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Dino
10-13-2005, 10:58 PM
This is getting bad....... :worried:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/10/13/eu.birdflu/index.html




Turkey bird flu 'is deadly strain'

BRUSSELS, Belgium -- The lethal H5N1 strain of bird flu has been found in Turkish poultry and is likely present in Romania, the European Commission has said.

If confirmed in Romania, it would be the first instance of the deadly strain to reach Europe. H5N1 does not easily infect humans although 117 people, mostly poultry workers, have caught it since 2003 and 60 of them have died.

Scientists are tracking the spread of the virus in birds, which they fear could mutate into a dangerous human pandemic strain. The worries have forced the slaughter of millions of birds, mainly in Asia.

"The virus found in Turkey is avian flu H5N1 high pathogenic virus," the EC's Health and Consumer Protection chief Markos Kyprianou told a news conference in Brussels on Thursday.

Kyprianou said the EU executive did not yet know whether the cases of avian flu discovered in Romania were of the same virulent strain but they were assuming they were, pending final tests.

He recommended "the increase of vaccination among the risk population for the seasonal flu in any event, not at least because this is part of our preparedness plan to deal with the potential or possible pandemic."

Earlier Thursday the EU banned the import of live birds, poultry meat and feathers from Romania after officials there confirmed positive tests.

An emergency meeting of EU veterinary experts was to be held later in the day to try to determine which strain of flu had been found, The Associated Press reported.

Romania's chief veterinarian Ion Agafitei told Reuters that scientists detected the H5N1 virus in samples taken from three ducks found in the Danube delta.

"We eventually isolated the avian flu virus in the samples taken from the three ducks," Agafitei told Reuters by telephone.

"We have so far culled 3,000 poultry and we will continue to do so at a rapid pace," said Mihai Carciumaru, the mayor of Ceamurlia de Jos in the Danube delta, where the three infected ducks were found last week.

"Today, we need to cull 15,000 more birds to contain the disease," he told Reuters. The mayor also said authorities had sealed off the village.

The EU said it planned to extend until next April its ban on imports of live birds and feathers from Turkey, where an outbreak of avian influenza was discovered at the weekend at a farm near the Aegean and Marmara seas.

"All the virological tests carried out to date in Romania have failed to identify the presence of the avian influenza virus. Every day that passes ... reassures us that avian influenza is not in fact present in Romania," EU Commission spokesman Philip Tod told reporters, Reuters reported.

"We hope in light of that report ... to conclude ... that avian influenza is not present in Romania," he added.

Amid fears that the virus might be creeping closer to the European Union's borders, the EU executive announced that Thailand, whose poultry sector has been ravaged by bird flu, had offered its assistance to the EU.

"Thailand has great expertise in this area," European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso told a joint news briefing with visiting Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Bird flu began sweeping through Thai poultry flocks in late 2003, all but wiping out markets for what was then the world's fourth largest poultry exporter.

With pharmaceutical companies under pressure to increase output of drugs to fight any human pandemic, Switzerland's Roche Holding said it was enlisting the help of other specialized firms in producing its Tamiflu antiviral treatment, Reuters reported.

Tamiflu is the most effective antiviral drug available for avian flu. There are fears of a shortage if the virus spreads widely among humans.

Roche said that while it was outsourcing some stages of its production it would not surrender the patents that protect the treatment and it had no plans to farm out the entire production process to other companies, not least because of its complexity.

"We are already collaborating with several specialist companies on the production process for Tamiflu," a spokesman for Roche said. "This has nothing to do with the patent."

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KoChun
10-13-2005, 11:00 PM
This is getting bad....... :worried:
Very bad indeed. What is happening in this world? :(

Hisham
10-13-2005, 11:06 PM
Very bad indeed. What is happening in this world? :(
This might be the onset of a major pandemic. The bubonic plague in the middle ages wiped out 200 million people from western Europe to Eurasia, in the days before quick and easy global travelling.

Worst case scenario, you're looking at at least a third of the world's population killed by a full blown outbreak. No joke.

Odysseus
10-13-2005, 11:07 PM
:( World is getting smaller...... everything travels so fast la :(

Dino
10-13-2005, 11:08 PM
Malaysia got or not? I know Thailand and Indonesia got...but so far, have not heard about Msia and Spore...

Lava Gal
10-13-2005, 11:11 PM
anything bird related, Swan stands great risk :(

anyone noticed the number of shophouses being built/turned into swallow breeding grounds? :sus:

Odysseus
10-13-2005, 11:12 PM
I think this bird flu only refers to ayam and itik only.... Burung is not impacted.. I stand to be corrected.

Hisham
10-13-2005, 11:12 PM
If there IS a pandemic and the virus mutates into an airborne strain, it doesn't matter if there are birds or not. You'll either get it or not, because it's a small world after all.

Dino
10-13-2005, 11:15 PM
anyone noticed the number of shophouses being built/turned into swallow breeding grounds? :sus:

Yah....i heard about that and was thinking why did the authorities let people do that. Truly stupid if you ask me.

Odysseus
10-13-2005, 11:17 PM
Yah....i heard about that and was thinking why did the authorities let people do that. Truly stupid if you ask me.
The right question should be "what motivates the authority to let ppl keep the swallow in shophouses so near to ppl's home"

Dino
10-13-2005, 11:25 PM
The right question should be "what motivates the authority to let ppl keep the swallow in shophouses so near to ppl's home"

Greedy Mofo's.....but still, so many educated people from Sitiawan, how come not a single person did something about such thing.

LiLiaN
10-13-2005, 11:25 PM
bribery wins the race..?

Hisham
10-13-2005, 11:28 PM
bribery wins the race..?
Well, duh... :laugh:

siewjang
10-14-2005, 09:44 AM
Greedy Mofo's.....but still, so many educated people from Sitiawan, how come not a single person did something about such thing.
It's a money making opportunity. The educated ppl are the ones behind it.

crackjet
10-24-2005, 09:25 AM
Guys and girls...

It seems that the bird flu virus issue is evolving. Better equip ourself with knowledge of it. I found this page is informational. Better stock up on Tamiflu too.. :D

http://health.howstuffworks.com/bird-flu.htm/printable

Zazu
10-24-2005, 11:59 AM
Guys and girls...

It seems that the bird flu virus issue is evolving. Better equip ourself with knowledge of it. I found this page is informational. Better stock up on Tamiflu too.. :D

http://health.howstuffworks.com/bird-flu.htm/printable


just talked to the suppliers of Tamiflu..... currently no stock!.

LiLiaN
10-24-2005, 05:21 PM
like anything in this world, the further you delved into it, the more you discover...
now not only romania and turkey has it, UK has parrot with it that died in quarantine...
and there are cases suspected in greece, sweden etc...

Lava Gal
10-24-2005, 06:32 PM
Yah....i heard about that and was thinking why did the authorities let people do that. Truly stupid if you ask me.
the worse thing is there were even gangfights & all coz the owners refused to pay protection money... :eek:
my neighbour's brother owns a building rearing those swallows, and he once kena slash by gangsters!

Lava Gal
10-24-2005, 06:34 PM
like anything in this world, the further you delved into it, the more you discover...
now not only romania and turkey has it, UK has parrot with it that died in quarantine...
and there are cases suspected in greece, sweden etc...
now they have detected human--> human cases too!
prevously it was said only direct exposure.. :eek:

Hisham
10-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Are we all prepared for a full scale pandemic?

Statistically there is a 50% mortality rate for the current bird flu strain. If the virus starts using humans as vectors and it gets airborne, we're looking at 50% deaths to all infected. Which means if I get infected, through another infected person, both my wife and my son will also be infected if quarantine comes late.

Statistically, without a vaccine and best case scenario, either me, my wife or my son WILL die. Worst case scenario is all three of us die. And there's nothing we can do to stop it. Just wait for our lungs to be filled with fluid as our immune system try in vain to kill the virus.

LiLiaN
10-24-2005, 07:40 PM
vaccine development process not easy...
even with common human influenza, the virus changes so quickly...
each strain has roughly lifespan of about 2-3 years...
and from that strain, new strain spawn, and so the cycle continues...

that's why people taking influenza jab have to do it yearly...
but those who don't need it, please don't clamour to get one...
remember last year, shortage of vaccine so people who needed them can't get them!

PreciousPearl
10-25-2005, 03:03 AM
slightly more balanced reporting:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3422839.stm

to put it into perspective, SARS killed loads more people than bird flu.
more people in the world die per minute from smoking-related illnesses.
and also, the taiwanese have started making their own generic copies of tamiflu..................without getting a licence from roche!