll be alright...
my PI holds several grants and he can shift some money around...

i hope it doesn't have to come to that of course...
later this year i will be learning about writing for grant application...
so that i can go away to do some lab exchange in canada or kenya...
that should be a good experience and skill for me to learn...
and i am ever so grateful to have wonderful PI and also a very caring postdoc supervisor...

as for postdoc positions, i am really not worried about that...
there's a demand for my skill set in my field of work...
and because my combination is rather unusual, it helps...
saying that, i plan to take some time out after my phd...
to try to figure what i really want to do and where to go...

Can I ask what is your field of research?

[LiLiaN]

Can I ask what is your field of research?i am a graduate of pharmacology...
i am doing phd in molecular evolution and population genetics...
and i'm a bioinformatician with immunology background...

[TK Ho]

i am a graduate of pharmacology...
i am doing phd in molecular evolution and population genetics...
and i'm a bioinformatician with immunology background...

Very interesting. I suppose genetics is going to be the future. Even aortic aneuryms are being linked to genes now, but still very early and no definite association yet. Is there any specific disease that your research involve?

[LiLiaN]

no, i'm studying genome wide evolution, namely positive selection, at the moment...
this is rather exciting, and makes me feel great that i'm contributing back to science...

one general advice for students in the forum...
it is vital to have interest in what you're studying...
don't just do it for someone else's sake...
you don't want to feel dragged by your choice of subject....

working does bring in more income, but does it give personal fulfilment..?
this, is where i believe, a vested interest comes in and plays a major role... ;)

[Ah Boh]

Student time supposed to be carefree lor...Your parents wanted U to concentrate on the study mah....I love it....but money really a issue here...Remember last time wanna buy T shirt buy from Thrusday market go supermarket see Orlando brand also saliva come out....Now!!! Hehe no need to mention lah.....:)

yalor... wen i was in college had to budget very carefully cuz it aint my $ i feel guilty spending it on stuff un-related to studies like CDs and soft toys... so i'll borrow CDs from frens and drop hints for soft toys as bday presents... keke...

now, as long as i put aside some savings from my meagre salary, i just go out n buy wat i like. in fact, i just bot a new white blouse recently, waiting for the next acs gathering to show it off! :D

[celeste_chu]

XXXL!!!!!
good la.. you're getting every penny worth..
ppl pay the same price as you did but for lesser fabric

[Lava Gal]

hahaha... no worry, can't copyright words....
well, i am both working and studying at the moment, and i have been so for the past 6 years...
i enjoy my student life aspect for the pursuit of knowledge, freedom to travel, interesting social circle...
yet at the same time, we all know how little/no income student can have...
i'm lucky that i have a very flexi part time job that pays very well to fund my travel etc...
and even luckier to found a good phd program that pays quite well too, tax free...
this way, i'm working through my loan repayment for my undergrad fees...
and i'm proud to say that in the last 2 years, i have repaid a little more than 10K euro of loan... :)

it may be hard work sometimes, and slogging through is not always easy...
but at least to have some of my responsibility looked after...
i don't feel guilty whenever i splurge/travel/spend... because that's reward to myself....
work hard, play hard baby... :D
*clap clap* u deserve every bit of it, baby!

no, i'm studying genome wide evolution, namely positive selection, at the moment...
this is rather exciting, and makes me feel great that i'm contributing back to science...

one general advice for students in the forum...
it is vital to have interest in what you're studying...
don't just do it for someone else's sake...
you don't want to feel dragged by your choice of subject....

working does bring in more income, but does it give personal fulfilment..?
this, is where i believe, a vested interest comes in and plays a major role... ;)
cant agree more with u..sound advice there, Lil. Thanx for reminding us.
In fact, interest is what is sustaining me...as its enabling me to see Life as a bed of roses...with some thorns! ultimately...we focus on the roses, which keeps us going...and the thorn-pricks will seem immaterial. =)

yalor... wen i was in college had to budget very carefully cuz it aint my $ i feel guilty spending it on stuff un-related to studies like CDs and soft toys... so i'll borrow CDs from frens and drop hints for soft toys as bday presents... keke...

now, as long as i put aside some savings from my meagre salary, i just go out n buy wat i like. in fact, i just bot a new white blouse recently, waiting for the next acs gathering to show it off! :D
ah boh....well...white blouse eh...already starting to imagine u in white. ohhh....why do i see a halo on ur head? =p

[malcolm]

yalor... wen i was in college had to budget very carefully cuz it aint my $ i feel guilty spending it on stuff un-related to studies like CDs and soft toys... so i'll borrow CDs from frens and drop hints for soft toys as bday presents... keke...

now, as long as i put aside some savings from my meagre salary, i just go out n buy wat i like. in fact, i just bot a new white blouse recently, waiting for the next acs gathering to show it off! :D

wah...so white... :p

[ryan_khoo82]

good la.. you're getting every penny worth..
ppl pay the same price as you did but for lesser fabric

Same thing I was thinking hahaha

[Ah Boh]

ah boh....well...white blouse eh...already starting to imagine u in white. ohhh....why do i see a halo on ur head? =p

wah...so white... :p

notti ppl! dun start imagining things arr..

[malcolm]

Coming back to the topic - I didn't really like my study life except for the sleeps, ponteng classes, some enthusiastic lecturers, my housemates in Uni, my friends including my super nice girlfriends, my juniors, co-curricular activies I was involved in etc ..

Everything, besides the stressful exams and assignment datelines, was great!
I wouldn't mind if the assignments are interesting and can help me acquire new skills....

At the moment, I am doing something I have passion for. I work from home, don't drive to work, have quite some good food to eat around here, it is near Leisure Mall can go to KLCC, flexible working hours, can cabut anytime!! :D

[Ah Boh]

Coming back to the topic - I didn't really like my study life except for the sleeps, ponteng classes, some enthusiastic lecturers, my housemates in Uni, my friends including my super nice girlfriends, my juniors, co-curricular activies I was involved in etc ..

Everything, besides the stressful exams and assignment datelines, was great!
I wouldn't mind if the assignments are interesting and can help me acquire new skills....

At the moment, I am doing something I have passion for. I work from home, don't drive to work, have quite some good food to eat around here, it is near Leisure Mall can go to KLCC, flexible working hours, can cabut anytime!! :D

how envious! :sus:

[Adele]

how envious! :sus:

girl, he cabut from office means cabut from house also la... he come home, come back to office also la... fun is fun la... but still kinda sien. unless he's living in the huge bungalow where 'home' and 'office' are at different wings or floors. now, that's only when you should be envious! :)

[malcolm]

girl, he cabut from office means cabut from house also la... he come home, come back to office also la... fun is fun la... but still kinda sien. unless he's living in the huge bungalow where 'home' and 'office' are at different wings or floors. now, that's only when you should be envious! :)

better than getting stuck in the jam for at least an hour or more a day. Waste petrol, waste time. getting stuck in the jam is very sien one.
What more have to squeeze in the KTM Komuter!

Getting out from home to relax also.
I pukul enam sudah habis kerja. hehe...can swim on weekdays some more.
The swimming pool is also nearby.

But Guen Boh, I still envy you. The swimming pool at your place is beautiful at night ! Can we have the party at your place next month? June baby right?

[Adele]

better than getting stuck in the jam for at least an hour or more a day. Waste petrol, waste time. getting stuck in the jam is very sien one.
What more have to squeeze in the KTM Komuter!

Getting out from home to relax also.
I pukul enam sudah habis kerja. hehe...can swim on weekdays some more.
The swimming pool is also nearby.

But Guen Boh, I still envy you. The swimming pool at your place is beautiful at night ! Can we have the party at your place next month? June baby right?

ala.... dah cukup la dengan si KTM tu...! sigh.... hehe... oh, but one thing i'm definitely jealous... SWIMMING!! i miss it..... sigh... yay!! can we have a pool party at Guen Boh's in June?? that'll be fun!! :)

[Ah Boh]

okaaaayyyy...

*ting.. tong.. ting..*

diminta maaf, rancangan tergendala sebentar... sila bersambung menyertai kami di rancangan Genting Getaway Carry Over. terima kasih...

*ting.. tong.. ting..*

[Lava Gal]

At the moment, I am doing something I have passion for. I work from home, don't drive to work, have quite some good food to eat around here, it is near Leisure Mall can go to KLCC, flexible working hours, can cabut anytime!! :D
now now...living in your office...i'd naturallly think that person would be a workaholic...but u, malcolm! are an exception to the rule *kudos*!
u r having a better life now...enjoy it to the max :D

[Ah Boh]

malcolm, pool or no pool, i still envy u cuz no need travel to work! dats d worst part cuz i drag my butt off d bed every single morning b4 dawn n then work till late by d time i return home its dark... i nvr see d sun for 5 days evry week! so pathetic... d only consolation is dat i remain fair n not hafta worry about sunspots.

[malcolm]

malcolm, pool or no pool, i still envy u cuz no need travel to work! dats d worst part cuz i drag my butt off d bed every single morning b4 dawn n then work till late by d time i return home its dark... i nvr see d sun for 5 days evry week! so pathetic... d only consolation is dat i remain fair n not hafta worry about sunspots.

From this month onwards, I am trying to sleep early and wake up early.
I have been wanting to be a morning person for a long time but I am so addicted to the Internet. At times I just get glued to to my laptop chatting with friends, writing some post on a blog, fiddle with some of my old programming projects in uni and etc etc etc etc.

Chatting on Yahoo! is my addiction. I seem to like to kacau ppl online by buzzing my friends. hehe :D

How to be more discipline ar? Be in bed by 10pm and wake up by 6am.
I do need 8 hours of sleep one.. I am just like a baby la...hehe
Less 30 minutes and the whole day will just be not productive.
Then I will resort to curi-curi chat online in the day since I can't think much.
When boss comes, I will quickly turn it off! muahahahahaha...

[Lava Gal]

ah boh ah...i understand how u feel!
i had that regime while doing my posting in IJN & HOSPIS Malaysia earlier this yr. i was bunking in with Buvana for a month in puchong...and though the places would have been so near if only PUCHONG had some lrt or even the soooo unlikable KTM...but nope...all it had were buses...and i had to wake up at 5, catch 6am bus...and somedays arrived home close to 8pm.
boy...was i glad that it wasnt my fized routine! though it was great to be staying with frenz though ;)

From this month onwards, I am trying to sleep early and wake up early.
I have been wanting to be a morning person for a long time but I am so addicted to the Internet. At times I just get glued to to my laptop chatting with friends, writing some post on a blog, fiddle with some of my old programming projects in uni and etc etc etc etc.

Chatting on Yahoo! is my addiction. I seem to like to kacau ppl online by buzzing my friends. hehe :D

How to be more discipline ar? Be in bed by 10pm and wake up by 6am.
I do need 8 hours of sleep one.. I am just like a baby la...hehe
Less 30 minutes and the whole day will just be not productive.
Then I will resort to curi-curi chat online in the day since I can't think much.
When boss comes, I will quickly turn it off! muahahahahaha...
haha...malcolm ohhh malcolm! discipline ah...it has to dawn on us lar...in do or die situations, it will take over ur life. trust me...i normally sleep alot too...sometimes even more than 8hrs in total/day (cant believe im a medic student and can sleep so much!) tatz bcuz sometimes when i reach home...i cant do anything else, but ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ur addiction heh...miss those yahoo days & msn days of mine. i used to 'kacau' ppl as a means to keep me awake & cont studying (intervals la) too..

u blog?? whats the link? personal or MMU alumni one?

[malcolm]

some MMU organization.

personal? hopefully soon.

http://malcolm.mmuzone.com
Nothing there yet.

[Lava Gal]

malc...bring it on, buddy! the world is waiting for ur blog ;)

[Adele]

malc...bring it on, buddy! the world is waiting for ur blog ;)

i'm part of this world and i'm NOT waiting for malc's blog :p speak for yourself my Lava Girl dear.... hehe... no offense Malc!! :)

[Lava Gal]

i'm part of this world and i'm NOT waiting for malc's blog :p speak for yourself my Lava Girl dear.... hehe... no offense Malc!! :)
ei...i said that to motivate him to start writing la. apalah u...potong stim je :p
shoo...shoooo

btw it was there...something like 'hello world' or something! :)

[Adele]

ei...i said that to motivate him to start writing la. apalah u...potong stim je :p
shoo...shoooo

btw it was there...something like 'hello world' or something! :)

ya, i know. i always cam tu! sampai hawk selalu say,"eh, can layan abit anot??" hehehe.... anyway, sorry eh Malc! i dah kata dah, no offense anyway.

wat hello world all girl?? k la, k la.... i pi main jauh-jauh. bila ada mood, i datang kacau again. hehehe....

[Lava Gal]

ya, i know. i always cam tu! sampai hawk selalu say,"eh, can layan abit anot??" hehehe.... anyway, sorry eh Malc! i dah kata dah, no offense anyway.

wat hello world all girl?? k la, k la.... i pi main jauh-jauh. bila ada mood, i datang kacau again. hehehe....
if u bothered clicking on the link malc posted, u wont ask me that bolded part :p

anyway...i have to pi jauh oso...coz we all off topic. then when bobo comesback....meletup lar!:weird:

[Adele]

if u bothered clicking on the link malc posted, u wont ask me that bolded part :p

anyway...i have to pi jauh oso...coz we all off topic. then when bobo comesback....meletup lar!:weird:

hehehe...ok, ok... boh, we balik KERJA ya!! :D

[Lava Gal]

hehehe...ok, ok... boh, we balik KERJA ya!! :D
KERJA???

dalam forum...or dalam office? :p

[Adele]

KERJA???

dalam forum...or dalam office? :p

eitherways la... at least we tak terpesong topic kan?? hehehe....

[malcolm]

sorry....was away. found out this afternoon that one of my car tyre was flat.

changed the tyre just now. Test drive around here.
Since it is raining, tak jadi keluar to fix the flat tyre!

How much does it cost to patch up the hole for a no-tube tyre? (i think mine is without tube).
What about tyre with tube? How much ar?

anyone knows??

[Adele]

sorry....was away. found out this afternoon that one of my car tyre was flat.

changed the tyre just now. Test drive around here.
Since it is raining, tak jadi keluar to fix the flat tyre!

How much does it cost to patch up the hole for a no-tube tyre? (i think mine is without tube).
What about tyre with tube? How much ar?

anyone knows??

oi!! ini pasal kerja ke?? you silap tempat edi la... anyway, if you kawan with the guy, it's only RM2. if not, it's RM5. not more than RM8 no matter wat. if yes, then you kena tipu edi.:)

[Lava Gal]

oh u poor dear!

dont u need to specify ur tyre type, malc? so that ppl can give u estimate...

hehe...sorry la, ini totally out of my knowledge, ask me bicycle tyre i know la :p RM6 in seremban, jln rasah (special price for me ;))

[Lava Gal]

oi!! ini pasal kerja ke?? you silap tempat edi la... anyway, if you kawan with the guy, it's only RM2. if not, it's RM5. not more than RM8 no matter wat. if yes, then you kena tipu edi.:)
erm...was thinkin its off topic. but since transport related to work...somehow related?

oh...talking bout PATCHING ah? i tot changing tyre...maaf dipinta!:o

[malcolm]

oh u poor dear!

dont u need to specify ur tyre type, malc? so that ppl can give u estimate...

hehe...sorry la, ini totally out of my knowledge, ask me bicycle tyre i know la :p RM6 in seremban, jln rasah (special price for me ;))


hmm....normal Silverstone tyre of a Saga (not sport rim)

[Adele]

erm...was thinkin its off topic. but since transport related to work...somehow related?

oh...talking bout PATCHING ah? i tot changing tyre...maaf dipinta!:o

hehe... tapi kan, budak malc ni mana ada drive to 'work'??!!

[malcolm]

erm...was thinkin its off topic. but since transport related to work...somehow related?

oh...talking bout PATCHING ah? i tot changing tyre...maaf dipinta!:o

car problem during work time la.... cannot drive to the mosque just now. so my other colleague drove.

hmm... patching!!!! tomorrow do la.... cabut...dont need to do work...go relax :D

[malcolm]

hehe... tapi kan, budak malc ni mana ada drive to 'work'??!!

hohoho
drive out from workplace.. ;)

[malcolm]

it was really funny just now. When i was at the parking bay, I saw my car senget. hehehe
hmm... From far, I thought my glasses was senget la...

Mana tau when I reversed, the car was really senget!!!!! hahahahahhaa :p
darn

[malcolm]

these adele ar....
must have cursed me yesterday.

[Adele]

it was really funny just now. When i was at the parking bay, I saw my car senget. hehehe
hmm... From far, I thought my glasses was senget la...

Mana tau when I reversed, the car was really senget!!!!! hahahahahhaa :p
darn

LOL!! COULDN'T HELP LOOKING LIKE A WEIRDO, SICKO FOR A MOMENT THERE IN OFFICE! AAAAAAAARGH! YOU AH!! lawak betul!

[Adele]

these adele ar....
must have cursed me yesterday.

hey!! tiba-tiba only!! wat did i do to you la???!:unsure: :confused: :mad:

[malcolm]

LOL!! COULDN'T HELP LOOKING LIKE A WEIRDO, SICKO FOR A MOMENT THERE IN OFFICE! AAAAAAAARGH! YOU AH!! lawak betul!


hahaha... really... I was giggling in the car when I reversed the car..
It made that weird screeching sound. ops...
imbangan tak betul...
haha
I was thinking...next time should check the tyres when I think the car is slanting to one side.

ok...brb...bathe first.. :p

[Lava Gal]

LOL!! COULDN'T HELP LOOKING LIKE A WEIRDO, SICKO FOR A MOMENT THERE IN OFFICE! AAAAAAAARGH! YOU AH!! lawak betul!
same-same here!

hey!! tiba-tiba only!! wat did i do to you la???!:unsure: :confused: :mad:
i know...i know!!


issshhh...now lah he must go mandi!:sus:

[Adele]

issshhh...now lah he must go mandi!:sus:

his tactic la to escape bombardments!! bagi chan this time... wait next time if he kena kan me lagi teruk, i call my hawk. hah! padan muka kang! jangan nangis! :p hehehehe....

[malcolm]

his tactic la to escape bombardments!! bagi chan this time... wait next time if he kena kan me lagi teruk, i call my hawk. hah! padan muka kang! jangan nangis! :p hehehehe....

adele calling hawk: "sayang!!! malc buli me!!"
hawk: "What? :D "

[Adele]

adele calling hawk: "sayang!!! malc buli me!!"
hawk: "What? :D "
don't push it!! :rolleyes:

[malcolm]

don't push it!! :rolleyes:

okok

*bow*
soli princess adele!
:p

[Lava Gal]

boss left dee?
how come i dun see u on yahoomess?

[LiLiaN]

ehem, back to topic please :)

[malcolm]

ehem, back to topic please :)

hehehe...
we are easily swayed... :D

[siehjin]

hmmm... quite off topic la, talking about tayars and whatnot...=P

anyway, for me, i expected to make the transition from academic life to working life without a hitch... hehe, guess i tend to think myself more capable than i really am... because adapting to working life was much more difficult than i anticipated.

and i was working in a college (as a student counsellor), which means my environment was actually more sheltered in comparison to those of u in the big, bad corporate world... not much of office politics, corruption and etc... but still found it hard.

for one thing, i couldn't ponteng anymore... uni days, i could ponteng as much as i wanted to and still get the grades... working, cannot ponteng one...

then, when i found myself unhappy in my job and was thinking of changing jobs, i realised how different working is to studying... in academic life, everything is planned out (e.g. 2 years form 6, then 3 years degree, then graduate). but now that we've graduated, our whole lives stretch out before us... and we could do (almost) ANYTHING!

so many choices... and each choice has implications and consequences which are greater than those we had to make in uni... also got more things to worry abt now... paying rent, transport, food... things that used to be no prob...

i guess in some ways i miss the carefree student days... (mayb for medic students like lavanya not so carefree... haha thank God i didn't do medic after all) but growth and maturity are found in moving forwards, not backwards... although sometimes life seems so much more difficult and dreary than it used to be, meeting those challenges and overcoming them is part of becoming an adult...

so, though i cherish the past, i strive to enjoy the present... and as for the future, i believe that the best is yet to be! =)

ok, that's a pretty long post... hope i hvn't bored everyone to death...=) look forward to hearing other's opinions on this interesting conversation topic.

p.s. about unemployment, i think it's mostly ppl who can't spk english who can't get employment... for those of us proficient in the 'international' language, it shouldn't be a problem. just my 2 cents.=P

[Lava Gal]

well sieh jin, ur post speaks of the maturity u have now attained ;)

and erm...we all do tend to get off topic, and when in the heat of conversation :o Sorry Lil...and tanx to sieh jin who brought the thread back to right topic.
long posts...worry not, u'll find there are many in here.

so...do u think being a young adult, and working in a college...u can connect better with the students, who r just around our age??

[siehjin]

haha, actually i'm not working in the college anymore... i'm a contract staff with an NGO now (read my intro/'registration' info carefully).

anyway, the college i was in, their main programmes were a-levels n ausmat... students 18-19 yrs old. so abt 5 years age gap from me la. i found that, ya, i could connect with them without much prob.=)

[Lava Gal]

sorry...my bad.:o yup, realized that much later, after i posted the above one

so now....u deal wif ppl from all walks of life? any collleagues...or u alone? like imu ah...they have 1 counsellor...sorang je. sooo boring, kan? but she's super frenly to everyone...haha, nature of job oso ma.

[malcolm]

hey!!
I fixed my tyre during working hours... not bad.. The tyre shops are just around here. Cost me RM 130 for a Michelin tyre.

I have good bosses. That explains why I can go out anytime...hehehe.
Working life is good! Flexible working hours - good for programmers!

hello Sieh Jin! I found the map to your workplace here:
http://su.org.my/content/view/75/34/
:D

[ryan_khoo82]

haha, actually i'm not working in the college anymore... i'm a contract staff with an NGO now (read my intro/'registration' info carefully).

anyway, the college i was in, their main programmes were a-levels n ausmat... students 18-19 yrs old. so abt 5 years age gap from me la. i found that, ya, i could connect with them without much prob.=)

Sieh Jin! Nice seeing you here.

Saw Malcolm's link to the NGO you're working with. So I see you've chosen a distinct path in life compared to the rest of us. Hope it does yourself and others good.

So how long have you been there so far?

[siehjin]

Lavanya:
no prob... it was abit too brief, mayb not clear enough.=)

now, i work with secondary school students... slightly larger age gap, but i think still can connect... at least i hope so la, and they're not thinking "who's this wierd old guy who's trying to make friends with me?!?" hahaha.

colleagues, ya i have colleagues... previous job don hv; like yr college counsellor, i held the fort alone... my colleagues, they are older than me... but so far no probs la, can get along pretty well... haven't really gelled together yet, that will probably take abit more time as we work together on various projects...

Malcolm
wow, u found our website! hehehe. since u all now know where i work, come find me if u happen to be in the vicinity la=)

Chung Ming
distinct path in life? well... i guess so!=) actually things aren't set in concrete yet, i'm a contract staff... it's kinda like a probation period for me to c if i really wan to commit to the organization and also for them to see if they realy wan to hire me... after 3 months i can apply to be a full-time staff lor.

one of the options still floating for me is teaching... i've applied online for kpli (kursus perguruan lepasan ijazah). but actually i'm happy where i am at the moment, so i'm a little worried about which path i should choose if my application is actually successful! =P on a side note, i just heard today that ling fong is currently doing kpli...

i've only been with Scripture Union for about a month and a half now... i think the rest of u who didn't do stpm have about 2 year of working experience behind u already right? not like me, still fresh n trying to find my feet...=)

thanks for the encouragement ("hope it does others and yourself good"). that's my hope too; to impact the lives of young people in a positive way. that's one reason why i'm considering teaching; as a teacher i'd have the privilege of being involved in shaping and guiding many young lives. hopefully i don give them any 'ajaran sesat' la, haha!=D

All
haha, actually we've sidetracked again haven't we? supposed to be discussing academic life vs. working life and the issue of unemployment. nevertheless, i'm glad to catch up with u all... please reciprocate! i'd love to know what's been going on in your lives too...=)

[Adele]

hey!!
I fixed my tyre during working hours... not bad.. The tyre shops are just around here. Cost me RM 130 for a Michelin tyre.

so cheap!!??!!:huh:

All
haha, actually we've sidetracked again haven't we? supposed to be discussing academic life vs. working life and the issue of unemployment. nevertheless, i'm glad to catch up with u all... please reciprocate! i'd love to know what's been going on in your lives too...=)

enjoyed academic life. enjoying working life (albeit the long hours). never feared unemployment. (ok, maybe a little after i graduated but that was because i didn't know what i want to do and not because i can't get a job. that thought never crossed my mind.)

it's good that we have more humane friends like you working in the NGO and preferring career paths that are so noble as teaching. unlike us in the corporate world where climbing high at all cost only matters. it's only when you have God to ground you to the things and people who truly matters in your life that you remain sane. :) cheers!

[malcolm]

so cheap!!??!!:huh:

standard already RM 130. went to 2 shops to checkout.

So you ppl out there, try not to park at secluded parking lots especially on a working day.
Someone mischievious person may just want to puncture your tyre. One foreman at the tyre shop suspected so; pointed me the cut too. Sigh...

I didn't need to think of all these when I was studying. Working life a little more complex...
Do you drive Sieh Jin

[siehjin]

Chui Lin:
hey!=) thanks for the compliment... actually i'm wondering if it's true that i'm more 'humane' n 'noble', heheh... i guess it's just that my personality, my values, and my mix of capabilities makes me more suitable for this kind of job rather than the corporate kind... and in a way, i wonder if it's abit 'cowardly' of me, to run away from the big, bad corporate world and just hide in a more sheltered environment...

i'd also challenge the idea that in the corporate world, "climbing high at all cost only matters"... and i think u know that, as u mentioned some of the things that "truly matters" in your next line.=)

as christians, we talk about the idea of vocation or calling (does islam have this concept too, malcolm? lavanya, what about hinduism?) meaning that we're not at our jobs just to get bread, or just to get ahead... but that we're called by God to fulfill His purposes in the work that we do. the troublesome part for some, is finding out what those purposes are...=)

Malcolm:
well, i have a driver's licence but no car at the moment... my dad did offer to get me one, but with my present salary i don't think i can afford the maintenance and the petrol, so i told him "not yet"... hopefully i'll learn to drive the office van soon, then i can start driving that when i need to go on short trips... but another problem would be, i'm not familiar with kl roads and my sense of direction sucks... i can see myself getting lost in kl every day when i eventually try to drive.=)

[Lava Gal]

i will answer sieh jin in chit chat thread yea...would be way off topic if i say things here...haha

and yup...big bad corporate world!
but :( to say, even in vocations (notice the choice of word...intentional :)) like medicine...ppl still wanna play dirty, though its supposed to be abt teamwork...Welcome to the real world!
not all la...but hmmm...have seen quite alot. sad sad case...

Sieh Jin> bout ling fong...well, thats news! any way of getting her in here...u keeping in touch wif her?
well...well....from chicken farm to school. not bad LF eh.
hehe...but i can nvr imagine YinFen following same route :p

[Ah Boh]

my oh my... sum ppl is gonna kena kicking fm me eh.

hehe... i speed read those posts dat keluar topic... *tsk tsk tsk* u ppl shud know better, lucky lilian came to my rescue n reminded to balik topik. if not... u dun wanna know my friends, mwuahahaaa...

anyway keep up d good job ppl, i like to read on wat everyone's doing :) hope u all enjoy it too.

[Lava Gal]

yup...its cho nice to read bout where old-friends are, and what they r up to - thatz wat i call keepin' in touch :)

[malcolm]

Malcolm:
well, i have a driver's licence but no car at the moment... my dad did offer to get me one, but with my present salary i don't think i can afford the maintenance and the petrol, so i told him "not yet"... hopefully i'll learn to drive the office van soon, then i can start driving that when i need to go on short trips... but another problem would be, i'm not familiar with kl roads and my sense of direction sucks... i can see myself getting lost in kl every day when i eventually try to drive.=)

if your nature of your job doesn't require you to travel regularly and public transport is convenient, I suggest not to drive a car unless someone is paying the bills of your car!!! :D

My friends drive to work, pay tolls, pay parking - they don't have money money left by the end of the month. Save now Sieh Jin!

One day, all of us may have to cycle to work. I used to cycle/walk to campus during my uni years.

[Lava Gal]

hehe...malcolm, tatz a very sound advice.

i used to tell myself...when i start working, i will get a car 1st.
but now, with the increase in fuel + toll price...not to mention abt maintenance etc etc...if i am living in a houseman quarters drg my beginner yrs as a junior doc, am thinking "why shud i get a car??"

with the meager salary...hmmmm. so now new line of thinking...i wouldnt mind maintaining wif a bicycle to get around whicheva town i'm posted to ;) and well...that will help me get some 'exercise' which even now i dun have time for :(


siehjin..dun worry abt getting lost. alot of ppl think that way when they are new drivers in kl. but when they are used to it..then...pro dee la

[siehjin]

Malcolm:
yups... i used to walk from my kolej (residential hall) to my faculty too... but haven't gone cycling for a long, long time now... no bike here in kl...=s

Lavanya
thanks for the encouragement... will remember it when or if i eventually start driving.=)

[Ah Boh]

better drive an auto in kl, traffic is snarling mad at peak times.

[siehjin]

actually, i would prefer a manual car... because:
1. it's cheaper
2. there's less chance of things going wrong (simpler system mah)
3. i've more control over d car's acceleration and deceleration
4. i've more control over d car's petrol consumption
5. somehow, is more 'fun' to drive=)

guess both also got their pros n cons la...

[Lava Gal]

welcome jin...frenz give each other some perks now & then. so, started driving office vvan yet?

k gotta run..see ya guys tom!

[Ah Boh]

when i was studying, i tot exams were the curse of my life. when im working, i tot my boss + deadlines are a worst curse. Separately, im confident i can cope cuz its challenging and wat is life without challenges eh?

but guess wat, i didnt tot of that until now when im a 'working student' (work full time n study part time) n i finally realised the worst-est curse of them all is having to cope with exams + boss + deadlines simultaneously!

i fell like this is d most suffering time i have thru to reach the light at d end... die loh... if i cud go back in time, i might think twice.

[siehjin]

Lavanya:
nope, haven't tried out the van yet... i'm on holiday now actually, in kota kinabalu visiting my mom n dad.=) will be back in kl on saturday.

Guenboh
yeah, i can imagine the stress... most of my friends who are accountants and actuarists are also suffering the 'work and study' double burden. but for every external paper they pass, their salary gets bumped up a few hundred... so i guess that's a pretty good incentive.=)

apart from the money, i'd think that the sense of personal achievement and the fact that u r becoming a better and better expert in your field should help u keep going thru the tough times. so, don't give up! =)

[song cm]

when i was studying, i tot exams were the curse of my life. when im working, i tot my boss + deadlines are a worst curse. Separately, im confident i can cope cuz its challenging and wat is life without challenges eh?

but guess wat, i didnt tot of that until now when im a 'working student' (work full time n study part time) n i finally realised the worst-est curse of them all is having to cope with exams + boss + deadlines simultaneously!

i fell like this is d most suffering time i have thru to reach the light at d end... die loh... if i cud go back in time, i might think twice.

Wat exams are u taking? CIMA isit? dats a tough one....I was lucky dat I took my ACCA fulltime....so when I came to Penang to work in PwC, I have the luxury to witness my colleagues working n studying at the same time.....

On the subject Study Life vs Working life....I do miss the care free days during my U days.....but nothing can beat earning n spending your money...:)

[SS2006]

On the subject Study Life vs Working life....I do miss the care free days during my U days.....but nothing can beat earning n spending your money...:)
Besides spending money, can also spend your off days doing nothing without feeling guilty of not studying. Study life...go holiday also must pack the school books/ notes along. Think about it also scared liao:squeeze:

[song cm]

Besides spending money, can also spend your off days doing nothing without feeling guilty of not studying. Study life...go holiday also must pack the school books/ notes along. Think about it also scared liao:squeeze:

haha...u sure?
wat abt feeling guilty of not working?? :laugh: ....a definite NO rite?

but the prob is ppl will always call u when u r on leave....:(

[SS2006]

haha...u sure?
wat abt feeling guilty of not working?? :laugh: ....a definite NO rite?

but the prob is ppl will always call u when u r on leave....:(
My work more hands on one, so not many times get called when i'm on leave. Even if get called when i on leave, it means they need something urgently and need my advise on where i've left off so that other colig can take over the task. When i come back, my outstanding job already done...isn't this better?:D

[Lava Gal]

when i was studying, i tot exams were the curse of my life. when im working, i tot my boss + deadlines are a worst curse. Separately, im confident i can cope cuz its challenging and wat is life without challenges eh?

but guess wat, i didnt tot of that until now when im a 'working student' (work full time n study part time) n i finally realised the worst-est curse of them all is having to cope with exams + boss + deadlines simultaneously!

i fell like this is d most suffering time i have thru to reach the light at d end... die loh... if i cud go back in time, i might think twice.
*hugs* boh!
as ur principle goes....Cest la Vie!
Susah-susah dahulu, senang-senang kemudian. i agree wif SiehJin the only reason working ppl (wif deadlines & being dead tired after a long long day at work) would take up part-time studies is to better themselves & pave the way for bigger fatter pay ;)..and continuously keeping up to date with ur profession, compared to colleagues who have lost touch wif studying world, im sure...gambateh!

Lavanya:
nope, haven't tried out the van yet... i'm on holiday now actually, in kota kinabalu visiting my mom n dad.=) will be back in kl on saturday.
i see...happy hols, sieh jin! no wonder u so free la...hehehe.
so, ur dad has a clinic in KK or working for some private hosp?
the clinic in CTA1 tutup dee, or pass-over to s1 else?

haha...u sure?
wat abt feeling guilty of not working?? :laugh: ....a definite NO rite?

but the prob is ppl will always call u when u r on leave....:(
wah low...real workaholic lah if like that.
when on hols, enjoy hols & concentrate 100% on relaxing..when at work, concentrate 100% on work (doesnt apply to any forummers, tat i'm 100% sure) :p

[SS2006]

*when on hols, enjoy hols & concentrate 100% on relaxing..when at work, concentrate 100% on work (doesnt apply to any forummers, tat i'm 100% sure) :p
Lava...you are so smart.:D When you're gonna start working? Hope you'll still have time to join us in forum then.

[Ah Boh]

Guenboh
yeah, i can imagine the stress... most of my friends who are accountants and actuarists are also suffering the 'work and study' double burden. but for every external paper they pass, their salary gets bumped up a few hundred... so i guess that's a pretty good incentive.=)

apart from the money, i'd think that the sense of personal achievement and the fact that u r becoming a better and better expert in your field should help u keep going thru the tough times. so, don't give up! =)

thankx for d encouragement! as for d salary bumping upwards, i think no such trend exist in my co. lah, boss kiamsap fella, cheh... anyway i'd rather do it for personal achievement as u say rather than to impress any1.

Wat exams are u taking? CIMA isit? dats a tough one....I was lucky dat I took my ACCA fulltime....so when I came to Penang to work in PwC, I have the luxury to witness my colleagues working n studying at the same time.....

On the subject Study Life vs Working life....I do miss the care free days during my U days.....but nothing can beat earning n spending your money...:)

yeah, sumtimes i wonder why i chose cima cuz its tougher than acca (according to my seniors lah) but then i do like the syllabus better. i once had d luxury to study it fulltime but impatient & ambitious me wanted to break into corporate life asap n earn my own $$ so i grab d first good job dat came along.

[song cm]

thankx for d encouragement! as for d salary bumping upwards, i think no such trend exist in my co. lah, boss kiamsap fella, cheh... anyway i'd rather do it for personal achievement as u say rather than to impress any1.



yeah, sumtimes i wonder why i chose cima cuz its tougher than acca(according to my seniors lah) but then i do like the syllabus better. i once had d luxury to study it fulltime but impatient & ambitious me wanted to break into corporate life asap n earn my own $$ so i grab d first good job dat came along.

haha...u can always change job larr....

[athena]

haha...u can always change job larr....
wanna join silterra??? :laugh:

[Ah Boh]

oho...not so easy now dat its d 'employers market' as they call it.

im ok with my job cuz i do find it challenging enuf n d pay + benefits are satisfactory, im just not too happy with my boss n a couple of egoistic collegues but watodo, no such thing as an ideal job.

im esp amazed by the benefits they offered. i mean for eg my co. have 10 different types of leave, my fav at the moment being paid study leave (max 7 days p.a.) & exam leave (unlimited) :)

[song cm]

wanna join silterra??? :laugh:

haha...sorry no vacancy....but if you pm me your phone no, I can KIV.....:) :laugh:

[song cm]

oho...not so easy now dat its d 'employers market' as they call it.

im ok with my job cuz i do find it challenging enuf n d pay + benefits are satisfactory, im just not too happy with my boss n a couple of egoistic collegues but watodo, no such thing as an ideal job.

im esp amazed by the benefits they offered. i mean for eg my co. have 10 different types of leave, my fav at the moment being paid study leave (max 7 days p.a.) & exam leave (unlimited) :)

dats pretty good....btw, where r u attached to? accounting firm??

[Ah Boh]

dats pretty good....btw, where r u attached to? accounting firm??

nah, its a property development group, Bandar Raya Developments Berhad (BRDB). somehow i cant stand accounts firm cuz they always ask me to do audit work which i simply dislike.

omigosh lunch hr over liao so fast. i gtg, boss asking me to proofread statutory accounts before send to Bursa. cya later.

[Ah Boh]

wanna join silterra??? :laugh:

eh? wat is silterra?

[song cm]

nah, its a property development group, Bandar Raya Developments Berhad (BRDB). somehow i cant stand accounts firm cuz they always ask me to do audit work which i simply dislike.

omigosh lunch hr over liao so fast. i gtg, boss asking me to proofread statutory accounts before send to Bursa. cya later.
ohh...property dev.....thank goodness they deferred GST...if not how are u guys gonna split between GST exempt and non-exempt transactions...:confused:

eh? wat is silterra?
silterra is a wafer foundry company located in Kulim...dats where i work...

[malcolm]

ohh...property dev.....thank goodness they deferred GST...if not how are u guys gonna split between GST exempt and non-exempt transactions...:confused:


silterra is a wafer foundry company located in Kulim...dats where i work...

mr Song...what do u do in that company? :)
Financial Controller ar
hehe

[athena]

mr Song...what do u do in that company? :)
Financial Controller ar
hehe
Mr song is not an engineer, if that's what you're thinking...:)

[SS2006]

mr Song...what do u do in that company? :)
Financial Controller ar
hehe
Mr Song is in the top management, Malcolm. So now you know what top management people are doing most of the time...and why they always look so busy at 'working' their computer?;) :p

[song cm]

aiseh...don ler call me Mr Song...me not dat old larr....:p

me not FC....FM nia....so onli middle management, dats why still can forum...:)

[Chris C]

aiseh...don ler call me Mr Song...me not dat old larr....:p

me not FC....FM nia....so onli middle management, dats why still can forum...:)
Uncle Song, can or not????:p :p

[athena]

.....and song takes a hit below the belt from Chris....

we'll hv more after this msg from our sponsors!!!

[song cm]

Uncle Song, can or not????:p :p

OMG...even u aso call me uncle....:amazed:

Can....now go and sit at the corner and don disturb uncle....:eek:

[song cm]

.....and song takes a hit below the belt from Chris....

we'll hv more after this msg from our sponsors!!!

i want to lodge an official complain liao....:cheesy:

[athena]

hehe...what complaint? :D

[Chris C]

OMG...even u aso call me uncle....:amazed:

Can....now go and sit at the corner and don disturb uncle....:eek:
Which corner???:p

[song cm]

hehe...what complaint? :D

sexual harassment....can?

Which corner???:p

the secluded one....:laugh:

[Chris C]

sexual harassment....can?
Dei!....i come to penang only u know......:p :p


the secluded one....:laugh:
:rolleyes:

[athena]

Dei!....i come to penang only u know......:p :p



:rolleyes:
if u do that Chris, song's dreams come true! :D

[Odysseus]

if u do that Chris, song's dreams come true! :D
Need whip? Get it from DPM :p

[Ah Boh]

uncle or apek??

u really Financial controller ah? can ask u stuff ah?

[Odysseus]

uncle or apek??

u really Financial controller ah? can ask u stuff ah?
Who are you talking to la....

[athena]

fyi, .....song is quite youthful looking.. :D quite hensem too ...hehe...

[Ah Boh]

ooops, sorry, im talking to Mr Song, where's he?

[malcolm]

call mr Song to be more respectful mar....

can call you Tan Sri Song also
hahahaha

FM? sure or not?

[malcolm]

so Tan Sri Song.... i believe you love your working life coz you learn "so much" in this forum!!
muehehehehe :eek:

[Ah Boh]

wat is Song doing?

[siehjin]

this isn't really related to the topic, but to answer lavanya's question:
my dad is with a private medical centre here in kk, called rafflesia medical centre. the clinic in sitiawan is no more.

back to studying vs working....

[song cm]

haha.....call me uncle, apek, tan sri.......:confused: .....wat else??

honestly....i prefer tai kor...sounds much better :)

oklarr....since this thread is abt study n working life...i graduated in 1993....decided to do my ACCA...completed them in 1994......came to penang to work.....(gf from penang mah).....work in PwC for 5 years...decided had enaf of service industry...went to Kulim to work in a manufacturing coy...still in Kulim at the moment....and nope, i am not a finance controller...not yet, i hope....:p

<ath, must belanja u horr>

[athena]

hehe....chendol & laksa?

[song cm]

hehe....chendol & laksa?

and sg ara dim sum full of deep frd stuff...yummy

[athena]

and sg ara dim sum full of deep frd stuff...yummy
wah...cannot sleep liao...hehhee.....drooling....hehe...gotta log off dy...ciao!

[song cm]

wah...cannot sleep liao...hehhee.....drooling....hehe...gotta log off dy...ciao!

haha...sorry....hey, don forget grey's later at 9.....

[ryan_khoo82]

ohh...property dev.....thank goodness they deferred GST...if not how are u guys gonna split between GST exempt and non-exempt transactions...:confused:

silterra is a wafer foundry company located in Kulim...dats where i work...

Agreed. Thank goodness they deferred GST. I know the Deloitte guys sure confused me... input tax, output tax and have to tag everything based on that :confused:

[malcolm]

Agreed. Thank goodness they deferred GST. I know the Deloitte guys sure confused me... input tax, output tax and have to tag everything based on that :confused:

The Deloitte guys confused you? What was confusing? :)

[song cm]

Agreed. Thank goodness they deferred GST. I know the Deloitte guys sure confused me... input tax, output tax and have to tag everything based on that :confused:

haha...of course they wanna confuse u...so that they can offer consultancy work or justify their HUGH fees......:amazed:

ryan, u aso accounts ppl arh? wat sector are u in? manufacturing?
mebbe we can start a thread on FRS and GST...:laugh:

[SS2006]

haha...of course they wanna confuse u...so that they can offer consultancy work or justify their HUGH fees......:amazed:

ryan, u aso accounts ppl arh? wat sector are u in? manufacturing?
mebbe we can start a thread on FRS and GST...:laugh:
That's the whole idea of implementing new things/ alwys changing the existing rules...to create job for CONsultants!!

[song cm]

That's the whole idea of implementing new things/ alwys changing the existing rules...to create job for CONsultants!!

BINGO.....<i hate changes.....more work for me>

[SS2006]

BINGO.....<i hate changes.....more work for me>
Me too...everytime there's some changes in the Quality system or at the customer site...a lot of work for me too.

[Ah Boh]

they change the freaking FRS (formally known as MASB) n now i gotta restate my 2006 a/c as well as 2005 a/c as comparative, plus amend my budget figures for variances... so much worK! sheesh...

[malcolm]

they change the freaking FRS (formally known as MASB) n now i gotta restate my 2006 a/c as well as 2005 a/c as comparative, plus amend my budget figures for variances... so much worK! sheesh...

wah...all the accounting jargons...
what is this FRS?

[Ah Boh]

wah...all the accounting jargons...
what is this FRS?

Financial Accounting Standards, previously we follow watever guidelines by Malaysian Accounting Standards Board but now superseeded by the former.

[song cm]

Financial Accounting Standards, previously we follow watever guidelines by Malaysian Accounting Standards Board but now superseeded by the former.
my worse nightmare...FRS 121 (Foreign currency)....:(

[ryan_khoo82]

haha...of course they wanna confuse u...so that they can offer consultancy work or justify their HUGH fees......:amazed:

ryan, u aso accounts ppl arh? wat sector are u in? manufacturing?
mebbe we can start a thread on FRS and GST...:laugh:

I'm in a bank. I actually am an engineering grad though I'm doing a bank job. Not really involved in GST implementation but everyone has to learn about it since its going to affect us one way or another.

Please... no thread on FRS or GST :D No need to jump the gun.

[song cm]

I'm in a bank. I actually am an engineering grad though I'm doing a bank job. Not really involved in GST implementation but everyone has to learn about it since its going to affect us one way or another.

Please... no thread on FRS or GST :D No need to jump the gun.

wow...wat a switch of carreer.......engineer working in a bank...why the sudden change of interest....

[ryan_khoo82]

wow...wat a switch of carreer.......engineer working in a bank...why the sudden change of interest....

Well.. for starters they are paying me better... second is economics and finance are my actual callings rather than engineering. I enjoy making money out of money... I sorta decided I'd be skipping fields right before my final year.

To top it all off, there is a very healthy women to men ratio in the banking industry ;) Good quality ones too!

[song cm]

Well.. for starters they are paying me better... second is economics and finance are my actual callings rather than engineering. I enjoy making money out of money... I sorta decided I'd be skipping fields right before my final year.

To top it all off, there is a very healthy women to men ratio in the banking industry ;) Good quality ones too!

haha....i like your last reason....:laugh:
just like when i started working in the auditing line many many many years ago.....the ratio was 5:1....:)

[Lava Gal]

i'm so lost in all these accounting & money talks...haha, u guys cont.
if any saving/financial tips ...do share-share oso la

[SS2006]

i'm so lost in all these accounting & money talks...haha, u guys cont.
if any saving/financial tips ...do share-share oso la
Dun worry Lav, me too. I prefer technical talk or medical talk still can understand a bit.

[Lava Gal]

*piak* hi-5 Shirlene!
haha...both of us so blurr about this topic eh...well, better not kacau their serious money-talks...i'm off for now :noworry:

[Oddfather]

haha....i like your last reason....:laugh:
just like when i started working in the auditing line many many many years ago.....the ratio was 5:1 ....:)
Is this true for the general population as well??

[Lava Gal]

if its true...:eek: gals are doomed!

[Oddfather]

if its true...:eek: gals are doomed!
guys would take their time picking, izit??

back in early 1980s........the ratio for the general population is 4:1 guys. So Mum ask me to take my time!!! :eek:

[song cm]

guys would take their time picking, izit??

back in early 1980s........the ratio for the general population is 4:1 guys. So Mum ask me to take my time!!! :eek:

u shld have married 4 at one go.....:laugh:

[Oddfather]

u shld have married 4 at one go.....:laugh:
:eek: :wacko: :worried:

[Chris C]

Oh, that's his secret wish Song.......:rolleyes: :p :p :p

Hey ryan, a good fren of mine too did what u did....took up engineering but end up working for a bk....doing well too...into forex...

[song cm]

Oh, that's his secret wish Song.......:rolleyes: :p :p

mebbe....but i think having 1 wife and 3 gfs is even better...:laugh:

[Chris C]

mebbe....but i think having 1 wife and 3 gfs is even better...:laugh:
U toking about youself?????:rolleyes::p

[song cm]

U toking about youself?????:rolleyes::p

i got more than 3 gfs worr...:p

[Chris C]

i got more than 3 gfs worr...:p
I know lah.......don't have to aksyen in here.....:p :p

[song cm]

I know lah.......don't have to aksyen in here.....:p :p

gf onli mah, no biggie....if lovers then diff liao.....:eek:

[SS2006]

guys would take their time picking, izit??

back in early 1980s........the ratio for the general population is 4:1 guys. So Mum ask me to take my time!!! :eek:
You sure or not? I think the statistic is 1+/1 guys only.

[malcolm]

You sure or not? I think the statistic is 1+/1 guys only.

1+ females : 1 guy is the ratio during the recent census a few years back.
In general, there are more females in universities than their male counter parts. That is what i realize during my campus days.

mebbe....but i think having 1 wife and 3 gfs is even better...:laugh:

yeah....
If you have 4 wives means you have 4 times the responsibilities. So work harder lor...hehehe Earn more money!! So if you want to enjoy, then don't do the Muslim way lor...hahahahaha

As for the 3gfs or mistresses, they don't have any rights, not even inheritance rights.

gf onli mah, no biggie....if lovers then diff liao.....:eek:
hehehe...the females are at the disadvantage eh... Can play around... :p

[malcolm]

if its true...:eek: gals are doomed!


yes girls!!! better rush to get your future husband!! make sure no other girls take away your guy especially if you are in the US. So many men are gays and there are so many females than males there.

hehehe Lavanya!! sudah jumpa any? you are still studying wor...

[Oddfather]

You sure or not? I think the statistic is 1+/1 guys only.
positive. it is official stats.

[ryan_khoo82]

Oh, that's his secret wish Song.......:rolleyes: :p

Hey ryan, a good fren of mine too did what u did....took up engineering but end up working for a bk....doing well too...into forex...

It's getting more common nowadays. The smart choice :amused:

[Chris C]

It's getting more common nowadays. The smart choice :amused:
:laugh:.....but definitely doesn't sound so syok when he complains about the odd hrs he have to work, dealing with the international market, and no local public hols for him to enjoy.....but the $$$ is certainly attractive....oh well, u win some, u loose some......;)

[Oddfather]

:laugh:.....but definitely doesn't sound so syok when he complains about the odd hrs he have to work, dealing with the international market, and no local public hols for him to enjoy.....but the $$$ is certainly attractive....oh well, u win some, u loose some......;)
well, he needs to calibrate to have a win win situation.

[malcolm]

hello people,

I have just posted about rising early .... :D

You can read them here.
http://malcolm.mmuzone.com/2006/05/18/rise-early/

[Lava Gal]

seems like there's a new blogger who's joined in the bandwagon! ;)

yes girls!!! better rush to get your future husband!! make sure no other girls take away your guy especially if you are in the US. So many men are gays and there are so many females than males there.

hehehe Lavanya!! sudah jumpa any? you are still studying wor...
Still studying ya lar tu...but number of ppl i meet limited. hehehe...anyway, sudah jumpa? can onli find when one is looking for it, rite? ;)

wat bout ur good self? working world less opportunity to find meh? hmm...med line ya lar...but corporate diff rite?

[SS2006]

seems like there's a new blogger who's joined in the bandwagon! ;)


Still studying ya lar tu...but number of ppl i meet limited. hehehe...anyway, sudah jumpa? can onli find when one is looking for it, rite? ;)

wat bout ur good self? working world less opportunity to find meh? hmm...med line ya lar...but corporate diff rite?
Hmmm...jumpa during study life vs jumpa during working life...still within topic, rite? I think during study time easier to find partner, you get to meet more people who have things in common with you, you know their background, and go out in group to know the person better before making your decision. More option too.
During working life, you only get to know your colleagues or business associates. If you are working in a small organisation, then the number of people you meet also limited.

[daBoss]

some more if you have to work long hours, you don't get to meet anyone at all... just the usual few faces... some of which you want to vomit blood (politics) when you look at them...

[SS2006]

some more if you have to work long hours, you don't get to meet anyone at all... just the usual few faces... some of which you want to vomit blood (politics) when you look at them...
That's true...i never got attracted to my colleagues. See them 8 hours per day, 5 days per week...so sien liao.

[daBoss]

That's true...i never got attracted to my colleagues. See them 8 hours per day, 5 days per week...so sien liao.
8 hours still ok... nowadays i meet my project mates and the customer team almost 14 hours a day... never meet anyone new at all... if i'm still single, i dun think i'll ever get to find anyone staying in my company...

[SS2006]

8 hours still ok... nowadays i meet my project mates and the customer team almost 14 hours a day... never meet anyone new at all... if i'm still single, i dun think i'll ever get to find anyone staying in my company...
Now i'm still at work! So it's already 13 hours at at today. Yeah, I shudder to think that if i had not met my husband, i would definitely still remain single...as i have not met anyone else after him whom i am attracted to.
2 of my female colleagues, in their early 30's, attractive and single...commented it's very difficult to find a suitable man at their age. This is what she said " 40% of the man ard this age group are GAY:eek: , 40% are married, left 20%. From the mere 20%, not easy to find one that is suitable.

[ryan_khoo82]

some more if you have to work long hours, you don't get to meet anyone at all... just the usual few faces... some of which you want to vomit blood (politics) when you look at them...

Talking bout that and linking to what Chris C said earlier, another perk of working in the bank is the high female to male ratio. So there's lots to look at. Dont mind watching for 8 hours a day :D Not to mention the fraternising involved hahaha.

[Chris C]

Talking bout that and linking to what Chris C said earlier, another perk of working in the bank is the high female to male ratio. So there's lots to look at. Dont mind watching for 8 hours a day :D Not to mention the fraternising involved hahaha.
:laugh: ....so how many caught your eyes???:cheesy:

[Lava Gal]

hahaha...nice to read the chats there. hmm...meeting the 'one' - those who have found urs...really mus count ur blessings lo :)

shirl has a point...about mingling part & all. daboss is oso rite about some ppl u cant tahan...but have to see the faces daily, and play it cool. mana nak find soul-mate!

though a student...i think i'm in pretty much wrong setting o find 'the one'...haha, maybe me too choosy or wat, i duno....coz i know wat i want, and not willing to settle for less. and trust me...the 1st few criteria itself so hard to find ppl who fit-in. so like wat sieh jin mentioned somewhere about his fear drg secondary school...hehe, i might lead a life of celibacy after all.

esp after today's O&G semiar i attended in Bkt Jll IMU...and talking to our lecturers & some drs about working life....i've really started to think would it be fair for patients, myself...and future famiy (if i settle & have one someday) for me to sacrifice dreams/working towards expanding career & passion VS compromising family member's needs!

its tough for gals in general...guys senang je, like wat dato siva told (our head of dep in imu) he married a teacher, who's able to care for kids...while he's busy attending all the calls etc. padahal poor gals...drams ada...sumore must compete wif guys in the competitive med world...and then as yrs go by...saham turun lagi. its usually all the good ones around u are taken...and those outside this profession will be 'fearful' of u dee...must clap 2 hands to produce sound mah. not easy peezy

so only thing possible is focus on day-to-day life...live to fullest...pursue dreams to be a complete being. if get s1 to share - cool! else...well...a gal can survive in today's world, nope? ;)
hope my parents can but these points....when the time comes. ohhh...tatz one reason i'm not looking forward to finish studies...housemanship etc etc...all ur relatives will 'start' as they cant stand seeing s1 single & happy :p must push u into the 'gaung'

[TK Ho]

Now i'm still at work! So it's already 13 hours at at today. Yeah, I shudder to think that if i had not met my husband, i would definitely still remain single...as i have not met anyone else after him whom i am attracted to.2 of my female colleagues, in their early 30's, attractive and single...commented it's very difficult to find a suitable man at their age. This is what she said " 40% of the man ard this age group are GAY:eek: , 40% are married, left 20%. From the mere 20%, not easy to find one that is suitable.

SS2006, it is only logical that you have not met someone else after your husband. If you do, hmmmm, something is wrong somewhere, no? :p

[Lava Gal]

SS2006, it is only logical that you have not met someone else after your husband. If you do, hmmmm, something is wrong somewhere, no? :p
hahhaaaa....LOL ROTF

tk ho ahhh....haha. i think she meant she never saw any1 wo could come anywhere close to hubby dearest in the sense of personality etc etc. anyway...when one is deeply in love, everyone else will seem trivial ;) i've heard...

[SS2006]

True also horr...:D

[alfred98]

The question is not how many after your hubby lah...SS2006.....Is how many before mah.....or else affair lor....:laugh:

[SS2006]

The question is not how many after your hubby lah...SS2006.....Is how many before mah.....or else affair lor....:laugh:
Before also none...that's why i say not easy for a lady to find a suitable life partner. :sad-2:

[siehjin]

lavanya, is it still the custom for parents to match-make for their children in your culture?

[TK Ho]

Before also none...that's why i say not easy for a lady to find a suitable life partner. :sad-2:

Too high expectation?:blink:

[Ah Boh]

hehehe...the females are at the disadvantage eh... Can play around... :p

U naughty boy!!

Tell ur mummy, then u kena :p

[Oddfather]

U naughty boy!!

Tell ur mummy, then u kena :p
Whack him lor.....

[malcolm]

U naughty boy!!

Tell ur mummy, then u kena :p

mummy!!!! Ah Boh tell lies!!! ;)

[Ah Boh]

mummy!!!! Ah Boh tell lies!!! ;)

I dunwan pollute tis thread with malcolm's gatalness ahh... so we continue in Chitchat'99 k :)

[song cm]

the good thing abt working life is come every month end....got ang pow for your month long hard work.....the problem however is dat quite a substantial sum is then used to pay off your house and car loans......:(

[athena]

i think most of us are poorer when we start working compared to studying!! hehe..

[song cm]

i think most of us are poorer when we start working compared to studying!! hehe..

haha...poorer in cash but richer in assets?? :laugh:

[malcolm]

i think most of us are poorer when we start working compared to studying!! hehe..

yeah.... i feel the same.
every ringgit counts...

[song cm]

yeah.... i feel the same.
every ringgit counts...

wait till u start having kids...dat time, ur money will be flowing out like a leaking tap....:eek:

[athena]

haha...poorer in cash but richer in assets?? :laugh:
i won't say that....more debts...and maybe spending habits changed....got plastic to swipe already mah ! :D

[song cm]

i won't say that....more debts...and maybe spending habits changed....got plastic to swipe already mah ! :D

haha...depends wat u spend on....if clothes, still assets mah? if food and hols, then its a "pleasure" assets....:)

[malcolm]

wait till u start having kids...dat time, ur money will be flowing out like a leaking tap....:eek:


hoho... need to find a money generating machine ady... :(

[Oddfather]

wait till u start having kids...dat time, ur money will be flowing out like a leaking tap....:eek:
How big is the leak?? :p

[Odysseus]

How big is the leak?? :p
Bomba fire hydrant?

[Oddfather]

Bomba fire hydrant?
then ask your daughter lor.....to plug the leak for you!!

[Odysseus]

then ask your daughter lor.....to plug the leak for you!!
That's reactive...... ask her not to cause leakages is better :p

[Oddfather]

That's reactive...... ask her not to cause leakages is better :p
Her services are better than the leak!!

[SS2006]

Her services are better than the leak!!
What service? I'm lost here:blink:

[Oddfather]

What service? I'm lost here:blink:
Go ask otuksi.....

[ryan_khoo82]

i think most of us are poorer when we start working compared to studying!! hehe..

Is it? It should be the other way round... couldn't afford the women while I was in Uni... at least now I can take them out and not worry about the wallet too much...

[song cm]

Is it? It should be the other way round... couldn't afford the women while I was in Uni... at least now I can take them out and not worry about the wallet too much...

i guess you are richer in companionship liao.....:D

[athena]

Is it? It should be the other way round... couldn't afford the women while I was in Uni... at least now I can take them out and not worry about the wallet too much...
hey lil bro....being in Uni, i felt very rich wor....haahaha.....

like that you must be earning tonnes!!!

[SS2006]

hey lil bro....being in Uni, i felt very rich wor....haahaha.....

like that you must be earning tonnes!!!
That's because you have a rich Dad, Ath.:)

[athena]

That's because you have a rich Dad, Ath.:)
no la....i went to UTM...fees dem cheap...hahaha..that's why extra spending money...hahaha

btw, ryan's my junior is uTM!

[SS2006]

no la....i went to UTM...fees dem cheap...hahaha..that's why extra spending money...hahaha

btw, ryan's my junior is uTM!
My U fees also cheap but i don't have that much extra spending money worr...I used < RM5k for my fees + lodging + food + pocket money per year. Now how to survive on this amount?

[athena]

coz you're in KL.....ours in JB...and outskirt of JB summore...cheap la!

[SS2006]

coz you're in KL.....ours in JB...and outskirt of JB summore...cheap la!
During your time still so outskirt meh? I went visiting the campus a few months ago, very near my aunt's house... not bad leh...not ulu at all.:)
During the early 90's a lot of parents very worried about their daughters going there...too ulu, and a lot of contruction going on then, so a lot of Indon worker there.

[TK Ho]

During your time still so outskirt meh? I went visiting the campus a few months ago, very near my aunt's house... not bad leh...not ulu at all.:)
During the early 90's a lot of parents very worried about their daughters going there...too ulu, and a lot of contruction going on then, so a lot of Indon worker there.

So, what was the worry-lah?

[Lava Gal]

lavanya, is it still the custom for parents to match-make for their children in your culture?
hmmm...adalah, quite rampant oso. esp if:
1/ getting older & still single
2/ some just wait for the kids to finish studying...have seen a few cases
3/ some are just against love coz they think they know better
...erm, are we getting off topic? still somewat related rite :p

Too high expectation?:blink:
hhaaha...i think u r rite la TK. and tatz not all bad...coz, that means one knows their own value, and not willing to settle for less *shrug* may...beee

[TK Ho]

hmmm...adalah, quite rampant oso. esp if:
1/ getting older & still single
2/ some just wait for the kids to finish studying...have seen a few cases
3/ some are just against love coz they think they know better
...erm, are we getting off topic? still somewat related rite :p


hhaaha...i think u r rite la TK. and tatz not all bad...coz, that means one knows their own value, and not willing to settle for less *shrug* may...beee

Can someone explain from a girl's perspective what they are looking for in finding partner? I mean nobody's perfect, rite? :wacko:

[ryan_khoo82]

coz you're in KL.....ours in JB...and outskirt of JB summore...cheap la!

No where is cheap when your girlfriend has expensive tastes :(

Had to resort to other methods to stop the outflow. Women appreciate a man who's good with his hands :D

[ryan_khoo82]

no la....i went to UTM...fees dem cheap...hahaha..that's why extra spending money...hahaha

btw, ryan's my junior is uTM!

There goes the secret :blink:

[ryan_khoo82]

i guess you are richer in companionship liao.....:D

Yup... but can't quite hang on to anyone in particular right now. Too focused on myself at this point in time :o So many things to accomplish, so little time.

[TK Ho]

Hmmmm.....consolidation of posts......he he

[Adele]

No where is cheap when your girlfriend has expensive tastes :(
no wonder i'm still single!! with guys like you all around, i'll just die a spinster la like this!! tak tau meh? susah-susah dahulu, senang-senang kemudian! so, suffer a bit la to get the girl, later she'll make it up to you wan.... :p

[TK Ho]

no wonder i'm still single!! with guys like you all around, i'll just die a spinster la like this!! tak tau meh? susah-susah dahulu, senang-senang kemudian! so, suffer a bit la to get the girl, later she'll make it up to you wan.... :p

My Baby Princess, it seems like it's the opposite for the girls-leh. Why not the girls susah susah dahulu, senang senang kemudian. So, go easy on the guys initially.:D

[ryan_khoo82]

no wonder i'm still single!! with guys like you all around, i'll just die a spinster la like this!! tak tau meh? susah-susah dahulu, senang-senang kemudian! so, suffer a bit la to get the girl, later she'll make it up to you wan.... :p

Haha... I already consider myself pretty generous compared to some others out there :D

Actually I don't mind spending on the ladies as long as we have lots of fun... problem is that not many ladies are able to let go easily... must be all the work stress or overly high expectations of dates.

I usually spend my first couple of dates with a new girl just assessing that bit... seeing what is behind the public mask and what kind of "fun-monster" she really is. If the indicators are good, cost doesn't matter... I pretty much blew away my study loan back in Uni on my last long-term girlfriend (thank god the stock market helped me recoup that :D ) but that was fun while it lasted.

People are always so reserved on first dates aren't they?

[Adele]

My Baby Princess, it seems like it's the opposite for the girls-leh. Why not the girls susah susah dahulu, senang senang kemudian. So, go easy on the guys initially.:D
no can do la.... girls are meant to be pampered. anyway, for me personally, i already the susah-susah all my life, the last thing i want is to get hitched to more trouble. not that not willing to suffer la...(kalau dah kahwin takkan la nak cerai kan?) but where got ppl so silly go cari susah wan?? if susah come then only face it well lor....
People are always so reserved on first dates aren't they?
not me! :p

[TK Ho]

no can do la.... girls are meant to be pampered. anyway, for me personally, i already the susah-susah all my life, the last thing i want is to get hitched to more trouble. not that not willing to suffer la...(kalau dah kahwin takkan la nak cerai kan?) but where got ppl so silly go cari susah wan?? if susah come then only face it well lor....

not me! :p


How-lah if there's no supply men with THE criterias? and what happens to equal rights-leh?

[Odysseus]

no can do la.... girls are meant to be pampered. anyway, for me personally, i already the susah-susah all my life, the last thing i want is to get hitched to more trouble. not that not willing to suffer la...(kalau dah kahwin takkan la nak cerai kan?) but where got ppl so silly go cari susah wan?? if susah come then only face it well lor....

I think everyone think like that lo...... even guys la.....:p So, becareful hor :p:cool:

[ryan_khoo82]

no can do la.... girls are meant to be pampered. anyway, for me personally, i already the susah-susah all my life, the last thing i want is to get hitched to more trouble. not that not willing to suffer la...(kalau dah kahwin takkan la nak cerai kan?) but where got ppl so silly go cari susah wan?? if susah come then only face it well lor....



Actually I kinda agree with the fact that girls are meant to be pampered... I know it sounds cliche but men should just suck it in and make them happy whenever you can...

I always get a certain satisfaction watching a girl getting what she wants knowing that I played a role in it (and the possible rewards later :D)

[ryan_khoo82]

How-lah if there's no supply men with THE criterias? and what happens to equal rights-leh?

Equal rights is only applicable when the girl happen to be in a disadvantage...

In all other situations, the rule is lady's first...

[TK Ho]

Actually I kinda agree with the fact that girls are meant to be pampered... I know it sounds cliche but men should just suck it in and make them happy whenever you can...

I always get a certain satisfaction watching a girl getting what she wants knowing that I played a role in it (and the possible rewards later :D)

WHat kind of rewards are you thinking about?

[Lava Gal]

Can someone explain from a girl's perspective what they are looking for in finding partner? I mean nobody's perfect, rite? :wacko:
of coz nobody is...hmmm, complicated Q...answer oso sure complicated lo :p
It differs from person to person...but i think generally a girl would want the partner to be there for her always. and hmmm...oso, to have a good fren in him.

which brings me to a Q...from guys point of view - once u see a gal as 'just a fren'...so sure no-chance dee, betul?

[Ah Boh]

wat is this???

aiyoh... i wud love to kaypoh in some lovetalk too but not here la :p

[malcolm]

Actually I kinda agree with the fact that girls are meant to be pampered... I know it sounds cliche but men should just suck it in and make them happy whenever you can...

I always get a certain satisfaction watching a girl getting what she wants knowing that I played a role in it (and the possible rewards later :D)

i have been pampering some of my girlfriends and at times they reciprocate....
I enjoy being pampered by them once in awhile :amused:
Some of them are just so sweeeettt!

but now working ady.....don't have that much time to spend with them lor...

[Hammerhead]

my, my, my.....so many perfect gentlemen here......u lucky forum girls...so spoilt for choice..

[Adele]

my, my, my.....so many perfect gentlemen here......u lucky forum girls...so spoilt for choice..
well, what can i say, we're the few of the best girls there are here and we definitely deserve the best don't we?? hahaha.....:p

[athena]

how come all the 99 boys so romantic ? and the 98 ones tarak ?

[Ah Boh]

haha... '99 romantic?? really ah? anyway, everyone is most welcome to continue such interesting lovetalk in The Hot Loveseat ya! I'll see u there :)

[TK Ho]

how come all the 99 boys so romantic ? and the 98 ones tarak ?

Romantic or Bu-y-?:p

[bizzi]

wow.. not bad eh..

from working life vs student life, in just a matter of a few posts, becomes a romantic 99ers vs unromantic 98ers, and suddenly change to romantic gentlemen vs buayas.. hahhahaha

[bizzi]

anyways, let me restart the working life vs student life thingy..


i LOVED studying!!! I hated exams.

Assignments were okay, provided it's flexible and we get to choose our own topics. Uni in Australia was great. A lot of choices and flexible.

My point spread was usually 25% exams 65% assignments 10% participation.

so, u are kinda forced into speaking up in classes. which wasnt a problem for me, but most asian students had it tough.

had plenty of free time as a student. we only had 12 official hours a week of studies, we are supposed to put in an extra 36 hours a week on our own.. but who does anyway?

the bad part of it... lack of $$$..


working life is great too.. i earned good $$$ as a freshie.. much much more than my other peers. A Sales job can be a great thing becos your income is set by yourself. the better u do, the more commission u get..

the bad thing.. got $$.. no time..

but working can be very depressing too.. esp when u feel no satisfaction in your work or dealing with people within your company or people outside.. people always feel that they dont get paid what they are worth..

let me say this.. you will NEVER get paid what you are worth. it's simple economics.

if you make $100,000 in nett profits for the company and the company pay you $100,000, then what does the company make then? nothing..

so, usually you will get paid only between 5% -20% of what you are worth to the company. when i put it that way... sad right??

so, what are the alternatives?

i decided to go into business on my own..

also got issues.. non consistent income, need lots of self motivation, bears all the risk. there have been times where i get no income for 2 months.. and then the next month, i get a windfall... so, i need to have a lot of discipline to manage my finances.. which is something i havent been great at.. so it's also a learning process..

[Ah Boh]

thank u bizzi, for getting tis back on track.

sumhow i simply cant do a sales job. not dat i dont have opportunity or boasting ya... ppl say im outspoken, friendly, nice face, good english n i bet if i take it up i'll do very well.

but i just dun like d tot of getting insulted by customers hvg to use my god-given charms to sell sumtin i dun believe in. worse, getting swindled by d company who pays u only 5% or so of ur earnings. cheh!

[Lava Gal]

boh...boh...somehow reading that last post of urs made a smile creep up onto me :)

u shud consider business then...its all ur own field! but only donwside is - lotsa risks. well...mana bidang yang takde risk, rite? life & living itself IS all about RISK!

[dragoncity99]

how come all the 99 boys so romantic ? and the 98 ones tarak ?
Wut u mean ath ???!!!! :mad:

I so blind luck saw this. Adoiiiii

[Ah Boh]

Wut u mean ath ???!!!! :mad:

I so blind luck saw this. Adoiiiii

blind n sesat. keke...

[malcolm]

Wut u mean ath ???!!!! :mad:

I so blind luck saw this. Adoiiiii


yeah so blind and knock the pilar until the face become red!