[closed] Study Life vs Working Life

[dragoncity99]

blind n sesat. keke...
Hai...10x for telling me that. I so sien liao, so wandering around the forum. Mana tau........

Oh well, i kenot say blame ath for that. It's true in a way. Pretty kayu, especially me.

yeah so blind and knock the pilar until the face become red!
U r so darn right brader. :laugh:

[Lava Gal]

kayu eh...learn to let go lar! overcome ur barriers...sure can become super lomantic one...;)

[Ah Boh]

im gonna cabut!!!

my senior says "work never ends!"

best advice i heard in a long time.

[Lava Gal]

hehe....wat a good senior u have. so encouraging....ya lor, dun be a workaholic.

go get some R&R...ciao boh!

[ryan_khoo82]

Agree with bizzi... sales makes lots of money... and I guess it's a great option for those who need the money...

And I believe everyone has to be in sales at one point or another in a career because its a great experience... even with your own business it still boils down being able to sell... and a good sales person can make a mediocre product look great. Try not thinking from a direct sales perspective and every company is out to sell.

The only downside I can see is that the frustration levels are greater than most... people don't usually stay too long in any particular sales job. Income too fluctuates...

[TK Ho]

Hokay, just to keep in line with the topic....Study life vs working life.
I enjoyed study life, as I enjoyed the extra-curricular activites and the satisfaction of getting results from exams. Of course, on the other hand, there was anxiety and preparation before the exam. In the university was the same, not much stress, little responsibility except for myself.

Working life is different. The only good thing is independence, and able to afford to buy things from my own salary. The level of stress increases, responsibility also increased greatly with each level, eg House officer, senior house officer, registrar, consultant,etc. And not to mention, there is still professional exam to go through and a lot of courses to attend.

So, who says life is easy?

[dragoncity99]

kayu eh...learn to let go lar! overcome ur barriers...sure can become super lomantic one...;)
Ok cutie. I try to learn to let go. So, i must learn to let go my skool day love?

Dump the nerdy girlfriends. And find some super-hot-chick that dance and purrrr like Catwoman. :laugh:

Ok, i better stop this and stick to the topic. Nanti kena taluh. :p

[Ah Boh]

Ok cutie. I try to learn to let go. So, i must learn to let go my skool day love?

Dump the nerdy girlfriends. And find some super-hot-chick that dance and purrrr like Catwoman. :laugh:

Ok, i better stop this and stick to the topic. Nanti kena taluh. :p

im just waiting for opportunity to taluh u! keke... :p

[Ah Boh]

hehe....wat a good senior u have. so encouraging....ya lor, dun be a workaholic.

go get some R&R...ciao boh!

yeah, i had a wonderful time last night. got dinner date & movie, dats d best R&R leh :)

Hokay, just to keep in line with the topic....Study life vs working life.
I enjoyed study life, as I enjoyed the extra-curricular activites and the satisfaction of getting results from exams. Of course, on the other hand, there was anxiety and preparation before the exam. In the university was the same, not much stress, little responsibility except for myself.

Working life is different. The only good thing is independence, and able to afford to buy things from my own salary. The level of stress increases, responsibility also increased greatly with each level, eg House officer, senior house officer, registrar, consultant,etc. And not to mention, there is still professional exam to go through and a lot of courses to attend.

So, who says life is easy?

hmmm... if i really think about it, i think i prefer working life cuz got $$$ n time after work to enjoy as i've mentioned above to lav.

if i were still studying, i'll feel very guilty for going out instead of staying home to study. so dat ruin d fun n i wouldnt stop complaining about how tough it is, how much more to cover, d subject i hate, etc etc. ppl will be so sick of my companionship in d end might as well stay home alone.

[SS2006]

Hokay, just to keep in line with the topic....Study life vs working life.
I enjoyed study life, as I enjoyed the extra-curricular activites and the satisfaction of getting results from exams. Of course, on the other hand, there was anxiety and preparation before the exam. In the university was the same, not much stress, little responsibility except for myself.


I enjoyed study life in Primary and Secondary....but not in university. I really have phobia of the uni life...so dem busy...lectures and practical classes from 8am-6pm everyday from Mon-Fri, 8-12pm every Saturday. Just last month i went to Skudai UTM for ronda-ronda. When we drove by the Science Faculty, it looked so similar to my previous U Sc fac it sent a shiver down my spine. I commented to my husband i will never ever go back to study again...very scared liao!:squeeze:

[monay]

I enjoyed study life in Primary and Secondary....but not in university. I really have phobia of the uni life...so dem busy...lectures and practical classes from 8am-6pm everyday from Mon-Fri, 8-12pm every Saturday. Just last month i went to Skudai UTM for ronda-ronda. When we drove by the Science Faculty, it looked so similar to my previous U Sc fac it sent a shiver down my spine. I commented to my husband i will never ever go back to study again...very scared liao!:squeeze:
which uni went to? i really enjoyed my uni life at UKM the first year.... so many lubang in the schedule.....i remember got some afternoon time to nap oso :)

[SS2006]

which uni went to? i really enjoyed my uni life at UKM the first year.... so many lubang in the schedule.....i remember got some afternoon time to nap oso :)
Went to UM, problem was i went direct to 2nd year. Was enjoying my 1st semester (since i was staying in hostel) until time for my 1st sem exam...that time got a rude wake-up call since just realised got so much to catch up with.:sad-2:

[Lava Gal]

shirlene...wah! uni schedule left such a great phobia...what a pity. and ppl say that Uni life supposed to be bestest time...which u look back at with nostalgia & wanna revisit d place.
seems like u r another exception to the rule....so, Shirl Che...with that much of a pressure, u must have been among the best students later on in along the course? :)

[SS2006]

shirlene...wah! uni schedule left such a great phobia...what a pity. and ppl say that Uni life supposed to be bestest time...which u look back at with nostalgia & wanna revisit d place.
seems like u r another exception to the rule....so, Shirl Che...with that much of a pressure, u must have been among the best students later on in along the course? :)
No leh...people says uni more easy to score, but i feel more difficult. Din do that well either...just cukup makan to graduate with an honour. Uni live does leave some nostalgia, i did revisit UM after graduate, the hostels and other places (except my faculty) leaves good memories. The uni life and friends also leaves good memories....so i guess it's a good experience after all. Only the studies gave me phobia.

[TK Ho]

Went to UM, problem was i went direct to 2nd year. Was enjoying my 1st semester (since i was staying in hostel) until time for my 1st sem exam...that time got a rude wake-up call since just realised got so much to catch up with.:sad-2:

Just curious, SS2006, how come you get direct into second year wan? BTW, I oso went to UM (stayed at the sixth college)

[Adele]

No leh...people says uni more easy to score, but i feel more difficult. Din do that well either...just cukup makan to graduate with an honour. Uni live does leave some nostalgia, i did revisit UM after graduate, the hostels and other places (except my faculty) leaves good memories. The uni life and friends also leaves good memories....so i guess it's a good experience after all. Only the studies gave me phobia.
hi Shirlene! which college did you stay at? i stayed at 8th RC for all 3 years. the bestest of the bestest of them all! muahahahaha :p did you do chemistry? then i u/std why you're so stressed. i did biochem and it was as crazily hectic as my fellow chemist friends but somehow, i think their life was better compare to ours. i guess the only stressful thing for them was that their lecturer was very strict on procedures while ours were cool. :) uni years were my best years in life so far.... although do miss the carefree days of being a child without serious studying. now, working life has its pros and cons too but since this is my first time working, everything's so new. i'm rather enjoying the most part of it i guess. give me a couple of years. hahaha!

[malcolm]

i am going to take a one-week break soon....sien of working....

[Adele]

i am going to take a one-week break soon....sien of working....
i'll be off on the 12th. very sien too!:( :crying:

[Lava Gal]

malc & adele...enjoy the much needed & deserved break, then

malcolm...for u means u goin home S'wan ...or holidaying sumwer? 1wk is LONG!!

[malcolm]

i'll be off on the 12th. very sien too!:( :crying:

how many days of annual do you have?
i haven't even taken half of my annual leave yet... bz bz bz

[Ah Boh]

i wan holiday too! maybe end of june i go merayau in cameron highlands to smell roses n eat strawberries :)

but i hafta 'fight' my boss to take annual leave, always work is priority but not my mental health... sheeeshhh...

[Adele]

how many days of annual do you have?
i haven't even taken half of my annual leave yet... bz bz bz
officially 15. but if public holiday falls on a Sat then, will add on to AL. so, for this year, i have 17. i've taken 3. then on the 12th will be my 4th day.

[malcolm]

malc & adele...enjoy the much needed & deserved break, then

malcolm...for u means u goin home S'wan ...or holidaying sumwer? 1wk is LONG!!

I plan to go home... i want to go to the beach!!!
weeeeee

it is long...under the pretext of testing the software at home.
hehe...

A break from seeing codes and more codes....hehe

[song cm]

how many days of annual do you have?
i haven't even taken half of my annual leave yet... bz bz bz

i have ard 36 days...don be jeales horr....:D

talkin abit uni days...i totally enjoyed mine....got like less than 20 hours of lectures and tutorials.....but i din enjoy my ACCA days....

[song cm]

i wan holiday too! maybe end of june i go merayau in cameron highlands to smell roses n eat strawberries :)

but i hafta 'fight' my boss to take annual leave, always work is priority but not my mental health... sheeeshhh...

wah...ur boss so terrible one....:eek:
u wanna come n work in kulim? :p

[ryan_khoo82]

i have ard 36 days...don be jeales horr....:D

talkin abit uni days...i totally enjoyed mine....got like less than 20 hours of lectures and tutorials.....but i din enjoy my ACCA days....

Wahh!! 36? I have 30 and thats already obscene...

Haha.. on leave now... just to relax and do some swimming.

[Ah Boh]

wah...ur boss so terrible one....:eek:
u wanna come n work in kulim? :p

haha... d last time i do 'battle' with boss was when i needed to go on 2 weeks leave for studies & exam. i tried to use strategy...

1st, i apply exam leave n show boss exam slips for 3 days. she signed it, no prob.

2nd, i apply 1 week study leave (max 6 days pa). she argue why do i need so much time to study la, why cant i work full day n study at nite la, bla bla bla... i bengang adi say i not so smart mah need to study kaokao wan :p so she signed it with much reluctance. Fuh...

3rd, i apply additional 2 days annual leave (14 days pa only!). wah, this one hafta justify why i need additional days sumore! i hafta promise will kaotim all work b4 long leave la, arrange for collegaues to cover my work for 2 weeks la, etc etc... finally she sign! wahlau, like miracle.

sigh... another 'battle' coming up if i wanna take hols.

thanx for offer for kulim :) but i guess im sticking around my co. for long term prospects. besides, i need to acquire 3 yrs xp to qualify for cima which i can collect fm different cos, but i dun believe in jumping jobs every couple of yrs.

[song cm]

Wahh!! 36? I have 30 and thats already obscene...

Haha.. on leave now... just to relax and do some swimming.

wah.....swimming n surfing.....so nice.....:)

haha... d last time i do 'battle' with boss was when i needed to go on 2 weeks leave for studies & exam. i tried to use strategy...

1st, i apply exam leave n show boss exam slips for 3 days. she signed it, no prob.

2nd, i apply 1 week study leave (max 6 days pa). she argue why do i need so much time to study la, why cant i work full day n study at nite la, bla bla bla... i bengang adi say i not so smart mah need to study kaokao wan :p so she signed it with much reluctance. Fuh...

3rd, i apply additional 2 days annual leave (14 days pa only!). wah, this one hafta justify why i need additional days sumore! i hafta promise will kaotim all work b4 long leave la, arrange for collegaues to cover my work for 2 weeks la, etc etc... finally she sign! wahlau, like miracle.

sigh... another 'battle' coming up if i wanna take hols.

thanx for offer for kulim :) but i guess im sticking around my co. for long term prospects. besides, i need to acquire 3 yrs xp to qualify for cima which i can collect fm different cos, but i dun believe in jumping jobs every couple of yrs.
wah...long leave isit? liddat aso i might have a problem :eek:
yeah true...don hop too much but must aso hop once in a while....

[Lava Gal]

wah...so jealous hear u all toking bout annual leaves. i had 1wk break last wk...that one oso end up feel guilty coz 1 doctor told us "medicine where got cuti one?"

haiyo...he wants every1 to be workaholic like him one ah.....die lar.

now 1wk is considered luxury for us dee...coz no more hols till study break starts in 1 mth's time. but i curi-curi wknds ma...else think i'd go nutz. hehe...like this wknd our gathering :p

when start working as a HO...we are entitled to TEN DAYS of ANNUAL LEAVE in 4mths (drg one rotation) - if u are lucky enuff to get ur boss to approve it. tat oso must pandai-pandai apply early early itself...and we are encouraged not to take leave, and dedicate ourselves to pts...even if sick, doctors in gomen hosp still need to work ma. wer got cuti just like that...nanti havoc!

but a few junior drs advised us make sure u finish up the 10days/posting hols...those r precious, well-deserved hols...if u dun utilize it, its ur loss. aye aye...no point be too workaholic oso ma...not like ur boss gonna give u gaji melintang just coz of tat kan :sus:

[Ah Boh]

wah...so jealous hear u all toking bout annual leaves. i had 1wk break last wk...that one oso end up feel guilty coz 1 doctor told us "medicine where got cuti one?"

haiyo...he wants every1 to be workaholic like him one ah.....die lar.

now 1wk is considered luxury for us dee...coz no more hols till study break starts in 1 mth's time. but i curi-curi wknds ma...else think i'd go nutz. hehe...like this wknd our gathering :p

when start working as a HO...we are entitled to TEN DAYS of ANNUAL LEAVE in 4mths (drg one rotation) - if u are lucky enuff to get ur boss to approve it. tat oso must pandai-pandai apply early early itself...and we are encouraged not to take leave, and dedicate ourselves to pts...even if sick, doctors in gomen hosp still need to work ma. wer got cuti just like that...nanti havoc!

but a few junior drs advised us make sure u finish up the 10days/posting hols...those r precious, well-deserved hols...if u dun utilize it, its ur loss. aye aye...no point be too workaholic oso ma...not like ur boss gonna give u gaji melintang just coz of tat kan :sus:

yalar! take ur leave cuz u deserve it, of all ppl... u medics if blur blur or no mood sure indirectly affect quality of patient care & treatment rite?

[SS2006]

Just curious, SS2006, how come you get direct into second year wan? BTW, I oso went to UM (stayed at the sixth college)
Hmmm....i think we have met before, i remember some junior medic students from S'wan. Your year 1 in 1994-95, right? I was in my final year then. Did you ever join us for the UM S'wan students gatherings? If yes, then we definitely have met. Are you same year as Lee Chiok Nguk?
hi Shirlene! which college did you stay at? i stayed at 8th RC for all 3 years. the bestest of the bestest of them all! muahahahaha :p did you do chemistry? then i u/std why you're so stressed. i did biochem and it was as crazily hectic as my fellow chemist friends but somehow, i think their life was better compare to ours. i guess the only stressful thing for them was that their lecturer was very strict on procedures while ours were cool. :) uni years were my best years in life so far.... although do miss the carefree days of being a child without serious studying. now, working life has its pros and cons too but since this is my first time working, everything's so new. i'm rather enjoying the most part of it i guess. give me a couple of years. hahaha!
Hi Adele, i stayed in 8th college too, but in 1992-1993...so ancient horr? That time 8th college very ulu one, got one hill at the side, the hi-way behind still under construction.
Yeah, i did chemistry. I think all science subject also very hectic one, Mathematics although no practical but a lot to study.

[TK Ho]

Hmmm....i think we have met before, i remember some junior medic students from S'wan. Your year 1 in 1994-95, right? I was in my final year then. Did you ever join us for the UM S'wan students gatherings? If yes, then we definitely have met. Are you same year as Lee Chiok Nguk?

Hi Adele, i stayed in 8th college too, but in 1992-1993...so ancient horr? That time 8th college very ulu one, got one hill at the side, the hi-way behind still under construction.
Yeah, i did chemistry. I think all science subject also very hectic one, Mathematics although no practical but a lot to study.

Yeah, I went to the gathering, in fact, in that year, there were only two of us from Sitiawan, the other one was very tall, from Nan Hwa.

Yes-lah, same year as Lee CN, class of 1991 wat.

I stayed in the eighth college for two weeks during the first two weeks, but kenot tahan the food-lah :( .

[malcolm]

wah..TK Ho..... i see you posted at 6.24 AM....hoho.... now it is 6.40 AM
So early? working ar?
today holiday wor

[Oddfather]

wah..TK Ho..... i see you posted at 6.24 AM....hoho.... now it is 6.40 AM
So early? working ar?
today holiday wor
He is the Forum nite watchman......graveyard shift......holiday oso must work!!! :rolleyes: :p

[malcolm]

He is the Forum nite watchman......graveyard shift......holiday oso must work!!! :rolleyes: :p

hoho...
someone watching from another time zone...
I will be out the whole day.
Will be back to check the forum before the gathering at 6pm.

[Oddfather]

hoho...
someone watching from another time zone...
I will be out the whole day.
Will be back to check the forum before the gathering at 6pm.
Dr. TK Ho, from London shud be starting his nite shift right abt that time. :)

[SS2006]

Yeah, I went to the gathering, in fact, in that year, there were only two of us from Sitiawan, the other one was very tall, from Nan Hwa.

Yes-lah, same year as Lee CN, class of 1991 wat.

I stayed in the eighth college for two weeks during the first two weeks, but kenot tahan the food-lah :( .
Then we have met, but we never talk, did we? Must be at that time you were thinking that SS so old, in final year...so never want to say hi to me lorr...:sad-2: Lee CN and me very kamching in school and in U, where is she now? She's a dentist, right? I've lost touch with her.
BTW TK Ho, when did you leave to UK? Did your Masters in UK?

[TK Ho]

Then we have met, but we never talk, did we? Must be at that time you were thinking that SS so old, in final year...so never want to say hi to me lorr...:sad-2: Lee CN and me very kamching in school and in U, where is she now? She's a dentist, right? I've lost touch with her.
BTW TK Ho, when did you leave to UK? Did your Masters in UK?

No-lar, I was very quiet wan last time.

The last I heard, Lee CN is somewhere in Lembah Klang, (but I think KakmKuey may know more).

I left for UK in 1999, immemdiately after my final exam. Yes-lor, I am doing my higher surgical training here, after getting an extra postgrad research degree (Medical Doctorate, MD). Very cham wan, training seems like forever.

[TK Ho]

wah..TK Ho..... i see you posted at 6.24 AM....hoho.... now it is 6.40 AM
So early? working ar?
today holiday wor

6:40am Malaysian time, local time here is 11:40pm-mah.

He is the Forum nite watchman......graveyard shift......holiday oso must work!!! :rolleyes: :p

ODF, got pay or not?:wacko:

[Oddfather]

ODF, got pay or not?:wacko:
What kind of pay off are you looking for??

[TK Ho]

What kind of pay off are you looking for??

I need a boob job-leh :rolleyes: , a green wan. He he he..

[Oddfather]

I need a boob job-leh :rolleyes: , a green wan. He he he..

Boob Surgeon - Out for Lunch!!! :eek:

[SS2006]

No-lar, I was very quiet wan last time.

The last I heard, Lee CN is somewhere in Lembah Klang, (but I think KakmKuey may know more).

I left for UK in 1999, immemdiately after my final exam. Yes-lor, I am doing my higher surgical training here, after getting an extra postgrad research degree (Medical Doctorate, MD). Very cham wan, training seems like forever.
Why you no need to do HO and MO? No bond to the gov?
Wait till doc Alfred read this...he'll get all worked out again.:eek: :laugh:

[Lava Gal]

TK...just curious...higher surgical training in what?

referring to shirl's Q - did the government like send u to uk or something...so u get to stay till super-specialize & then come back?

[Oddfather]

Why you no need to do HO and MO? No bond to the gov?
Wait till doc Alfred read this...he'll get all worked out again.:eek: :laugh:
ssshhhh........dun open your mouth so big, otherwise loctor will hear you. :cheesy:

[Ah Boh]

haha...mulut besar nyamuk masuk.

i do not believe i am actually staying back in d office to fill up my performance review form cuz it's due tomorrow! i so last minute case. sigh...

let's see... strengths n weaknesses? wah, this wan gotta think carefully loh...

aiyoh, i dread nxt week cuz 2 things gonna happen. both d one-on-one performance review with boss n a company wide fire drill, either one dunno wat day cuz they like to surprise us. darn!

[Oddfather]

let's see... strengths n weaknesses? wah, this wan gotta think carefully loh...

Strengths - Forumming

Weakness - not enuf Forumming! :eek:

[Ah Boh]

Strengths - Forumming

Weakness - not enuf Forumming! :eek:

LOL :eek: how true...

but cannot la!! i sure kena tendang asap, u will see me fly outta the building head 1st lor!

[Oddfather]

LOL :eek: how true...

but cannot la!! i sure kena tendang asap, u will see me fly outta the building head 1st lor!
Then got chance to change your lifetime calling to be.........SUPERWOMAN!!!

[TK Ho]

Why you no need to do HO and MO? No bond to the gov?
Wait till doc Alfred read this...he'll get all worked out again.:eek: :laugh:
No-lah, I need to do HO and MO also, only that I did it in UK (equivalent here junior house officer and senior house officer).
What bond to gomen? I was on my own, so, no bond to gomen. As for the 3 years compulsory service, can talk about it when I plan to go home. It may not even exist in the future.
Loctor Alf is doing well oreadi, no problem-lah, correct or not loctor?

TK...just curious...higher surgical training in what?

referring to shirl's Q - did the government like send u to uk or something...so u get to stay till super-specialize & then come back?

Lava, higher surgical training in surgery-lah :laugh: OK, 3 years in general, then 3 years subspecialising in vascular (but may change, as you know, a lot of changes are going on at the moment).
No-lar, gomen didn't send me. I came on my own, having to do PLAB and all that. But now, with the Foundation stuff, the future is not as clear as before for the new graduates. :huh:

[SS2006]

No-lah, I need to do HO and MO also, only that I did it in UK (equivalent here junior house officer and senior house officer).
What bond to gomen? I was on my own, so, no bond to gomen. As for the 3 years compulsory service, can talk about it when I plan to go home. It may not even exist in the future.
Loctor Alf is doing well oreadi, no problem-lah, correct or not loctor?



Lava, higher surgical training in surgery-lah :laugh: OK, 3 years in general, then 3 years subspecialising in vascular (but may change, as you know, a lot of changes are going on at the moment).
No-lar, gomen didn't send me. I came on my own, having to do PLAB and all that. But now, with the Foundation stuff, the future is not as clear as before for the new graduates. :huh:
TK Ho, i thought UK don't recognise M'sia MBBS?

[TK Ho]

TK Ho, i thought UK don't recognise M'sia MBBS?

You are right. It used to recognise UM MBBS until in the early/mid eighties. Therefore, I had to sit for the IELTS, and then PLAB test, a qualifying test for overseas graduates whose degrees are not recognised by the General Medical Council of UK. It was a very risky situation then because I could be spending indefinitely my time to pass the test. Luckily, it took me only 6 months in total, and got a job immediately.

I was the only one from UM to have done this, but looking back, it was worth it. :noworry:

[Lava Gal]

Lava, higher surgical training in surgery-lah :laugh: OK, 3 years in general, then 3 years subspecialising in vascular (but may change, as you know, a lot of changes are going on at the moment).

i see...we have one vascular surgeon in imu :) but he doesnt op anymore coz of some tremors etc

No-lar, gomen didn't send me. I came on my own, having to do PLAB and all that. But now, with the Foundation stuff, the future is not as clear as before for the new graduates. :huh:
u've made it well on ur own so far...congrats, doc! kleep up the good work...

as for fresh grads..yeah...an ex-batchmate told me that its still not in black & white till this august.
can u pls summmarize what's the conditions exactly ah...u shud know better than us here...last time, i did think of considering training in uk...but now no lo. will be most prob malaysia je.
btw today...an ex-imu student who jus graduated who is leaving for US soon is gonna talk to us about post-grad options in usa...will get to update my general knowledge abit :p

[SS2006]

You are right. It used to recognise UM MBBS until in the early/mid eighties. Therefore, I had to sit for the IELTS, and then PLAB test, a qualifying test for overseas graduates whose degrees are not recognised by the General Medical Council of UK. It was a very risky situation then because I could be spending indefinitely my time to pass the test. Luckily, it took me only 6 months in total, and got a job immediately.

I was the only one from UM to have done this, but looking back, it was worth it. :noworry:
TK Ho Boleh!!!
Fellow ACS'ians, ain't we so proud of him?:)

[TK Ho]

i see...we have one vascular surgeon in imu :) but he doesnt op anymore coz of some tremors etc


u've made it well on ur own so far...congrats, doc! kleep up the good work...

as for fresh grads..yeah...an ex-batchmate told me that its still not in black & white till this august.
can u pls summmarize what's the conditions exactly ah...u shud know better than us here...last time, i did think of considering training in uk...but now no lo. will be most prob malaysia je.
btw today...an ex-imu student who jus graduated who is leaving for US soon is gonna talk to us about post-grad options in usa...will get to update my general knowledge abit :p

Was he YC Lim?

As for the foundation programme, as for now, new overseas students who graduate from UK medical school will be allow 2 years of permit free training under F1 and F2. After that, it is still uncertain, but in my opinion, if you could get a job, no one will stop you from getting a visa to stay on. I would advise that the Modernising Medical Career should not discourage you from staying in UK to work.

[TK Ho]

TK Ho Boleh!!!
Fellow ACS'ians, ain't we so proud of him?:)

Paiseh paiseh. :o

What about you-leh SS2006, UM degree recognised by Singapore-kah?

[SS2006]

Paiseh paiseh. :o

What about you-leh SS2006, UM degree recognised by Singapore-kah?
BSc small fry only...recognised everywhere. Even recognised in UK. BTW, we follwed UK system, while all other BSc in other M'sia U follow US system. That's why UM schedule so rigid, so tough.

[song cm]

BSc small fry only...recognised everywhere. Even recognised in UK. BTW, we follwed UK system, while all other BSc in other M'sia U follow US system. That's why UM schedule so rigid, so tough.

haha...i thot UK system very easy one? :laugh: ...not many classes....

[SS2006]

haha...i thot UK system very easy one? :laugh: ...not many classes....
We are not allowed to choose or accumulate our credits. And the classes are so many...i think i took 14 compulsory papers, not including practical .

[Lava Gal]

Was he YC Lim?
nope...our imu dr i meant is Dr Yushak

[TK Ho]

nope...our imu dr i meant is Dr Yushak

Sorry, never heard of him. :wacko:

[Ah Boh]

hey, ever felt like it's time to switch jobs? i mean, i wanna stay put long term in my company for experience and career advancement but sometimes tempted to jump around for better increments.

*eyes shining with $$$* hehe...

but then again, i gotta start adapting to new culture/politics/work conditions etc it's so mahfan! plus experience curve starts from beginning everytime i jump job so not gonna learn much at d end of d day rite?

[Lava Gal]

Boh....guess that's an itch everyone will feel over time! even i'm getting sick & tired of wat i am doing :p
waiting for a fresh start...new setting, new people - politics unavoidable, but at least can put down some baggages for good.

but hey...back to ur Q...stay on till u can learn as much as possible from this company...if prospects of going up the ladder not so good...then time to thank them & move on, babe!

[song cm]

hey, ever felt like it's time to switch jobs? i mean, i wanna stay put long term in my company for experience and career advancement but sometimes tempted to jump around for better increments.

*eyes shining with $$$* hehe...

but then again, i gotta start adapting to new culture/politics/work conditions etc it's so mahfan! plus experience curve starts from beginning everytime i jump job so not gonna learn much at d end of d day rite?

in most cases....shld jump ard once in a while, it does increase your market value....of course, the Q is how u define "once in a while"....personally for me...once in every 4-6 yrs wld be good....but of course, the older u r, the harder it is for u 2 jump.....

[Lava Gal]

understandable...youngesters are like monkeys ;)
so can lompat sana-sini mah :laugh:

[malcolm]

understandable...youngesters are like monkeys ;)
so can lompat sana-sini mah :laugh:

ROTFLOL ;)

[Ah Boh]

Boh....guess that's an itch everyone will feel over time! even i'm getting sick & tired of wat i am doing :p
waiting for a fresh start...new setting, new people - politics unavoidable, but at least can put down some baggages for good.

but hey...back to ur Q...stay on till u can learn as much as possible from this company...if prospects of going up the ladder not so good...then time to thank them & move on, babe!

haha... can u imagine my 1st day of work was 14 Feb 2005?? wat a memorable date indeed! :D

I'm here for more than a year liao n used to d way things are done but there's always new things popping up to learn like wen co change new accounting software, compliance with new accounting regulations, etc.

sigh... learning process is a never-ending process lav.

In my last performance review last week, i said i've adapted well to d culture and pressure, deadlines are very challenging but i understand dat finance work got peak periods wen we sometimes work till midnight!

my record so far was preparing an ad-hoc presentation for GM, me n colleague n boss work till 2.30am!! at dat time, i was wondering wat the heck was i doing slaving for d company at such an ungodly hour...

but after d review, my boss mentioned dat they are keen to train me up further to fully utilise my potential. i seriously hope dat means a promotion or better opportunities but it's all verbal so she can change mind anytime, rite?

so i may stick around just to see wat happens... hope i aint wasting my time.

in most cases....shld jump ard once in a while, it does increase your market value....of course, the Q is how u define "once in a while"....personally for me...once in every 4-6 yrs wld be good....but of course, the older u r, the harder it is for u 2 jump.....

wah! i may jump after 3 yrs liao... need some fresh excitement n more $. i've seen frens in audit n accounts line jump co every year or so n they earning abit more each time but always same position, more or less la.

i guess u're rite, it's easier for us to jump cuz we still in our 20s n employers can accept our reason (excuse?) to accumulate xp in wide areas.

[Lava Gal]

but after d review, my boss mentioned dat they are keen to train me up further to fully utilise my potential. i seriously hope dat means a promotion or better opportunities but it's all verbal so she can change mind anytime, rite?
Boh...it does sound promising :)
Stay on a bit and see how...coz if jump have to start from scratch gain, rite?

[song cm]

but after d review, my boss mentioned dat they are keen to train me up further to fully utilise my potential. i seriously hope dat means a promotion or better opportunities but it's all verbal so she can change mind anytime, rite?


wah! i may jump after 3 yrs liao... need some fresh excitement n more $. i've seen frens in audit n accounts line jump co every year or so n they earning abit more each time but always same position, more or less la.

i guess u're rite, it's easier for us to jump cuz we still in our 20s n employers can accept our reason (excuse?) to accumulate xp in wide areas.


wah...ur boss sounds like a potential "slave" driver....:eek:

oklarr...3 to 6 years......

[Ah Boh]

watodo... dats working life hor, always at d mercy of someone else.

[Lava Gal]

watodo... dats working life hor, always at d mercy of someone else.
...unless u go into ur own business :)

[Ah Boh]

easier said than done, my fren :)

hey, if u have a choice NOT to work for govt or forfeit d required 3 yrs internship, would u open ur own private clinic? or maybe go into academic line n become lecturer?

[Lava Gal]

b4 going anywer...need experience dear. in that sense...i think the 4yr compulsary service is a blessing. coz years as medical students we are seeing very little + the fact we just plan managements...for discussion sake (unlike when working...we actually ARE responsible for patient care)

so..i think after those yrs one actually SEE more stuffs, becoming more COMPETENT :D
howeva...in a way, i prefer US system where u can choose the course of ur interest and start work in that line (eg: O&G) and go on to specialize in that field...unlike here, have to do all the rotations - and if lucky enuff, at the end of 2yr 'housemanship', we can be absorbed into the field of our interest

[Ah Boh]

oh yalar... basic xp b4 specialize! wanna be child doc since u like children?

[Lava Gal]

my bro thinks i should...my dad thinks i would

me...ada interest lar tu...i have a special interest in mind science...so nearest possible thing seemed like psychiatry...but my experience in Psy ward...a bit scary all those amok patients. then i tot of child psychiatry...i enjoyed that ONE PRECIOUS GHKL clinic we had.

but still keeping my options open - wat i really wanna do is....hmmm, got a few lines, must see if there's some line where i can integrate all those :)

[song cm]

child doc is in demand lorr....so few in penang, long Q somemore.....go for it lav :)

yeap...experience is important but not everything....for me, the most important criteria when i hire somemore is their attitude and willingness to learn...

[Lava Gal]

yea...sometimes i think younger generation expect durian runtuh...learning attitude got prob - like this how to gain exp & climb up ladder? dun get me wrong...im not saying must apple-polish...but be enthuastic in wateva u do...whether its by choice or circumstances - afterall...that is feeding us :p;)

thanx song....my options are still open (for those familiar with genetic terms - still a 'pluripotential cell'...undifferentiated). guess its good this way so that each rotation i do nx time i will be enthuasistic...and discover my real 'talent'/potential...or well...for all u know - circumstances might dictate my future

[SS2006]

yea...sometimes i think younger generation expect durian runtuh...learning attitude got prob - like this how to gain exp & climb up ladder? dun get me wrong...im not saying must apple-polish...but be enthuastic in wateva u do...whether its by choice or circumstances - afterall...that is feeding us :p;)

thanx song....my options are still open (for those familiar with genetic terms - still a 'pluripotential cell'...undifferentiated). guess its good this way so that each rotation i do nx time i will be enthuasistic...and discover my real 'talent'/potential...or well...for all u know - circumstances might dictate my future
Normally where you do your HO/MO will dictate your future. You may find your field of interest after hands-on.

[Lava Gal]

Normally where you do your HO/MO will dictate your future. You may find your field of interest after hands-on.
true shirl...and we r restricted...even s'pore wont take us (MU oso not recognized dee...+ my uni...name je International..out of M'sia MBBS IMU (MAS) not recognised

hmmm....i am seriously thinking of going east m'sia (multifactorial :) - + its a dream...)...some say kuching is better than KK. too small a hosp...cant learn much.

any tips from the loctors here..

[SS2006]

true shirl...and we r restricted...even s'pore wont take us (MU oso not recognized dee...+ my uni...name je International..out of M'sia MBBS IMU (MAS) not recognised

hmmm....i am seriously thinking of going east m'sia (multifactorial :) - + its a dream...)...some say kuching is better than KK. too small a hosp...cant learn much.

any tips from the loctors here..
My brother was in Kuching , Sentosa Hosp, for 4 years after his Masters. He likes it there.

[Ah Boh]

child doc is in demand lorr....so few in penang, long Q somemore.....go for it lav :)

yeap...experience is important but not everything....for me, the most important criteria when i hire somemore is their attitude and willingness to learn...

oh no wonder la during my interview last yr, i mentioned dat im positive thinker and willing to learn any task from bottoms-up. my boss was smiling like mad, i tot she got some sadist idea in mind to turn me into slave...

so at least now i know i accidentally said sumtin they've been waiting to hear all along, lucky me :)

[song cm]

oh no wonder la during my interview last yr, i mentioned dat im positive thinker and willing to learn any task from bottoms-up. my boss was smiling like mad, i tot she got some sadist idea in mind to turn me into slave...

so at least now i know i accidentally said sumtin they've been waiting to hear all along, lucky me :)

hey...give yourself more credit larr.....i bet she was aso impressed with your academic results n presonality....

For me, i aso tend to look at SPM or STPM results becoz nowadays got too many tertiary education liao...

[Lava Gal]

but i tot that's something every potential employee would say to get the job...nope?
just like medic school interview...Y wanna be a Dr?

"....serve people..etc etc"
and the interviewers wil be thinking "yeah rite...tatz wat every1 says...i'll see how long u can hold on to that notion!":cheesy:

[song cm]

but i tot that's something every potential employee would say to get the job...nope?
just like medic school interview...Y wanna be a Dr?

"....serve people..etc etc"
and the interviewers wil be thinking "yeah rite...tatz wat every1 says...i'll see how long u can hold on to that notion!":cheesy:
u will be surprised on how quiet some can be....their words are like gold....so dem hard to get it out of them...

[Lava Gal]

hey...give yourself more credit larr.....i bet she was aso impressed with your academic results n presonality....

For me, i aso tend to look at SPM or STPM results becoz nowadays got too many tertiary education liao...
are u a HR manager, song? :)

give us tips la...wat else do interviewers look for? humble, but confident...?

[song cm]

are u a HR manager, song? :)

give us tips la...wat else do interviewers look for? humble, but confident...?

haha...nolerr....i finance mgr....so far i have interview for quite a number of vacancies in my company...so got experience lorr....

[song cm]

for me....

i look for these....
1) paper qualification and working experiences to shortlist the candidates
2) during interview, i would observe on how confident the person is....the key here is DON'T overdo it....Confident and yet humble is the key....Other soft skills that you can observe during an interview is their communication skills and how enthusistic they are...

[Ah Boh]

but i tot that's something every potential employee would say to get the job...nope?
just like medic school interview...Y wanna be a Dr?

"....serve people..etc etc"
and the interviewers wil be thinking "yeah rite...tatz wat every1 says...i'll see how long u can hold on to that notion!":cheesy:

i tot interview pretty direct. u know like edu & xp, technical knowledge questions or test etc. i scared keluar topik mah so blurt some silly thing but they ate it up :D but its true actually cuz i didnt mind to start from bottom rung.

hope u get lucky too n ur future interviewers not so sarcastic as u think.

[Lava Gal]

i tot interview pretty direct. u know like edu & xp, technical knowledge questions or test etc. i scared keluar topik mah so blurt some silly thing but they ate it up :D but its true actually cuz i didnt mind to start from bottom rung.
hope u get lucky too n ur future interviewers not so sarcastic as u think.
good there, boH!
in this era where many fresh grads demand they wont do a job 'below their level'...this is the rite attitude :D Proud if u, my fren...

tq for the wishes :)

[SS2006]

i tot interview pretty direct. u know like edu & xp, technical knowledge questions or test etc. i scared keluar topik mah so blurt some silly thing but they ate it up :D but its true actually cuz i didnt mind to start from bottom rung.

hope u get lucky too n ur future interviewers not so sarcastic as u think.
I feel interview for fresh graduate so much easier and straight forward. In fact i got offer for almost all the job i was interviewed for as a fresh graduate. Just use a standard model answer for all their question.
On the other hand, much more difficult to sell your experience when you want to change job. The interviewer will ask lots of questions about what you did in the previous job,how are you going to handle this scenario, blah, blah... and then finally say "Your previous experience is not quite relevant here"...and then either you get rejected, or they try to reduce your asking pay.:sad-2:

[Lava Gal]

tat hurts the pocket, shirl!

but my cousin found a common Q asked for fresh grad i'views..."tell us bout ur prev exp" A: no exp..1st job
Q: how can u then contri to us..we want experienced workers

he was fed-up of same old thing and
A: if u dun give us a chance to prove ourselves, how do we gain exp...gimme a chance...being an eager-leaner...i will give my best to this comp

...and he got the job! :)

[funkmeister]

hey...give yourself more credit larr.....i bet she was aso impressed with your academic results n presonality....

For me, i aso tend to look at SPM or STPM results becoz nowadays got too many tertiary education liao...

songcm in ur opinion, how important is SPM/STPM results in msia? would you consider someone who has eg. grade 2/3 but have work experience. If so how many yrs work experience until edu not tat important?

[song cm]

songcm in ur opinion, how important is SPM/STPM results in msia? would you consider someone who has eg. grade 2/3 but have work experience. If so how many yrs work experience until edu not tat important?

well funk, for me SPM/STPM is a good measurement yardstick when it comes to comparing one with another but it is not an ultimate selection criteria.
if i do come across somebody with grade 2 but plenty of experiences, i would definitely consider him/her but that person will really have to impress me in the interview....

[funkmeister]

well funk, for me SPM/STPM is a good measurement yardstick when it comes to comparing one with another but it is not an ultimate selection criteria.
if i do come across somebody with grade 2 but plenty of experiences, i would definitely consider him/her but that person will really have to impress me in the interview....

From your personal experience, do u see paper qualification ie (ie spm/stpm, degree, postgrad) only as important as getting you to the first interview stage? and the rest being how the candidate presents? or does paper make say 60% of decision to hire the person.

[song cm]

From your personal experience, do u see paper qualification ie (ie spm/stpm, degree, postgrad) only as important as getting you to the first interview stage? and the rest being how the candidate presents? or does paper make say 60% of decision to hire the person.

i wld say paper qualification is definitely important to get the first interview, then personality would complement that during the interview....as for the ratio, 60%-40% wld be a fair estimate.....but once that person is hired....paper qualification is no longer an issue (unless HR has a condition there)...its now all depends on the individual's performance and contribution to the organisation.....

[SS2006]

From your personal experience, do u see paper qualification ie (ie spm/stpm, degree, postgrad) only as important as getting you to the first interview stage? and the rest being how the candidate presents? or does paper make say 60% of decision to hire the person.
I'd say paper qualification important for your 1st job (SPM results important if it's from some foreign , not so popular u, since so many degree can be bought dun knowwhether authentic or not). Your your latter job interview, previous job experience and personality more important, since i think the employer trust the former employer's judgement on the paper qua.

[funkmeister]

thanks, very insightful comments.

[song cm]

btw funk, wat line are u in? where r u attached to now?

[Ah Boh]

hey...give yourself more credit larr.....i bet she was aso impressed with your academic results n presonality....

For me, i aso tend to look at SPM or STPM results becoz nowadays got too many tertiary education liao...

haiyo watodo... i very humble wan mah :p

good there, boH!
in this era where many fresh grads demand they wont do a job 'below their level'...this is the rite attitude :D Proud if u, my fren...

tq for the wishes :)

thank u thank u... :)

[song cm]

haiyo watodo... i very humble wan mah :p



thank u thank u... :)

haha...i can see dat...:p

[funkmeister]

btw funk, wat line are u in? where r u attached to now?

lowly analyst in the credit area for a bank :crying: I'm currently in sydney but thinking of returning to Msia in a few yrs after sarah has done with her studies.

[song cm]

lowly analyst in the credit area for a bank :crying: I'm currently in sydney but thinking of returning to Msia in a few yrs after sarah has done with her studies.

aiseh....everyone aso need to climb from the bottom larr.....
u shld learn as much as you can, do diversify....mebbe work in those big international ones and then latter ask for a re-posting back to KL...then u will be well paid :)

[funkmeister]

aiseh....everyone aso need to climb from the bottom larr.


yeah I agree with you. In fact I started working as a customer service officer as my first real job ;)

[Ah Boh]

i was doing events management as my 1st job. the pay sucks but its dem fun n get to meet lots of ppl.

[song cm]

i started as an auditor....pay sucks but got a lot of female koligs....:eek:

[dragoncity99]

i started as an auditor....pay sucks but got a lot of female koligs....:eek:
Can i come to interview in ur company oso ah bro? :p :laugh:

[song cm]

Can i come to interview in ur company oso ah bro? :p :laugh:

haha...dat one ex-company larr...current company...not much choices...:(

[dragoncity99]

haha...dat one ex-company larr...current company...not much choices...:(
Oh no.....argghhh.....suddenly severe headache...no girls in ur office now bro.... ouch....:weird:

Poor me....no place to exercise my mata oledi. Everyday see the KLCC tower here and there walking around. :laugh:

[Ah Boh]

haha... my company alot gals, ratio in finance is 10:1 ! but u hafta be very thick skin if u try to join, keke...

[song cm]

wow...dats extreme ratio.....
next Q...all leng ornot?

btw, why thick-skin?

[Ah Boh]

oh, half d gals are lenglui n half are married but unfortunately for u guys, both halves are one n d same, if u get my meaning.

as for d thick skin part, well, these ladies are tough n speak their mind. they dun take bullshit fm anyone. hmm.. maybe dats why they are on d higher rung of d ladder!

[song cm]

married leng luis....hmm....interesting....

err...u not married worr :laugh:

[dragoncity99]

haha... my company alot gals, ratio in finance is 10:1 ! but u hafta be very thick skin if u try to join, keke...
10:1 ??? Sound so sad to me.

Thick skin? :blink:

married leng luis....hmm....interesting....

err...u not married worr :laugh:
That means she's not leng lui loh bro..... hahahahah LOL ROFL

wow...dats extreme ratio.....
next Q...all leng ornot?

btw, why thick-skin?
Leng or not Leng belakang kira...we go there work first...slowly filter.... :laugh:

[Adele]

every thread the males generally show what a MCP they are hor??? tsk tsk tsk........... anyways, who wants to start a career in an MNC FMCG company? it's not that tough to get in edi now.... even dungus like me can be management trainee w/o job experience (didn't do Ind. Trainning either) and qualifications (only a BSc in Biochem from UM). heard if you are in a FMCG, you are pretty much wanted everywhere else and the pay increase is a minimum 30% when you leave. not bad huh? ;)

[dragoncity99]

every thread the males generally show what a MCP they are hor??? tsk tsk tsk........... anyways, who wants to start a career in an MNC FMCG company? it's not that tough to get in edi now.... even dungus like me can be management trainee w/o job experience (didn't do Ind. Trainning either) and qualifications (only a BSc in Biochem from UM). heard if you are in a FMCG, you are pretty much wanted everywhere else and the pay increase is a minimum 30% when you leave. not bad huh? ;)
Aiseh, why lah say liddat..... :crying:

So sad....

[Adele]

Aiseh, why lah say liddat..... :crying:

So sad....
because it's true??? :huh: :h: :sus:

[dragoncity99]

because it's true??? :huh: :h: :sus:
ok loh.... :sad-2:

[song cm]

aiseh adele...we play play nia.....we are not mcp for sure...buaya mebbe....:eek:

[LiLiaN]

song, definitely flirty rather than mcp... :laugh: :laugh:
(want me to change your title to superflirty alumni legend?) :p

[song cm]

haha...lilian...tks for the vote of confident.....:p

[Adele]

ok, back to study vs working life k?? no point going on and on about MCPs and buayas and flirt and the sorts. it'll never end. they are produced by the millions by the minutes! sigh.... the world just can't live with 'em yet can't live w/o 'em! :D this is the thing i don't like about virtual reality, you can't really know the person's expression. i was just stating my observation. no anger or disgust or any negative emotions involved. so, it's all cool ya?? :D
please! who else is in a FMCG company?? what trade company products at staff price anot?? ;)

[Lava Gal]

MNC FMCG

erm people...can de-code that one for me plz...me dungu here lar :p

MNC= multi national company??

Tanx in advance

[Adele]

erm people...can de-code that one for me plz...me dungu here lar :p

MNC= multi national company??

Tanx in advance
yes, you got MNC right. FMCG = Fast Moving Consumer Goods :D you're NOT a dungu!! it's very smart of you to ask when you don't know. dungus are people who don't know but out of sheer ego, pretend that they know! :)

[Lava Gal]

hehe..tanx adele.

now i know :D

haha...as they say, if u ask...u appear an idiot for 5secs...if u don't...u r one for a lifetime ;)

[funkmeister]

sorry to cont the trend but what IS fast moving consumer goods (FMCG) :laugh: issit manufactured goods? distributioN companies? wat industry lines?

[Adele]

sorry to cont the trend but what IS fast moving consumer goods (FMCG) :laugh: issit manufactured goods? distributioN companies? wat industry lines?
haha... andrew so farnie you! i thought i should be learning lots from you leh... i'm so new to this industry myself. banking line should know lotsa industry right?? anyway, yes, manufactured goods. for mine, we do foods to personal and home care. so we have shampoos and soaps to laundry and dishwashing detergent to ice-cream and seasonings. Unilever is known to be the best Marketing FMCG company globally. our direct competitor is P&G and the rest like Nestle, Reckitt, and the likes. we manufacture and sell them through our distributors or customers like hypermarts. i can't tell you much 'coz i'm still learning myself. but hope i managed to clear slightly the blur vision of your FMCG understanding! :)

[funkmeister]

haha... andrew so farnie you! i thought i should be learning lots from you leh... i'm so new to this industry myself. banking line should know lotsa industry right?? anyway, yes, manufactured goods. for mine, we do foods to personal and home care. so we have shampoos and soaps to laundry and dishwashing detergent to ice-cream and seasonings. Unilever is known to be the best Marketing FMCG company globally. our direct competitor is P&G and the rest like Nestle, Reckitt, and the likes. we manufacture and sell them through our distributors or customers like hypermarts. i can't tell you much 'coz i'm still learning myself. but hope i managed to clear slightly the blur vision of your FMCG understanding! :)

:amused: so sorry to disappoint u. I'm not tat familiar with that term. btw, I think you're working in a great area of growth and will learn alot abt how these companies work. perhaps next time i can get a job wif u :eek:

[Adele]

:amused: so sorry to disappoint u. I'm not tat familiar with that term. btw, I think you're working in a great area of growth and will learn alot abt how these companies work. perhaps next time i can get a job wif u :eek:
then you DON'T come back to M'sia. i edi warn Sarah ka jie not to come back. 'coz i'm gonna request for expatriate-ship after 3 years here (provided i don't leave for another company la... hehe). so, if i go to Unilever Australia, i'll get you a job there if you're still interested at that time. k? ;)

[funkmeister]

how interesting. my friends gf is working in unilever aust. She worked for the big 4 then decided to switch. let me know when you are thinking of coming and i can into u to her (if she's still there!).

[Adele]

how interesting. my friends gf is working in unilever aust. She worked for the big 4 then decided to switch. let me know when you are thinking of coming and i can into u to her (if she's still there!).
haha... yea, one thing about working in a FMCG company, you tend to jump alot. 'coz pretty high in demand ma... especially if you're good and well known. oh well, we'll see how the Lord leads la hor... doesn't matter if i work there. will still drop by to visit you both soon! ;)

[funkmeister]

haha... yea, one thing about working in a FMCG company, you tend to jump alot. 'coz pretty high in demand ma... especially if you're good and well known. oh well, we'll see how the Lord leads la hor... doesn't matter if i work there. will still drop by to visit you both soon! ;)

excellent. we look forward to tat.

[Ah Boh]

i went for one of my company's subsidiary's AGM yesterday, a Sunday!

hmm... how nice if i can claim OT cuz its definitely beyond d call of duty but unfortunately no such policy in my company.

actually its not compulsory but boss said "encouraged" to attend cuz i alone handle sub's a/c, so office politics decree dat i go... thus i went.

it was interesting but my sunday was ruined. i wanted to go shopping! :(

[funkmeister]

I'm surprised that an AGM is actually held sunday (weekend). How do all the ppl who are stakeholders in the company attend?

[Ah Boh]

I'm surprised that an AGM is actually held sunday (weekend). How do all the ppl who are stakeholders in the company attend?

dats d whole idea... apparently d property owners aka shareholders (its a property mgt co) ask for a weekend AGM so they dun hafta take leave from work! in fact, it was such an informal affair dat it was held at one of d owners' luxury bungalow at his/her consent. weird huh?

[funkmeister]

dats d whole idea... apparently d property owners aka shareholders (its a property mgt co) ask for a weekend AGM so they dun hafta take leave from work! in fact, it was such an informal affair dat it was held at one of d owners' luxury bungalow at his/her consent. weird huh?

very relek :D

[Ah Boh]

yalor... wish my job dat relek every day...

u know d one thing i really miss during my studying days? FREEDOM!

i could drop my books for a day or even skip a class, just to go shopping n catch a movie with frens or hang out at home playing pc games. Once we even took d cable car up to genting in d morn n play d whole day b4 return home in late evening. hmm... i think we all wanted to ponteng a couple of extremely boring lectures dat day. hehe...

now? im tired after work hours, swim abit n read newspapers then get ready for bed. i cant take a day off on a whim cuz it'll be 'emergency leave' n it looks bad on my record. weekends are my only gap in time to recharge n restock my groceries, catch up with chores & laundry. if i have time & energy left, then n only then, i try to catch up with frens. sigh... wat a life.

[song cm]

but wat is the used of freedom if got no money??.....
Bobo...simple larr....go n "kau" a big fish lorr...then got freedom and $$$...settle....:)

[Lava Gal]

now? im tired after work hours, swim abit n read newspapers then get ready for bed. i cant take a day off on a whim cuz it'll be 'emergency leave' n it looks bad on my record. weekends are my only gap in time to recharge n restock my groceries, catch up with chores & laundry. if i have time & energy left, then n only then, i try to catch up with frens. sigh... wat a life.
u make it sound like u some makcik tua ni la...tired, rest...pprs...left out all the juicy bit ya :p

[malcolm]

but wat is the used of freedom if got no money??.....
Bobo...simple larr....go n "kau" a big fish lorr...then got freedom and $$$...settle....:)

she got the fish ady...
:eek:

[Lava Gal]

shhh malc, u better not be too loud
then boh come after u wif big 'parang' :p

[dragoncity99]

u make it sound like u some makcik tua ni la...tired, rest...pprs...left out all the juicy bit ya :p
She is old my dear sis. Don't u aglee my sis here her style look auntie? Even her dressing and attitude? :eek: :laugh:

That's good, very good attitude loh.

[Ah Boh]

but wat is the used of freedom if got no money??.....
Bobo...simple larr....go n "kau" a big fish lorr...then got freedom and $$$...settle....:)

wahhh... u got me wrong, my fren. i may be abit materialistic but im also very independent, besides im happier spending $$$ I earned n not by "donation".

she got the fish ady...
:eek:

wat fish?? oh... dat! err, fish still learning to swim lar... keke :laugh:

shhh malc, u better not be too loud
then boh come after u wif big 'parang' :p

yalor! ic an hear u all d way in my office!

[Lava Gal]

:laugh: just learning how to swim ya...then, learn swimming together gether lo ;)

[Ah Boh]

:laugh: just learning how to swim ya...then, learn swimming together gether lo ;)

i assume 'swimming' being a metaphor for our situation in life. then i guess we're all still learning. i think i got d basic strokes right but am afraid to try d fancy ones cuz may risk drowning.

but u know wat? if frens 'swim' side by side, it gives us courage to go forth cuz there will always be helping hands to pull me up if i lose heart n let myself sink...

so my answer to u is yes, let us go swimming together! :)

p.s. i do love good company at my swimming pool, if all along u mean d real swimming! :laugh:

[song cm]

wahhh... u got me wrong, my fren. i may be abit materialistic but im also very independent, besides im happier spending $$$ I earned n not by "donation".



wat fish?? oh... dat! err, fish still learning to swim lar... keke :laugh:



yalor! ic an hear u all d way in my office!

but it is even better to spend wat u earned and aso wat he earned....:laugh:

[Adele]

but it is even better to spend wat u earned and aso wat he earned....:laugh:
HERE! HERE! CHEERS!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[song cm]

HERE! HERE! CHEERS!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

haha....but do remember dat this source of income might not be permanent horr....:eek:

[Lava Gal]

i assume 'swimming' being a metaphor for our situation in life. then i guess we're all still learning. i think i got d basic strokes right but am afraid to try d fancy ones cuz may risk drowning.

but u know wat? if frens 'swim' side by side, it gives us courage to go forth cuz there will always be helping hands to pull me up if i lose heart n let myself sink...
so my answer to u is yes, let us go swimming together! :)

p.s. i do love good company at my swimming pool, if all along u mean d real swimming! :laugh:
aye aye....who wants to swim with me? swimming in the sea of life...i am learning well i guess.

but swimming in real water:o - i wish i hadnt forgotten...tatz one of my 'lost' & childhood regrets

[Adele]

haha....but do remember dat this source of income might not be permanent horr....:eek:
:laugh: then, we just have to 'study' and 'work' to keep the income permanent la right?? ;) :p

[Ah Boh]

aye aye....who wants to swim with me? swimming in the sea of life...i am learning well i guess.

but swimming in real water:o - i wish i hadnt forgotten...tatz one of my 'lost' & childhood regrets

dun be sad! sumtimes we swim too fast or too far to notice frens just beside us trying to keep up n watch our backs from buayas! wahahaha..... :eek:

[Lava Gal]

dun be sad! sumtimes we swim too fast or too far to notice frens just beside us trying to keep up n watch our backs from buayas! wahahaha..... :eek:
hahaha...well said though.
this one quote on frenship:
dont walk behind me, i may not lead;
dont walk in front of me, i may not follow;
just walk beside me - side by side (duno if got say hold my hands ;))
and be my fren.

[Chris C]

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