Devil Advocate's Dream Girl

[Voon Chan]

I am a married man with a 2 years old son. One morning, I got a call from a girl. She is my dream girl. In 1997, I was so interested in her. She is a girl I will do anything to have her.

After so many years, she came to me & tell me this "after so many year I finally realised that you are the man for me. I really regret my action. I want you as my husband now. (knowing that I am married)".

I was very happy that moment because my dream girl said that to me. I just collect myself together and tell her "I am happily married with a son. If you have told me this in 1997 you are my wife at this moment. It is too late. I am sorry, I can't accept your propsal. Hope you will find another man in your life".

She was so dissappointed with me. I was not dissappointed with myself as I think I made the right move. I love my family very much.

Please share your view with me.

[athena]

I am a married man with a 2 years old son. One morning, I got a call from a girl. She is my dream girl. In 1997, I was so interested in her. She is a girl I will do anything to have her.

After so many years, she came to me & tell me this "after so many year I finally realised that you are the man for me. I really regret my action. I want you as my husband now. (knowing that I am married)".

I was very happy that moment because my dream girl said that to me. I just collect myself together and tell her "I am happily married with a son. If you have told me this in 1997 you are my wife at this moment. It is too late. I am sorry, I can't accept your propsal. Hope you will find another man in your life".

She was so dissappointed with me. I was not dissappointed with myself as I think I made the right move. I love my family very much.

Please share your view with me.
IMHO, the girl is going for something that she can never get...other ppl's things (in this case, husband) is always better than yours.....bump her off and ask her to live with it!!!

[Voon Chan]

bump her off and ask her to live with it!!!Done that!

[athena]

Done that!
good for you!!!!

[Voon Chan]

good for you!!!!The moment she told me that. I told her off already

[euj]

so, why was she your dream girl?

[Voon Chan]

so, why was she your dream girl?Her beauty, talent, caring at one stage, treated me so well. I was really moved by all her action

[euj]

Her beauty, talent, caring at one stage, treated me so well. I was really moved by all her action
i think most of us have had someone like that at one stage or another, but i guess we move on over time...

[Voon Chan]

i think most of us have had someone like that at one stage or another, but i guess we move on over time...Yes! But she gave me such an impact. Yes! I move on. I am ver happy with what I have at the moment

[WitchKing]

i think most of us have had someone like that at one stage or another, but i guess we move on over time...

yeah. move it, or lose it.

[natalie]

VC, I think you have made the right move. I salute you. I simply think that you should share this with your wife, in case this lady might come back and try something else.
Being a lady, I totally understand why she is doing this. I believe telling you how she felt could get things off her chest but, to ask you to consider getting back with her simply too selfish. Honestly, I don't think she loves you, like what ath has said, she just wanted to get something she did not get.

[Voon Chan]

yeah. move it, or lose it.move on, I must agree with you & euj on this

[Voon Chan]

VC, I think you have made the right move. I salute you. I simply think that you should share this with your wife, in case this lady might come back and try something else.
Being a lady, I totally understand why she is doing this. I believe telling you how she felt could get things off her chest but, to ask you to consider getting back with her simply too selfish. Honestly, I don't think she loves you, like what ath has said, she just wanted to get something she did not get.Is that always the case, that the just come back to get what they want? I really don't know.

Anyway, she is staying in another state & not bothering me at the moment

[WitchKing]

Honestly, I don't think she loves you, like what ath has said, she just wanted to get something she did not get.

and what exactly might that be?

[Voon Chan]

and what exactly might that be?It really get me thinking too? Nat & Athena please answer.

[euj]

and what exactly might that be?
him...

[Voon Chan]

him...any thing else ?

[euj]

any thing else ?
more of you?

[natalie]

Is that always the case, that the just come back to get what they want? I really don't know.

Anyway, she is staying in another state & not bothering me at the moment

It's alwayz better to be honest with you wife first before anything else. Even if she is another state...you never know what the person will try when they are desperate....

[Voon Chan]

more of you?okay! How do you view this woman in term of personalities & character?

[euj]

okay! How do you view this woman in term of personalities & character?
maybe she realises that all those things she wanted when she was younger were the wrong things and now she knows what right for her.
either that, or she could be a mean person and she's playing with you...

[Voon Chan]

It's alwayz better to be honest with you wife first before anything else. Even if she is another state...you never know what the person will try when they are desperate....Yes! I told my wife about her. She just said "okay, as long you know what you are doing, I am fine, Thank for telling. I love you"

[Voon Chan]

maybe she realises that all those things she wanted when she was younger were the wrong things and now she knows what right for her.
either that, or she could be a mean person and she's playing with you...Euj, we don't know the truth. Anyway, it does not matter now. Only truth is what I have now

[euj]

Yes! I told my wife about her. She just said "okay, as long you know what you are doing, I am fine, Thank for telling. I love you"
good on you!

[Sila]

tabik, vc! i think the girl is just too late lah - kacau married man some more.. ish ish ish...

[natalie]

Usually, a lady would date someone they prefer at a point of time when they have many options around them. Err...then they would probably go steady with someone they like most.....without considering the options who are sincere and caring. When they soon realise their choice is not so into them, they turn around and start analyzing the one they want....

[Voon Chan]

Usually, a lady would date someone they prefer at a point of time when they have many options around them. Err...then they would probably go steady with someone they like most.....without considering the options who are sincere and caring. When they soon realise their choice is not so into them, they turn around and start analyzing the one they want....are saying that the put on the "emotion mode" 1st? Just do what they feel like & then think. That is very dangerous

[Voon Chan]

tabik, vc! i think the girl is just too late lah - kacau married man some more.. ish ish ish...way, way too late. the point of no return

[Dino]

Hahahahaha....so its true then. When u are single, women don't even want to look at you, but when u are married, they come to you and hope they will get you. So guys, the trick is to wear a wedding a ring and pretend that you are married...then u will get the chicks. I am heading to get me a wedding ring now!! :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

Hahahahaha....so its true then. When u are single, women don't even want to look at you, but when u are married, they come to you and hope they will get you. So guys, the trick is to wear a wedding a ring and pretend that you are married...then u will get the chicks. I am heading to get me a wedding ring now!! :laugh:Married or not I still can attract women:D .

Dino, just becareful, you may not get any women:laugh: . Not all girls like married man

[WitchKing]

Hahahahaha....so its true then. When u are single, women don't even want to look at you, but when u are married, they come to you and hope they will get you. So guys, the trick is to wear a wedding a ring and pretend that you are married...then u will get the chicks. I am heading to get me a wedding ring now!! :laugh:

Go, Dino, GO!!!

[natalie]

People will change when they went thru a relationship trauma. They either became better or worse, depending on how they could handle their own emotion and how much have they put in for a relationship.
VC, I don't know her and I don't know how much she has been thru to come to the stage of harassing you now. Probably you would contact another friend that know her to check her out, making sure she is alright but definitely you should not be involve with her directly......

[natalie]

Go, Dino, GO!!!

I don't think Sammi Cheng prefer a married man..... :p

[Voon Chan]

Nat, thank for the idea. I may try

[WitchKing]

Usually, a lady would date someone they prefer at a point of time when they have many options around them. Err...then they would probably go steady with someone they like most.....without considering the options who are sincere and caring. When they soon realise their choice is not so into them, they turn around and start analyzing the one they want....


Wow, Nat. Insights into the inner minds of women. You dont get THAT even in the school of LIFE. Thank You. It is dissapointing to know that such mode of analysis exists.....i guess its a primal thing that you cant do nothing about.

TOUGH.

[Voon Chan]

Go, Dino, GO!!!Buat baik berpada-pada, buat jahat sekali sekala

[natalie]

Nat, thank for the idea. I may try
You are welcome. It's my pleasure to help....... :)

[Voon Chan]

Wow, Nat. Insights into the inner minds of women. You dont get THAT even in the school of LIFE. Thank You. It is dissapointing to know that such mode of analysis exists.....i guess its a primal thing that you cant do nothing about.

TOUGH.What an insight in to women's mind

[Dino]

I think because married men are more secure, thats why they are highly sought after!!

[WitchKing]

People will change when they went thru a relationship trauma. They either became better or worse, depending on how they could handle their own emotion and how much have they put in for a relationship.
VC, I don't know her and I don't know how much she has been thru to come to the stage of harassing you now. Probably you would contact another friend that know her to check her out, making sure she is alright but definitely you should not be involve with her directly......

unless you like playing with fire and the consequences of getting more than just singed. (crash and burn, baby. CRASH, AND BURN)

[Voon Chan]

I think because married men are more secure, thats why they are highly sought after!!Why are they more secure?

[Voon Chan]

unless you like playing with fire and the consequences of getting more than just singed. (crash and burn, baby. CRASH, AND BURN)you make it look like a car accident & it ended with fire:laugh:

[natalie]

Wow, Nat. Insights into the inner minds of women. You dont get THAT even in the school of LIFE. Thank You. It is dissapointing to know that such mode of analysis exists.....i guess its a primal thing that you cant do nothing about.

TOUGH.

I like to read and observe other people and myself. Of course, reading more books will help us figure out things like these. Sometimes, I felt that this became problem to me too......

[Sila]

my policy is - even if the guy has a girlfriend, he's off limits. if married, definitely waaaaaay off limit. dishonorable lah kacauing ppl and causing trouble..

i only (used to) date guys if got no impediments of any sort. now only date vin lah.. ;)

[Dino]

Why are they more secure?

I think because the guy has prooven that he dare to commit in a LTR, i think thats what most girls want anyway.

[Voon Chan]

I like to read and observe other people and myself. Of course, reading more books will help us figure out things like these. Sometimes, I felt that this became problem to me too......what problem?

[Voon Chan]

I think because the guy has prooven that he dare to commit in a LTR, i think thats what most girls want anyway.if a guy can just leave his wife for another girl, he can do the same to that girl. So what security are they talking about here

[Sila]

if a guy can just leave his wife for another girl, he can do the same to that girl. So what security are they talking about here
i agree vc.. tit for tat, right?

[WitchKing]

you make it look like a car accident & it ended with fire:laugh:

well, it will be just like that if you go for such a thing....

[Voon Chan]

i agree vc.. tit for tat, right?
Sila A & B a married couple. A decided to be with C. A can later say goodbye to C and go for D.

[WitchKing]

I think because the guy has prooven that he dare to commit in a LTR, i think thats what most girls want anyway.

izzat right. somehow I dont think so..

[Dino]

if a guy can just leave his wife for another girl, he can do the same to that girl. So what security are they talking about here

Well, its probably the feeling of "You don't know what you got, till its gone".

[Dino]

izzat right. somehow I dont think so..

Is that not always the case, the women always want to go further in a relationship?

[Voon Chan]

Well, its probably the feeling of "You don't know what you got, till its gone".I think so

[WitchKing]

Sila A & B a married couple. A decided to be with C. A can later say goodbye to C and go for D.

or.. A can keep B, go for C, then chase after D, with an option to pursue a potential E! :confused:

[Voon Chan]

or.. A can keep B, go for C, then chase after D, with an option to pursue a potential E! :confused:Option is always there. It is all up to A to exercise the option

[Sila]

or.. A can keep B, go for C, then chase after D, with an option to pursue a potential E! :confused:
ya lah - dunno why the first "younger model" thinks the hubby won't go for the next "younger model" what... kereta pun tukar berkali-kali, mana tak bini? :D

[WitchKing]

Is that not always the case, the women always want to go further in a relationship?

The current reality is there is a new kind of 'women' and a more committed kind of 'men' which would put that kind of statement in a good debating position.

[Voon Chan]

The current reality is there is a new kind of 'women' and a more committed kind of 'men' which would put that kind of statement in a good debating position.Nazlan, please define

[natalie]

I have to say Dino is not quite right about the security thingy..... Women who go for married man for few reasons but not quite a security reason, they could be looking for:
1. Companion
2. Safe sex
3. Soul mate
4. No commitment
5. Confidence
6. Fatherly love
and more other reasons.............

[Dino]

The current reality is there is a new kind of 'women' and a more committed kind of 'men' which would put that kind of statement in a good debating position.

Hhahahaaha....that kinda debate question i don't want to participate. Can go on for years!! :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

I have to say Dino is not quite right about the security thingy..... Women who go for married man for few reasons but not quite a security reason, they could be looking for:
6. Fatherly love
.Cannot understand this.

[Dino]

I have to say Dino is not quite right about the security thingy..... Women who go for married man for few reasons but not quite a security reason, they could be looking for:
1. Companion
2. Safe sex
3. Soul mate
4. No commitment
5. Confidence
6. Fatherly love
and more other reasons.............

That all comes with security!!! :laugh:

[WitchKing]

ya lah - dunno why the first "younger model" thinks the hubby won't go for the next "younger model" what... kereta pun tukar berkali-kali, mana tak bini? :D

i think it would still very much depend on the kind of men you dealing with. that I think is aso very much hit or miss for the womenfolk. so da women do what the men do b4 marriage, while the men do it AFTER marriage. ie change 'models'

<dunno if dat is a fair statement but am exercising my right to free speech>

[Voon Chan]

i think it would still very much depend on the kind of men you dealing with. that I think is aso very much hit or miss for the womenfolk. so da women do what the men do b4 marriage, while the men do it AFTER marriage. ie change 'models'

<dunno if dat is a fair statement but am exercising my right to free speech>What are try to express here

[WitchKing]

Nazlan, please define

less 'tradition', more 'contemporary'. 'exercising options'. 'pick and choose'. 'try first before buying' need i go on?

In the end, IT IS STILL A PRIMAL THING.

[Voon Chan]

less 'tradition', more 'contemporary'. 'exercising options'. 'pick and choose'. 'try first before buying' need i go on?

In the end, IT IS STILL A PRIMAL THING.point noted, Thank you

[natalie]

Cannot understand this.
They need someone they could manja with a father.....
Some people have missed this love since they were young, sometime, they don't realise it..........

[WitchKing]

What are try to express here

That the pick and choosing is practised by both genders. One involves heartbreaking the men, the other one involves heartbreaking the women. the time frame is the only difference, that's all.

[Voon Chan]

They need someone they could manja with a father.....
Some people have missed this love since they were young, sometime, they don't realise it..........love & life is so complicated

[Voon Chan]

That the pick and choosing is practised by both genders. One involves heartbreaking the men, the other one involves heartbreaking the women. the time frame is the only difference, that's all.don't know why this is happening

[natalie]

what problem?
I see things too clearly.....I am afraid to get into relationship for the past four years since my last relationship. Have been chicken out many times....

[WitchKing]

love & life is so complicated

It wouldn't be called LIVING if it wasnt. :noworry:

[Sila]

so many generalizations lah - how many men, unlike vc, would have succumbed ("just once"). and how many women would not have gone back and told the married guy (boat left the dock la, girl...) about her feelings when their relationship is long time over?

i get asked out at client sites sometimes, and by men who know i'm engaged - they will say things like what kind of guy is vin to "let" me travel for work and be alone. these are the guys that i completely lose respect for - because you know they just want to go out with me because they think i'm lonely and far from home and therefore "easy prey". i always reply that nobody 'lets' me do anything because i choose what i do, and secondly, vin is the kind of guy who is confident and secure in our relationship.

conversely, i have heard guys on the plane on the way to las vegas, debating whether or not they should take their wedding rings off so they can "have a good time"... makes me sick to hear this.. :(

[Voon Chan]

I see things too clearly.....I am afraid to get into relationship for the past four years since my last relationship. Have been chicken out many times....life is like a gamble. There is no certainties in life. There is only one thing that is certain that is we will all die one day

[natalie]

love & life is so complicated
Yes, it is. That is why the more simple your mind is, the happier you are. The blurer, the happier. :p

[WitchKing]

I see things too clearly.....I am afraid to get into relationship for the past four years since my last relationship. Have been chicken out many times....

...arent you worried that you might let a good thing pass you by? was the last relationship THAT traumatic 4u.?

[Voon Chan]

i get asked out at client sites sometimes, and by men who know i'm engaged - they will say things like what kind of guy is vin to "let" me travel for work and be alone. these are the guys that i completely lose respect for - because you know they just want to go out with me because they think i'm lonely and far from home and therefore "easy prey". i always reply that nobody 'lets' me do anything because i choose what i do, and secondly, vin is the kind of guy who is confident and secure in our relationship.I give my wife space & room. She can fly to Europe for 3 months & etc. She trust me enough to say that I would not be involved with another

[natalie]

so many generalizations lah - how many men, unlike vc, would have succumbed ("just once"). and how many women would not have gone back and told the married guy (boat left the dock la, girl...) about her feelings when their relationship is long time over?

i get asked out at client sites sometimes, and by men who know i'm engaged - they will say things like what kind of guy is vin to "let" me travel for work and be alone. these are the guys that i completely lose respect for - because you know they just want to go out with me because they think i'm lonely and far from home and therefore "easy prey". i always reply that nobody 'lets' me do anything because i choose what i do, and secondly, vin is the kind of guy who is confident and secure in our relationship.

conversely, i have heard guys on the plane on the way to las vegas, debating whether or not they should take their wedding rings off so they can "have a good time"... makes me sick to hear this.. :(

agree with you, sila. But, I don't feel annoy anymore after I have understand the reasons behind what they did..... In fact, I would accept it if my partner goes out to play once a while but as long as he knows his limit and come back to me every night.

[Sila]

I see things too clearly.....I am afraid to get into relationship for the past four years since my last relationship. Have been chicken out many times....
don't rush it natalie.. i know how you feel - i barely dated anyone between my last bf and vin.. space of 4 years. first year - ANGRY (many new candidates were shot down hard). 2nd year - apathetic (candidates gave up because i didn't give a shit). 3rd year - looking but dunno how to approach (and nobody was interested). 4th year - gave up and decide to be friends with everyone. suddenly guys got interested again but i decide to pick and choose and didn't really date until i met vin. by the time i met him though i was ready for something new, not angry, not looking for "rebound" guy, nothing like that. it just clicked. so don't rush it...

[Voon Chan]

agree with you, sila. But, I don't feel annoy anymore after I have understand the reasons behind what they did..... In fact, I would accept it if my partner goes out to play once a while but as long as he knows his limit and come back to me every night.Wow!

[Sila]

I give my wife space & room. She can fly to Europe for 3 months & etc. She trust me enough to say that I would not be involved with another
exactly vc - it is trust and understanding that the knife cuts both ways. if i can cheat while i am away, vin can cheat while he's at home. so choose to be faithful, everybody happy! :)

[Sila]

agree with you, sila. But, I don't feel annoy anymore after I have understand the reasons behind what they did..... In fact, I would accept it if my partner goes out to play once a while but as long as he knows his limit and come back to me every night.
the limit is important.. :) but allowing your loved ones to be who they are, since that is why you fell in love in the first place, is hard to do sometimes.. whoever said "if you love them, set them free" was very wise

[natalie]

...arent you worried that you might let a good thing pass you by? was the last relationship THAT traumatic 4u.?
It was my fault that I let him go. I have never regret with my decisions in other past relationship except this one.....

It's not that I think he is the best thing that ever happen in my life. I have been thinking that my heart is not ready....or the right guy has not appear...

[WitchKing]

agree with you, sila. But, I don't feel annoy anymore after I have understand the reasons behind what they did..... In fact, I would accept it if my partner goes out to play once a while but as long as he knows his limit and come back to me every night.

what are they?

[Voon Chan]

exactly vc - it is trust and understanding that the knife cuts both ways. if i can cheat while i am away, vin can cheat while he's at home. so choose to be faithful, everybody happy! :)Yes Sila. People need to understand this fact

[natalie]

don't rush it natalie..

Thanks a lot, sila......I have been ignoring people in the past 4 years.... :p

[Voon Chan]

Thanks a lot, sila......I have been ignoring people in the past 4 years.... :pDon't ignore. Just be a friend to them. Maybe you will discover a nice guy

[natalie]

what are they?
Sometimes, guys just mulut gatal..... :p

[Sila]

Thanks a lot, sila......I have been ignoring people in the past 4 years.... :p
seemed like when i was angry and apathetic was when i got lots of admirers. when i thought i was ready, suddenly nobody. all shot down liao.. hahahaha but then i got friendly again, so then suddenly got admirers again. so just keep one eye open lah, natalie. be friends with everyone. who knows what's in store for you ;)

[natalie]

Don't ignore. Just be a friend to them. Maybe you will discover a nice guy
Thanks, I am trying......
Just experience one confession from a much younger boy last weekend....I think he is 25....But I was liking someone else now... :p

[Sila]

Thanks, I am trying......
Just experience one confession from a much younger boy last weekend....I think he is 25....But I was liking someone else now... :p
options are always nice, nat.. ;)

[Voon Chan]

Thanks, I am trying......
Just experience one confession from a much younger boy last weekend....I think he is 25....But I was liking someone else now... :pgreat! just wait & see

[Voon Chan]

This thread is hot 2 hours,94 postings

[natalie]

haha thanks guys, suddenly this became "support nat's thread" :p but I really appreciate your advices......

[Voon Chan]

haha thanks guys, suddenly this became "support nat's thread" :p but I really appreciate your advices......No problem! As long as you are happy

[natalie]

This thread is hot 2 hours,94 postings
Yeah, hot. I reach 550 without vic this time.....

[WitchKing]

It was my fault that I let him go. I have never regret with my decisions in other past relationship except this one.....

It's not that I think he is the best thing that ever happen in my life. I have been thinking that my heart is not ready....or the right guy has not appear...

what can I say,need to move on regardless. Just to share a point in my life, in one of my splits I knew I could go mental, unless I move, and move quickly. Move I did, but I also knew that a grain of sand is in me, always. The sand of 'what ifs....' u know, 'what if I'd done this, what if I'd said that, what if ......'. That grain of sand can stay there. Its already a part of me but it doesnt represent who I am, right now.

So, I keep telling myself move on. There are still some ways to go yet. Something better could turn up. And I can finally wash that sand away for good.

[Voon Chan]

Yeah, hot. I reach 550 without vic this time.....but with VC

[natalie]

options are always nice, nat.. ;)
Yes they are....:p
One problem I have is, it's always the 'boys' that attracted to me or probably I m attracted to, what is wrong with me?

[WitchKing]

Sometimes, guys just mulut gatal..... :p

Oh, that.....try hot pepper.

[natalie]

but with VC

Haha, yes.....change partner for a while..... since both our partner in crime are not available....

[WitchKing]

options are always nice, nat.. ;)


see, told you... :D

[Sila]

Yes they are....:p
One problem I have is, it's always the 'boys' that attracted to me or probably I m attracted to, what is wrong with me?
can you elaborate a bit, nat? :)

[Sila]

Oh, that.....try hot pepper.
aaah i've been threatened with that before.. "nak kena cabai mulut ke??" :) i think that might've been my opah for talking back to her..

[WitchKing]

Yes they are....:p
One problem I have is, it's always the 'boys' that attracted to me or probably I m attracted to, what is wrong with me?


Boyz attracted to girls, I would call those boyz NORMAL. That aso means you are JUST FINE.

[natalie]

can you elaborate a bit, nat? :)
The ones that likes me are about 21 to 25....the one that I like now is 26. I am 29 soon..... :unsure:

[natalie]

aaah i've been threatened with that before.. "nak kena cabai mulut ke??" :) i think that might've been my opah for talking back to her..
Opps.....

[natalie]

Boyz attracted to girls, I would call those boyz NORMAL. That aso means you are JUST FINE.
Yes, they are boys.........but I prefer man, how? :p

[WitchKing]

The ones that likes me are about 21 to 25....the one that I like now is 26. I am 29 soon..... :unsure:

...hmm, so that means you looking like a <21-er. err that is NOT a problem last time I checked. :laugh:

[Sila]

Yes, they are boys.........but I prefer man, how? :p
wait for man to come lah.. :)

if boys, but mature then OK. but if boys but too immature, don't waste your time. you're too good for them.. :D

[WitchKing]

Yes, they are boys.........but I prefer man, how? :p

Boyz II Men. Nuff Said. :noworry:

[Sila]

Boyz II Men. Nuff Said. :noworry:
sometimes long time to wait for boys to grow up to be men lah.. :)

[WitchKing]

sometimes long time to wait for boys to grow up to be men lah.. :)

but must aso be aware that inside every grown man is still a little boy, and every grown woman, a little girl...at least for most of us I think :huh:

[Sila]

but must aso be aware that inside every grown man is still a little boy, and every grown woman, a little girl...at least for most of us I think :huh:
why? some of us nazgul and therefore have no souls? no little girls or boys residing within? ;)

[natalie]

OK, will see if boy that I like can become a man or not, otherwise, opt for others la.... :D

[WitchKing]

why? some of us nazgul and therefore have no souls? no little girls or boys residing within? ;)

...sheesh, how to reply this wan ahh??..then I think have to hang around those with Peter Pan-esque attitude, and HOPE it will rub off on the Nazguls....

[natalie]

...sheesh, how to reply this wan ahh??..then I think have to hang around those with Peter Pan-esque attitude, and HOPE it will rub off on the Nazguls....
:laugh:

[Sila]

...sheesh, how to reply this wan ahh??..then I think have to hang around those with Peter Pan-esque attitude, and HOPE it will rub off on the Nazguls....
:D me tired and sleepy lah... lack of sleep causing me to become a nazgul..

better get on to bed. gnight all!!

[WitchKing]

:D me tired and sleepy lah... lack of sleep causing me to become a nazgul..

better get on to bed. gnight all!!

Later, SIl.

[natalie]

Good night, Sila....See you again....

[Voon Chan]

Where are we now?

[natalie]

hmm....I think my chapter is over.....nazgul is oso over I think, so do you want close this thread? This thread marks another achievement in the forum, more than 100 posts in less than 3 hours.....

[Voon Chan]

It is ok. Give everyone a chance to read & contribute. More will reply to your posting

[daBoss]

vc, very interesting thread... spent quite some time going through the posts...

is the scenario for real, or is it just a story? if it's for real, you're a good guy :)

[Voon Chan]

vc, very interesting thread... spent quite some time going through the posts...

is the scenario for real, or is it just a story? if it's for real, you're a good guy :)It my real life story here. My life.

[daBoss]

you seem to be a magnet where girls are concerned... :)

[Voon Chan]

you seem to be a magnet where girls are concerned... :)magnet can work both ways. It all depend on whether you place them correctly:p

[WitchKing]

hmm....I think my chapter is over.....nazgul is oso over I think, so do you want close this thread? This thread marks another achievement in the forum, more than 100 posts in less than 3 hours.....

very impressive. evryone pat yourselves on da back.

[Voon Chan]

very impressive. evryone pat yourselves on da back.just did that

[t-wei]

VC, u seems to be very open with your life (open book) which i find it very rare in many...anyway glad to hear that you made ur stand! I'm sure your wife appreciate that honesty in you... :)

[LiLiaN]

wow, sure is an interesting but very long thread... not good on a day like this when i SHOULD be working... lol... :p

anyway, a bit more serious side, i believe anyone who's involved with someone else is totally off limit... no exception...

there's no need for rushing into relationship at all... rebound relationship is messy and hard to cope with... broke up with my ex about 2 years now, am in no hurry for the next relationship... well, i supposed previously i couldn't even envisioning going out with anyone after the break-up because i was very emotionally involved but i have since decided to truly put that behind me and it was great as i felt a sense of real freedom after that...

now one small problem is that my ex is still very present (i'm trying to stay as friend, platonic, and nothing else) and he's regretting the breakup... a bit tough, but i don't want to go back to where i was before, in such misery after the breakup... and too much has happened that i have changed even if he hasn't...

[natalie]

now one small problem is that my ex is still very present (i'm trying to stay as friend, platonic, and nothing else) and he's regretting the breakup... a bit tough, but i don't want to go back to where i was before, in such misery after the breakup... and too much has happened that i have changed even if he hasn't...

I don't know how long you were together, but if a relationship is worth getting back together, I think you should consider it.
But, please also remember, follow your heart........

[LiLiaN]

I don't know how long you were together, but if a relationship is worth getting back together, I think you should consider it.
But, please also remember, follow your heart........we were together for 2 1/2 years... i would consider getting back together if he had asked last year, but now too long has lapsed and i have moved on... plus we broke up with the most ridiculous reasons ever... i don't think i can forget those even though i've forgiven him...

[euj]

we were together for 2 1/2 years... i would consider getting back together if he had asked last year, but now too long has lapsed and i have moved on... plus we broke up with the most ridiculous reasons ever... i don't think i can forget those even though i've forgiven him...
what was the reason?

[WitchKing]

now one small problem is that my ex is still very present (i'm trying to stay as friend, platonic, and nothing else) and he's regretting the breakup... a bit tough, but i don't want to go back to where i was before, in such misery after the breakup... and too much has happened that i have changed even if he hasn't...

lazy to look in dict, but platonic is what ahh?

[euj]

lazy to look in dict, but platonic is what ahh?
platonic means fren fren only...

[LiLiaN]

what was the reason?several reasons:
- he just started working in milan so i was living too far away (even though previously he was living in paris and me in dublin, still have to commute regularly back then) and ok, this reason is not one of the silly illogical reasons
- he'd like the chance to go out with italian girls (his childhood dream) *how considerate, NOT!*
- his live was at a new chapter, and since he has new job, in a new town, with new sets of social circle, maybe should get a new gf too (???!!!!!!)
- his family isn't happy that i'm not pure-breed french
- he wanted to plan on having a family asap and i wasn't ready for that (c'mon, i was only in my third year undergrad then, 22 years old, with loans etc to worry over, and he's 3 years older than me, just barely graduated) - he has this plan even before i came along that he'd like to be married by 27 and have kids before he's 30...

[euj]

several reasons:
- he just started working in milan so i was living too far away (even though previously he was living in paris and me in dublin, still have to commute regularly back then) and ok, this reason is not one of the silly illogical reasons
- he'd like the chance to go out with italian girls (his childhood dream) *how considerate, NOT!*
- his live was at a new chapter, and since he has new job, in a new town, with new sets of social circle, maybe should get a new gf too (???!!!!!!)
- his family isn't happy that i'm not pure-breed french
- he wanted to plan on having a family asap and i wasn't ready for that (c'mon, i was only in my third year undergrad then, 22 years old, with loans etc to worry over, and he's 3 years older than me, just barely graduated) - he has this plan even before i came along that he'd like to be married by 27 and have kids before he's 30...
don't ever, ever take him back. is he italian? i would lose respect for you if you ever did...

[LiLiaN]

don't ever, ever take him back. is he italian? i would lose respect for you if you ever did...no, he's french... (i hope he's not sneaking around here reading this... i have link to the alumni from my blog and he does read the blog)...

[euj]

no, he's french... (i hope he's not sneaking around here reading this... i have link to the alumni from my blog and he does read the blog)...
well i think he's a d**khead for some of those break up reasons...

[euj]

lil, what's your blog add by the way?

[LiLiaN]

well i think he's a d**khead for some of those break up reasons...i thought so too for a while, but it's all in the past, and he has apologised like ten thousand times for them... still, doesn't mean i'm forgetting them anytime soon... worse, we were actually very happy at that time and out of nowhere i got dumped for those silly reasons... hit the road babe... and don't turn back...

[LiLiaN]

lil, what's your blog add by the way?www.ifantabulous.com
i know, silly-ish name, but it has a feel good factor to it i believe... ;)

[euj]

i thought so too for a while, but it's all in the past, and he has apologised like ten thousand times for them... still, doesn't mean i'm forgetting them anytime soon... worse, we were actually very happy at that time and out of nowhere i got dumped for those silly reasons... hit the road babe... and don't turn back...
god on you. so proud of you. there are some lines in a relationship one should never cross and he crossed them...

[LiLiaN]

god on you. so proud of you. there are some lines in a relationship one should never cross and he crossed them...thanks euj... i had to say i was a wreck for a while back there but i recover...
(sorry vc, for hijacking the thread...!)
anyway, i've gotta run... need to complete my report before meeting in the afternoon...

[natalie]

Lil, no way I m going back to this guy if I were you..........
I broke off with one of my ex with similar reason - He was 24 when I was 22, asking me to marry him, wedding already preparing and I was still saying no. His parents was oso not quite happy that I am not their race. We had quite a fight like 2 months before the wedding, he ended up marrying one of his relative's daughter.....

[WitchKing]

Lil, no way I m going back to this guy if I were you..........
I broke off with one of my ex with similar reason - He was 24 when I was 22, asking me to marry him, wedding already preparing and I was still saying no. His parents was oso not quite happy that I am not their race. We had quite a fight like 2 months before the wedding, he ended up marrying one of his relative's daughter.....

I now see the reason for the possible relationship trauma.

[euj]

Lil, no way I m going back to this guy if I were you..........
I broke off with one of my ex with similar reason - He was 24 when I was 22, asking me to marry him, wedding already preparing and I was still saying no. His parents was oso not quite happy that I am not their race. We had quite a fight like 2 months before the wedding, he ended up marrying one of his relative's daughter.....
wah, so sorry to hear that nat, but good on you for being strong.

if you don't mind me asking, what race was he? sorry ah, i very kpc... :o

[natalie]

wah, so sorry to hear that nat, but good on you for being strong.

if you don't mind me asking, what race was he? sorry ah, i very kpc... :o
No worries. Euj.
He is Iban from Kuching.....The parents prefer people similar background.
What I could not stand is his parents want me to stay in their kampung for two years to learn their culture after we are married. Siao!

[natalie]

I now see the reason for the possible relationship trauma.
Naz, sounds like a follow up on story background?

[LiLiaN]

so sorry to hear about that nat... at least on my end, no wedding preps in motion...

as for my ex, despite what he said etc for the breakup, accordingly (to him and to his friends whom i also know), every time he tried going out with someone, he found himself talking about me and comparing the girl with me and i always came out a winner...!

tough luck i supposed... that did flatter me a little but i take no pleasure in knowing such a thing...

[WitchKing]

Naz, sounds like a follow up on story background?

err, mine or yours?

[h2o]

so sorry to hear about that nat... at least on my end, no wedding preps in motion...

as for my ex, despite what he said etc for the breakup, accordingly (to him and to his friends whom i also know), every time he tried going out with someone, he found himself talking about me and comparing the girl with me and i always came out a winner...!

tough luck i supposed... that did flatter me a little but i take no pleasure in knowing such a thing...
do NOT reduce urself to such amoebic lowlifes - plenty of fish in the ocean, m'dear! it's too big a decision to settle for second best (someone so volatile like ur ex).

[LiLiaN]

do NOT reduce urself to such amoebic lowlifes - plenty of fish in the ocean, m'dear! it's too big a decision to settle for second best (someone so volatile like ur ex).i won't do name calling but no, i'm not going to be someone's second best nor would i settle for second best... ;)

[Voon Chan]

VC, u seems to be very open with your life (open book) which i find it very rare in many...anyway glad to hear that you made ur stand! I'm sure your wife appreciate that honesty in you... :)Well, there is no information I can conceal forever. Someone will witness me doing it. Just share some of my life story in the forum. Some people may like it, some people may not.

My wife, she was happy that day when I informed her. She appreciate my effort to be the best possible husband to her.

Thank you everyone for your contribution to this thread.

[daBoss]

yeah, vc has been very open in the forum - and i have to add that his is a very very colorful life indeed... :)

[daBoss]

no, he's french... (i hope he's not sneaking around here reading this... i have link to the alumni from my blog and he does read the blog)...
we'll ban his ip address - first ban for this forum... :D

[natalie]

we'll ban his ip address - first ban for this forum... :D
Good.... ban him!....

[natalie]

err, mine or yours?

:laugh: anything la....

[WitchKing]

:laugh: anything la....

:noworry: :amused: okay nat, i will share one more thing, and that is both of us do share one common thing in past relationships that dont work out..anything more beyond this is I will say no more and is pure PM level mkay? :cool:

[Voon Chan]

yeah, vc has been very open in the forum - and i have to add that his is a very very colorful life indeed... :)Colourful life in certain area of my life only. daBoss, you can have that too. daLady is enough to colour your life right now.

[natalie]

:noworry: :amused: okay nat, i will share one more thing, and that is both of us do share one common thing in past relationships that dont work out..anything more beyond this is I will say no more and is pure PM level mkay? :cool:

The thing we dont share is you found a solution to your relationship trauma - your wife. I belum! :huh:
Anyway, I found potential solutions pun jadi la....

[WitchKing]

The thing we dont share is you found a solution to your relationship trauma - your wife. I belum! :huh:
Anyway, I found potential solutions pun jadi la....

good4u, nat. keep at it, 'happiness is juz a tear drop away'.

[natalie]

haha, I reached 600 posts liao....very fast sure reach 700, 800, 900....... :cool:

[Voon Chan]

haha, I reached 600 posts liao....very fast sure reach 700, 800, 900....... :cool:Well done Nat.

Nazlan, awak ini bila nak sampai 1000 posting?

[WitchKing]

Well done Nat.

Nazlan, awak ini bila nak sampai 1000 posting?

Slowly, brader.Really really slowly :cool:

<am i really oledi at 675?!>

[Voon Chan]

Slowly, brader.Really really slowly :cool:

<am i really oledi at 675?!>See you there!

[euj]

come on naz and nat! go 1000!

[WitchKing]

come on naz and nat! go 1000!

i'm a going!! i'm a going!! goodness, theres juz no pleasing some people!! :laugh: :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

i'm a going!! i'm a going!! goodness, theres juz no pleasing some people!! :laugh: :laugh:If you're forcing it, you're doing something wrong-euj's dad. So no forcing Nazlan to reach 1000!

[euj]

If you're forcing it, you're doing something wrong-euj's dad. So no forcing Nazlan to reach 1000!
haha...well spotted. good point! take your time guys... :)

[WitchKing]

haha...well spotted. good point! take your time guys... :)

thank u, kind sirs. :noworry:

[Voon Chan]

thank u, kind sirs. :noworry:You are most welcome my Lord.

[LiLiaN]

we'll ban his ip address - first ban for this forum... :Dwell, no need so drastic measure, do we...? besides he has promised me that he won't come near here and if he did and he read any of these, he can only stew in silent otherwise he'd had broken his promise to me... that, he knows himself, will put him in my bad book forever...

[natalie]

come on naz and nat! go 1000!
trying trying trying

[WitchKing]

trying trying trying

dont force it nat ;) remember, 'Quality Posting' :noworry:

[natalie]

dont force it nat ;) remember, 'Quality Posting' :noworry:
sure.....and I just realised that I m right behind you! :p

[WitchKing]

sure.....and I just realised that I m right behind you! :p

No worries, by all means 'Ladies First' :D

[Lava Gal]

I am a married man with a 2 years old son. One morning, I got a call from a girl. She is my dream girl. In 1997, I was so interested in her. She is a girl I will do anything to have her.

After so many years, she came to me & tell me this "after so many year I finally realised that you are the man for me. I really regret my action. I want you as my husband now. (knowing that I am married)".

I was very happy that moment because my dream girl said that to me. I just collect myself together and tell her "I am happily married with a son. If you have told me this in 1997 you are my wife at this moment. It is too late. I am sorry, I can't accept your propsal. Hope you will find another man in your life".

She was so dissappointed with me. I was not dissappointed with myself as I think I made the right move. I love my family very much.

Please share your view with me.


HATS OFF....VC!
Am proud of u; coz u didnt try flirting with her or anything...esp since Mrs not around...instead told her off in a nice way. i think u r truly a gentleman...bravo, VC!!! :D

[Lava Gal]

the limit is important.. :) but allowing your loved ones to be who they are, since that is why you fell in love in the first place, is hard to do sometimes.. whoever said "if you love them, set them free" was very wise

yup...and "if they come back to u :D
if they don't...well, then...they were never meant to be urs in d 1st place"

[LiLiaN]

vc, recalling that i saw this a few days back, decided to dig it out for sharing... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/lilianl/20050329cplis-a-p.jpg

[Lava Gal]

Lil> aww...tatz soooo chweetttt & meaningful :cool:

[natalie]

No worries, by all means 'Ladies First' :D

Eh, you said lady first!!! You sendiri sudah lari sampai 700!
:p

[natalie]

Lil, it's a nice one, but how many guys can do this?
My friend is so polite that he virtuously praise a girl's earrings in front of me when I m actually wearing a new pair myself! haha :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

vc, recalling that i saw this a few days back, decided to dig it out for sharing... :)



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/lilianl/20050329cplis-a-p.jpg



That is so cute & sweet LiliaN. Thank you

[euj]

Lil, it's a nice one, but how many guys can do this?
My friend is so polite that he virtuously praise a girl's earrings in front of me when I m actually wearing a new pair myself! haha :laugh:
aiyah, can still compliment other women lah...just can't cross the line - that's all...

[WitchKing]

Eh, you said lady first!!! You sendiri sudah lari sampai 700!
:p

wehh! soli soli i sendiri pun tak perasan...should I wait for you to catchup?? :rolleyes:

[natalie]

wehh! soli soli i sendiri pun tak perasan...should I wait for you to catchup?? :rolleyes:

no need la.....it's like lost to you in the 100 metres, you did it in 12sec and I still need 16sec... :D

[WitchKing]

aiyah, can still compliment other women lah...just can't cross the line - that's all...

yalah betul tu..tak tegur nanti orang kata kita nii kera sumbang pulak ... or 'beksyen' (i still remember the malay girls in my ACS classes calling me that, trauma lama beb!!!!!) :laugh:

[natalie]

aiyah, can still compliment other women lah...just can't cross the line - that's all...

I think we lady must oso not cross the line, for example, getting upset over this kind of petty things with guys....they simply don't mean anything sometimes and it will only tense the relationship. Agree?

[Lava Gal]

I think we lady must oso not cross the line, for example, getting upset over this kind of petty things with guys....they simply don't mean anything sometimes and it will only tense the relationship. Agree?


yup Nat, totallly AGREE on that one...being oversensitive doesnt pay off! take it ez...shud be the policy :)

[arch-an-gel]

I am a married man with a 2 years old son. One morning, I got a call from a girl. She is my dream girl. In 1997, I was so interested in her. She is a girl I will do anything to have her.

After so many years, she came to me & tell me this "after so many year I finally realised that you are the man for me. I really regret my action. I want you as my husband now. (knowing that I am married)".

I was very happy that moment because my dream girl said that to me. I just collect myself together and tell her "I am happily married with a son. If you have told me this in 1997 you are my wife at this moment. It is too late. I am sorry, I can't accept your propsal. Hope you will find another man in your life".

She was so dissappointed with me. I was not dissappointed with myself as I think I made the right move. I love my family very much.

Please share your view with me.


Since you already knew that the seemingly calm and cooling river has aligators, then make sure you don't swim in it.

smart move.. rejecting the "aligator". :cool:

[Lava Gal]

naz> "eksyen" tu pernah dengarle...but wat is this neo-word **scratch head** "beksyen"?? izit bodoh + eksyen (guessing je ni..)

[natalie]

naz> "eksyen" tu pernah dengarle...but wat is this neo-word **scratch head** "beksyen"?? izit bodoh + eksyen (guessing je ni..)
haha, I like this one .....

[Voon Chan]

Since you already knew that the seemingly calm and cooling river has aligators, then make sure you don't swim in it.

smart move.. rejecting the "aligator". :cool:female alligator, more dangerous as compare to the male alligator. Once the bite(oouch!), they won't let go.:p

[natalie]

female alligator, more dangerous as compare to the male alligator. Once the bite(oouch!), they won't let go.:p

we don't bite, we swallow!
:D

[Voon Chan]

we don't bite, we swallow!
:DBite 1st! Later only swallow

[natalie]

Bite 1st! Later only swallow
:laugh: :laugh:

[WitchKing]

naz> "eksyen" tu pernah dengarle...but wat is this neo-word **scratch head** "beksyen"?? izit bodoh + eksyen (guessing je ni..)

know what lav? actually I realised I have never found out what the b was for... , entah2 memang for 'bodoh' kot. Salam should be able to confirm, he very kamcing with the ladies back then.

Weh Salam! Yang 'b' itu untuk apa ahh? (after 18 years now only I ask, crazyyyyyyy :wacko: )

[WitchKing]

:laugh: :laugh:

the mind boggles :eek:

[natalie]

know what lav? actually I realised I have never found out what the b was for... , entah2 memang for 'bodoh' kot. Salam should be able to confirm, he very kamcing with the ladies back then.

Weh Salam! Yang 'b' itu untuk apa ahh? (after 18 years now only I ask, crazyyyyyyy :wacko: )

Maybe B is for bangang? :laugh:

[WitchKing]

Maybe B is for bangang? :laugh:

entah2 for Baik :cool: ....... NOT!!!

[Voon Chan]

Maybe "bonggok"

[natalie]

entah2 for Baik :cool: ....... NOT!!!
Baik+Eksyen? Tak ngam la....
VC's one boleh...Bonggok+Eksyen = Beksyen.....

[WitchKing]

Maybe "bonggok"

:laugh: were you aware of this going on then in 4ScM2 VC? Thats why cannot be too quiet, senyap2 pun kena taroh! btw its bongok, not bonggok.

[Voon Chan]

:laugh: were you aware of this going on then in 4ScM2 VC? Thats why cannot be too quiet, senyap2 pun kena taroh! btw its bongok, not bonggok.Iam not that aware about "beksyen". Thank you for the correction

[LiLiaN]

aiyah, can still compliment other women lah...just can't cross the line - that's all...there's nothing wrong with complimenting others... it's just one of those social nice-ty kind of thing....

[natalie]

there's nothing wrong with complimenting others... it's just one of those social nice-ty kind of thing....

haha, I guess I was jealous... :laugh:

[euj]

there's nothing wrong with complimenting others... it's just one of those social nice-ty kind of thing....
agreed...

[LiLiaN]

haha, I guess I was jealous... :laugh:well, if he only praise the other person and not you, understandable... want to be observant need to do thorough job mah...

[euj]

well, if he only praise the other person and not you, understandable... want to be observant need to do thorough job mah...
good point...

[natalie]

well, if he only praise the other person and not you, understandable... want to be observant need to do thorough job mah...
haha, he never praise me one and I am used to it....Just that he often praise other girls in front of me. He has this attitude that he always like to do something to make me jealous, yet I have not lost my cool so far.... :p

[euj]

haha, he never praise me one and I am used to it....Just that he often praise other girls in front of me. He has this attitude that he always like to do something to make me jealous, yet I have not lost my cool so far.... :p
at face value that sounds like a disfunctional relationship... :(

[LiLiaN]

haha, he never praise me one and I am used to it....Just that he often praise other girls in front of me. He has this attitude that he always like to do something to make me jealous, yet I have not lost my cool so far.... :pthat's not nice of him...! if i were you, i'll start praising other guys except him in front of him, see how he'll like that... :mad:

[euj]

that's not nice of him...! if i were you, i'll start praising other guys except him in front of him, see how he'll like that... :mad:
i think a better way of doing it is to sit him down and have a talk about it. tell him you noticed that behaviour, how you feel about it and get to root of the reason why he's like that...

[LiLiaN]

i think a better way of doing it is to sit him down and have a talk about it. tell him you noticed that behaviour, how you feel about it and get to root of the reason why he's like that...no lar.. some people just like to do the opposite of what they should.. show by example could be more effective... at least it worked with my ex... :p

[natalie]

thanks for the ideas, euj and lil, I guess it's just a boyish attitude and I can still bear with it. But I'd probably try lil's idea first and then euj's one.....

[natalie]

at face value that sounds like a disfunctional relationship... :(
My options still open tho, plenty of them to select from.... But this one is my favourite at the moment.... :p

[Voon Chan]

My options still open tho, plenty of them to select from.... But this one is my favourite at the moment.... :pWow! Whole load of candidates to select from. Great!

[natalie]

Wow! Whole load of candidates to select from. Great!
hehe, no la....a few only. no commitment made mah....still fren fren only. I want to get serious with one, but have not found a "so call soul mate" yet....

[Voon Chan]

hehe, no la....a few only. no commitment made mah....still fren fren only. I want to get serious with one, but have not found a "so call soul mate" yet....soul mate? Very difficult to findlah

[natalie]

soul mate? Very difficult to findlah
When you have feel the 4 chemistry worked, which are phsycal, mental, emotional and spiritual with that person....then you know you found your soul mate.... :)

[natalie]

I found someone very very close to being a soul mate and he is married now. We were almost flling up the 4 chemistry, but somehow, one of it not met, so we are just very close friend now..... :noworry:

[Voon Chan]

When you have feel the 4 chemistry worked, which are phsycal, mental, emotional and spiritual with that person....then you know you found your soul mate.... :)Spiritual is the most difficult part. I know. BTW, a soul mate need not be your spouse

[natalie]

Spiritual is the most difficult part. I know. BTW, a soul mate need not be your spouse
Totally agreed.

[euj]

if you spouse is not your soul mate, then what's the point?

[natalie]

if you spouse is not your soul mate, then what's the point?
Change spouses all the time and keep one soul mate? :rolleyes:

[euj]

Change spouses all the time and keep one soul mate? :rolleyes:
aiyah, not very practical and not very nice also lah...

[natalie]

aiyah, not very practical and not very nice also lah...
Hmm.... Elizabeth Taylor did this, didn't she? :p

[euj]

Hmm.... Elizabeth Taylor did this, didn't she? :p
and look at her now. i don't think she's very happy...

[natalie]

and look at her now. i don't think she's very happy...
haha, true.....

[WitchKing]

haha, true.....

Settle for 'life partner' then. soul mate....dunno, too spritual, not altogether very realistic in this day and age....

[natalie]

Settle for 'life partner' then. soul mate....dunno, too spritual, not altogether very realistic in this day and age....
hey, Naz....have not seen you this morning, very busy ka?

[Lava Gal]

know what lav? actually I realised I have never found out what the b was for... , entah2 memang for 'bodoh' kot. Salam should be able to confirm, he very kamcing with the ladies back then.

Weh Salam! Yang 'b' itu untuk apa ahh? (after 18 years now only I ask, crazyyyyyyy :wacko: )


oopsss...18yrs redy. well well, better late than never! if u find out what it stands 4, lemme know yea :p

[Lava Gal]

haha, I guess I was jealous... :laugh:

Nat, i can identify wif that...but its normal rite. If they are juz observant towards certain parties...and not to others :sus:

[Lava Gal]

Hhhmmm...so much has been said bout soul mates...click on this link, people :D
Hope u r enlightened
http://www.soulmatereader2002.com/

btw, i think its best to follow ur heart, Nat...it'll tell u whose closest to being ur 'soulmate'...or even 'twin flame' maybe

[natalie]

btw, i think its best to follow ur heart, Nat...it'll tell u whose closest to being ur 'soulmate'...or even 'twin flame' maybe

I will, Lav. Thanks..... I just have not found one, fortunately I am not in a dilemma of deciding between individuals....That is what my friend went thru...She almost leave both relationships and ran away....

[Lava Gal]

I will, Lav. Thanks..... I just have not found one, fortunately I am not in a dilemma of deciding between individuals....That is what my friend went thru...She almost leave both relationships and ran away....


My my...tatz a really tough situation! :unsure:

[WitchKing]

hey, Naz....have not seen you this morning, very busy ka?

i keep getting dropped on anf off the net today, dunno if its due to the telekom internet problem since yesterday or my office's upgrade of the PABX line....very slow response times aso. keep getting more than a few pages not loaded successfully.

[h2o]

Spiritual is the most difficult part. I know. BTW, a soul mate need not be your spouse
all the ppl i know who r looking for a soul mate, r looking to have a permanent relationship ie spouse?? not?

[h2o]

if you spouse is not your soul mate, then what's the point?
i agree totally
why go thru the whole kaboodle (having a wedding, getting involved w the in-laws, sharing assets, for guys - getting stuck w the pmt's, for gals - getting stuck w the midlife crises, for some - having kids, etc.)
then why not just have short-term relationships instead?
personally i feel that if u match the 4-part chemistry then u'd wanna b with the person so much that u couldn't be married to the one who isn't ur soulmate. jus my dua sen....

[daBoss]

problem is people change - soul-mate for 10 years, then quarrel every day - how? nothing is for certain - you just have to put the effort and commitment into your relationship...

[h2o]

problem is people change - soul-mate for 10 years, then quarrel every day - how? nothing is for certain - you just have to put the effort and commitment into your relationship...
sometimes ppl don't marry their soulmate (for whatever reason, circumstances, desperation or loneliness - cannot wait n settle for second best, some make decision in immaturity, etc.) then they end up w 10 yrs of misery......
but you're definitely right in that ppl change, that's a fact of life
and sadly some change for the worse rather than the better.........

[daBoss]

...sadly some change for the worse rather than the better...
that's not correct...

MOST change for the worse... not just SOME

[h2o]

that's not correct...

MOST change for the worse... not just SOME
- take time to laugh, it is the music of the soul
- dress kinky (if ur a gal) it's inspirational
- be creative in problem solving, it's a breath of fresh air
- be content w the $$$ u have, less worries
- enjoy simple things in life eg. walking barefoot in the sand, gulping down lotsa cold water when ur REALLY THIRSTY like after playing badminton (fantastic feeling), watchin the rain, eating sashimi (sliding it down ur throat is therapeutic) w heaps of wasabe then fake crying, ha ha
- drive fast!! (maybe this will end it all, oops)
- eat junk food, my take on life
with this i face going into my forties a single mom w two kids fending for the three of us alone......... my girlfriends say i look hot and sound positive, even the married ones try to rub off some cheer from me;
so don't b pessimistic at all! live life to the full...

[daBoss]

h2o, from the little i can see through your online presense, you're ok and i'm proud to have you as a fellow alumni forummer :)

[Lava Gal]

what do u all think about this?

I have a friend who juz happened to be there at times of trouble & need, more like Godsent...and we can understand each other perfectly well...and i juz knew her well for <2yrs! Now...we joke that we are soulmates...haha and she once told me "Thank God u r a gal too...if u were a guy, my boyfriend would start getting worried ready" - tatz how well we connect emotionally ;)

[daBoss]

sure sounds like a soul-mate to me :) good for you lavanya...

[Sila]

call me pessimistic, but i don't believe in soul mates. i believe in the magic between 2 people if it is right, and i believe in being compatible in every which way, and i believe in finding wonderful things in unexpected places, but i don't believe in soulmates. i think when i was a teenager i did - waited expectantly for my "prince charming" and all that crap, but over the years i've realized that those ideals were just that, ideals, and every guy failed to meet my idea of "soulmate" - and we just end up hurting each other in the process.

i believe in love, friendship, loyalty, honesty, trust and faith. i believe it can come from anyone and everyone, man, woman or child. and euj's dad is right - if it is forced, you're doing something wrong.

when you find something or someone that is right, you fight for it/them. and for me, that is more than enough.

and besides, think about it - how boring would a soulmate be? someone that understood you so well, and that you understood so well, that there are no more surprises EVER! :) my two rupiahs...