Domestic Equality

[Voon Chan]

It is a current issue. Can a man really stay at home & take care of their children and organise the house? They can ne the best chefs in the world . Do they want to cook at home? Do you think asian man can accept it if the wife is doing better in term of earning? What are your view?

[jerrychoo2004]

no problem for me
i can accept one...actually even happier coz the wife got more money and will not ask from u :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

no problem for me
i can accept one...actually even happier coz the wife got more money and will not ask from u :laugh:Good for you.Really? Can you manage a household & everything?

[song cm]

i am more for equality in all areas...ie, both have work and bring back fat checks, both share hse work, both take care of kids....really can't see myself as full time hse husband....if one has to stay home, i wld think the mrs wld be better jus on the premise that they are more natural care giver....

[yee keong]

so, just ask from the wife, complain whole day nothing to do, then take the credit card out for a shopping binge, then come home and complain tired and ask for take-aways. watch TV at home and tell wife that if she loves you, she will employ a maid to take care of the house while i play mahjong whole day while not shopping or having my hair done or having a pedicure or facial.

hmmm...not a bad idea VC, not a bad idea at all.

[athena]

i would say the traditional family model is deeply implanted in most of us....how we were brought up shapes our thinking..

[Voon Chan]

i am more for equality in all areas...ie, both have work and bring back fat checks, both share hse work, both take care of kids....really can't see myself as full time hse husband....if one has to stay home, i wld think the mrs wld be better jus on the premise that they are more natural care giver....In the event your wife pay check is so big & there is a need to give your attention to your children?

[Voon Chan]

so, just ask from the wife, complain whole day nothing to do, then take the credit card out for a shopping binge, then come home and complain tired and ask for take-aways. watch TV at home and tell wife that if she loves you, she will employ a maid to take care of the house while i play mahjong whole day while not shopping or having my hair done or having a pedicure or facial.

hmmm...not a bad idea VC, not a bad idea at all.What about your share or contribution to the family? Taking care of the kids & cooking?

[Voon Chan]

i would say the traditional family model is deeply implanted in most of us....how we were brought up shapes our thinking..So? Can there or will there be a change?

[song cm]

In the event your wife pay check is so big & there is a need to give your attention to your children?

well, if that happens, of course it wld only make sense for me to than help more with hsework and children but i don think i can ever resign from the present work...need to maintain some form of sanity, i guess.....make sense??

[Voon Chan]

well, if that happens, of course it wld only make sense for me to than help more with hsework and children but i don think i can ever resign from the present work...need to maintain some form of sanity, i guess.....make sense??It make sense. We are going on an assumption here for the purpose of discussion.

[yee keong]

VC, take care of the kids and cooking?? what's that?? i dun have time for all those when i'm busy with shopping, mahjong, self grooming sessions and all the gossip time with my other house husbands.

[athena]

So? Can there or will there be a change?
there can be a change...but the change, both partners must be willing to take...it comes back to the one line i read some where...(can't rmbr...always have amnesia la me...) women fight for equality, but then they still expect the men to be gentlemen and open the door for them....so what i'm trying to say here is, if you want equalilty, you've gotta sacrifice something...open that darn door yourself! haha

[athena]

VC, take care of the kids and cooking?? what's that?? i dun have time for all those when i'm busy with shopping, mahjong, self grooming sessions and all the gossip time with my other house husbands.
hey bro, you memang very good ' siew lai lai'! :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

VC, take care of the kids and cooking?? what's that?? i dun have time for all those when i'm busy with shopping, mahjong, self grooming sessions and all the gossip time with my other house husbands.In that case you are not prepared to take up the role as a proper house husband

[Voon Chan]

but then they still expect the men to be gentlemen and open the door for them....so what i'm trying to say here is, if you want equalilty, you've gotta sacrifice something...open that darn door yourself! hahaThis is what I like to read!

[Voon Chan]

hey bro, you memang very good ' siew lai lai'! :laugh:more of "siew yeah chai"

[song cm]

VC, take care of the kids and cooking?? what's that?? i dun have time for all those when i'm busy with shopping, mahjong, self grooming sessions and all the gossip time with my other house husbands.

yk....u r kiddin rite, don tell me you can do all these....and furthermore, don think u hv many hse hub to hang out with...u might hv to hang out with other hse wives.....dat wld be fun.... :laugh:

[athena]

This is what I like to read!
i mean, equality is both ways...not shift it towards your own advantage...there is no such thing in the world...where everything goes your way!

just my 41-sen worth! hahaha

[Voon Chan]

yk....u r kiddin rite, don tell me you can do all these....and furthermore, don think u hv many hse hub to hang out with...u might hv to hang out with other hse wives.....dat wld be fun.... :laugh:Song, you are right. He will be the king among the house wife!

[song cm]

there can be a change...but the change, both partners must be willing to take...it comes back to the one line i read some where...(can't rmbr...always have amnesia la me...) women fight for equality, but then they still expect the men to be gentlemen and open the door for them....so what i'm trying to say here is, if you want equalilty, you've gotta sacrifice something...open that darn door yourself! haha


haha ath...but sayin all these, tell me which women don like to be pampered...guess old habits die hard.... :laugh:

don tell me it don like GL to open the door for u..... :p

[Voon Chan]

i mean, equality is both ways...not shift it towards your own advantage...there is no such thing in the world...where everything goes your way!

just my 41-sen worth! hahahaYes Athena. BTW 41 sen, is very expensivelah!

[song cm]

Song, you are right. He will be the king among the house wife!

haha...if the hse wifes are all dem chun, i wouldn't mind as well.... :D

[Voon Chan]

haha...if the hse wifes are all dem chun, i wouldn't mind as well.... :DYou can get it free & you want to complain. Too much!

[athena]

haha ath...but sayin all these, tell me which women don like to be pampered...guess old habits die hard.... :laugh:

don tell me it don like GL to open the door for u..... :p

i would say that women likes to be pampered....who doesn't ? it's not a gender thing..it's human nature....

GL opening the door for me? i don't really mind whether he opens the door for me or not..infact, if i open the door myself, it's faster..hahah...he opens , he needs to get back to the other side haha..waste time nia!:laugh:

[Voon Chan]

i would say that women likes to be pampered....who doesn't ? it's not a gender thing..it's human nature....

GL opening the door for me? i don't really mind whether he opens the door for me or not..infact, if i open the door myself, it's faster..hahah...he opens , he needs to get back to the other side haha..waste time nia!:laugh:Very practical. My wife is like you in this sense

[athena]

Yes Athena. BTW 41 sen, is very expensivelah!
aiyo...ppl all 2 cents. 2cents=3.8*2=7.6sen...haha..mine mark up a bit nia mah!

[song cm]

i would say that women likes to be pampered....who doesn't ? it's not a gender thing..it's human nature....

GL opening the door for me? i don't really mind whether he opens the door for me or not..infact, if i open the door myself, it's faster..hahah...he opens , he needs to get back to the other side haha..waste time nia!:laugh:

haha...true...but u will surely impressed like hell if he does it, rite?? :D

GL, sorry for dragging u in....

[athena]

haha...true...but u will surely impressed like hell if he does it, rite?? :D

GL, sorry for dragging u in....
haha..funny that you should say that i'll be impressed...just that day, was having this conversation with him, we've pass the impressing each other stage liao...

[Voon Chan]

Song, I do agree with you on increasing prices of everything(except our pay). If one day, we can do it. Would you like that?

[KoChun]

It is a current issue. Can a man really stay at home & take care of their children and organise the house? They can ne the best chefs in the world . Do they want to cook at home? Do you think asian man can accept it if the wife is doing better in term of earning? What are your view?
I can't cook complicated dishes, only the simple ones.

As for wife earning more than me, why not? As long as I think that I am earning well, if my wife earns more than me, then that will be a bonus. Maybe can ask for some pocket money too. Muahahahaha...

[song cm]

haha..funny that you should say that i'll be impressed...just that day, was having this conversation with him, we've pass the impressing each other stage liao...

hmm...movin on to phase 2. been there, done dat.......hey, before u know it, i wld be receiving a red invitation card....(abit presumptious of me to assume dat i am invited...soli...)

[athena]

hmm...movin on to phase 2. been there, done dat.......hey, before u know it, i wld be receiving a red invitation card....(abit presumptious of me to assume dat i am invited...soli...)
*no comments*

haha..when i get married, i would invite you, ok?

[Voon Chan]

I can't cook complicated dishes, only the simple ones.

As for wife earning more than me, why not? As long as I think that I am earning well, if my wife earns more than me, then that will be a bonus. Maybe can ask for some pocket money too. Muahahahaha...Very good! At least you are more open & liberal in respect os this

[song cm]

Song, I do agree with you on increasing prices of everything(except our pay). If one day, we can do it. Would you like that?

well...if i could afford it one day, i wld leave the decision to her...becoz, after all it wld be quite a waste for her jus to throw away her qualification n experiences away...but then again...i don expect myself to be completely off from doin hsehold chores....mayb she wld take more over due to more free time....

haha, funnie dat u mention it becoz she has been hinting to me on this...but i told her...not so soon.... :D

[song cm]

I can't cook complicated dishes, only the simple ones.
As for wife earning more than me, why not? As long as I think that I am earning well, if my wife earns more than me, then that will be a bonus. Maybe can ask for some pocket money too. Muahahahaha...


haha...maggi mee n fried eggs don count..... :p

btw, kochun, can be ever envision urself to be a full time domestic engineer?

[song cm]

*no comments*

haha..when i get married, i would invite you, ok?

thanks...

[Voon Chan]

haha, funnie dat u mention it becoz she has been hinting to me on this...but i told her...not so soon.... :DSo far I know a lawyer & engineer gave up their job to be a full time house wife

[KoChun]

haha...maggi mee n fried eggs don count..... :p
My nasi goreng is best in the world (to me lah, of course). If got chance, one day I goreng for you, Song.

[Voon Chan]

My nasi goreng is best in the world (to me lah, of course). If got chance, one day I goreng for you, Song.Firstly, I would like to order my nasi goreng. Secondly, what else can you do (I am not referring to sex here)& Cook at home?

[song cm]

So far I know a lawyer & engineer gave up their job to be a full time house wife

honestly, i don think she will quit becoz she like her job....mayb she might do it on a part time basis....and the main reason is aso so that she has more time to educate our sons......

[song cm]

My nasi goreng is best in the world (to me lah, of course). If got chance, one day I goreng for you, Song.

tks for the offer...i will surely take up ur offer one day.... :D

[yee keong]

VC, you know what.....not many women is suited for the job of housewife these days too. everyone wants their career, and in times like this, both partners are needed to work to support the ever escalating needs and wants. in that respect, i agree that everyone needs to do their part for the household, to keep it moving.

but i have to say, guys should help out in the chores, but the wife should mainly take care of the children, no matter what. cooking, well, if the husband can do it, good, but the wife must be able to do it. i guess i'm still old fashion and all that, but i think i will help out when i see the wife is overworked. heck, at most, just employ a weekend maid to clean up the house. other days are not too bad, since it's mainly laundry and cooking.

i still believe in the old fashion wife stay home and husband work kind of arrangements, but i'm open to changes. still, the public view on all these house husband thingy is generally bad, and though you may think otherwise, a lot of people will gossip, and it'll add extensive pressure on both parties.

[Voon Chan]

YK, it is true. You have raise some valid points here. Our society is very old fashion in many way.

Let me tell you this. 2 years ago, I was on 2 months leave. I do what I want. In & out of the house. Visit places. People like friends & relatives commented "You don't have a job ah? Living on your wife Ah? How are you going to survive?". My answer to them was" I am jobless. Very difficult to get a job. I like to live on my wife earning. Very relax. No stress. BTw, I need to borrow a few thousand from you and I need it now". I scared the shit out of them when I mentioned money

[yee keong]

it's this generalisation that made the world think that's it the man's job to do this and that, and the women's role in the family.

however, lately, feminism, girl power has been on the rise, and metrosexual men are the IN thing now. i wonder, have you guys watch an episode of South Park where they say about the TV show, 'Queer Eyes for the Straight Guy'? it's poking fun about how the whole world in turning into gay fag due to being metrosexual and stuff. guys are not into sweating and working out and getting tough anymore. they are just interested in making themselves looking beautiful, hence my first post about house husbands doing all the things that siu lai lai does. it's meant to be sarcastic!

[Voon Chan]

Thank you for your contribution. At least I have something good to read here. Feminism is on the rise every where. The wind of change is here. Look at Japan, Hong Kong, Korea, Taiwan & the west. They are moving so fast

[yee keong]

i'm all for good old fashion chauvinism. guys get their fun, women get treated like queens

[Voon Chan]

i'm all for good old fashion chauvinism. guys get their fun, women get treated like queensI accordance to what you have mentioned both man & woman will have fun!

[euj]

hard to tell whether i could cope with staying at home and looking after the kids. i like going to work. but that would be the same for the woman too. in principle, i'm happy to stay home and look after the kids, and also comfortable with my partner earning more than me, as long as she doesn't look down on me because of that and she's comfortable with earning more. whoever stays home would probably want to have some part time work after the first year and then probably more of a full time time work once the kids start going to school...

[daBoss]

i don't think i can stay at home and take care of the kids - i'll go nuts!!!

[Voon Chan]

Not easy to be a house husband. I have tried it for 2 months. I know it very well. I managed to cope. Some part time job is a great idea

[daBoss]

girls are a funny lot... they think they want a husband who is willing to be equal and is necessary stay at home to take care of the house and kids while they work. however, i bet you if the husband actually does that, after a couple of years, they start to show long face...

[Voon Chan]

girls are a funny lot... they think they want a husband who is willing to be equal and is necessary stay at home to take care of the house and kids while they work. however, i bet you if the husband actually does that, after a couple of years, they start to show long face...it is not an easy task my friend. Sure you will see long faces. It is a 24X7 job.

[daBoss]

you misunderstand me... i say if the husband stay at home for a few years, the wife start to show long face...

[Voon Chan]

you misunderstand me... i say if the husband stay at home for a few years, the wife start to show long face...sorry! I can agree on that too. They (women) are not easy to please

[athena]

sorry! I can agree on that too. They (women) are not easy to please
huh?n hubby stays at home, wifey shows long face? dont' understand

[Chris C]

huh?n hubby stays at home, wifey shows long face? dont' understand
:huh: Mee too! If my hubby is willing to do this, I'll love him to pieces.

[Robin Kok CH]

:huh: Mee too! If my hubby is willing to do this, I'll love him to pieces.

Meaning? You'll chop him up into pieces?

[Voon Chan]

huh?n hubby stays at home, wifey shows long face? dont' understandLater wife will complainlah. "I work so much, you stay at home, you spend so much of the money I earn & etc"

[athena]

:huh: Mee too! If my hubby is willing to do this, I'll love him to pieces.
guys , care explaining to us , ladies? ok la...lady..only chris is ....i'm not.. :D

[song cm]

i don't think i can stay at home and take care of the kids - i'll go nuts!!!
true...as i said, women are better care givers...we will jus scream at the kids... :(

[song cm]

sorry! I can agree on that too. They (women) are not easy to please

haha...not like men...all we need is food and s**....hahahaha :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

haha...not like men...all we need is food and s**....hahahaha :laugh:I need more than that

[song cm]

I need more than that

okok...and tlc.... :D

[Chris C]

Meaning? You'll chop him up into pieces?

Vely funni. Meaning I'll love every inch of him, even his Hong Kong smelly feet! :laugh: Most of U jantans are still vely cavey lah. U think woman are hard to please. :p

[Voon Chan]

Vely funni. Meaning I'll love every inch of him, even his Hong Kong smelly feet! :laugh: Most of U jantans are still vely cavey lah. U think woman are hard to please. :pNot that we think. It is a fact.

[athena]

Not that we think. It is a fact.
hahah...ok la women are hard to please = fact
men are harder to please =fact !!
ok? :D

[Chris C]

Later wife will complainlah. "I work so much, you stay at home, you spend so much of the money I earn & etc"

If U spend it wisely and on the necessary things that is needed, I don't think your wife will complain, unless you're trying to outdo KC and Song to have a bigger collection of Hustler. :p

[Voon Chan]

hahah...ok la women are hard to please = fact
men are harder to please =fact !!
ok? :DIn the quran it was stated that men, they have only one temptation that is women & sex. But women, they will have countless.

Women are harder to please

[song cm]

If U spend it wisely and on the necessary things that is needed, I don't think your wife will complain, unless you're trying to outdo KC and Song to have a bigger collection of Hustler. :p

haha...nowadays...cheaper to get Hustler online.... :p

[Chris C]

hahah...ok la women are hard to please = fact
men are harder to please =fact !!
ok? :D
Now you're talking girl! Well guys?

[Voon Chan]

If U spend it wisely and on the necessary things that is needed, I don't think your wife will complain, unless you're trying to outdo KC and Song to have a bigger collection of Hustler. :pIn fact I do not have any of that as my collection

[song cm]

hahah...ok la women are hard to please = fact
men are harder to please =fact !!
ok? :D

honestly...men are simple animals....as i said, we need food, s** and tlc......

[athena]

honestly...men are simple animals....as i said, we need food, s** and tlc......
no...there is also ego...

[Chris C]

honestly...men are simple animals....as i said, we need food, s** and tlc......
Finally U're admitting that U guys are animals? :p

[Voon Chan]

no...there is also ego...women today also got very big ego

[euj]

i like to see more as men as simple creatures. doesn't make us inferior, just different... :)

[song cm]

Finally U're admitting that U guys are animals? :p

actually i wanted to change to creature...too late.....

[Voon Chan]

Finally U're admitting that U guys are animals? :pIf men are animal, women are also animal

[athena]

If men are animal, women are also animal
haha..yea lor...we sama sama!! hahahaha

[Voon Chan]

haha..yea lor...we sama sama!! hahahahaThank Ath,

[Chris C]

If men are animal, women are also animal
:huh: But I didn't admit it. I'm a HUMAN BEING! :p

[euj]

If men are animal, women are also animal
i'll admit that men are more 'animalistic' than women...

[athena]

Thank Ath,
different species cannot breed mah...and if can breed also sterile..so no more descendants....theory according to dream@rockstar!! :laugh:

[Chris C]

women today also got very big ego
Know where we learn this from? :rolleyes:

[Chris C]

i'll admit that men are more 'animalistic' than women...
Sayang sama lu for saying this. At least one jantan is brave enuff to admit it. ;)

[song cm]

okok...this is becoming like men vs women thread..... :(

[Voon Chan]

Know where we learn this from? :rolleyes:I think so

[Chris C]

okok...this is becoming like men vs women thread..... :(
Not vs lah, just friendly dis. No throwing slippers. :laugh:

[euj]

what's wrong with men v women? good fun what! :)

[Chris C]

I think so

Aha............ :cool:

[song cm]

what's wrong with men v women? good fun what! :)

nothin wrong...but if want, do create new thread....as it tend to get out of hand....

[Chris C]

Oooi, what happen? Jantans all pucat oledi ah? :p

[song cm]

Oooi, what happen? Jantans all pucat oledi ah? :p
chrisc, u shld start a new thread...wrong thread lar :p

[Chris C]

chrisc, u shld start a new thread...wrong thread lar :p

But isn't this thread about equality? Then can also argue equally also mah.... :laugh:

[song cm]

But isn't this thread about equality? Then can also argue equally also mah.... :laugh:

good point...ok..let the battle begin.... :D

[yee keong]

cool, always wanted to debate on equality.

i support women with their bra burning. liberated the women, and most men too.....yay!

[song cm]

ChrisC.....any comments?

[Lava Gal]

there can be a change...but the change, both partners must be willing to take...it comes back to the one line i read some where...(can't rmbr...always have amnesia la me...) women fight for equality, but then they still expect the men to be gentlemen and open the door for them....so what i'm trying to say here is, if you want equalilty, you've gotta sacrifice something...open that darn door yourself! haha


totally agreee, ath...haha

as for me, I do believe in equality...and wont usually expect doors to be opened, in fact wudnt even mind holding open a door 4 a guy

but glad to say that there r many gentleman still around, who'd be caring enuff 2 hold d door & let u go 1st, and not let it slam on ur face.. :laugh:

[song cm]

totally agreee, ath...haha

as for me, I do believe in equality...and wont usually expect doors to be opened, in fact wudnt even mind holding open a door 4 a guy

but glad to say that there r many gentleman still around, who'd be caring enuff 2 hold d door & let u go 1st, and not let it slam on ur face.. :laugh:
haha....dats wat i said all along....whatever women say....bottom line is dat they still loved to be pampered, rite..... :D

[Lava Gal]

honestly...men are simple animals....as i said, we need food, s** and tlc......

wat is TLC??? :wacko:

[Lava Gal]

Know where we learn this from? :rolleyes:


woman 2de got big ego too...agree on d fact; mebe wif all d talks about equality...they feel they have equal rights 2 be egoistic too...

learn 4m wer ar?? curious a lil' dee

[song cm]

wat is TLC??? :wacko:

tender loving care....:)

[Lava Gal]

haha....dats wat i said all along....whatever women say....bottom line is dat they still loved to be pampered, rite..... :D


hey...even men love to be pampered what! juz that they dun show it...

so, sama-sama je lar :p

[Lava Gal]

tender loving care....:)

hah...so i am rite after all...they too want the tlc touches & words... :D

[song cm]

hey...even men love to be pampered what! juz that they dun show it...

so, sama-sama je lar :p

true indeed...jus dat men can leave without it better than women...right? ;)

[song cm]

lavanya...i c dat u r stayin in seremban...i was there for a year...in a college called MCHE near the lake district...i understand dat there is a hotel there now...i sure miss the video arcade in Punca Emas.... :D

[Lava Gal]

yea..there'z a hotel near the lake...now, now cant recall the name dee...damn!

not aware there's a college there thou...

punca emas...dah lapuk lar...now got Seremban Parade & Terminal1 Shoppping complexes... even tat my KL frenz complain isnt happening! haha...yea lar...no Mid Valley or clubbing hub like bangsar here wat...so they have 2 run back home often!

[Lava Gal]

true indeed...jus dat men can leave without it better than women...right? ;)

i dun completely agree, coz if u look around, the number of single women, or those who stay single for a longer time are on the rise :h: maybe tis shows they can hold on their own too, without a man.

anyway, no1 is a complete human being on their own...life is all about a "symbiotic" existence! Tha yin- & the yang- should coexist to strike a balance. I rest my case!!

[Voon Chan]

i dun completely agree, coz if u look around, the number of single women, or those who stay single for a longer time are on the rise :h: maybe tis shows they can hold on their own too, without a man.
Look at them again. They are moody people. Caution: Do not go near them; because they are like a walking time bomb

[Lava Gal]

Look at them again. They are moody people. Caution: Do not go near them; because they are like a walking time bomb

hhmmm...yea seen some myself...like army commander nia..scary. got 1 doctor here oso like tat, single and garang :mad: ...dato sumore, royal blood...but single...have often wondered if her deprivation leads to her BAD, BAD TEMPER

[Voon Chan]

Great! At least you understand

[LiLiaN]

Look at them again. They are moody people. Caution: Do not go near them; because they are like a walking time bombare you saying i'm emotionally volatile..?? :( :sad-2: :crying:

[Lava Gal]

Lilian...dun cry honey! u r still young mar....those "time-bombs" we were discussing about are not so young ppl...like my lecturer, she's middle aged, most probably menopause dee

but though i muz admit that generally, girls are more emotionally volatile...however strong & independent we choose to be. guys are oso lar...but they cover-up nicely :p

hhhmmm..reminds me of a Q i'v had in mind 4 some time...is loneliness a price to pay for independence??

[shiruikage]

but though i muz admit that generally, girls are more emotionally volatile...however strong & independent we choose to be. guys are oso lar...but they cover-up nicely :p

hhhmmm..reminds me of a Q i'v had in mind 4 some time...is loneliness a price to pay for independence??

it is a proven fact that women are more emotional than men. it is a heritage from nature. haha, some even says they are emotional mostly becoz of the hormonal inbalance due to the risk and effects of pregnancies. i tell you, reading that cracks me up coz i don't understand half the stuffs they're discussing.

and the quote ur talking about...well, actually, it is true for most people, and not true for the others. it's equivalent to the saying " it is lonely at the top".

[Chris C]

ChrisC.....any comments?

Hah? where were we again? Bras burning, lake in S'ban and also 'hotel',( Song, any interesting thing happened there?) :p ,emotions, loneliness........
I'm confused............. :confused: :laugh:

[yee keong]

this is what i have observed, and i can see it with some of the people i deal with.

single women without an active sex life tend to be grumpy old hags once they reach above 35.

anyone observed this trait??

[LiLiaN]

dunno about that really... single females that i work with or those that i know are all kinda around my age... a long way to go before i'd get to verify that... :p

but sometimes, yeah, i do believe it's lonely to be at the top... can raise lots of insecurities as well... just read the secrets of jin-shei (http://www.ifantabulous.com/index.php?p=59) recently... very much reflecting how life is for women in a pretty feminist sort of society, despite the setting in an ancient kingdom...

[euj]

yeah, i wouldn't generalise and say that women who are single in their 30s are grumpy and all that...

[euj]

my secretary is 34 and gorgeous and single and loving it...

[LiLiaN]

euj thinks women in 30's are hot, right? :laugh:

[euj]

i do actually. i think women get more and more attractive as time goes by. i was at a queue going into a nightclub last night and these girls were talking to us. they were about 20 and i couldn't help but think they'll be so much more attractive in about 10 years time. it's not a looks issue, it's more what's going on in their head. women and men too, i guess, are so much more attractive as time goes by cos there's more to talk about, they are more interesting and they are comfortable with themselves. in a nutshell - less bullshit...

[daBoss]

this is what i have observed, and i can see it with some of the people i deal with.

single women without an active sex life tend to be grumpy old hags once they reach above 35.

anyone observed this trait??
and how would you know, sir?

[daBoss]

i do actually. i think women get more and more attractive as time goes by. i was at a queue going into a nightclub last night and these girls were talking to us. they were about 20 and i couldn't help but think they'll be so much more attractive in about 10 years time. it's not a looks issue, it's more what's going on in their head. women and men too, i guess, are so much more attractive as time goes by cos there's more to talk about, they are more interesting and they are comfortable with themselves. in a nutshell - less bullshit...
hmm.. going with the logic would make the women in their 50-60's even more attractive? not!!! :amused:

[euj]

hmm.. going with the logic would make the women in their 50-60's even more attractive? not!!! :amused:
well, don't know yet. i'll tell you in 20 years time...

[Voon Chan]

are you saying i'm emotionally volatile..?? :( :sad-2: :crying:yes! Lilian

[Chris C]

this is what i have observed, and i can see it with some of the people i deal with.

single women without an active sex life tend to be grumpy old hags once they reach above 35.

anyone observed this trait??

U poor thing! Surrounded by grumpy old hags. Get euj to intro some hot babes to U. :D

[Chris C]

are you saying i'm emotionally volatile..?? :( :sad-2: :crying:
Don't woli Lil, you're not far from being a hot babe! ;)

[euj]

U poor thing! Surrounded by grumpy old hags. Get euj to intro some hot babes to U. :D
they're out there, i tell you. just gotta make the effort.