Gym Gym Gym

[noname]

anyone here going to gym or not?

1) Fitness First
2) Sweat Club
3) Celebrity Fitness
4) Club Hatch
5) California Fitness

and etc...

wanna go as a group? me wanna to train ppl to do gym liao... help them to cut down fat, tone up muscle and teach them basic weight lifting... :D

currently i join celebrity fitness with my gang... a bantam weight lifting champion... :D

[athena]

wah, noname, sejak bila jadi gym spokesperson?

[noname]

ahahaha. saya dan guru aku memang jadi gym spokeman di Autoworld forum, Lowyat.net forum lor... ahahaha... just advise them nia...

i met some ppl there and train them. some lady also... but now become macho... ahahaha... can see 6 pack on ABS... kekeke

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[jerrychoo2004]

got heart no energy
too busy liao....to paktor and play online games... :laugh:
the most i go to the gym at my apartment during the weekend to exercise a bit

[athena]

so noname, for me to get those sexy abs, what must i do? :D

[noname]

sexy abs? hmmm... ubetter ask GL to train u... i cannot afford to train u.. later kena parang chop by GL... scary...

ahahaha. actually i must know what is ur weight, ur height... and only i can say judge how many KG you should be... and also i need to know your body fat % in ur body...

normal lady have 20 to 24% of BF in their body...

[athena]

haaha..i PM u...i shy wanna tell here..hehe..
anyway, i'm not asking you to train me..asking for advice nia...:D

[Voon Chan]

ahahaha. saya dan guru aku memang kadi gym spokeman di Autoworld forum, What is a "kadi gym". Is it an islamic gym?

[noname]

ahahaha. sorry, typo error... will edit it now... kadi = jadi...

[noname]

i oledi reply ur PM liao but dunno whether u received it or not... coz when i click post, after a while my IE perform illegal operation... let's me know ok.. i will PM u again...

[kamkuey]

noname.. u muscle lou in AW ar? AHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
Me in Celeb Fitness also...

[athena]

i oledi reply ur PM liao but dunno whether u received it or not... coz when i click post, after a while my IE perform illegal operation... let's me know ok.. i will PM u again...
yea i got ur pM, i already sent u my reply...u got it?

[ahbau]

ahahaha. saya dan guru aku memang jadi gym spokeman di Autoworld forum, Lowyat.net forum lor... ahahaha... just advise them nia...

i met some ppl there and train them. some lady also... but now become macho... ahahaha... can see 6 pack on ABS... kekeke

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currently i have my sexy 1 loaf
how to turn to the sexy 6pack ah?

[noname]

kamkuey,
u also surf AW. ahahaha. muscle lou is my gang... we sama sama train together (sometimes) and he's the one who taught me all the thing... ahahaha... in AW, my nickname is same in ACS forum. kekeke...

[noname]

athena, reply ur PM liao...

[kamkuey]

ooooo... so that is you ar? My nick also same wan...

[noname]

ahbau,
may i know ur height and weight pls? if can, ur bf percentage.

if your tummy is as big as kochun, then i would advise you to cut down your bf 1st before you bulk up and have 6 packs... im currently have 4 packs and the last 2 pack is quite hard... coz now im bulking up... n form one big tummy... when im reach to 75KG, i will cut down my bf and the abs will be visible...

so you need to go on diet (in gym term of diet, not gal type of diet ok). you need to eat well, sleep well and train well. if you dun have discipline, then you have FAILED the 1st important part.

food = you need to caluclate your daily intake calorie. from there, you need to know how many carbo intake, protein intake and etc... then slowly change to eat clean food. clean food = no fried food, no ajinomoto, no salt, no preserve taste and etc. wat clean food mean is plain cook and eat it. e.g. oat cereal. just mix with hot water and drink it. no sugar or salt.

clean food is not cheap, the cost of it might rise. i spend average around 1K to 1.5K for food, sometimes while my friends spend more than 3K for food, included those supplement food, protein, glutamine, creatine and etc...

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

[QUOTE=noname]sexy abs? hmmm... ubetter ask GL to train u... i cannot afford to train u.. later kena parang chop by GL... scary...

No lar......I won't chop you. I will only http://photobucket.com/albums/v638/alexdiong/th_vis.gif you.

[ahbau]

hmmmm....
this sounds more complicated than my uni final year project.
well, i suppose everything comes at a cost.
keep up the good work my friend.

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

ahbau,
may i know ur height and weight pls? if can, ur bf percentage.

if your tummy is as big as kochun, then i would advise you to cut down your bf 1st before you bulk up and have 6 packs... im currently have 4 packs and the last 2 pack is quite hard... coz now im bulking up... n form one big tummy... when im reach to 75KG, i will cut down my bf and the abs will be visible...

so you need to go on diet (in gym term of diet, not gal type of diet ok). you need to eat well, sleep well and train well. if you dun have discipline, then you have FAILED the 1st important part.

food = you need to caluclate your daily intake calorie. from there, you need to know how many carbo intake, protein intake and etc... then slowly change to eat clean food. clean food = no fried food, no ajinomoto, no salt, no preserve taste and etc. wat clean food mean is plain cook and eat it. e.g. oat cereal. just mix with hot water and drink it. no sugar or salt.

clean food is not cheap, the cost of it might rise. i spend average around 1K to 1.5K for food, sometimes while my friends spend more than 3K for food, included those supplement food, protein, glutamine, creatine and etc...
I would recommend your friend to go do his blood and renal check. Those supplements especially creatine is no good for your kidney.

[noname]

kamkuey,
so ur nick in AW are kamkuey lah... ahahaha. u good friend to klip-san?

[noname]

[QUOTE=noname]sexy abs? hmmm... ubetter ask GL to train u... i cannot afford to train u.. later kena parang chop by GL... scary...

No lar......I won't chop you. I will only http://photobucket.com/albums/v638/alexdiong/th_vis.gif you.
wah, still the same... also die at the end...

*cabuz*

[noname]

I would recommend your friend to go do his blood and renal check. Those supplements especially creatine is no good for your kidney.
GL, i belief he know what he's doing. he join the competition in bantam weight before and get champion. he know lots of these thing and experience it before. he kinda rich fella and can afford to play these expensive supplement. e.g. like buying those high class protein powder... costing around RM50++ per pack per drink. he wanna to give it to me to try but i reject. ahahaha...

anyway, dun worry so much about him. he's not taking creatine all the time. he take it when he join competition only. he still belief in solid food nutrition. :D

[WitchKing]

ahahaha. saya dan guru aku memang jadi gym spokeman di Autoworld forum, Lowyat.net forum lor... ahahaha... just advise them nia...

i met some ppl there and train them. some lady also... but now become macho... ahahaha... can see 6 pack on ABS... kekeke

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jealous of your 6-pack abs, mine look like a tub of lard :sick:

anak2 takde drum, use my tummy as gendang 'tabla', can cry like that one...

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

jealous of your 6-pack abs, mine look like a tub of lard :sick:

anak2 takde drum, use my tummy as gendang 'tabla', can cry like that one...
Luckily he is not into playing flute. Which body part then. Kakaka!!!

[noname]

ahahaha. Nazlan, i didnt say i have 6 packs. if u read carefully, the 6 packs is belong to one of my gang, female... :D

now i have only 4 packs but not visible due to bulk up stage. will go on diet when i reach to certain weight and then focus to train on abs to get another 2 abs...

[siewjang]

Noname, other than the 6 pack, what can we achieve from gym? I've thought after my delivery I will go for gym to tone up my buttock :o . Can it work?

[noname]

yes, you can tone your ur buttock. u have to work on ur lower part of ur body...

[jerrychoo2004]

a tummy which looks like a tube of lard also nvm la
can let the gf treat it like a pillow to hug...... :laugh:

[athena]

a tummy which looks like a tube of lard also nvm la
can let the gf treat it like a pillow to hug...... :laugh:
bet that's what KoChun tells his GF!! :laugh:

[KoChun]

bet that's what KoChun tells his GF!! :laugh:
I tried not to post in this thread, now fail liao because my name kena mentioned here out of no where.

Athena, my gf told you, is it? :D

[WitchKing]

a tummy which looks like a tube of lard also nvm la
can let the gf treat it like a pillow to hug...... :laugh:

....and thus this is how us 'prosperous' tummy-ed forummers comfort ourselves .... :rolleyes:

[noname]

i think kochun gf oledi immune liao lor... she now treat kuchun tummy as pillow...

[siewjang]

yes, you can tone your ur buttock. u have to work on ur lower part of ur body...
oh, that means benefit my flabby stomach also issit? Which gym is good. I'm working in TTDI and the nearest is the one in One Utama. Expensive or not ah?

[noname]

jang, if u r free, i can bring u in to Celebrity Fitness and test it out for one day... im currently join celebrity fitness at one utama... convenience for me as not pack as fitness first at Uptown... *isk*

the fee is RM149 per month, they have lots of class, more than FF (i think) so give yourself a try. FF membership is around RM175 for homeuser... kinda expensive if you didnt utilise their equipment :D

you can work out ur abs too... to have 6 packs :D

[siewjang]

Wah RM149 :amazed: how about enrolment fee? and bla, bla?

[siewjang]

....you can work out ur abs too... to have 6 packs :D
my aim is at the buttock and tummy trim. 6 packs..yikes :sick: doesn't look good for a women.

[athena]

my aim is at the buttock and tummy trim. 6 packs..yikes :sick: doesn't look good for a women.
hehe me too..wanna trim those area...:)

[siewjang]

Anyway, we have nothing to showoff the 6 packs unless we can allowed topless at home :D

[athena]

Anyway, we have nothing to showoff the 6 packs unless we can allowed topless at home :D
can wear bikini at the beachmah!!! no need to be topless:D

[noname]

aiyo, no need topless lah. u wear gym top will do... show ur abs to other gal.. and they will feel envy. ahahaha.

enrollment fee... im not sure yet. do you want the info? i'll go and ask them if you want me to...

some info that my sifu listed out for me...

TF - True Fitness(Leisure Place, equipment don't know yet)
FF - Fitness First(Leisure Place, 90% fully equipped)
CF - Celebrity Gym(Leisure Place, 80% fully equipped)
Cf - California Gym(Leisure Place, 90% fully equipped)
GG - Golds Gym(Not so Leisure Place, 95% fully equipped)
WG - Worlds Gym(Not so Leisure Place, 95% fully equipped)
OG - Our Gym(Not Leisure Place, equipments don't know)
MG - Muscle Gym(Very Un-Leisure Place, 100% fully equipped)
CH - Clark Hatch(Very Leisure Place, 50% fully equipped)
SC - Sweat Club(Leisure Place, 90% fully equipped)

[WitchKing]

can wear bikini at the beachmah!!! no need to be topless:D

'can encourage toplessness at home :p (when the kids are asleep of course)...<setan Nazlan sudah keluar dah>..can feel the witchking taking over.... Malam Jumaat tonite hee hee thats why :laugh:

Seriously , when I was in KDU couple of us guys joined a rumah kedai gym somewhere at SS2, below the gym was a vegetarian restaurant. It only costs (then) RM30 a month, but no air conlah, you sweat it out 'old school'. but it was cheap and worth it. mebbe you dont need to spend that much moolahs to get the kinds of body you want ??

[athena]

'can encourage toplessness at home :p (when the kids are asleep of course)...<setan Nazlan sudah keluar dah>..can feel the witchking taking over.... Malam Jumaat tonite hee hee thats why :laugh:

Seriously , when I was in KDU couple of us guys joined a rumah kedai gym somewhere at SS2, below the gym was a vegetarian restaurant. It only costs (then) RM30 a month, but no air conlah, you sweat it out 'old school'. but it was cheap and worth it. mebbe you dont need to spend that much moolahs to get the kinds of body you want ??
topless at home? not good idea....last time, my coursemates, all guys of course, they rented a house opposite to one newly weds..the wife, after work, would come home, strip to her bra and briefs....then start cleaning to whole house...haha..see, there are 'eyes' that you can't see!!!!

[siewjang]

Noname, I'll pm you once i'm convenient to do so. Anyway, thanks for the info.

[noname]

ss2... ahaha. the place is sucks... my friends been there before. old equipment and not complete set... tt's why is cheap...

you will need multiple types of equipment to train specific part of the body...

[noname]

ahaha. maybe that time i also forget liao coz have to wait for you to gave birth and rest for few month before gym... you need someone to push u.

perhap i can ask my fiance to teman u to train together...

[athena]

ahaha. maybe that time i also forget liao coz have to wait for you to gave birth and rest for few month before gym... you need someone to push u.

perhap i can ask my fiance to teman u to train together...
wah LT, begitu cepat u thinking of menyambungkan zuriat keluarga Kong!

[siewjang]

ahaha. maybe that time i also forget liao coz have to wait for you to gave birth and rest for few month before gym... you need someone to push u.

perhap i can ask my fiance to teman u to train together...
Not long la. Just give me 2 months time from now. Who is your fiance?

[WitchKing]

ss2... ahaha. the place is sucks... my friends been there before. old equipment and not complete set... tt's why is cheap...

you will need multiple types of equipment to train specific part of the body...

well, it WAS just 30 bucks :) Kolej student that time where got money spilling out of pocket, just moth and flies. :laugh:

[LiLiaN]

all these talk about gym makes me feel guilty... haven't been there for the past couple of months... :o

[noname]

wah LT, begitu cepat u thinking of menyambungkan zuriat keluarga Kong!
weiii, apa tu zuriat kong ahhh... no lah... where got???

[noname]

Not long la. Just give me 2 months time from now. Who is your fiance?
when u deliver, if you dun mind im asking? :D

my fiance, hmmm... u havent see me or my gf before... but siewhaw, kimmy and athena saw before... kekeke...

[noname]

well, it WAS just 30 bucks :) Kolej student that time where got money spilling out of pocket, just moth and flies. :laugh:
aiyah, dun just pay RM30 and do minimal exercise... not worth lah. might as well pay more to get more benefit... plus all guys in gym go there kap lui one... *isk*...

[noname]

lilian,
u dun have to feel guilty over it. now get ur bum out of your chair and head to gym now... kekeke... :D

[jerrychoo2004]

wah gym also a place to kap lui ah?
really man now everywhere guys also can go kap lui
too bad i am not into gym
i used to play football a lot ut no girls to see one :squeeze:

[LiLiaN]

lilian,
u dun have to feel guilty over it. now get ur bum out of your chair and head to gym now... kekeke... :Dno lar, just lots of work recently, plus time to forum and to blog and to read and to cook and to attend extra classes... but most days i'm trying to be good by walking to and fro work... about 20 minutes walk each way, not bad really...

[siewjang]

when u deliver, if you dun mind im asking? :D

my fiance, hmmm... u havent see me or my gf before... but siewhaw, kimmy and athena saw before... kekeke...
I will due around 1st week of April. Post up pic la.

[noname]

jang, wah, wer can simply post up the pics one??? i nv post my pics to anyone before unless i know them... :P

ask ur sister, ahhaw... she will tell u... slim slim, same height with me... 53KG...long hair...

[noname]

no lar, just lots of work recently, plus time to forum and to blog and to read and to cook and to attend extra classes... but most days i'm trying to be good by walking to and fro work... about 20 minutes walk each way, not bad really...
i read from net saying that walking to opis (from/to) is not consider as exercise coz you are walking at slightly higher than normal heart rate. thus, not conclude as exercise.

[athena]

jang, wah, wer can simply post up the pics one??? i nv post my pics to anyone before unless i know them... :P

ask ur sister, ahhaw... she will tell u... slim slim, same height with me... 53KG...long hair...
ur gal 53kgs??!!!

[noname]

ok. need to go back now...

tonight my fiance trying out baju at pengantin shop... so will answer ur question tomorrow.... tatta!

[siewjang]

Have a nice day.

Wei, tell your gf 53kg is dem heavy la. :D

[WitchKing]

wah gym also a place to kap lui ah?
really man now everywhere guys also can go kap lui
too bad i am not into gym
i used to play football a lot ut no girls to see one :squeeze:

OFF TOPIC...had to be a member of this here forum to learn abt 'pang sai' and 'kap lui', will wonders never cease.

ON TOPIC...so do these 'premium gyms' carry programs in the event you have certain 'target areas' you wanna work on, do these cost extra ???

[noname]

Have a nice day.

Wei, tell your gf 53kg is dem heavy la. :D
jang,
53KG is not heavy... as long your body fat is around 15%...

if your bf is higher than it, then 53KG weight is consider heavy liao... i'll personally train my gf to become little bit macho... :D

[noname]

OFF TOPIC...had to be a member of this here forum to learn abt 'pang sai' and 'kap lui', will wonders never cease.

ON TOPIC...so do these 'premium gyms' carry programs in the event you have certain 'target areas' you wanna work on, do these cost extra ???
majority gym have personal trainer for you (FOC). for e.g. in FF. when you join, sometimes they will ask you what is your motive joining the gym. you have to fill in the form and submit to them so that they know. the motive can be, be muscular / tone muscle / cut bf / knowing more friends / know more female / male... and etc...

if you put want to know more friends, then the staff there will put focus on you but indirectly they will somehow having bad thought of you.. joining gym purpose is to kap lui. aahahahaha... :D

anyway, once you join, you are given a one time personal trainer to train you. from there, the trainer will measure your heart rate, doing cardio and carry weight... according to the target you set earlier on. they will guide you but i personally dun belief them lor... some trainer is sucks... teaching wrong movement yet so LCLY.

[janicejoy]

eh no name - help me count my bf lah. I pm you can ah...what do i have to give you again?

[kamkuey]

53kg does not necessarily mean heavy. Must consider height also. Too thin not nice. Nothing to hug... muahahahaha

[noname]

yup, weight/height/bf does the matter... if you are heavy like 50KG but your height is around 160cm... and bf is more than 20%... then i can say is FATTTTTTT....

[noname]

very hard to count lah... i need to know your height, your weight and your bf... then only can know whethe u r fat or not...

[Voon Chan]

very hard to count lah... i need to know your height, your weight and your bf... then only can know whethe u r fat or not...I am 175cm, weight 72.5kg, please help me to calculate.
Sex: Male.

Thank you

[WitchKing]

I am 175cm, weight 72.5kg, please help me to calculate. Thank you

I am 172, weight 81, plse help me 2.

[KoChun]

I am 122cm, weight 122kg too. Pleeeeeeeease help me!!! :p

[Voon Chan]

I am 122cm, weight 122kg too. Pleeeeeeeease help me!!! :p
NO need to calculate, No cure liao! calculate also waste time

[noname]

some information...

Body Type Female Male
Athlete <17% <10%
Lean 17-22% 10-15%
Normal 22-25% 15-18%
Above Average 25-29% 18-20%
Overfat 29-35% 20-25%
Obese 35+% 25+%

ACSM Standards Fitness Health
Female (< 40 years) 16-28% 20-35%
Female (< 40 years) 16-33% 20-38%
Male (< 40 years) 5-15% 8-22%
Male (> 40 years) 5-18% 8-25%

[noname]

give me your weight, height, age, gender... i can roughly calculate ur body mass for you... as for body fat... kinda hard to count...

[Voon Chan]

give me your weight, height, age, gender... i can roughly calculate ur body mass for you... as for body fat... kinda hard to count...I am 175cm, weight 72.5kg, Sex: Male., Age: 35

[noname]

I am 175cm, weight 72.5kg, Sex: Male., Age: 35
voon chan,
you are safe...

your body mass index is 23.7 kg/m2... majority ppl choice of ideal weight is 71KG...

i cant calculate your body fat... if i saw you, then roughly i can see how many % bf u have...

[noname]

some infor...

BMI

Risk for Weight Related Health Problems

20 - 25 Very Low Risk
26 - 30 Low Risk
31 - 35 Moderate Risk
36 - 40 High Risk
40 + Very High Risk

Body Mass Index (BMI) is one of the most accurate ways to determine when extra pounds put your health at risk. Experts use BMI as a measure for "healthy weight" because people with a higher percentage of body fat tend to have a higher BMI. BMI is defined as body weight (in kilograms) divided by height (in meters squared). A BMI score of 20 - 25 is associated with the lowest health risk based solely on BMI scores. A BMI of 25 or greater is considered overweight. A BMI of 30 or greater is considered obese, and a BMI of 40 or greater is considered extremely obese. BMI scores are inaccurate for athletes and body builders, whose BMI is high due to increased muscle mass, and women who are pregnant or lactating.

The higher the BMI, the greater the risk of developing health problems such as:

Heart Disease
Hyperlipidemia (High cholesterol)
Diabetes
Stroke
Gallbladder Disease
Some Cancers
Sleep Apnea
Hypertension (High Blood Pressure
Osteoarthritis
Increased Risk of Death

In addition to BMI, a waist circumference of greater than 35 inches for women and 40 inches for men is considered a risk factor for these health problems. Weight carried in the lower body is less risky.

have fun...

[WitchKing]

I am 175cm, weight 72.5kg, Sex: Male., Age: 35

Me 172, 81, Male, Age 35 aso. Mintak tolong kirakan.

[Voon Chan]

voon chan,
you are safe...

your body mass index is 23.7 kg/m2... majority ppl choice of ideal weight is 71KG...

i cant calculate your body fat... if i saw you, then roughly i can see how many % bf u have...Thank you! I am at the save side! I will bring my weight down to 71kg then

[noname]

Me 172, 81, Male, Age 35 aso. Mintak tolong kirakan.
your BMI is 27.4kg/m2 ... and your ideal weight should be around 75KG...

[WitchKing]

your BMI is 27.4kg/m2 ... and your ideal weight should be around 75KG...

...have some lard to shave off :sad-2: Thanks noname.

[Voon Chan]

noname, thank your for this thread. This is a good thread. It is educational. Hope everyone will stay healthy

[Voon Chan]

...have some lard to shave off :sad-2: Thanks noname.Nazlan, kita sama-sama pegi "No-gym" sahajalah. Itu pun kita dah member lama di sana. Sekarang kita sudah patron . Betul tak?

[noname]

the mass index is also included your bf content...

do go and buy some gadget to measure your bf... i have 2 in 1 gadget... to measure weight and bf together...(digital).. cost me RM300++... ok nia model. if even higher range model, can cost more than 1K...

from your body fat, you can know how many KG fat in your body and how many KG muscle mass in your body :D...

nazlan,
from what i see, i think you have extra water retention in your body. go to sauna (pls dun wet your body, go in dry) and stay for around 7 to 8 mins will do. DO it for around 1 week plus and you can see your weight will drop at least 1 to 3KG...

[noname]

last time my weight is 53KG and height is 169cm... very skinny fella. after join gym and train hard, my weight now is 68KG++...

i once reach to 70KG++ and then i start to diet... gym diet way... i ate chicken meat (tasteless), 30 eggs white per day, 1 to 2 cans of tuna in junk water, 2 slices of fiber bread, 4 biji of potatoes and some etc...

my weight drop on:
1st week - 2KG
2nd week - 1.5KG
3rd week - 1KG
4th week - 0.5 to 1KG
5th week - 0.5KG

that time ahhh, wah, can see muscle, abs... sooo niceeee... :D

[noname]

noname, thank your for this thread. This is a good thread. It is educational. Hope everyone will stay healthy
voon chan,
im not as great as my sifu or other out there. there are other who can contribute like gar loon... he also into gym...

and one of the class 1996 fella, become Fitness first gym instructor... kekeke... many more to come... :D

[athena]

last time my weight is 53KG and height is 169cm... very skinny fella. after join gym and train hard, my weight now is 68KG++...

i once reach to 70KG++ and then i start to diet... gym diet way... i ate chicken meat (tasteless), 30 eggs white per day, 1 to 2 cans of tuna in junk water, 2 slices of fiber bread, 4 biji of potatoes and some etc...

my weight drop on:
1st week - 2KG
2nd week - 1.5KG
3rd week - 1KG
4th week - 0.5 to 1KG
5th week - 0.5KG

that time ahhh, wah, can see muscle, abs... sooo niceeee... :D
isn't that way too much?

[Voon Chan]

last time my weight is 53KG and height is 169cm... very skinny fella. after join gym and train hard, my weight now is 68KG++...

i once reach to 70KG++ and then i start to diet... gym diet way... i ate chicken meat (tasteless), 30 eggs white per day, 1 to 2 cans of tuna in junk water, 2 slices of fiber bread, 4 biji of potatoes and some etc...

my weight drop on:
1st week - 2KG
2nd week - 1.5KG
3rd week - 1KG
4th week - 0.5 to 1KG
5th week - 0.5KG

that time ahhh, wah, can see muscle, abs... sooo niceeee... :Dyou will have a lot of uric acid in your body.

[siewjang]

.....
from what i see, i think you have extra water retention in your body. go to sauna (pls dun wet your body, go in dry) and stay for around 7 to 8 mins will do. DO it for around 1 week plus and you can see your weight will drop at least 1 to 3KG...
Is there a different? Didn't know that. If someone wanted to lose weight, that means they have to go in dry. What will we get if someone goes in wet? What is the time requirement for someone to stay in the sauna? How about temperature wise?

[siewjang]

isn't that way too much?
Athena, that is not much. As I have mentioned in one of the thread, that is the method used by Atkins diet. Many ppl think I'm talking nonsense. :( Of course you don't eat 30 eggs at one go. 30 eggs per day.

[athena]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/lilwan/pyramid2.gif

i always tot, healthy eating is suppose to follow the food guide pyramid? no ah?

[athena]

Athena, that is not much. As I have mentioned in one of the thread, that is the method used by Atkins diet. Many ppl think I'm talking nonsense. :( Of course you don't eat 30 eggs at one go. 30 eggs per day.
atkin's diet ah? hmm..i think that diet is dangerous la...taxing the body toomuch...entirely cut off carbo...not a good idea!

[siewjang]

Of course when you are over weight and trying to slim down, you shouldn't take too much carbohydrat. You should take more fibre and protein. that pyramid is only a guide.

[WitchKing]

the mass index is also included your bf content...

do go and buy some gadget to measure your bf... i have 2 in 1 gadget... to measure weight and bf together...(digital).. cost me RM300++... ok nia model. if even higher range model, can cost more than 1K...

from your body fat, you can know how many KG fat in your body and how many KG muscle mass in your body :D...

nazlan,
from what i see, i think you have extra water retention in your body. go to sauna (pls dun wet your body, go in dry) and stay for around 7 to 8 mins will do. DO it for around 1 week plus and you can see your weight will drop at least 1 to 3KG...

That is very helpful to know, noname. Will do as suggested.

[Voon Chan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/lilwan/pyramid2.gif

i always tot, healthy eating is suppose to follow the food guide pyramid? no ah?turn the pyramid around, that is Atkin's diet. With protien up

Dangerous? A lot of debate going on now

[siewjang]

atkin's diet ah? hmm..i think that diet is dangerous la...taxing the body toomuch...entirely??? cut off carbo...not a good idea!
That is only for the 1st two weeks. After that will be white meat. For Atkins diet, you don't cut down on food entirely. You have to reduce them bit by bits.

[siewjang]

turn the pyramid around, that is Atkin's diet. With protien up

Dangerous? A lot of debate going on now
Excuse me, bread is carbo. Anything make of flour is carbo. In Atkins you don't eat white bread but high fibre bread.

[athena]

Brigid McKevith, a nutrition scientist at the British Nutrition Foundation (BNF), said, "We welcome the fact that the Atkins diet is being studied scientifically and that randomised controlled studies have been carried out, because it's very popular with the public."

However, she expressed concern at the small number of people studied and the high drop-out rate, as well as a number of key safety questions that are still left unanswered. "There are several potential problems with the Atkins diet. These include long term bone health, as with a very high protein intake the excretions of calcium increase, so there could be implications for the health of bones," she explained.

"There could be difficulties for people who have an underlying problem with their kidneys or liver, because it would be putting more strain on those organs, and problems in terms of heart disease too, as it's a diet very low in fruits and vegetables. Also, it's very low in fibre, so in terms of digestive health, it's not in keeping with our fibre and complex carbohydrate recommendations."

Belinda Linden, head of medical information at the British Heart Foundation, holds similar views. "The new studies do not indicate a dramatic weight loss for excessively obese people," she said. "Previous studies have shown that weight loss from the Atkins Diet may involve muscle loss rather than body fat. Another potential problem is that it is so far unclear from studies whether weight loss is sustained over a longer period than six months. One of the studies shows no significant difference at 12 months."

She added that, "With minimal fruit and vegetables included in the diet, it holds serious implications for coronary heart disease and cancer. Diets need to be varied to protect against these conditions - and this one isn't. This diet requires further long term and larger studies before its effectiveness can be confirmed."

[Voon Chan]

Excuse me, Veg, high fibre bread & alot of thing is also carbo. Just that the content of fiber & carbo is lower or protien higher. No carbo, think again

[siewjang]

Excuse me, I am talking about the 30 eggs for the 1st two weeks. Not thru out the diet period. Duhh............

[noname]

isn't that way too much?
athena,
this is not called too much lah... for my weight and size, consider good liao... you havent see my sifu, can reduce the weight by 1 to 2 KG per day... is all depend to you body system... your metaphorism... your heart rate and etc...

[Voon Chan]

Excuse me, I am talking about the 30 eggs for the 1st two weeks. Not thru out the diet period. Duhh............Look at you previous posting, you were talking about bread.

[siewjang]

VC, please refer to posting #97

[noname]

oiii oiii... dun argue lah.

some ppl might take it differently lah. i ownself experience this type of diet, i have the diet plan listing out how many calorie intake i need, how many carbo i need, how many protein i need daily...

the 30egg is per day... separate it out to 6 meals... so roughyl 5 eggs per meal... same goes to potatoes and bread and etc...

there are 2 ways of diet we take (for my gym gang)... one is the normal diet i do but not really effective enough. another one is called CKD... this diet is currently taking by my sifu and it is not easy to adapt into this dieting, is almost zero carbo.... less than 30g carbo intake per day...

wat is ckd? A cyclical Ketogenic diet is a low carbohydrate diet that induces a metabolic state known as ketosis and includes a period of high carbohydrate eating to replenish glycogen stores depleted by exercise....

remember not everyone can adapt it... this is dangerous...

wat jang said is true... many ppl will think wat i said is nonsense but if you really go into diet, then you have to minimise your muscle loss and maximise your fat loss... this is gym kaki way...

if you just go on diet and loss every, dun care about muscle, then i would say better dun diet coz you will be starting all over again... :D

[noname]

for dieting (gym), we need a lot of protein daily.. i need at least 200g of protein everyday to make my muscle grow... i have to eat well, sleep well and train well. if you dun eat well during diet time (i mean skip meal), then probably you'll burn the muscle mass too...

rmr... when your body oledi used out all the carbo/energy, your body will trigger to get the carbo from fat if you used 55 to 65% of your heart rate. if you do more, the body will simply go to muscle mass and convert it into energy. it is much more easily convert muscle mass into energy compare to fat...

a lot thing need to go through and understand it...

note: this is applicable to gym fella. if you are old or have weak heart, PLS DO NOT FOLLOW THIS... it might danger your life...

[piglet]

anyone here going to gym or not?

1) Fitness First
2) Sweat Club
3) Celebrity Fitness
4) Club Hatch
5) California Fitness

and etc...

wanna go as a group? me wanna to train ppl to do gym liao... help them to cut down fat, tone up muscle and teach them basic weight lifting... :D

currently i join celebrity fitness with my gang... a bantam weight lifting champion... :D

if u give free membership we will consider

[piglet]

oiii oiii... dun argue lah.

some ppl might take it differently lah. i ownself experience this type of diet, i have the diet plan listing out how many calorie intake i need, how many carbo i need, how many protein i need daily...

the 30egg is per day... separate it out to 6 meals... so roughyl 5 eggs per meal... same goes to potatoes and bread and etc...

there are 2 ways of diet we take (for my gym gang)... one is the normal diet i do but not really effective enough. another one is called CKD... this diet is currently taking by my sifu and it is not easy to adapt into this dieting, is almost zero carbo.... less than 30g carbo intake per day...

wat is ckd? A cyclical Ketogenic diet is a low carbohydrate diet that induces a metabolic state known as ketosis and includes a period of high carbohydrate eating to replenish glycogen stores depleted by exercise....

remember not everyone can adapt it... this is dangerous...

wat jang said is true... many ppl will think wat i said is nonsense but if you really go into diet, then you have to minimise your muscle loss and maximise your fat loss... this is gym kaki way...

if you just go on diet and loss every, dun care about muscle, then i would say better dun diet coz you will be starting all over again... :D

heard from a gym instructor that wanted to join body building competition, he ate around 30 eggs per day, and gave all egg yolks to his dog. After some time, his dog die of high cholestrol.

[noname]

heard from a gym instructor that wanted to join body building competition, he ate around 30 eggs per day, and gave all egg yolks to his dog. After some time, his dog die of high cholestrol.
yes, i dun take the egg yolks, i throw it away... i only take egg white ...

[song cm]

some infor...

BMI

Risk for Weight Related Health Problems

20 - 25 Very Low Risk
26 - 30 Low Risk
31 - 35 Moderate Risk
36 - 40 High Risk
40 + Very High Risk



Noname, i think the BMI calc above is abit too lenient....more suitable for ppl with bigger bones like kwailoh....

My BMI is 25 (h-178, w-79) but I would think that my ideal weight should be ard 76kg....

[athena]

heard from a gym instructor that wanted to join body building competition, he ate around 30 eggs per day, and gave all egg yolks to his dog. After some time, his dog die of high cholestrol.
hahah piglet, this is so funny!

[WitchKing]

heard from a gym instructor that wanted to join body building competition, he ate around 30 eggs per day, and gave all egg yolks to his dog. After some time, his dog die of high cholestrol.

the poor, poor doggie :crying:

[song cm]

the poor, poor doggie :crying:

i guess u could call that as price of vanity.....

[athena]

i guess u could call that as price of vanity.....
vanity? his doggie died not him!!!

[song cm]

vanity? his doggie died not him!!!

haha...price of vanity as a BIG picture...ie surely he love his dog, mah....

[athena]

haha...price of vanity as a BIG picture...ie surely he love his dog, mah....
okok....hmmm talking abt diet....there was an arguement on atkins diet....what do you all think?

[WitchKing]

vanity? his doggie died not him!!!


You guyz ah..sometime really make me laugh sawan babi one with
your banters !!! :laugh: :laugh:

[song cm]

okok....hmmm talking abt diet....there was an arguement on atkins diet....what do you all think?

i always believe in moderation...so, for me atkins is def a little extreme, esp in Asian culture where carbo is an important staple food....somemore u talk abt hockchew ppl who can't live w/o rice....
So, for me, u still can take carbo...but in moderation....

I actually lost 5kg last year when I started to cut down on my carbo (but not completely...).....sad to say I hv also gain some back since CNY.....

[athena]

i agree with u...moderation should be the key. not take it to one extreme...;)

[song cm]

You guyz ah..sometime really make me laugh sawan babi one with
your banters !!! :laugh: :laugh:

haha...u oredi certified addict, anythin in this forum aso is funny to u...haha :D

[noname]

yup, u guys are correct. take it or leave it. the dieting is just for average type of ppl, didnt mean it will suit you 100%. give and that lah...

[monay]

Diet? I think no diet is da best. When u go on diet, your body goes into starvation mode and tried very hard to conserve energy. So when u eat normally agian, it tries to store everything. Oso when u diet, u tend to be obsessed with food and when too hungry, tend to rebound eat a lot.
My personal experience, after my first baby, wanted to lose weight, try to eat less, exercise, and it was frustrating that my weight was still the same adn i was so hungry. later, when i forgot about it and ate normally, the pounds just came off. So after my second baby, i ate what i like, and the weight came off (like it seems, faster....)

[athena]

Diet? I think no diet is da best. When u go on diet, your body goes into starvation mode and tried very hard to conserve energy. So when u eat normally agian, it tries to store everything. Oso when u diet, u tend to be obsessed with food and when too hungry, tend to rebound eat a lot.
My personal experience, after my first baby, wanted to lose weight, try to eat less, exercise, and it was frustrating that my weight was still the same adn i was so hungry. later, when i forgot about it and ate normally, the pounds just came off. So after my second baby, i ate what i like, and the weight came off (like it seems, faster....)
jealous la me .....i hope next time when i have my kids i'll be like u!! :D

[song cm]

Diet? I think no diet is da best. When u go on diet, your body goes into starvation mode and tried very hard to conserve energy. So when u eat normally agian, it tries to store everything. Oso when u diet, u tend to be obsessed with food and when too hungry, tend to rebound eat a lot.
My personal experience, after my first baby, wanted to lose weight, try to eat less, exercise, and it was frustrating that my weight was still the same adn i was so hungry. later, when i forgot about it and ate normally, the pounds just came off. So after my second baby, i ate what i like, and the weight came off (like it seems, faster....)

i guess when u mean eat wat u like, u aso mean eat in moderation....
like i say, no need to go thru the extreme...jus eat in moderation but the most important thing is noooooo snacking.....eat 3 proper meals....

[monay]

then tell me whether it works or not.....

[noname]

Noname, i think the BMI calc above is abit too lenient....more suitable for ppl with bigger bones like kwailoh....

My BMI is 25 (h-178, w-79) but I would think that my ideal weight should be ard 76kg....
the BMI chart is a average benchmark for ppl. didnt mean it is 100% accurate. even when i do calculation for Nazlan and VC. is not 100% accurate... give and that...

if your ideal weight is 76KG, it didnt mean that you are not fat. probably (example only ahh) you have more fat in your body rather than muscle mass. tt's why you are heavy.

if you are body builder, your body mass should be higher than your body fat. all those body builder who joined competition like Arnold competition, weider competition, all their body fat is less than 8%... majority is body mass...

if you are slim and yet you know your body fat is high, then i would say it is fat lor... tt's why it is important to know how many BF% you have. from there you will know roughly how many muscle mass you have...

[monay]

i guess when u mean eat wat u like, u aso mean eat in moderation....
like i say, no need to go thru the extreme...jus eat in moderation but the most important thing is noooooo snacking.....eat 3 proper meals....

yeah, in moderation... i missed that word...

[athena]

then tell me whether it works or not.....
haha.monay, long time more la...hehe..i'm not even married :D haha..but if the forum is still around when my kids comes along, i'll let ya know ;0

[song cm]

yeah, in moderation... i missed that word...

haha...so funnie, I have seen ur posting but i hv yet to say hi to u...

Hi Mona, don know whether u remember me or not.....

[Voon Chan]

noname, Thank you for your detail explanation on BMI. Now everything seem to be clearer,

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

me small time gym fellow. noname is the real hardcore. myself now just maintaining my body weight around the 70kg zone. For a height of 182cm consider ok weight lor. tried beefing up last year but too much work, money and dicipine involve. once you slow down, everything turn into fat.

my workout mainly concentrate on chest and back only. gives you good posture. tummy area still banyak susah. when you do sit-ups correctly, the burning pain can be quite extreme. however, good way to get rid of the spare tyre, three important areas you need to do. (1) diet (2) weight training (3) cardio. doing sit ups and crunches are additional benefits. take less carbo and salty food. cut down on beer and alchohol. don't eat too much for dinner. don't bath right after you eat. that's what i do lor.

some people i know even wear belt and tighten it to go to sleep so that the muscles around your tummy areas are not stretched. that is why we get big tummy because the muscles around the tummy cannot support the load.

[WitchKing]

anybody here know how much liposuction cost roughly? (just suck that frickin lardbelt round the waist outta there!)

[noname]

Diet? I think no diet is da best. When u go on diet, your body goes into starvation mode and tried very hard to conserve energy. So when u eat normally agian, it tries to store everything. Oso when u diet, u tend to be obsessed with food and when too hungry, tend to rebound eat a lot.
My personal experience, after my first baby, wanted to lose weight, try to eat less, exercise, and it was frustrating that my weight was still the same adn i was so hungry. later, when i forgot about it and ate normally, the pounds just came off. So after my second baby, i ate what i like, and the weight came off (like it seems, faster....)
monay,
ok. let's me explain wat is diet mean for gym builder. gym diet is totally different from those ladies type of diet.

majority ppl diet, they eat less, eat salad and etc will reduce their weight but it is wrong. gym term of diet is you MUST EAT WELL, SLEEP WELL AND TRAIN WELL. we eat like normal. we just eat those clean food without ajinomoto, preserver flavour and eat plain food. that's why you have failed in dieting because you dont know how many calorie intake you need daily...

i need around 2,500cal intake per day. from the calorie, calculate how many protein you need, carbo you need and etc... very details if i go through. i ownself calculate wat i need to eat per day until i fulfill the 2,500 cal intake. then you wont go hungry.

advise: if you taking clean food straight away... your body wont take it. you have to slowly went into clean food and then pure clean food. if you're on 2nd or 3rd week of clean food and suddenly makan outside food, you will vomit coz your body cannot take it... i kena before... so adjust your daily intake food...

majority when i see my friends (lady) went to gym for the last few months, i didnt see changes in her... coz when she finish gym, she whack the food... so back to square one again...

[song cm]

me small time gym fellow. noname is the real hardcore. myself now just maintaining my body weight around the 70kg zone. For a height of 182cm consider ok weight lor. tried beefing up last year but too much work, money and dicipine involve. once you slow down, everything turn into fat.

my workout mainly concentrate on chest and back only. gives you good posture. tummy area still banyak susah. when you do sit-ups correctly, the burning pain can be quite extreme. however, good way to get rid of the spare tyre, three important areas you need to do. (1) diet (2) weight training (3) cardio. doing sit ups and crunches are additional benefits. take less carbo and salty food. cut down on beer and alchohol. don't eat too much for dinner. don't bath right after you eat. that's what i do lor.

some people i know even wear belt and tighten it to go to sleep so that the muscles around your tummy areas are not stretched. that is why we get big tummy because the muscles around the tummy cannot support the load.

hmm...very good advice....yeah, u r rite, those 6 packs are really hard to built....actually the prob is some ppl do have 6 packs, it is jus dat u can't see them as there is a layer of fat situated there, so the muscles can't be seen...
hmm...I am not sure the rationale of not taking ur bath after dinner...can u explain dat part?

[monay]

haha...so funnie, I have seen ur posting but i hv yet to say hi to u...

Hi Mona, don know whether u remember me or not.....

course i remember u, SNL brother, but 3/4 years my junior.. i see u r married with 2 kids, where is your sis?

[song cm]

anybody here know how much liposuction cost roughly? (just suck that frickin lardbelt round the waist outta there!)

hey...Lan, i heard this procedure can be dem painful one..... :(

[monay]

Song cm, but my memory of u is when u were a teenager. How about posting in now and then thread, pulezzzz?

[Voon Chan]

monay, we followed the same principle "See Food diet",eat as you see. It is a fantastic diet.

[song cm]

course i remember u, SNL brother, but 3/4 years my junior.. i see u r married with 2 kids, where is your sis?

yeap...2 rascals....speeding up my ageing process....

SNL is in KL, married with 1 son, she is attached to Clarins...
Btw, where are u?

[noname]

me small time gym fellow. noname is the real hardcore. myself now just maintaining my body weight around the 70kg zone. For a height of 182cm consider ok weight lor. tried beefing up last year but too much work, money and dicipine involve. once you slow down, everything turn into fat.

my workout mainly concentrate on chest and back only. gives you good posture. tummy area still banyak susah. when you do sit-ups correctly, the burning pain can be quite extreme. however, good way to get rid of the spare tyre, three important areas you need to do. (1) diet (2) weight training (3) cardio. doing sit ups and crunches are additional benefits. take less carbo and salty food. cut down on beer and alchohol. don't eat too much for dinner. don't bath right after you eat. that's what i do lor.

some people i know even wear belt and tighten it to go to sleep so that the muscles around your tummy areas are not stretched. that is why we get big tummy because the muscles around the tummy cannot support the load.
GL have the point here... you see... the main rules for dieting (gym term ahh) is to diet, train well and rest well. this fella also hardcord but now got commitment in work, thus his body shrink liao...

GL, if you dun mind im saying, you muscle mass is not enough. you still can boost up. from your height, your ideal weight should be 72 to 73KG and bf is less than 15%. then your body... fuiyooo... keng chau...

[monay]

i'm in LA, many many miles from home, that's why enjoy the food pics so much....

[monay]

monay, we followed the same principle "See Food diet",eat as you see. It is a fantastic diet.
couldn't agree with u more. say hi to yen min again for me and get her in,OK?

[WitchKing]

hey...Lan, i heard this procedure can be dem painful one..... :(

they can knock you out with anasthetics, cant they??

Once they suck the fat out of you in a plastic bag, can use 'em as tiki lamp fuel, and watch them fat burn with sick pleasure written all over your face everytime you have barbeque <..no 'sadistic smiley' to pick from here....)

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

hmm...very good advice....yeah, u r rite, those 6 packs are really hard to built....actually the prob is some ppl do have 6 packs, it is jus dat u can't see them as there is a layer of fat situated there, so the muscles can't be seen...
hmm...I am not sure the rationale of not taking ur bath after dinner...can u explain dat part?
you are absolutely right. everyone has six packs. maybe not the buldging type but it is there. we can't see it because the fat is covering it. all you need to do it get rid of that.

bathing after meals.........i just follow instructions. not too sure why but i think it has something to do with digestion.

[Voon Chan]

couldn't agree with u more. say hi to yen min again for me and get her in,OK?I will. Iwill try convince her. Take care

[athena]

they can knock you out with anasthetics, cant they??

Once they suck the fat out of you in a plastic bag, can use 'em as tiki lamp fuel, and watch them fat burn with sick pleasure written all over your face everytime you have barbeque <..no 'sadistic smiley' to pick from here....)
wah..use ur own body fat for lamp fuel...eeeWWWW!!!!

[song cm]

Song cm, but my memory of u is when u were a teenager. How about posting in now and then thread, pulezzzz?
ok...lemme see wat i can do this weekend...

[monay]

monay,
ok. let's me explain wat is diet mean for gym builder. gym diet is totally different from those ladies type of diet.



ty for your detailed explaination, i dun do gym either, so i guess i better buzz off from dis thread. no time for gym, so i walk everywhere, very fast.....

[noname]

guy are easily store up their fat on their tummy.

if you didnt go on DIET and keep on doing sit-ups, i GUARANTEE the fat around your tummy still there and you didnt see much improvement. this happen to my gym fella which i advise him but he dun belief me. he've been doing sit-ups for 4 times in a week for consequetive 3 months plus, until now he gave up coz he reduce anything ...

you see... when your fat is there, doing sit-ups wont burn your fat around your tummy. you only will increase your abs muscle nia. so when you increase your muscle abs yet the fat still there, can you see the 6 packs or not?? you probably see one big pack. maybe your tummy getting much more bigger coz your abs muscle is growing.

i personally seen my abs when i go on diet... wow... can smile when i managed to see 4 packs when my bf is around 18%. if cut down to 15%, then i can see 6 packs. hmm...

[song cm]

i'm in LA, many many miles from home, that's why enjoy the food pics so much....
wau...dats far....haha...i was in LA in 2001...could hv visited u then... ;)

[song cm]

they can knock you out with anasthetics, cant they??

Once they suck the fat out of you in a plastic bag, can use 'em as tiki lamp fuel, and watch them fat burn with sick pleasure written all over your face everytime you have barbeque <..no 'sadistic smiley' to pick from here....)

haha...the pain is after the event.....it wld last for weeks n weeks...somemore, worse if u start accumulating the fats again, if u hv no self control....

[song cm]

you are absolutely right. everyone has six packs. maybe not the buldging type but it is there. we can't see it because the fat is covering it. all you need to do it get rid of that.

bathing after meals.........i just follow instructions. not too sure why but i think it has something to do with digestion.

haha, or maybe is a Chinese superstition....

[Voon Chan]

haha...the pain is after the event.....it wld last for weeks n weeks...somemore, worse if u start accumulating the fats again, if u hv no self control....Song, have you tried it before? You seem to know a lot.

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

GL have the point here... you see... the main rules for dieting (gym term ahh) is to diet, train well and rest well. this fella also hardcord but now got commitment in work, thus his body shrink liao...

GL, if you dun mind im saying, you muscle mass is not enough. you still can boost up. from your height, your ideal weight should be 72 to 73KG and bf is less than 15%. then your body... fuiyooo... keng chau...
you are right. my ideal weight should be arounf 72/3 kg but been there didn't like the feeling so shrank back. don't want it to affect my mobility too much. some hardcore fellows look good when they are standing but when they start walking...........look real funny.

my problem is my shoulders. too narrow for my height so makes me look rather skinny (talking about the bone structure). noname you are blessed with good broad shoulders. after you have trained it enough............gila babi.

[monay]

wau...dats far....haha...i was in LA in 2001...could hv visited u then... ;)
next time oso canlaah, if i'm not back in m'sia by then....

[song cm]

guy are easily store up their fat on their tummy.

if you didnt go on DIET and keep on doing sit-ups, i GUARANTEE the fat around your tummy still there and you didnt see much improvement. this happen to my gym fella which i advise him but he dun belief me. he've been doing sit-ups for 4 times in a week for consequetive 3 months plus, until now he gave up coz he reduce anything ...

you see... when your fat is there, doing sit-ups wont burn your fat around your tummy. you only will increase your abs muscle nia. so when you increase your muscle abs yet the fat still there, can you see the 6 packs or not?? you probably see one big pack. maybe your tummy getting much more bigger coz your abs muscle is growing.

i personally seen my abs when i go on diet... wow... can smile when i managed to see 4 packs when my bf is around 18%. if cut down to 15%, then i can see 6 packs. hmm...

haha...u r rite....i use to go to gym durin my U days....was 178cm n 72kg then. was able to see results on my body except for the tummy part becoz i eat like a pig and drink somemore....

[song cm]

Song, have you tried it before? You seem to know a lot.
no...i watch extreme makeover and nip & tuck

[song cm]

noname, u r not married rite?

Hey, I forsee u will hv less time for gym once u are married n hv kids.... :p

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

noname, u r not married rite?

Hey, I forsee u will hv less time for gym once u are married n hv kids.... :p
that's right.............so that is why i cut down on mass building. otherwise later jialak.

[athena]

maybe noname can use his kids for weight training? :D

[WitchKing]

haha...the pain is after the event.....it wld last for weeks n weeks...somemore, worse if u start accumulating the fats again, if u hv no self control....


ohhh, i didnt know THAT. Ok kensel, kensel. Look like must do the hard way, or else take the highway.

Closest for me has to be 1 Utama, then. Need to get wife to buy into the idea. She oledi bising2 about my constant forumming, nanti i silap marketing about gym she think I nak buff up to impwess some forum PYTs. :confused:

[Voon Chan]

You guys in here are really serious in to all diet & gyms. I am not in to all this. IN 1987, I was about 68-69, today I am 72.5kg. You are what you eat. Gym to me is a great way of getting your body tone up.

Anyway, stay healthy everyone. That is one of the most important thing in our life?

[song cm]

that's right.............so that is why i cut down on mass building. otherwise later jialak.

true...mass building takes a lot of time and dedication....goin to gym for health n keep fit reason is totally diff.....

haha, i am waitin for my kids to be older so that i can start goin back to gym....now, I hv to resort to jogging as they are less time consuming....

[Voon Chan]

that's right.............so that is why i cut down on mass building. otherwise later jialak.Very smart of you GL

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

You guys in here are really serious in to all diet & gyms. I am not in to all this. IN 1987, I was about 68-69, today I am 72.5kg. You are what you eat. Gym to me is a great way of getting your body tone up.

Anyway, stay healthy everyone. That is one of the most important thing in our life?
MOTO of today..........eat well, rest well, s**t well.

[TingMS]

IN 1987, I was about 68-69, today I am 72.5kg. You are what you eat. Gym to me is a great way of getting your body tone up.



Sure you don;t belong to the spare tyre gang. :D

In 1986, I was around 50kg
Today, I am around 65-67kg

:laugh:

[song cm]

ohhh, i didnt know THAT. Ok kensel, kensel. Look like must do the hard way, or else take the highway.

Closest for me has to be 1 Utama, then. Need to get wife to buy into the idea. She oledi bising2 about my constant forumming, nanti i silap marketing about gym she think I nak buff up to impwess some forum PYTs. :confused:

haha...u so funnie...somemore, if i remember correctly, she fell for u durin ur gym days, rite??

haha :laugh:

[Voon Chan]

maybe noname can use his kids for weight training? :D
Athena, I agree with you. Me, my son was born 3kg, now he is 15kg. SO I carry 5 times more weight now. Good weight training right?

[monay]

Closest for me has to be 1 Utama, then. Need to get wife to buy into the idea. She oledi bising2 about my constant forumming, nanti i silap marketing about gym she think I nak buff up to impwess some forum PYTs. :confused:

that's what happened to my poor hubby, he started going to gym alone, then i bising bout him going to see some PYT, now he stop going. If anything happens to his health, he say, all your fault, u bising bout me going to gym to see PYT, so i stop..... so, mebe u take wifey along, she might enjoy the workout...

[athena]

Athena, I agree with you. Me, my son was born 3kg, now he is 15kg. SO I carry 5 times more weight now. Good weight training right?
cheap solution....plus ur kid gets a free ride each time...killing two birds with one stone ;)

[song cm]

Athena, I agree with you. Me, my son was born 3kg, now he is 15kg. SO I carry 5 times more weight now. Good weight training right?

haha...but bad for the back...... :D

[Voon Chan]

Sure you don;t belong to the spare tyre gang. :D

In 1986, I was around 50kg
Today, I am around 65-67kg :laugh:I remember exactly how you look last time. Very slim & fair. Now loke Indon & put on so much. Everybody will go through some changes.

[song cm]

Sure you don;t belong to the spare tyre gang. :D

In 1986, I was around 50kg
Today, I am around 65-67kg

:laugh:

TMS, sure u were so light back then? u did look pretty big to me...haha

anyway, 67kg still ok one...btw, how tall r u??

[song cm]

I remember exactly how you look last time. Very slim & fair. Now loke Indon & put on so much. Everybody will go through some changes.

haha...VC, u sure say wat u think....hey, be tactful lar abit... :p

[monay]

I remember exactly how you look last time. Very slim & fair.
yeah, i remember that too, lotsa golf ? oh missed that thread... how 'bout posting in now n then thread... (see me promoting tak terhenti-henti....)

[Voon Chan]

cheap solution....plus ur kid gets a free ride each time...killing two birds with one stone ;)Ath & song, my back is very important to me. Need to take care of it. Anyway, I have injured my back when I was very young due to a fall

[Voon Chan]

haha...VC, u sure say wat u think....hey, be tactful lar abit... :phappyghost, sorrylah! I just remembered what you have written in another thread

[TingMS]

TMS, sure u were so light back then? u did look pretty big to me...haha

anyway, 67kg still ok one...btw, how tall r u??

around 166cm

yes, i am that skinny then..

that is the reason why I was dubbed as a drug addict by my neighbours.. :laugh:

[song cm]

yeah, i remember that too, lotsa golf ? oh missed that thread... how 'bout posting in now n then thread... (see me promoting tak terhenti-henti....)
haha, monay, u r paid based on no of posting in dat thread isit?? :p

[WitchKing]

haha...u so funnie...somemore, if i remember correctly, she fell for u durin ur gym days, rite??

haha :laugh:


Dat wasnt her, it was a crazy/horny kolej woman/fren/flirt who suddenly got a overdose of love potion No. 9 during the late 80s. Only knew my wifey when I joined the paper chase in early 90s. But I more responsible now ;) (...couldnt find a 'saintly smiley' to put here.....)

[song cm]

Dat wasnt her, it was a crazy/horny kolej woman/fren/flirt who suddenly got a overdose of love potion No. 9 during the late 80s. Only knew my wifey when I joined the paper chase in early 90s. But I more responsible now ;) (...couldnt find a 'saintly smiley' to put here.....)

haha soli...thot ur wife was the crazy n horny person...haha :eek:

[song cm]

around 166cm

yes, i am that skinny then..

that is the reason why I was dubbed as a drug addict by my neighbours.. :laugh:

haha....i think you were too skiny for my sis...haha

[TingMS]

happyghost, sorrylah! I just remembered what you have written in another thread


Voon,

No problemo......

[Voon Chan]

Dat wasnt her, it was a crazy/horny kolej woman/fren/flirt who suddenly got a overdose of love potion No. 9 during the late 80s. Only knew my wifey when I joined the paper chase in early 90s. But I more responsible now ;) (...couldnt find a 'saintly smiley' to put here.....)Yang kat college itu ke? Hebat

[TingMS]

haha....i think you were too skiny for my sis...haha

:D

[monay]

haha, monay, u r paid based on no of posting in dat thread isit?? :p
no, actually it's my free time. But i wonder u guys must actually be paid to do forumming???

[WitchKing]

haha soli...thot ur wife was the crazy n horny person...haha :eek:

u think if it was her i be crazy enuff to post her pic on the '87 thread?! R U NUTS!???

[WitchKing]

no, actually it's my free time. But i wonder u guys must actually be paid doing forumming???

i think actually most of us think we should.......but then the day job actually pays for this,, they just dont know it :p

[monay]

i think actually most of us think we should.......but then the day job actually pays for this,, they just dont know it :p
that's what i thot...

[TingMS]

no, actually it's my free time. But i wonder u guys must actually be paid doing forumming???

The amount paid is not that important...

The amount of destress obtained from posting and reading this forum is priceless........ :D

[monay]

well said, happy ghost...

[song cm]

i think actually most of us think we should.......but then the day job actually pays for this,, they just dont know it :p

haha...dare to say somemore...wait till ur boss catch u, then kena sepat liao...

[song cm]

The amount paid is not that important...

The amount of destress obtained from posting and reading this forum is priceless........ :D

yeah...but wat abt the amt of stress due to work piling up while u forum?? :(

[noname]

you are right. my ideal weight should be arounf 72/3 kg but been there didn't like the feeling so shrank back. don't want it to affect my mobility too much. some hardcore fellows look good when they are standing but when they start walking...........look real funny.

my problem is my shoulders. too narrow for my height so makes me look rather skinny (talking about the bone structure). noname you are blessed with good broad shoulders. after you have trained it enough............gila babi.
GL,
i think the macho fella tend to walk in macho way lah. you know lah... when they are big size, when they walk, they tend to flex their upper part body muscle and walk one... it will make them look big size... is common lah. just ignore the sohai fella... kekeke...

you can train your shoulder, no problem. just try to train your Trapezius, Upper Fibers & Levator Scapulae... using barbell shrug... it will do the trick. i carry 100KG to do shrug... sometimes carry 100lbs dumbbell for one side... so total 200lbs dumbbell... no problem. i can do it... u also can do it...

actually im not bless with my shoulder. perhap i concentrate too much on my shoulder last time thus making it bigger n broad now... ahahaha...

[WitchKing]

haha...dare to say somemore...wait till ur boss catch u, then kena sepat liao...

pandai2 laa cover, kawan. ;)

[TingMS]

yeah...but wat abt the amt of stress due to work piling up while u forum?? :(

work??? what work???

:D

[noname]

noname, u r not married rite?

Hey, I forsee u will hv less time for gym once u are married n hv kids.... :p

ahahaha... songcm, im getting married this year - june. my wife and i will join gym after married... still go. ahahaha... if not time, make time (learn from my friends)

[noname]

maybe noname can use his kids for weight training? :D

ahahaha. this is funny but the fact is... when i do pushup, my friends use to put his children on my back and do push up. 20 reps non-stop... and his children is kindergarden school... ahahaha...

[TingMS]

ahahaha... songcm, im getting married this year - june. my wife and i will join gym after married... still go. ahahaha... if not time, make time (learn from my friends)

Congratulations.....

:D

[song cm]

ahahaha... songcm, im getting married this year - june. my wife and i will join gym after married... still go. ahahaha... if not time, make time (learn from my friends)


kekekeke...talk to me again when u r oredi married.....aso, wait till the kids come along....

[song cm]

work??? what work???

:D

not talkin abt u lar :p

[noname]

Congratulations.....

:D

ahahaha... thank you...

[noname]

kekekeke...talk to me again when u r oredi married.....aso, wait till the kids come along....

song, i definetely wont stop gym after i have kids... i probably will go less time... tt's why now im planning to buy gym set and put in my new house... tt's my objective. plus we shouldnt stop gym straight away. your muscle will goes back to square one and end up = fat.

wat i can do is to maintain. im now maintain my body... :D

[Voon Chan]

kekekeke...talk to me again when u r oredi married.....aso, wait till the kids come along....Song, I could not have said it better than that

[song cm]

song, i definetely wont stop gym after i have kids... i probably will go less time... tt's why now im planning to buy gym set and put in my new house... tt's my objective. plus we shouldnt stop gym straight away. your muscle will goes back to square one and end up = fat.

wat i can do is to maintain. im now maintain my body... :D

haha...talkin abt the gymset...I aso bought one and now it is collecting dusts in my reading room....u know, working out alone is really a drag......

[Voon Chan]

haha...talkin abt the gymset...I aso bought one and now it is collecting dusts in my reading room....u know, working out alone is really a drag......No motivation & visual stimulation is it?

[noname]

nop, all the while, i've been working alone... plus i can ask my gang to come to my house to train. sometimes i went to my friends house condo to train... no problem mah...

[song cm]

Song, I could not have said it better than that
yeap, guess we have the experience...

really, I still can go to the gym but it is unfair to my wife who then has to take care of our kids all by herself...infact, becoz of my sons, i only started playin badminton recently...for me, jogging is the less time consuming way to keep fit....

[song cm]

No motivation & visual stimulation is it?

haha...no comment....

[TingMS]

haha...talkin abt the gymset...I aso bought one and now it is collecting dusts in my reading room....u know, working out alone is really a drag......


Instead of getting a gymset, why not wake up at 6am, go for a walkjog for an hour around the housing estate.
Sweat it out. Fresh to work after the shower. I am doing it now. :D

[song cm]

Instead of getting a gymset, why not wake up at 6am, go for a walkjog for an hour around the housing estate.
Sweat it out. Fresh to work after the shower. I am doing it now. :D

yeah...good idea....i used to do it but now too lazy to get out from bed...i agree on the fresh air thingy....

Now, I stop by mengkuand Dam after work to jog...

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

haha...talkin abt the gymset...I aso bought one and now it is collecting dusts in my reading room....u know, working out alone is really a drag......
if you want to really build up, partner is important. me work out alone all the time. don't like to chit chat during work out. less effective and only waste time.

[dtchieng]

:eek: GL what happen to ur monkey?!!!

[noname]

if you want to really build up, partner is important. me work out alone all the time. don't like to chit chat during work out. less effective and only waste time.

agreed. having a partner to workout with you is good but dun chat often. wasting time...

many ppl go there... hogging the machine and chit chat. sometimes i darn angry, *fxxx* them off and use it. ahahaha...

[noname]

yeah...good idea....i used to do it but now too lazy to get out from bed...i agree on the fresh air thingy....

Now, I stop by mengkuand Dam after work to jog...
have to wake up early to do it...

my sifu, his gym partner and another gal, went to celebrity fitness at 5:30am everyday... then work till 7am and go to work... so far so good... nothing wrong wat and they feel so fresh...

you have to leave your comfort zone and move on buddy... the lady also have a kid wat... sudah kahwin yet she still go to gym... *psssttt* she the one who have 6 packs abs lor... dun play play...

[WitchKing]

you have to leave your comfort zone and move on buddy... the lady also have a kid wat... sudah kahwin yet she still go to gym... *psssttt* she the one who have 6 packs abs lor... dun play play...

Now THAT lady deserves R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

[Voon Chan]

sudah kahwin yet she still go to gym... *psssttt* she the one who have 6 packs abs lor... dun play play...Can touch or not? :p

[noname]

Can touch or not? :p
cannot touch lah... she can show u her bicep lor... and her height is 165 or 166cm and weight is around 50 to 52KG... hehehe...

[Voon Chan]

cannot touch lah... she can show u her bicep lor... and her height is 165 or 166cm and weight is around 50 to 52KG... hehehe...
I can carry her up! :D , not too heavy for me

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

:eek: GL what happen to ur monkey?!!!
bad hair day.

[Voon Chan]

bad hair day.I thought the monkey is getting younger?

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

I thought the monkey is getting younger?
went for placenta injection. similar to the one anada went. it works. look at my avatar.

[Voon Chan]

went for placenta injection. similar to the one anada went. it works. look at my avatar.Thank you for your explanation :p

[dtchieng]

looks to me like a sudden surge in testosterone...

[noname]

VC, cannot carry her lah... scare you *hamsap* carry her one... :D

[Voon Chan]

VC, cannot carry her lah... scare you *hamsap* carry her one... :DI forgot to mention, I can carry my wife who is about the same weight

[noname]

carry wife and carry other female... the feeling is different leh... :P

[Robin Kok CH]

Can doing vigorous sports activities like badminton count? Can it help in body toning? Me slowly getting bigger tummy by the day....

[piglet]

hahah piglet, this is so funny!

Athena.. this is a real person.. his doggie.. is dead..

[piglet]

VC, cannot carry her lah... scare you *hamsap* carry her one... :D

wat's the diff? :rolleyes:

[WitchKing]

Athena.. this is a real person.. his doggie.. is dead..

Again, the poor,poor,POOR doggie ..... what a cruel way to go.

[piglet]

Again, the poor,poor,POOR doggie ..... what a cruel way to go.

I think doggie have lots of good food .. before he is gone..

[noname]

Can doing vigorous sports activities like badminton count? Can it help in body toning? Me slowly getting bigger tummy by the day....

robin, playing badmintion shouldnt be problem (if you not pursuing to get macho body)... just a lean body will do. but do you notice all those badminton player have big calf in their leg? coz they using stop-and-go situation thus making their calf bigger... :D

[noname]

wat's the diff? :rolleyes:

got... when you hold another gal hand (which is not your wife/gf/daughter/baby)... your mind will think sexual immorality... lust.

[noname]

some information about Hydroxycut supplement from my sifu...

Ok. First and foremost about using fat burner that WORK has its good and
bad(nobody get`s free meals in this world) side. It can be SAFE if it is
used PROPERLY. Just do your research and know the associated risks first.

Now, about the basics of a fat burner that WORKS. Fat Burners that work are
also known to be an ECA Stack. ECA stands for Ephedrine, Caffiene and
Aspirin. A STACK means to combine more than 1 compound together. With a
correct dosage of this 3 compounds, it raises the metabolic rate. Ephedra
containing Ephedrine Alkaloids is derived from a chinese herb named Mahuang
which is also sold in Chinese Medical Halls. Caffiene usually is extracted
from Garuana Seeds or Kola Seeds. Nowadays many supplement companies have
replaced this ingredient with something else ie. Willow Bark, etc. I will
say this one ONLY, whatever fat burner that is NOT an ECA Stack, KEEP YOUR
MONEY AS IT DOES NOT WORK no matter what hype is the advertisement. Yes,
the original formula of Hydrodycut was FANTASTIC(however the advertisments
are crap) when combined with a proper diet with or without exercise. This
is because the ECA dosage in it is very HIGH. Muscletech products are known
to be expensive(look at their marketing so go figure why the products is
expensive). They used to produce 2 version. 1 was the original formula and
the other Ephedra Free which was used to penetrate the Canadian and Asian
market. As you know by now, the Canadian & Asian formula does not work so
save your money there. Now their lastest formula is Caffiene free as well
so without the EC, save your money. Hydroxycut derived it`s name from it`s
main compound HCA or Hydroxy Citric Acid. The main purpose of this
substance is to block the conversion of carbs to fat in case of an
overspill. So common sense will tell, if you`re on a LCD(Low Carb Diet),
there is no need for HCA. So whatever fat burner you want to use, you have
to analyse your diet first and couple the fat burner to your diet not the
other way round. One using a fat burner may experience a weight
loss(water/fat/muscle) due to factors like the fat burner has got compounds
that limit your hunger pangs and increasing metabolic rate so that you will
`feel` very active so wanting to cardio or workout all the time. So in
actual fact its either you`re working over your calorie intake or eating
less than maintanence level. In other words, I`m trying to tell you that
the thing that made u loose weight is actually your diet, not the fat
burner. I can loose the same amount of fat into near competition condition
at 10% body fat with or without a fat burner aid. It just takes some
discipline in the area of diet and training. I only use fat burners and
cycle them with clen and t3 when i need to drop below 6% body fat.

The downside of using ECA Stacks is that NOT EVERYONE CAN TAKE IT. IT`S BAD
FOR THE HEART. If you want to take it, make sure you know the risk and
willing to except it and use common sense on the dosage. Right now, Ephedra
is listed as a banned item so you won`t be able to get fat burners with
ECA(if you know what is it and really want it and know the risks that come
with it and know how to use it, PM me but prepare to rip a hole in your
wallet). It got banned because some idiot decided to be smart and ABUSED
the item and died so the US state government said ban it, stupid right?
Body Builders has been known to use ECA Stacks SAFELY for many many years
on top of clen, t3, t4, etc. because they have COMMON SENSE and do their
RESEARCH PROPERLY. When i say Body Builders, I`m talking about real
experienced and knowledgable experts with encyclopedias in the heads, not
wannabes or gyms rats. Almost everyone thinks that an ECA Stack BURNS FAT,
fact is it is NOT. Surprised? To burn fat you need to have a deficit
Calorie Intake and during this stage your body will adjust itself to lower
the metabolic rate due to lack of food as our body adapts so less food, it
will work less hard. So if this is the case how are you going to burn the
fat is your body works less? Answer is ramp up the metabolism and 2 things
play an active role in this :-

1-Muscle mass which is metabolically active
2-ECA Stack(its a necessity but not necessary)

The purpose of the ECA Stack is mainly to ramp up the metabolism so that
you`re able to carry out your normal activites and still train hard when
you`re on a deficit calorie intake diet which hinders performance and
ultimately hinders fat loss. So those who think that by eating less and
less will burn fat? Think twice, that is why VLCD(Very Low Calorie Diets)
do not work. They burn a great deal of muscle mass which is not the
objective of losing weight.

I have a caution for you if you decide to use an ECA Stack. It`s a Stack
that raises metabolic rate hence promotes thermogenesis which produces heat
and in turn may de-hydrate you so keep yourself properly hydrated with
fluids and levels well above your normal 8-12 glasses or water each day.
Drink more if you need to, you won`t die. But be aware also that with the
increase in water intake, you will run the risk of water retention if your
diet is high in sodium(my guidelines is always not more than 2400mg sodium
if i`m dieting down) and if you`re running creatine as well, you need even
more water unles you`re using the new generation of creatine loading
mechanisms that uses tri-creatine mallate and Arginine(example of a good
and proven product is Sans V12 Turbo). It will also raise your heart
rate and for some cases, you won`t be able to sleep in the night so don`t
take it after say 4pm. And also stay away from coffee or tea as well as
they also contain Caffiene, you might run a risk of overdosing together
with the ECA Stack. And most important of all make sure you don`t have any
health problems and check with your physician first. This are some of the
basic guidelines that one should follow but sad to say 90% of them don`t
heed it or never bother to do so.

IMHO, If you`re not a COMPETITIVE ELITE ATHLETE, there`s is no need to use
any form of supplements. Supplements only come in AFTER one has exhausted
all options on DIETING and TRAINING both or have reached their GENETIC
LIMITATION. All you need is a sensible diet and exercise.

Some one mentioned that Arnold mentioned he used steroids. Competitive Body
Building is about building the BODY to it best and ABOVE Genetic
Limitation. Steroid are not BAD if they ARE USED SAFELY and PROPERLY with
PROPER KNOWLEDGE. I will not admit that I have never taken any as I have
been on many cycles and I`m very pleased with the results. Some people
prefer to use PH or Pro Hormones(which was legal last year and now it`s
also banned). Both are the same, PH is just a few steps pre-cursor
of the actual hormone which compare to AS which is less steps or none at
all. A proper planned cycle of AS yields better results and less side
effects than a PH cycle. Only idiots will die because they abused it and
also used it for long runs. There are however some elite athletes that do
use if for long long runs, this is because of high level competition with
super athletes in our century, those chose it because that is what keeps
them in business and that is their rice bowl and they also know the risk
that comes with it. Mainly body builders are associated with steroids in
the eyes of the public because their body is above genetic limitation and
it is just not possible to be a 300lb musclebound freak naturally. Other
areas of athletes also use them but they just never really caught the
attention of the authorities or governing bodies until recent years. Most
of the people or wannabe will give credit to their fantastics freak bodies
to steroids but they don`t know the whole story because they are not true
body builders. It takes a lot of dedication, time, patience and many many
years to become what they are, steroids is just a tool for them to go
beyond natural abilities after exhaustion of all natural methods. I for one
truly respect them as I`ve been riding on that path for many many years and
it ain`t no easy job brother. It takes years of work just to be able to
display the aw of 3D muscle on stage for a mere 15mins. The feeling of
standing on stage in front of thousand of ppl is something that is
wonderful and its a very proud way of displaying your own hard piece of art
work that you`ve worked for endless hours. Arnold has and is and will be
the best body builder ever in history as he has opened the gates of body
building to the world in all aspects and turning it into a professional
career. The history of steroids which got banned was because in the
international scene of competetive high level sport, not ALL athletes can
AFFORD to use them which those on them give them an extra edge. Steroid or
its proper name Syntethic Anabolic Hormones SHOULD ONLY BE USED IF ONE IS
AN ELITE ATHLETE AND HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL POSIBILITES OF DIET AND TRAINING
AND WHICH HAS ALSO REACHED THE GENETIC LIMITATION. And please be aware that
possesion of steroids is against the law but in some states, they have
steroid lawyers that can `counter` this. Steroids are classified as Class 3
Drugs in the US so it can be prescribed. But however our Human Endochrine
System is a very precise mechanism so its not wise to alter it too much.
Like I said many time, there are risks in everything. If one is willing to
take it, it`s up to that individual.

"‘Hydroxy cut’ effect are similar to steroids but much much more milder and
it is legal. "

- Nope, they are 2 different things doing 2 different things.

==> quoat from muscleman @ AW

[Robin Kok CH]

robin, playing badmintion shouldnt be problem (if you not pursuing to get macho body)... just a lean body will do. but do you notice all those badminton player have big calf in their leg? coz they using stop-and-go situation thus making their calf bigger... :D

Oh....yah I noticed. Aiyah, now everyday I feel fat le.....I used to have 6-packs (kecil-kecil punya) when I was active for ACS in badminton but now cannot see any liao.... and also last time my calf was hard as stone all the time...
Me only 163cm and 53kg now. I used to be 48kg when I was active. Oh and my BMI is around 15% to 19%. I work in medical-related field, so my office have all those equipment, BP monitors, jogging machine, etc. So comment?

Oh, do you think I have water-retention? Just wondering, is there such a thing as 8-packs?

[noname]

Oh....yah I noticed. Aiyah, now everyday I feel fat le.....I used to have 6-packs (kecil-kecil punya) when I was active for ACS in badminton but now cannot see any liao.... and also last time my calf was hard as stone all the time...
Me only 163cm and 53kg now. I used to be 48kg when I was active. Oh and my BMI is around 15% to 19%. I work in medical-related field, so my office have all those equipment, BP monitors, jogging machine, etc. So comment?

Oh, do you think I have water-retention? Just wondering, is there such a thing as 8-packs?
it is very hard to know whether you have water-retention in your body or not. i need to see it, then only can tell. did you sweat a lot? if you sweat a lot, probably there is some water-retention in your body...

as for 8-packs abs, yes... there is 8 packs but very difficult to make the lowest pack become visible as you need to do specific abs training to hit that part... normally we do 100 reps for 3-4 sets... continuously without stop. then next day your abs will sore...

my friends kena b4 until he cant get up from his bed and he take MC for 2 days... :D

[Robin Kok CH]

did you sweat a lot? if you sweat a lot, probably there is some water-retention in your body...

:D

hehe...I always perspire...and a lot too...that's why I dont like our weather here. I prefer colder climate since I experienced it before and I like it....it's like
everywhere is air-con....so cool and nice....missed those days...

[noname]

hmmm, try to go to sauna (dry body) for around 8 mins... make sure the room is hot enough for your to sweat. if after 8 mins still no sweat, then probably u dun have much water retention in ur body.

[piglet]

it is very hard to know whether you have water-retention in your body or not. i need to see it, then only can tell. did you sweat a lot? if you sweat a lot, probably there is some water-retention in your body...

as for 8-packs abs, yes... there is 8 packs but very difficult to make the lowest pack become visible as you need to do specific abs training to hit that part... normally we do 100 reps for 3-4 sets... continuously without stop. then next day your abs will sore...

my friends kena b4 until he cant get up from his bed and he take MC for 2 days... :D

What is the logic behind "sweating a lot, might have water retention in you body"?

[Voon Chan]

noname, you have contributed a great article. Please note that mahuang is very effective & it also come with side effects like body getting to hot, heart beat increase to a significant level & not able to sleep & rest well. In the western world, people are avoiding mahuang since 2 years ago

[Diong_Gar_Loon]

hmmm, try to go to sauna (dry body) for around 8 mins... make sure the room is hot enough for your to sweat. if after 8 mins still no sweat, then probably u dun have much water retention in ur body.
not too long in sauna though........for you ladies, it will make you age faster too. water retention is good for certain areas e.g. your face. sauna removes water all over your body so at the end of the day........you may look thinner but also older. wat do you prefer now??? kekeke.

[noname]

noname, you have contributed a great article. Please note that mahuang is very effective & it also come with side effects like body getting to hot, heart beat increase to a significant level & not able to sleep & rest well. In the western world, people are avoiding mahuang since 2 years ago
voon chan, if you cant sleep well at night or due to "alertness" while sleeping, then im afraid the caffeine is too strong for you to take. you should take the supplement before 4pm of the day.. it takes around 6+- hours deplete the caffeine...

[noname]

What is the logic behind "sweating a lot, might have water retention in you body"?
it's depend. i cant provide you the right answer for this one... better consult doctor about it.

if you water retention and you burn the water, you'll notice your weight will reduce. when im on diet, i went to workout and sauna... i lost 2 KG in first week. so 2 KG = combination of fat and water retention. my sifu know whether i have water retention when he pinch me...

1) body hot
2) sweat gland releasing a lot of water

[Voon Chan]

noname, In posting#241, I was referring to the effect of mahuang, not that I cannot sleep

[noname]

GL,
i do notice some of my female friends would stay in sauna for more than 15 mins... and they enjoyed it... i was :O when i hear that. i think the ladies didnt make the sauna room temp increase... maybe slightly hot nia...

the water retention thingy, you cant burn all the water inside your body... this is DANGEROUS. you only need to burn some additional water inside your body that make you bloated. human body need water to survive leh...

[noname]

noname, In posting#241, I was referring to the effect of mahuang, not that I cannot sleep
sorru vonn chan. little blur today.

about mahuang/ephedra, currently the US oledi ban it due to death of several ppl after taking it. if you know how to take it, it is very good and can reduce your body fat significant but ppl tend to abuse it and cause several ppl death after taking it. so far, all the diet pill sold in the world is without mahuang/ephedra. but some places still have it... :D

[Sarah]

voon chan, if you cant sleep well at night or due to "alertness" while sleeping, then im afraid the caffeine is too strong for you to take. you should take the supplement before 4pm of the day.. it takes around 6+- hours deplete the caffeine...

I have been someone who's sooo deprived of sleep... and I've tried every single solution... yet nothing changes...

so now I resign myself to the fact that I don't need much sleep.. hehe

[Sarah]

VC, im still alert when I sleep sometimes... and one time I discovered that it was becuz of my beverage intake...

Eg: Coffee (this i knew long time ago), then tea (para ping) and of course carbonated drinks.. so, I've abstained myself from all these for a couple of years now... :)

[Voon Chan]

I have been someone who's sooo deprived of sleep... and I've tried every single solution... yet nothing changes...

so now I resign myself to the fact that I don't need much sleep.. heheTRy meditation. It will put you to sleep in no time, serious