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euj
04-04-2006, 01:07 PM
I propose that if someone wants to give someone elase positive or negative, they should also have to leave the names/user ID. I'm not a fan of anonymous feedback, especially of the negative kind and that is usually not very constructive. The person usually doesn't say much if anything at all and I have no idea who it is. What does eveyone else think?

SS2006
04-04-2006, 01:20 PM
I propose that if someone wants to give someone elase positive or negative, they should also have to leave the names/user ID. I'm not a fan of anonymous feedback, especially of the negative kind and that is usually not very constructive. The person usually doesn't say much if anything at all and I have no idea who it is. What does eveyone else think?
I support 100% Eugene's statement. Positive or negative comments, please leave name. Negative criticism i'm sure everyone can accept, it's the hiding behind anonymity that pissed me off. Is it possible to make the ID as default everytime someone gives a repo?

alfred98
04-04-2006, 01:42 PM
Like that no bad guys in the forum lah!!!!:p

daBoss
04-04-2006, 01:51 PM
can be done... but again, need to hack... too many hacks liao... when upgrade, i have headache... :(

siewjang
04-04-2006, 01:56 PM
Without leaving nicks is ok. But at least state your points! Don't just f*ckin* give a red.

Lava Gal
04-04-2006, 01:59 PM
am all for it..age old issue this one is.
i too am not fond of anonymity, lets all shed the mask :)
- at least state the REASON, justify ur repo!

athena
04-04-2006, 02:01 PM
jang's england getting flowery liao...


hi lava.....long timeno see....bcome yoda dy?


anyway, i'm all for transparent system....

siewjang
04-04-2006, 02:02 PM
Why you ppl want to know the identity? Is it important? The priority there is the remark.

ahem Ath, me got self censored hor.

SS2006
04-04-2006, 02:03 PM
Without leaving nicks is ok. But at least state your points! Don't just f*ckin* give a red.
Easier to just click red...no need to think of any points to justify.
Sometimes a friendly banter between 2 posters also people misunderstand and gave red worr...no name given, how to enlighten the person?

noname
04-04-2006, 02:05 PM
yup, i agreed it too.

same goes to those who give +ve repo... give name lah... otherwise i wont know who is giving me +ve repo :p

siewjang
04-04-2006, 02:06 PM
As long as you know what is right. Who cares what other think? Sometimes they don't even read the whole thread and just jump in to conclusion. So ******* ignorant.

athena
04-04-2006, 02:07 PM
Why you ppl want to know the identity? Is it important? The priority there is the remark.

ahem Ath, me got self censored hor.
i know...u good forummer......*muacks* athena sayang hor!

siewjang
04-04-2006, 02:08 PM
yup, i agreed it too.

same goes to those who give +ve repo... give name lah... otherwise i wont know who is giving me +ve repo :p
Some ppl want to know who gave the +ve so that they will give them back in return or expect the return. that is not the right way. You like just green and make a good remark. Don't like red and give your point of view. Simple as that.

Lava Gal
04-04-2006, 02:15 PM
yoda = MIA? kinda stressed out...so came in to destress abit

if got name, can clarify matters if ter-hurt someone's feelings.

noname
04-04-2006, 02:16 PM
dun say like tt... :p

sometimes the -ve repo... i want to see know who is the person giving. sometimes maybe the person have a bad impression on you, then he/she always give you bad repo... (who know)

i want to see it in good intention... whether is reasonable or not. tt's all.

athena
04-04-2006, 02:17 PM
yoda = MIA? kinda stressed out...so came in to destress abit

if got name, can clarify matters if ter-hurt someone's feelings.
yoda as in star wars..:laugh:

Fishingman
04-04-2006, 02:36 PM
I agree to the ID part, it's nice to know who is in agreement with you and who are not. So far me naver give red b4, was tempted to but cannot give coz not yet spread enough to give again. hehehe. Only got 2 reds so far. also dunno from who wan.

siewjang
04-04-2006, 02:40 PM
What about the remark? Issit acceptable? If the remark acceptable are you going to pm that person and thanks him/her a zillion?

noname
04-04-2006, 02:43 PM
doesnt matter whether the remarks is ok or not.

for me, if remark not ok, dun want to PM them. 1st thing, dunno the person will respond. 2nd thing, might provoke further arguement.

if remark is alright, might PM the person for guidance and correction. be positive thinking. :D

Chris C
04-04-2006, 03:48 PM
I would like to say something about this repo thingy as nowdays, more and more complains r coming in about the forum.......everyone knows that it's been clearly abused. It is becoming more of a 'competition for status'. It's not a sin to want to be on the top, or wanting to be adored and admired by many.But what we're having here is slowly becoming a child's play. No need to get so uptight about it. Why is it that when one says that he/she doesn't mind, or the reputation thing is not important, he/she will be thinking of assassinating whoever that person is who red them?

My thinking r the same as SJ, it really doesn't matter whether a name is included or not. Knowing the identity won't turn me into a millionaire, and neither will it make me a bankrupt if I don't know the identity.If any of u want to red me for for saying what I want to say, go ahead. I don't expect everyone to love me, and neither can anyone demand me to love him/her.All of us here r adults, and many of us r married too. When we entered into this forum, it's like entering into a 'marriage'.

We had our honeymoon time when everything was wonderfull and blissfull. And like a marriage, we will face problems , irritations and disagreements as time pass. So what r we going to do about it? Point the finger at each other and end the marriage? What happened to once,'' the best forum'', " it bought so much laughter and happiness'', "i'm so thankful for the forum"? Why does it always have to end up with, "it's all your fault!"? None of us r the same. We have to give and take. And if sometimes giving more don't require u to jump off Petronas Twin Tower, and will benefit everyone, is it really that hard? We owed it the admins and mods for this forum.

And just b'cos we're acsians, doesn't mean we own this forum. Have any of u ever even think of what the admins and mods feel when there's uneasiness in the forum? Like I've said, we owed it to them, and not they owed it to us.I feel sad when I hear from them about their unhappiness. I know I would too if my sincere service is not appreciated. And yes, they're humans too.

Every petty different opinions or unhappiness shouldn't be outblown. If the admins choose to end this forum, which they have every right too, since we're turning into stubborn 4 yrs old, tell, me, r any of u willing to start another one, be there 24/7, and gaurantee to please everyone and comply with everyones' wishes? Can any of u do that???? It's so easy to say, 'I'll be able to handle it',.....but once u've bitten into the chili, only then will u know how hot it is.Please stop thinking about our own selfish self and try to make this forum sail smoothly and happily.

All of us here r responsible to make it work, not just the admins and mods. We have to work hard to keep a marriage work, the same goes with friendship if u treasure it.If u find so much fault and have so much to complain about, I wonder why u even bother to be in this forum in the 1st place......:sad-2:

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 03:55 PM
can be done... but again, need to hack... too many hacks liao... when upgrade, i have headache... :(
I agreed. Too many hacks will be hard to keep track during upgrading.

Aiyah...ppl, if they leave name keh...no leave name keh.....so be it laaa....
when you check your points, you will see which the posting which you have gotten, red or green, then click back on that link to check what you have said lor........if it is red on the posting, then somebody dun agree with you lor......if green, then you have make somebody smile lor.... :) Thats all of you wanted to know rite?? :D

siewjang
04-04-2006, 03:59 PM
.....If u find so much fault and have so much to complain about, I wonder why u even bother to be in this forum in the 1st place......:sad-2:
Agreed!:)

For my case, if i syok then i read/post. If not syok then sit in one corner. If you think the forum are too stress for you, take a few days break. And when you missed them, we are always here to welcome and hentaming you with open arms :) .

Just side track a bit. I respect noname. After a few hantaming, he's still back and as calm as ever. This is the way to be.

Chris C
04-04-2006, 04:03 PM
Agreed!:)

For my case, if i syok then i read/post. If not syok then sit in one corner. If you think the forum are too stress for you, take a few days break. And when you missed them, we are always here to welcome and hentaming you with open arms :) .

Just side track a bit. I respect noname. After a few hantaming, he's still back and as calm as ever. This is the way to be.
Same here, if u want to be treated and respected as an adult, act and be one....

LiLiaN
04-04-2006, 04:08 PM
chris, thanks a lot for your thoughts... :)

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 04:14 PM
Chris, should I green you for your wonderful remarks or red you for making my tau hin hin reading it?? :eek: :p

Chris C
04-04-2006, 04:17 PM
chris, thanks a lot for your thoughts... :)
....don't mention it Lil......cos' I owe it to the forum and u guys and gals for the friendships found and priceless joy it has given me...

Chris, should I green you for your wonderful remarks or red you for making my tau hin hin reading it??:eek: :p
haha .....take a panadol 1st....when your head is no longer spinning, then u make the decision...:p

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 04:23 PM
haha .....take a panadol 1st....when your head is no longer spinning, then u make the decision...:p
hahaha...maybe a few panadol only will work. and also a cigar too........:p :p

Alkapocino
04-04-2006, 04:24 PM
I would like to say something about this repo thingy as nowdays, more and more complains r coming in about the forum.......everyone knows that it's been clearly abused. It is becoming more of a 'competition for status'. It's not a sin to want to be on the top, or wanting to be adored and admired by many.But what we're having here is slowly becoming a child's play. No need to get so uptight about it. Why is it that when one says that he/she doesn't mind, or the reputation thing is not important, he/she will be thinking of assassinating whoever that person is who red them? My thinking r the same as SJ, it really doesn't matter whether a name is included or not. Knowing the identity won't turn me into a millionaire, and neither will it make me a bankrupt if I don't know the identity.If any of u want to red me for for saying what I want to say, go ahead. I don't expect everyone to love me, and neither can anyone demand me to love him/her.
All of us here r adults, and many of us r married too. When we entered into this forum, it's like entering into a 'marriage'. We had our honeymoon time when everything was wonderfull and blissfull. And like a marriage, we will face problems , irritations and disagreements as time pass. So what r we going to do about it? Point the finger at each other and end the marriage? What happened to once,'' the best forum'', " it bought so much laughter and happiness'', "i'm so thankful for the forum"? Why does it always have to end up with, "it's all your fault!"? None of us r the same. We have to give and take. And if sometimes giving more don't require u to jump off Petronas Twin Tower, and will benefit everyone, is it really that hard? We owed it the admins and mods for this forum. And just b'cos we're acsians, doesn't mean we own this forum. Have any of u ever even think of what the admins and mods feel when there's uneasiness in the forum? Like I've said, we owed it to them, and not they owed it to us.I feel sad when I hear from them about their unhappiness. I know I would too if my sincere service is not appreciated. And yes, they're humans too.
Every petty different opinions or unhappiness shouldn't be outblown. If the admins choose to end this forum, which they have every right too, since we're turning into stubborn 4 yrs old, tell, me, r any of u willing to start another one, be there 24/7, and gaurantee to please everyone and comply with everyones' wishes? Can any of u do that???? It's so easy to say, 'I'll be able to handle it',.....but once u've bitten into the chili, only then will u know how hot it is.Please stop thinking about our own selfish self and try to make this forum sail smoothly and happily. All of us here r responsible to make it work, not just the admins and mods. We have to work hard to keep a marriage work, the same goes with friendship if u treasure it.If u find so much fault and have so much to complain about, I wonder why u even bother to be in this forum in the 1st place......:sad-2:
Chris mama..how long did you take to type this message!!! Muaks!!!:laugh:

Alkapocino
04-04-2006, 04:27 PM
I propose that if someone wants to give someone elase positive or negative, they should also have to leave the names/user ID. I'm not a fan of anonymous feedback, especially of the negative kind and that is usually not very constructive. The person usually doesn't say much if anything at all and I have no idea who it is. What does eveyone else think?
Ai say man...just be like alfred98! DO NOT click your CP so you'll never know who reps you. :D

Chris C
04-04-2006, 04:31 PM
Chris mama..how long did you take to type this message!!! Muaks!!!:laugh:
.......vely vely loooonnnngggggg........:squeeze: :p

Odysseus
04-04-2006, 04:32 PM
Chris, I want to green you for the effort and red you for the confusion. Net, zero points :p

t-wei
04-04-2006, 04:35 PM
.......vely vely loooonnnngggggg........:squeeze: :p

well said mama chris!! worth the time!!:laugh:

Alkapocino
04-04-2006, 04:36 PM
Chris, I want to green you for the effort and red you for the confusion. Net, zero points :p
Do it to me please....make sure you give green first duh!!!! ;)

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 04:38 PM
Chris, I want to green you for the effort and red you for the confusion. Net, zero points :p
oi....why are you following what I said earlier!!!!

Btw how you get zero points with one green and red???????

Can do that to me?? but green first hor!!!:eek: :p

Odysseus
04-04-2006, 04:38 PM
Do it to me please....make sure you give green first duh!!!! ;)
How about RED first, then GREEN?

Hades
04-04-2006, 04:40 PM
well in a lot of ways i agree with wat Chris says. but then again, i feel that the repo system is just an excuse to get all competative with the rest of the forummers. i do admit i have conflicts with other forummers but at the end of the day, i couldnt even be bothered about giving them a red repo. i personally experience -ve repo given from the same person twice, it's like as if i stepped on that person's tail. so somtimes i juz wonder, if that forummer dun like my posts so much y bother coming in my thread to read it in the first place. weird oso sometimes ppl wanna be curious and read along but when they see something they dun like they juz squash it unto the ground. :crying:

conclusion, if u were to ask me, repo sys should definately be out, at least we have something lesser to compete to. next is the post counts...i wonder, all grown ups like us still competing?? c'mon la! post counts oso wanna compete ah? i know the glamour of it all la but wat possible benefit u can reap out of it??

i'm sorry if i hurt anyone in this post but then again seeing all these things happening with our own ppl, this is really a pain in the a$$....start changing and get a grip of urself.

noname
04-04-2006, 04:42 PM
ahahaha. agreed with you. nowadays i tried not to click on CP... the lesser i know, the better :D

wah, jang... dont say until like that lah... *shy shy* muahahaha...

*hug hug*

Chris C
04-04-2006, 04:42 PM
Chris, I want to green you for the effort and red you for the confusion. Net, zero points :p
:laugh: .....edit liao.....did some spacing.....better now??....aiya..lau liao lah....always getting tau hin-hin......i recommend DOM.....:p :p

Alkapocino
04-04-2006, 04:45 PM
:laugh: .....edit liao.....did some spacing.....better now??....aiya..lau liao lah....always getting tau hin-hin......i recommend DOM.....:p :p
He himself is a D.O.M no need DOM liao!!! :p

Odysseus
04-04-2006, 04:57 PM
He himself is a D.O.M no need DOM liao!!! :p
Wat is D.O.M???? Tau hin la...

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 04:59 PM
Wat is D.O.M???? Tau hin la...
you dun know meh??? Like you lor.....:eek: :p

Odysseus
04-04-2006, 05:58 PM
you dun know meh??? Like you lor.....:eek: :p
If I know, I dun ask alreadi.... I thot it's like u - D'Oddfather Master:p :eek:

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 06:30 PM
If I know, I dun ask alreadi.... I thot it's like u - D'Oddfather Master:p :eek:
dun pretend laaaa...... :p

alfred98
04-04-2006, 07:48 PM
I would like to say something about this repo thingy as nowdays, more and more complains r coming in about the forum.......everyone knows that it's been clearly abused. It is becoming more of a 'competition for status'. It's not a sin to want to be on the top, or wanting to be adored and admired by many.But what we're having here is slowly becoming a child's play. No need to get so uptight about it. Why is it that when one says that he/she doesn't mind, or the reputation thing is not important, he/she will be thinking of assassinating whoever that person is who red them?

My thinking r the same as SJ, it really doesn't matter whether a name is included or not. Knowing the identity won't turn me into a millionaire, and neither will it make me a bankrupt if I don't know the identity.If any of u want to red me for for saying what I want to say, go ahead. I don't expect everyone to love me, and neither can anyone demand me to love him/her.All of us here r adults, and many of us r married too. When we entered into this forum, it's like entering into a 'marriage'.

We had our honeymoon time when everything was wonderfull and blissfull. And like a marriage, we will face problems , irritations and disagreements as time pass. So what r we going to do about it? Point the finger at each other and end the marriage? What happened to once,'' the best forum'', " it bought so much laughter and happiness'', "i'm so thankful for the forum"? Why does it always have to end up with, "it's all your fault!"? None of us r the same. We have to give and take. And if sometimes giving more don't require u to jump off Petronas Twin Tower, and will benefit everyone, is it really that hard? We owed it the admins and mods for this forum.

And just b'cos we're acsians, doesn't mean we own this forum. Have any of u ever even think of what the admins and mods feel when there's uneasiness in the forum? Like I've said, we owed it to them, and not they owed it to us.I feel sad when I hear from them about their unhappiness. I know I would too if my sincere service is not appreciated. And yes, they're humans too.

Every petty different opinions or unhappiness shouldn't be outblown. If the admins choose to end this forum, which they have every right too, since we're turning into stubborn 4 yrs old, tell, me, r any of u willing to start another one, be there 24/7, and gaurantee to please everyone and comply with everyones' wishes? Can any of u do that???? It's so easy to say, 'I'll be able to handle it',.....but once u've bitten into the chili, only then will u know how hot it is.Please stop thinking about our own selfish self and try to make this forum sail smoothly and happily.

All of us here r responsible to make it work, not just the admins and mods. We have to work hard to keep a marriage work, the same goes with friendship if u treasure it.If u find so much fault and have so much to complain about, I wonder why u even bother to be in this forum in the 1st place......:sad-2:
Wow!!! Chris!!! Love U for this muak!!!! Husband don't jeolous ah!!!!! Green green!!!!:)

alfred98
04-04-2006, 07:50 PM
Ai say man...just be like alfred98! DO NOT click your CP so you'll never know who reps you. :D
I don't see but curi curi tengok leh....Heheehheehee:laugh:

Sila
04-04-2006, 08:54 PM
chris - thanks for your post. :) really appreciate seeing it.

monay
04-04-2006, 09:26 PM
well said, chris... well sometimes i give green rep without giving my name cos i don't want to person to feel obligated to rep me back, but i see most ppl would like to know who they made smile.....:)

daBoss
04-04-2006, 10:27 PM
chris, your post made me want to cry leh... :crying:

thanks for the post... :D
I would like to say something about this repo thingy as nowdays, more and more complains r coming in about the forum.......everyone knows that it's been clearly abused. It is becoming more of a 'competition for status'. It's not a sin to want to be on the top, or wanting to be adored and admired by many.But what we're having here is slowly becoming a child's play. No need to get so uptight about it. Why is it that when one says that he/she doesn't mind, or the reputation thing is not important, he/she will be thinking of assassinating whoever that person is who red them?

My thinking r the same as SJ, it really doesn't matter whether a name is included or not. Knowing the identity won't turn me into a millionaire, and neither will it make me a bankrupt if I don't know the identity.If any of u want to red me for for saying what I want to say, go ahead. I don't expect everyone to love me, and neither can anyone demand me to love him/her.All of us here r adults, and many of us r married too. When we entered into this forum, it's like entering into a 'marriage'.

We had our honeymoon time when everything was wonderfull and blissfull. And like a marriage, we will face problems , irritations and disagreements as time pass. So what r we going to do about it? Point the finger at each other and end the marriage? What happened to once,'' the best forum'', " it bought so much laughter and happiness'', "i'm so thankful for the forum"? Why does it always have to end up with, "it's all your fault!"? None of us r the same. We have to give and take. And if sometimes giving more don't require u to jump off Petronas Twin Tower, and will benefit everyone, is it really that hard? We owed it the admins and mods for this forum.

And just b'cos we're acsians, doesn't mean we own this forum. Have any of u ever even think of what the admins and mods feel when there's uneasiness in the forum? Like I've said, we owed it to them, and not they owed it to us.I feel sad when I hear from them about their unhappiness. I know I would too if my sincere service is not appreciated. And yes, they're humans too.

Every petty different opinions or unhappiness shouldn't be outblown. If the admins choose to end this forum, which they have every right too, since we're turning into stubborn 4 yrs old, tell, me, r any of u willing to start another one, be there 24/7, and gaurantee to please everyone and comply with everyones' wishes? Can any of u do that???? It's so easy to say, 'I'll be able to handle it',.....but once u've bitten into the chili, only then will u know how hot it is.Please stop thinking about our own selfish self and try to make this forum sail smoothly and happily.

All of us here r responsible to make it work, not just the admins and mods. We have to work hard to keep a marriage work, the same goes with friendship if u treasure it.If u find so much fault and have so much to complain about, I wonder why u even bother to be in this forum in the 1st place......:sad-2:

Oddfather
04-04-2006, 10:32 PM
chris, your post made me want to cry leh... :crying:

thanks for the post... :D
dun cry alone hor.....

euj
04-05-2006, 12:11 AM
wow, i put this thread up this afternoon and now when i logged back in there were so many posts! glad to see a lot of people are interested in this topic. :) i agree with a lot that has been said here - if someone puts negative, they should say why. that's more important than who it it. having said that, i would like to know who said it too.
i also agree that a lot of people here seem to be very focused on the reputation points and also how many boobies they have.
finally, the thing that really cheeses me off is that when someone has something serious to talk about, often times someone else will just trivialise it and/or generalise. i know often it's to diffuse the situation and the intentions are good. i think maybe it's our asian culture where we don't like confronting issues. however, i think we should all be able to have intelligient discussion without getting upset, without becoming childish and being able to agree to disagree...

SS2006
04-05-2006, 08:14 AM
wow, i put this thread up this afternoon and now when i logged back in there were so many posts! glad to see a lot of people are interested in this topic. :) i agree with a lot that has been said here - if someone puts negative, they should say why. that's more important than who it it. having said that, i would like to know who said it too.
i also agree that a lot of people here seem to be very focused on the reputation points and also how many boobies they have.
finally, the thing that really cheeses me off is that when someone has something serious to talk about, often times someone else will just trivialise it and/or generalise. i know often it's to diffuse the situation and the intentions are good. i think maybe it's our asian culture where we don't like confronting issues. however, i think we should all be able to have intelligient discussion without getting upset, without becoming childish and being able to agree to disagree...
This part i agree 100% with Eugene again.

TingMS
04-05-2006, 09:07 AM
This part i agree 100% with Eugene again.



fulamak...

asyik agreed dengan eugene jer...

only 100%..??? why not 101% :laugh:

siewjang
04-05-2006, 09:12 AM
Euj, give me three cheer. Malaysia Boleh! Hip hip hooray!

Hades
04-05-2006, 09:20 AM
ummm, actually wat happened to the repo system now? is it reseted or something?

Hisham
04-05-2006, 09:24 AM
Fantastic post, EJ.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 09:30 AM
conclusion, if u were to ask me, repo sys should definately be out, at least we have something lesser to compete to. next is the post counts...i wonder, all grown ups like us still competing?? c'mon la! post counts oso wanna compete ah? i know the glamour of it all la but wat possible benefit u can reap out of it??
Just because you are always the target for red repo and you want this thing to be out. Isn't that a bit selfish? It's already a hint given by that person.

i'm sorry if i hurt anyone in this post but then again seeing all these things happening with our own ppl, this is really a pain in the a$$....start changing and get a grip of urself.
I'm being too honest here now. If you do not want to change and suit the others, join them!

siewjang
04-05-2006, 09:34 AM
ahahaha. agreed with you. nowadays i tried not to click on CP... the lesser i know, the better :D

wah, jang... dont say until like that lah... *shy shy* muahahaha...

*hug hug*
By not clicking on or avoiding the CP, you are just running from the truth and lying to yourself. Get over it guys. When you get a red, that means something is really wrong with your post or even your previous post. You won't find your post offensive but other IS!

Hades
04-05-2006, 09:40 AM
Just because you are always the target for red repo and you want this thing to be out. Isn't that a bit selfish? It's already a hint given by that person.


I'm being too honest here now. If you do not want to change and suit the others, join them!

so u do agree there are ppl who would juz target someone and give red repos?? i got it several times no doubt about it, but isnt that not the reason for red repo??

how would u like if i give u a red repo for no apparent reason?? how would u feel? u would be like "huh?? wat did i do??" u know...

siewjang
04-05-2006, 09:46 AM
so u do agree there are ppl who would juz target someone and give red repos?? i got it several times no doubt about it, but isnt that not the reason for red repo??

how would u like if i give u a red repo for no apparent reason?? how would u feel? u would be like "huh?? wat did i do??" u know...
:laugh: I know there are things happens like this la. What to do.

Sometimes, when someone don't like you, they will wait for your teeniest mistake to red you. This is human.

TingMS
04-05-2006, 09:52 AM
By not clicking on or avoiding the CP, you are just running from the truth and lying to yourself. Get over it guys. When you get a red, that means something is really wrong with your post or even your previous post. You won't find your post offensive but other IS!

I did get a red repo recently, but what the heck life goes on, my LU ANAK SIAPER will still be posted when and where I feel like it. The only sad thing is that i don't know why, but on a personal view, if anyone find that the post was not to his/her taste, why give a red and remain anonymous than to rebute it openly? Stand up and speak.. Isn;t this forum is all about? Each of us have our own thinking and way of seeing things. Maybe, we, forumers, take the posting too literally... If I said F*CK YOU, to so and so in this forum... I bet that person will give a ang pow to me almost immediately, but in actual life, in a interpersonal communication, those four letter words fly out from the mouth of my friends including myself most of the time and we can still laugh at it... What we lack in this forum is not the wisdom of the forumers but the body language, body sign, the tone expression in our voice when we say something...

so what the heck is a red repo... all I can see is some misinterpretation of the true meaning of the posting.

fulamak..

already 10am...

boss panggil again...

cheers.

Hades
04-05-2006, 10:03 AM
well i do agree that we have ppl who are a lil old fashion but i guess that is the strong point to make our forum a happy one, learning from ppl from different walks of life. but then do remember not everyone has the same taste, if u do not like the post, always have in mind that somehow others might like/agree to it. if u're giving a red repo based on ur own fickle minded way, i guess it's the wrong motive ady. red repo is mainly for the reason of if the poster said something that would hurt generally everyone or if it's totally out of the point; correct me if i'm wrong.

always think of others of what they would feel first. if ppl were to do it to u, and u realize that u'll dislike it, note that the others would dislike it as well. i mean c'mon, red repo is like giving a slap on the face of the person whom u diagree with, would u like me to slap u in person if u say something i dun like to me? wat i'm saying is plz be considerate. we're all grown ups here and i believe we should think like one.

SS2006
04-05-2006, 10:16 AM
fulamak...

asyik agreed dengan eugene jer...

only 100%..??? why not 101% :laugh:
Can't you see i tengah bodek Euj?:p
I did get a red repo recently, but what the heck life goes on, my LU ANAK SIAPER will still be posted when and where I feel like it. The only sad thing is that i don't know why, but on a personal view, if anyone find that the post was not to his/her taste, why give a red and remain anonymous than to rebute it openly? Stand up and speak.. Isn;t this forum is all about? Each of us have our own thinking and way of seeing things. Maybe, we, forumers, take the posting too literally... If I said F*CK YOU, to so and so in this forum... I bet that person will give a ang pow to me almost immediately, but in actual life, in a interpersonal communication, those four letter words fly out from the mouth of my friends including myself most of the time and we can still laugh at it... What we lack in this forum is not the wisdom of the forumers but the body language, body sign, the tone expression in our voice when we say something...

so what the heck is a red repo... all I can see is some misinterpretation of the true meaning of the posting.

fulamak..

already 10am...

boss panggil again...

cheers.
I agree with HG 101%.

Somehow i have the feeling that some red-repper are critics whojust sit back and readpost but did not contribute anything else except repo, thus unable to rebute their points openly. Please tell me i'm wrong.

Hades
04-05-2006, 10:21 AM
I agree with HG 101%.

Somehow i have the feeling that some red-repper are critics whojust sit back and readpost but did not contribute anything else except repo, thus unable to rebute their points openly. Please tell me i'm wrong.

or is this a typical kiasu attitute?? hehehe :o

cucuan
04-05-2006, 10:31 AM
I would like to say something about this repo thingy as nowdays, more and more complains r coming in about the forum.......everyone knows that it's been clearly abused. It is becoming more of a 'competition for status'. It's not a sin to want to be on the top, or wanting to be adored and admired by many.But what we're having here is slowly becoming a child's play. No need to get so uptight about it. Why is it that when one says that he/she doesn't mind, or the reputation thing is not important, he/she will be thinking of assassinating whoever that person is who red them?

My thinking r the same as SJ, it really doesn't matter whether a name is included or not. Knowing the identity won't turn me into a millionaire, and neither will it make me a bankrupt if I don't know the identity.If any of u want to red me for for saying what I want to say, go ahead. I don't expect everyone to love me, and neither can anyone demand me to love him/her.All of us here r adults, and many of us r married too. When we entered into this forum, it's like entering into a 'marriage'.

We had our honeymoon time when everything was wonderfull and blissfull. And like a marriage, we will face problems , irritations and disagreements as time pass. So what r we going to do about it? Point the finger at each other and end the marriage? What happened to once,'' the best forum'', " it bought so much laughter and happiness'', "i'm so thankful for the forum"? Why does it always have to end up with, "it's all your fault!"? None of us r the same. We have to give and take. And if sometimes giving more don't require u to jump off Petronas Twin Tower, and will benefit everyone, is it really that hard? We owed it the admins and mods for this forum.

And just b'cos we're acsians, doesn't mean we own this forum. Have any of u ever even think of what the admins and mods feel when there's uneasiness in the forum? Like I've said, we owed it to them, and not they owed it to us.I feel sad when I hear from them about their unhappiness. I know I would too if my sincere service is not appreciated. And yes, they're humans too.

Every petty different opinions or unhappiness shouldn't be outblown. If the admins choose to end this forum, which they have every right too, since we're turning into stubborn 4 yrs old, tell, me, r any of u willing to start another one, be there 24/7, and gaurantee to please everyone and comply with everyones' wishes? Can any of u do that???? It's so easy to say, 'I'll be able to handle it',.....but once u've bitten into the chili, only then will u know how hot it is.Please stop thinking about our own selfish self and try to make this forum sail smoothly and happily.

All of us here r responsible to make it work, not just the admins and mods. We have to work hard to keep a marriage work, the same goes with friendship if u treasure it.If u find so much fault and have so much to complain about, I wonder why u even bother to be in this forum in the 1st place......:sad-2:

Well said Chris, we need more people like you to raise the emotional, mental and intellectual maturity of some of our members. As ACSians, we take pride in our standards because of our upbringing in that great school. Yes, I agree that we r responsible for making this Forum work not the admins and mods. Yes again that we have to learn to agree to disagree. Personally when I put in a post I do not care a damn about repo or boobies and till today I do not know how that damn thing works. I just put in what I want but I am always mindful of certain sensitivities and that's why I try to be as careful as possible with my words used. As an ex-teacher I do care about how you all feel about certain issues and as a practising lawyer now I am more careful with my words. As someone said you have to read between the lines. If there are sensitivities breached just pm privately to the author of the thread and get certain clarifications from him or her to straighten things out and I am sure the the author will get the admins/mods to cut out those offending words if there are any.

cucuan

Voon Chan
04-05-2006, 10:41 AM
Can someone tell me the purpose of having a repo system.
Thank you

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 10:42 AM
Well said Chris, we need more people like you to raise the emotional, mental and intellectual maturity of some of our members. As ACSians, we take pride in our standards because of our upbringing in that great school. Yes, I agree that we r responsible for making this Forum work not the admins and mods. Yes again that we have to learn to agree to disagree. Personally when I put in a post I do not care a damn about repo or boobies and till today I do not know how that damn thing works. I just put in what I want but I am always mindful of certain sensitivities and that's why I try to be as careful as possible with my words used. As an ex-teacher I do care about how you all feel about certain issues and as a practising lawyer now I am more careful with my words. As someone said you have to read between the lines. If there are sensitivities breached just pm privately to the author of the thread and get certain clarifications from him or her to straighten things out and I am sure the the author will get the admins/mods to cut out those offending words if there are any.

cucuan
cucuan, my Q is how many of us are in that state of mind in the Forum?? Althou this is OUR Forum, all of us still have to maintain our composure at all times.

For example, the statement below, do you think the author has any sensitivity at all??

"plus they have been talking crap for quite some time now..."

All of us are guilty of some wrong doing in the Forum. Small or big, doesn't matter. We are all guilty.

To all forummers: what that needs to be said has been said, how do we move on from here??

celeste_chu
04-05-2006, 10:42 AM
transparent is good...
referring to those who give a red to someone else...
why no comments?
if disagree, should state reason why disagree and try put yourself in
that person's shoes.. what would you say instead?

siewjang
04-05-2006, 10:49 AM
Can someone tell me the purpose of having a repo system.
Thank you
Read the 1st thread by daBoss about the repo system. Or can you remember Vestibule case? The repo system is to handle such a case. Sad to say a small minority has abuse it.

song cm
04-05-2006, 10:49 AM
guys.....lets not get ahead of ourself here....what is the purpose of this thread?

1) to talk abt the rep system in general?

or

2) to talk abt red repo only??

If it is (1), I really feel that it would be a never-ending discussions as they are a lot of pros and cons of repo system in which we have discuss on countless occasions...Moreover, all of us have different opinions and therefore I don't think we will ever come to a unified opinion on the repo system...so, my advise is lets not discuss it here as it was not Euj's question to begin with......

As for (2), I believe that it would be up to a person to leave his identity. However that person should give a reason for giving a red repo but ultimately, I believe its totally up to that person. I don't think we shld hack the rep system just on this premise....

ungsutiong
04-05-2006, 10:49 AM
transparent is good...
referring to those who give a red to someone else...
why no comments?
if disagree, should state reason why disagree and try put yourself in
that person's shoes.. what would you say instead?
Sokong penuh penuh. Can we put the point system away? How about vouchers for free makan, movies, CD, pirated DVD.....etc. or maybe we can get together to raise some funds for charity?

Voon Chan
04-05-2006, 10:51 AM
Thank you Jang for the reminder:) Read the 1st thread by daBoss about the repo system. Or can you remember Vestibule case? The repo system is to handle such a case. Sad to say a small minority has abuse it.

Hades
04-05-2006, 10:51 AM
well like said before la, they wanna show their anger or disagreement, but they're such a coward to the extent they dun dare to put their name in...:o

siewjang
04-05-2006, 10:51 AM
guys.....lets not get ahead of ourself here....what is the purpose of this thread?

1) to talk abt the rep system in general?

or

2) to talk abt red repo only??...
Ok, guys! Back to topic.

and admin/mod, please do not close this thread AGAIN!:sus:

noname
04-05-2006, 10:52 AM
By not clicking on or avoiding the CP, you are just running from the truth and lying to yourself. Get over it guys. When you get a red, that means something is really wrong with your post or even your previous post. You won't find your post offensive but other IS!
depend to situation. even now, i dont really bother about the repo (100% honest).

as long i learn something here... is good for me already. sometimes 2 different ppl might perceives the content of the posting, differently. one might feel offended and the other is alright... nothing wrong. :D...

so far i get one -ve repo and the comment is quite strong. i also :O when i see it. for me, i just said it only without any intention but ppl think im bombard them... so get -ve repo.

after thinking about it, no point to get offence by it. life goes on... as advised by Dino and Kochun. *peace*

siewjang
04-05-2006, 10:54 AM
Sokong penuh penuh. Can we put the point system away? How about vouchers for free makan, movies, CD, pirated DVD.....etc. or maybe we can get together to raise some funds for charity?
Those that think it this way are a sore loser. Come on guys! Look at the brighter side altho some ppl is abusing the power.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 10:56 AM
after thinking about it, no point to get offence by it. life goes on... as advised by Dino and Kochun. *peace*
Can you put this as your signature? What's the big deal about getting a red if you really offended someone? (altho you thought you did not)

Hades
04-05-2006, 10:59 AM
hahah well said...but see lo, some ppl juz have grudges with u for dunno wat reason wan, well i have someone on my back all the time waiting for the chance to -ve repo me...hahaha it's like as if it's too normal for me to even bother liao, well if that person enjoys giving ppl red repo, then so shall it be la...i believe in this world everything is fair. u may get away with harming ppl, but there would be someone to harm in him/her in return...

siewjang
04-05-2006, 11:01 AM
The first time you get maybe will be a bit offended. But if that person keep on giving, don't you think he/she is a bit siao? Let that person siao la.

noname
04-05-2006, 11:03 AM
one thing want to ask... hope no offence to mod/admin person...

if i recalled it correctly, when the repo system is up & running, mod/admin said that they will monitor the bad -ve repo. To justify whether the -ve repo given is reasonable or just "simply" give only. So far I see and heard from forummer, when the person give -ve repo, it straight deduct it without going thru mod/admin. is it true? then how to justify it?

note: i know it will be tedious for you all to monitor the -ve repo but somehow... something must be done... otherwise "someone" will just simply give without reason.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 11:04 AM
Admin got say this meh?

noname
04-05-2006, 11:05 AM
Can you put this as your signature? What's the big deal about getting a red if you really offended someone? (altho you thought you did not)
:O dun want lah... i prefer clean signature = empty :p

Hades
04-05-2006, 11:12 AM
Admin got say this meh?

i dunno...i noob ma

noname
04-05-2006, 11:21 AM
Admin got say this meh?
:D as i said if i recalled it correctly...

refer to http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1415

refer to jcwong post... i hope it apply... :D

cucuan
04-05-2006, 11:24 AM
cucuan, my Q is how many of us are in that state of mind in the Forum?? Althou this is OUR Forum, all of us still have to maintain our composure at all times.

For example, the statement below, do you think the author has any sensitivity at all??

"plus they have been talking crap for quite some time now..."

All of us are guilty of some wrong doing in the Forum. Small or big, doesn't matter. We are all guilty.

To all forummers: what that needs to be said has been said, how do we move on from here??

Those who lack sensitivity, I put them under emotionally immatured. Those who talk craps are intellectually immatured. Because of that my only hope in this Forum is that help raise the maturity in these immatured members.

cucuan

siewjang
04-05-2006, 11:28 AM
:unsure: :squeeze: i'm immatured! I'm immatured!:squeeze:

song cm
04-05-2006, 11:40 AM
:D as i said if i recalled it correctly...

refer to http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1415

refer to jcwong post... i hope it apply... :D
i think JC was referring to reporting a Bad Post here and not on red repo....

noname
04-05-2006, 11:44 AM
hmmm... now seem like judgement statement to all immature ppl... L(

noname
04-05-2006, 11:46 AM
i think JC was referring to reporting a Bad Post here and not on red repo....
thanks.

then can i conclude mod/admin didnt monitor the bad or -ve repo???

siewjang
04-05-2006, 11:48 AM
:D as i said if i recalled it correctly...

refer to http://www.acs-sitiawan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1415

refer to jcwong post... i hope it apply... :D
Aiseh, it said bad post la. If someone give you a bad remark, you should pm the mod/admin. and they will TRY to help you out.:)

song cm
04-05-2006, 11:52 AM
thanks.

then can i conclude mod/admin didnt monitor the bad or -ve repo???

noname,

we don't monitor +ve or -ve rep pts but we do encourage you to inform us if you felt that you have been unfairly repped....and we will see wat we can do...

honestly, if you are only rep once by a person, chances are its becoz dat person din like your posts so, really mods and admins can't do anything abt it....

Hades
04-05-2006, 11:52 AM
Aiseh, it said bad post la. If someone give you a bad remark, you should pm the mod/admin. and they will TRY to help you out.:)

i wonder wat they TRy to do?? tryin to calm u down from the fire u gathering up after the -ve repo??
like "accept it." "it's ok la....take it like a man" or "dun worry lo, try not to offend this person again lo" or "nah give u back +ve repo"

i think's that's nothing that the admin/mod can do...it's not their fault. all they could do is juz comfort u i think :cool:

song cm
04-05-2006, 11:53 AM
i wonder wat they TRy to do?? tryin to calm u down from the fire u gathering up after the -ve repo??
like "accept it." "it's ok la....take it like a man" or "dun worry lo, try not to offend this person again lo" or "nah give u back +ve repo"

i think's that's nothing that the admin/mod can do...it's not their fault. all they could do is juz comfort u i think :cool:

we would edit the posts if required....

Hades
04-05-2006, 11:55 AM
we would edit the posts if required....
hehe but not the repo ma...the damage had been done...;)

siewjang
04-05-2006, 11:55 AM
i wonder wat they TRy to do?? tryin to calm u down from the fire u gathering up after the -ve repo??
like "accept it." "it's ok la....take it like a man" or "dun worry lo, try not to offend this person again lo" or "nah give u back +ve repo"

i think's that's nothing that the admin/mod can do...it's not their fault. all they could do is juz comfort u i think :cool:
If you read the link posted by noname, what JC said is actually some red repo spamming going round. and the 'try' that i was refering to is for the spamming!

Odysseus
04-05-2006, 11:57 AM
Those who lack sensitivity, I put them under emotionally immatured. Those who talk craps are intellectually immatured. Because of that my only hope in this Forum is that help raise the maturity in these immatured members.

cucuan
Well said......... Forum to help all of us grow in every possible ways :eek:

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 11:58 AM
Those who lack sensitivity, I put them under emotionally immatured. Those who talk craps are intellectually immatured. Because of that my only hope in this Forum is that help raise the maturity in these immatured members.

cucuan
cucuan, I am not talking about ppl who talk crap as all of us even I do that. Who doesn't talk crap in this Forum should not be here at all. they should be in an all saint forum.

What I am referring to is a crap calling the others crap. That is wrong.

I guessed that is why there is a saying.....the pot calling the kettle black. :blink: :unsure:

Dino
04-05-2006, 11:59 AM
Maybe some of you could take that red rep and learn from it?
I think i've said this many,many times....people...lighten up and take it easy. :)

noname
04-05-2006, 12:00 PM
noname,

we don't monitor +ve or -ve rep pts but we do encourage you to inform us if you felt that you have been unfairly repped....and we will see wat we can do...

honestly, if you are only rep once by a person, chances are its becoz dat person din like your posts so, really mods and admins can't do anything abt it....
ok. now i understand. thank you, sir!!!

so far, i didnt complaint it and i accept the -ve repo. :D

only will highlight to mod/admin if get numerous -ve repo (which is unfair only)... thanks for reminding us.

Hades
04-05-2006, 12:00 PM
cucuan, I am not talking about ppl who talk crap as all of us even I do that. Who doesn't talk crap in this Forum should not be here at all. they should be in an all saint forum.

What I am referring to is a crap calling the others crap. That is wrong.

I guessed that is why there is a saying.....the pot calling the kettle black. :blink: :unsure:

a bit the too deep for my pea brain to comprehand hehehe

song cm
04-05-2006, 12:01 PM
ok. now i understand. thank you, sir!!!

so far, i didnt complaint it and i accept the -ve repo. :D

only will highlight to mod/admin if get numerous -ve repo (which is unfair only)... thanks for reminding us.

no prob...we will do wat we can...:)

help us to help you....;)

siewjang
04-05-2006, 12:05 PM
a bit the too deep for my pea brain to comprehand hehehe
Let's take this as a lesson. If you think you had a pea brain, try not commenting further. Some ppl will get offended and will start giving red again. Then later you will complain. If go on like this ah.... aiyoh.... never ending la.

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:08 PM
So what is the conclusion?? Any??

noname
04-05-2006, 12:11 PM
a bit the too deep for my pea brain to comprehand hehehe
ok...

like mod/admin said, if you dont have thing to say or dont know about the topic alone, then please refrain to comment on other. other might get offended.

many ppl think their post can help ppl (i think)... but in fact, might hurt or create some spam post around...

nowadays, i will think twice before posting. 1st, post when i know the topic and can contribute it. 2nd, avoid create misunderstanding. 3rd, avoid spamming :D

noname
04-05-2006, 12:12 PM
So what is the conclusion?? Any??
let's the admin say the final...

we respect the mod/admin decision and obey it. :D

Dino
04-05-2006, 12:13 PM
So what is the conclusion?? Any??

Would a conclusion of.....if get a single rep rep.....suck it in and take it like a adult or learn from it. If too many red rep in a row....let admin and mods know so we can take a look at it. OK??

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:15 PM
let's the admin say the final...

we respect the mod/admin decision and obey it. :D
maybe if we can summarize and conclude, it would be easier for the admin/mod to make a decision.

BTW, I dun think there is any decisions that need to be make. It is the understanding that we all have and abide by it.

song cm
04-05-2006, 12:16 PM
ok...

like mod/admin said, if you dont have thing to say or dont know about the topic alone, then please refrain to comment on other. other might get offended.

many ppl think their post can help ppl (i think)... but in fact, might hurt or create some spam post around...

nowadays, i will think twice before posting. 1st, post when i know the topic and can contribute it. 2nd, avoid create misunderstanding. 3rd, avoid spamming :D

Honestly...I am sadden by this fact....I feel that the forum should be a fun place and ppl should just chill out and let it all loose here....of course, make sure you don offend anyone in the process....but remember...Have Fun...

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:18 PM
Would a conclusion of.....if get a single rep rep.....suck it in and take it like a adult or learn from it. If too many red rep in a row....let admin and mods know so we can take a look at it. OK??
Absolutely. Check back on the post which got the red and rethink it thru. :)

siewjang
04-05-2006, 12:19 PM
Agreed with noname. Disagree with Song! Having fun must have it's limit. You can't have fun all over the forum. That is not the right way to do.

alfred98
04-05-2006, 12:19 PM
Ok! The conclusion is the same system remain...There is no revealing system...If the person don't want to be identified then just let it be...But at least give some reason for the rep....
What we want to know now is transparency on the points system and what a green rep and red rep give us and at what point the greenies will increased....Ok!!!:cool:

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:23 PM
Ok! The conclusion is the same system remain...There is no revealing system...If the person don't want to be identified then just let it be...But at least give some reason for the rep....
What we want to know now is transparency on the points system and what a green rep and red rep give us and at what point the greenies will increased....Ok!!!:cool:
Alfred, for that please go to the other thread talking about the point system and greenies. :) End of the Road......

song cm
04-05-2006, 12:25 PM
Agreed with noname. Disagree with Song! Having fun must have it's limit. You can't have fun all over the forum. That is not the right way to do.

i say...have fun but make sure don offend ppl....not good enaf isit?? :confused:

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:25 PM
Agreed with noname. Disagree with Song! Having fun must have it's limit. You can't have fun all over the forum. That is not the right way to do.
you dun agree with me meh...!!!:sad-2: :p

celeste_chu
04-05-2006, 12:27 PM
Sokong penuh penuh. Can we put the point system away? How about vouchers for free makan, movies, CD, pirated DVD.....etc. or maybe we can get together to raise some funds for charity?
ya ya...good idea... but where are we gonna find sponsors?
we can get together for a blood donation..on the 11th at PUAY CHAI (SS2)

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:29 PM
i say...have fun but make sure don offend ppl....not good enaf isit?? :confused:
Song, I think what SJ meant is, if one wants to siao and have fun, go to a thread that is NOT SERIOUS and Siao thread and go off topic there. Dun litter good threads with your siaoness...... :)

Alkapocino
04-05-2006, 12:33 PM
My dear fellow forumers:

1. Please stop running to the Admins should you got red votes. They have enough stress already. Majority of them are contemplating to quit and commit suicide (that's what Dino said).

2. Refrain from murmuring in the public when someone red you.

3. When someone red you, repay them by a green.

4. Move on if you do not know who gave you a red repo.

5. Smile and you will be happy. Frown & worry and you will be sad.

6. Take a break, call someone out for teh tarik, especially with a fellow alumnis nearby!

If all thing fails....SHUT DOWN YOUR PC!!! :D

celeste_chu
04-05-2006, 12:36 PM
Honestly...I am sadden by this fact....I feel that the forum should be a fun place and ppl should just chill out and let it all loose here....of course, make sure you don offend anyone in the process....but remember...Have Fun...
i agree with song... when we are in the discussion... we follow the flow...
having too many consideration is like having restrictions all around...
i thought this is where we talk as friends.... of course there should be some sense of respect and i'm sure none of us would really go to the extent of really insulting someone.. not that serious...
that's how i feel here.. not too serious.. so if it's a real serious discussion going on, why not label that "serious"... i saw one topic labelled that way.. so i'll be careful if i do comment...

siewjang
04-05-2006, 12:40 PM
Mods/admin, can we have a poll on:

Does knowing who rep you is important?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Don't bother at all

cucuan
04-05-2006, 12:42 PM
cucuan, I am not talking about ppl who talk crap as all of us even I do that. Who doesn't talk crap in this Forum should not be here at all. they should be in an all saint forum.

What I am referring to is a crap calling the others crap. That is wrong.

I guessed that is why there is a saying.....the pot calling the kettle black. :blink: :unsure:

When one puts in a thread for good fun (it's our gila/siau post) I dont call it crap especially when its meant for us to fool around with. One example of crap post is one who puts in crap opinion which does not stand to any reason or one which is malicious.

cucuan

SS2006
04-05-2006, 12:50 PM
i agree with song... when we are in the discussion... we follow the flow...
having too many consideration is like having restrictions all around...
i thought this is where we talk as friends.... of course there should be some sense of respect and i'm sure none of us would really go to the extent of really insulting someone.. not that serious...
that's how i feel here.. not too serious.. so if it's a real serious discussion going on, why not label that "serious"... i saw one topic labelled that way.. so i'll be careful if i do comment...
Agree with song and celeste...you've both summed it up nicely. Sometimes the flow goes smoothly and it seems right to continue the discussion along that line. Well, sometimes i've already typed up a long reply to previous post, then suddenly remember to check the title...and then just think "aah! bother!" and deleted the whole thing....

celeste_chu
04-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Mods/admin, can we have a poll on:

Does knowing who rep you is important?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Don't bother at all
for me, it's not that important to know who red rep me... but i would like to know why... reason is more important..
if you say i'm wrong, tell me why you think i'm wrong.. then perhaps i'll understand it from your point of view..
otherwise, how would i know what's wrong with me?

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 12:56 PM
for me, it's not that important to know who red rep me... but i would like to know why... reason is more important..
if you say i'm wrong, tell me why you think i'm wrong.. then perhaps i'll understand it from your point of view..
otherwise, how would i know what's wrong with me?
but sometimes, the comments you made may not be so serious enuf for that person the red you. maybe a more private discussion over PM would suffice.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 12:56 PM
Celeste, what you said has been said. thank you! The actual topic here is 'Who '.

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.

song cm
04-05-2006, 12:59 PM
Mods/admin, can we have a poll on:

Does knowing who rep you is important?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Don't bother at all

really, i dunno wat good will this poll do.....remember as daboss says, this is not a standard feature....need to hack one....:(

Celeste, what you said has been said. thank you! The actual topic here is 'Who '.

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.

wat happen if the answer is yes? where do you want to go from there?

celeste_chu
04-05-2006, 01:00 PM
Celeste, what you said has been said. thank you! The actual topic here is 'Who '.

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.
ok... :o excuse me..

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 01:02 PM
The poll is NOT necessary.

If any of you wants to poll, lets do it openly.

I say, "dun bother".

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:02 PM
Song & AndrewH, read this. aiyoh...

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.

song cm
04-05-2006, 01:05 PM
Song & AndrewH, read this. aiyoh...

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.

i am asking wat fun will it do.....really.....wat happen if its a yes?
then wat? surely we can't just ignore it....

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 01:05 PM
Song & AndrewH, read this. aiyoh...

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.
it maybe fun for you and I. Not sure about others. :blink:

Dino
04-05-2006, 01:07 PM
Ok...since nobody is going to draw a conclusion or maybe you didn't understand what i said....

1) If you get one red....take the red like an adult/learn from it.
2) If you get more than one red in a row.....let us admin/mod know, and we'll help you to resolve the situation.

Please don't force the forum to be in a position to change everyone's character because you get one negative vote. Thanks.:)

Alkapocino
04-05-2006, 01:10 PM
Ok...since nobody is going to draw a conclusion or maybe you didn't understand what i said....

1) If you get one red....take the red like an adult/learn from it.
2) If you get more than one red in a row.....let us admin/mod know, and we'll help you to resolve the situation.

Please don't force the forum to be in a position to change everyone's character because you get one negative vote. Thanks.:)
How about getting a red and a green from the same person in a row? :p

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 01:11 PM
thank you, Sir.....

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:11 PM
i am asking wat fun will it do.....really.....wat happen if its a yes?
then wat? surely we can't just ignore it....
Big side track here now!

Admin or mod can start any poll they like without even asking the forummers if we like them. For example Kochun started the Irritating poll. and now it hurts Andrewpan's feeling dem big!

For the fun and curiosity cannot meh? Every/All poll has got no point. What is the point to vote for best song? All are crap!:mad:

SS2006
04-05-2006, 01:12 PM
Agreed with noname. Disagree with Song! Having fun must have it's limit. You can't have fun all over the forum. That is not the right way to do.
Song & AndrewH, read this. aiyoh...

The poll is for fun and curiosity. Not for any action purposes.
SJ, aren't you contradicting yourself here? Please, i'm a bit confused...how to define fun and fun with limit. Who's to set the limit anyway? Your limit may not be my limit. I have high threshold.:D

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 01:13 PM
I already got the poll rolling....are you going to vote or not??

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:14 PM
Fun - is the forum is dem dead now. Who is the one who are supposed to live this forum up? If it's not you then it's me. We are all trying to do a part and contributing something here.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:14 PM
I already got the poll rolling....are you going to vote or not??
Dem pissed now! :mad:

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 01:16 PM
Dem pissed now! :mad:
dun laa.....had your lunch alreadi?? kon loo pan mee izit?? :)
Me haven't had lunch yet.....:sad-2:

song cm
04-05-2006, 01:16 PM
Big side track here now!

Admin or mod can start any poll they like without even asking the forummers if we like them. For example Kochun started the Irritating poll. and now it hurts Andrewpan's feeling dem big!

For the fun and curiosity cannot meh? Every/All poll has got no point. What is the point to vote for best song? All are crap!:mad:

Don get me wrong and pls don be angry....
I am all for fun, as you know but I am very concerned in starting a poll on repo system as this topic have always been very contentious and full of controversy. Admins and Mods have had numerous discussions amongst ourself and we have a lot of headache on this....so, we wld not like to open a can of worms unless we have no choice....

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:18 PM
The topic here is nothing about repo. Just the "Name" is in concern.

SS2006
04-05-2006, 01:20 PM
The topic here is nothing about repo. Just the "Name" is in concern.
It's about Red repo + name.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:22 PM
Does knowing who rep you is important?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Don't bother at all
Did I ever mentioned the word red there?

song cm
04-05-2006, 01:26 PM
come on guys....lets drop the poll thingy...
lets continue our discussion on red repo....

SS2006
04-05-2006, 01:36 PM
come on guys....lets drop the poll thingy...
lets continue our discussion on red repo....
on getting red repo...immediate response will be :huh::blink: , then :mad: , finally :noworry: .
If i feel the i do not deserve the red, my response will be i want to chikek the giver more. So you're pissed off with my remark? I'll say more to piss you further. You'll have to spread 20 times before giving me another red. During that time, i would have forgotten everything but you'll be fuming there if you still want to revenge.
Please take note, i am not targetting this post at anyone, i always assume the anon repper to be a faceless phantom.

noname
04-05-2006, 01:39 PM
aiyoyo... getting out of hand already...

dun worry so much about it now. calm down now ok...

*passing teh si peng* to everyone... *yam seng*

Odysseus
04-05-2006, 01:42 PM
I particularly like Cucuan's comment about maturity in the way we handle things. If we want to give someone a RED, please provide your comment/reasons plus your name so that the person can get back to you to clarify. This is how one should provide comment constructively. it also allows the receiver to learn to receive negative comments.

Same should apply to Green. The receivier may also want to know what you appreciate in their writing.

Should we keep or dispose Reputation System? I would propose that we keep them as something to keep us excited about. More like a KPI on the quality of your contributions in the forum. Vestibule case as an example. BTW, I have managed to turn him green.

Perhaps, we should also start to take Repo more seriously in the way we give out rep points. Place more emphasis on quality.

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:43 PM
Don't worry noname. if thread go out of hand. The first thing mod do is to close them. You never see this before meh?

noname
04-05-2006, 01:48 PM
on getting red repo...immediate response will be :huh::blink: , then :mad: , finally :noworry: .

same like mine. initially i was like this before but now... (dun think so much and spoilt the day)...

now what i doing is, when the person give me -ve repo, so i'll be more careful when posting.

e.g. i make a comment in underground about "cheated vet" stuff... and alfred have come and make noise (sorry if offence you). so as i think over it, what he said is quite true.

now it depend to how "I" react/respond to it alfred's posting. I can give alfred -ve repo but i chose to give him +ve repo...

you see... all is boiled down with our own attitude. if we react it positively, we can overcome the problem and accept it. if we react it negatively, then ... mmmm... *no comment*

Dino
04-05-2006, 01:49 PM
Don't worry noname. if thread go out of hand. The first thing mod do is to close them. You never see this before meh?

Woi!! Snap all the pics for you, especially for you, you still kutuk ah?
Somemore going to drive 100+ miles to Tulip Festival just for you...damn hurt by your remark now ok....:crying:

noname
04-05-2006, 01:50 PM
Don't worry noname. if thread go out of hand. The first thing mod do is to close them. You never see this before meh?
sincerely, havent see it before. mostly is when i open the browser, the topic already locked. :D

so didnt really go in and read thru the whole posting... see where goes wrong :D

song cm
04-05-2006, 01:51 PM
Don't worry noname. if thread go out of hand. The first thing mod do is to close them. You never see this before meh?

are you saying that we should not close it?? :confused:

noname
04-05-2006, 01:52 PM
Woi!! Snap all the pics for you, especially for you, you still kutuk ah?
Somemore going to drive 100+ miles to Tulip Festival just for you...damn hurt by your remark now ok....:crying:
relax relax guys....

*passing ice-cappucino* to Dino & Song....

Dino
04-05-2006, 01:54 PM
relax relax guys....

*passing ice-cappucino* to Dino....

:laugh: :p

siewjang
04-05-2006, 01:58 PM
I'm being such an idoit today.

What is a moderator for? To moderate the thread. You can always come in and say it's getting out of topic.

Noname, you the thread is closed cos they are more efficient and quicker than you.

Dino, sorry.

Voon Chan
04-05-2006, 01:59 PM
You are so kind Leslie. :) . Able to forgive & forget Vestibule case as an example. BTW, I have managed to turn him green.

noname
04-05-2006, 02:01 PM
Noname, you the thread is closed cos they are more efficient and quicker than you.

ahhh... you mean the thread is closed coz they are more efficient and quicker than you? (some typo error, confused)

hehe... i only login when im free. so i didnt follow closely to topic except created by me... :p

Odysseus
04-05-2006, 02:05 PM
You are so kind Leslie. :) . Able to forgive & forget
It was easy. He did not offend me. I don't bother to find what he wrote. I just want to bring a family member back into this forum. Personally, I also know him and his family.

cucuan
04-05-2006, 02:05 PM
same like mine. initially i was like this before but now... (dun think so much and spoilt the day)...

now what i doing is, when the person give me -ve repo, so i'll be more careful when posting.

e.g. i make a comment in underground about "cheated vet" stuff... and alfred have come and make noise (sorry if offence you). so as i think over it, what he said is quite true.

now it depend to how "I" react/respond to it alfred's posting. I can give alfred -ve repo but i chose to give him +ve repo...

you see... all is boiled down with our own attitude. if we react it positively, we can overcome the problem and accept it. if we react it negatively, then ... mmmm... *no comment*

That's what I mean by maturity: "I can give alfred -ve repo, but i chose to give him +ve repo". Whatever is good we should be man enough to admit it's good but whatever wrong we do we should be man enough to say sorry. Sometimes when things are not clear and when we try to spot the good from the bad we say see the forest for the trees.

cucuan

Voon Chan
04-05-2006, 02:07 PM
Leslie, I am touch by your post.
This is the good spirit of a forum member.
Keep it up Leslie, we need forummer like you.:) It was easy. He did not offend me. I don't bother to find what he wrote. I just want to bring a family member back into this forum. Personally, I also know him and his family.

Alkapocino
04-05-2006, 02:09 PM
It was easy. He did not offend me. I don't bother to find what he wrote. I just want to bring a family member back into this forum. Personally, I also know him and his family.
Good intention sir, but vestibule is a history! :(

siewjang
04-05-2006, 02:11 PM
Hari ini dalam sejarah. Vestibule started posting around this date. I can remember well cos I was doing my confinement at that time when he post. Should encourage him in here again.

SS2006
04-05-2006, 02:12 PM
That's what I mean by maturity: "I can give alfred -ve repo, but i chose to give him +ve repo". Whatever is good we should be man enough to admit it's good but whatever wrong we do we should be man enough to say sorry. Sometimes when things are not clear and when we try to spot the good from the bad we say see the forest for the trees.

cucuan
That is so true...and Alfred also another good example. I like the Alfred now so much better than the initial Alfred. There were some clashes then but we are all mature enough to forgive amd forget and start anew our friendship.

alfred98
04-05-2006, 02:15 PM
That is so true...and Alfred also another good example. I like the Alfred now so much better than the initial Alfred. There were some clashes then but we are all mature enough to forgive amd forget and start anew our friendship.
Wah!!!Hung hung!! Kiss kiss!!! Muak!!! wet kiss!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :blink:

SS2006
04-05-2006, 02:17 PM
Wah!!!Hung hung!! Kiss kiss!!! Muak!!! wet kiss!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :blink:
Yikes...when you eavesdropping here? I thot you got patient now. Like this i dem paiseh lorr...:o

Alkapocino
04-05-2006, 02:17 PM
Wah!!!Hung hung!! Kiss kiss!!! Muak!!! wet kiss!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :blink:
Me dem jealous now!!!!!

SS2006
04-05-2006, 02:18 PM
Hari ini dalam sejarah. Vestibule started posting around this date. I can remember well cos I was doing my confinement at that time when he post. Should encourage him in here again.
Hmmm...i'm still in dark over vestibule history. What happened?

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 02:19 PM
Wah!!!Hung hung!! Kiss kiss!!! Muak!!! wet kiss :blink:
make sure you keep your hands at the back of you...!!! :eek: :p

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 02:20 PM
Hmmm...i'm still in dark over vestibule history. What happened?
aiyah...case closed long time ago. No need to bother. Lets move on.

alfred98
04-05-2006, 02:20 PM
Yikes...when you eavesdropping here? I thot you got patient now. Like this i dem paiseh lorr...:o
Baby boy came out at 1332H lor..Settle liao...still sweating lah..need some help here!!!!:laugh:

siewjang
04-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Please get back to topic.

alfred98
04-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Me dem jealous now!!!!!
Then I let U do it lor..we frend frend mah!!!!:laugh:

noname
04-05-2006, 02:25 PM
:D at least now i see more cheerful atmosphere in here now... *phew*

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 02:27 PM
:D at least now i see more cheerful atmosphere in here now... *phew*
proposed to close this discussion. Any seconder??

Voon Chan
04-05-2006, 02:28 PM
I second your proposal!proposed to close this discussion. Any seconder??

Oddfather
04-05-2006, 02:29 PM
Admin/mod, please do the needful. Thanks.

athena
04-05-2006, 02:32 PM
Thread Closed.

LiLiaN
04-05-2006, 04:15 PM
since the discussion was carried out when i couldn't be around, this is my last word...

1. the rep system initially was set up to monitor for offensive postings - what is offensive to some may not be offensive to others, so there is no way an admin/mod be monitoring all reps unless you have been continuously been victimised.

2. while everyone feel strongly about red repping, i am amazed no one said a thing about green repping - abuse is happening more with green repping instead of red repping from what i can observe.

3. leaving name or not leaving name, it should be up to the forummer. i personally have left red rep with name and guess what - i got one in return with red too. so go figure why not that many people would choose to go down that avenue.

4. for something that everyone claimed they're just taking for fun and not seriously, the rep system has actually generated more discussion and debate than anything else in the forum - something i am still trying to find a way to understand.

5. admins/mods are here on a voluntary basis and we have tried to accommodate as much as we can but sometimes there are issues that are sensitive and when we deem it prudent to close the thread, please accept that the decision is final.

6. for out of topic issues, may i remind that at the start of the forum lifespan, it was much stricter and everyone adhere to topics and still there was lots of fun. the fun wanes when threads continuously go out of topic and admins/mods have to intervene.

however, when we do that, we were told that we're too strict and put a damper into the thread. is this fair? out of topic thread can be annoying at times especially when the topic did start out being highly interesting but for someone to have to trawl through a lot of off topic posts to get to posts of importance, then the "mood" to follow that discussion is literally lost. this can be very frustrating.

it is even harder on the admin/mod when monitoring such activities as we have to read just about everything in the forum while forummers can choose to read or not to read. we would appreciate a little understanding on this please.

7. while dino may have joked about us admins/mods being "suicidal" etc on the april fool's joke thread, believe me when i said this job is stressful enough but we are still here, trying our best to help etc. (dino in particular has gone out of his way to get photos for all, start out fun game threads etc.) i am not claiming to be a saint here, but without forummers cooperation, we will be tearing out hairs out!

8. i truly do appreciate the contributions from everyone here in making the forum lively. thank you.

Dino
04-05-2006, 10:27 PM
Happy Forummers = Happy Admin. Thanks for understanding all!!
Siew Jang...if no rain this weekend.....Tulip pics just for you!! :)